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Reply #510 posted 08/13/16 1:14pm

donnyenglish

morningsong said:

donnyenglish said:



Very true. In the right hands, it could be a good thing. In the wrong hands, it could be a travesty. My point is that if the right entity paid the family $200 million (or whatever appropriate amount) for the place and preserved and protected its legacy, that could be win/win/win given the fact that the various heirs seem to have different views about what should be done with it. There needs to be a clear direction for the future and that is never going to happen with so many voices. If they cannot agree, it is possible that a judge forces it to be sold and the proceeds split like what is done in a divorce with real estate.


I'd rather Prince's intentions be honored as best as possible. And not sell his dream to the highest bidder. If it means appeasing a few family members who want to make a record or 2 then so be it (or don't), the market will handle that. PP will be no worse for wear. Now if it's about various family members trying to control the contents of the vault that's a whole other conversation.

You keep saying heirs, and I personally am not trusting what you mean by heir, do you care to explain?


When I say heir I mean whoever the 6-8 legal heirs end up being as determined by the court. It could work if the 6-8 people can agree and direct the future of PP with a unified voice. If not, then maybe it would be best if someone else purchased it from the heirs and is able to move forward efficiently with preserving it and opening it to the public.
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Reply #511 posted 08/13/16 2:15pm

morningsong

donnyenglish said:

morningsong said:



I'd rather Prince's intentions be honored as best as possible. And not sell his dream to the highest bidder. If it means appeasing a few family members who want to make a record or 2 then so be it (or don't), the market will handle that. PP will be no worse for wear. Now if it's about various family members trying to control the contents of the vault that's a whole other conversation.

You keep saying heirs, and I personally am not trusting what you mean by heir, do you care to explain?


When I say heir I mean whoever the 6-8 legal heirs end up being as determined by the court. It could work if the 6-8 people can agree and direct the future of PP with a unified voice. If not, then maybe it would be best if someone else purchased it from the heirs and is able to move forward efficiently with preserving it and opening it to the public.


No group of people go around unanimously agreeing on everything. Predicting doom because there is a difference of opinion for the moment seems short sighted. Instantly handing it over to put others grandchildren through college, before the family can have time to figure it out makes me leery.
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Reply #512 posted 08/13/16 4:51pm

paradise000

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Can't remember if this was posted already, if so I'm sorry.

Big plans ahead, can't wait!

'cause you got to know...how I feel about you babe
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Reply #513 posted 08/13/16 4:52pm

deerpath

Pure speculation, but perhaps part of this weekend's memorial events is also business. Putting together an investor group?

The family held a service the day Prince was cremated. Close friends and family came in. Others have had their own memorial tributes. It has all been done, but this week the judge ruled on heirs and property sales. Now people are coming into Chanhassen... tonight they meet at PP.

A syndicate type of arrangement. It might protect the main proprties and provide a framework for safe-guarding the art. Family would hold majority interest with others providing working capital.

"Hold on to your souls y'all. We got a long way to go. Thank you! We love y'all!"
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Reply #514 posted 08/13/16 9:35pm

morningsong

morningsong said:

donnyenglish said:



When I say heir I mean whoever the 6-8 legal heirs end up being as determined by the court. It could work if the 6-8 people can agree and direct the future of PP with a unified voice. If not, then maybe it would be best if someone else purchased it from the heirs and is able to move forward efficiently with preserving it and opening it to the public.

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No group of people go around unanimously agreeing on everything. Predicting doom because there is a difference of opinion for the moment seems short sighted. Instantly handing it over to put others grandchildren through college, before the family can have time to figure it out makes me leery.



I just saw the clip where it was mentioned about the family using PP to record their own albums. First, it was the reporter who said it, secondly the reporter said it was the cousin who said it. Since we did not see exactly what the cousin said we have no idea what context he said it in and mainly he is not one of the heirs making desicions, so the line that the heirs are saying this is incorrect to begin with. This how things get seriously miscommunicated around here.
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Reply #515 posted 08/14/16 5:26am

laurarichardso
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morningsong said:

morningsong said:


S
No group of people go around unanimously agreeing on everything. Predicting doom because there is a difference of opinion for the moment seems short sighted. Instantly handing it over to put others grandchildren through college, before the family can have time to figure it out makes me leery.



I just saw the clip where it was mentioned about the family using PP to record their own albums. First, it was the reporter who said it, secondly the reporter said it was the cousin who said it. Since we did not see exactly what the cousin said we have no idea what context he said it in and mainly he is not one of the heirs making desicions, so the line that the heirs are saying this is incorrect to begin with. This how things get seriously miscommunicated around here.

-// I am sure Charles had more to say but I am sure they edited out the rest. I mean was being critical of the media since when does the media accept attacks on their coverage.
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Reply #516 posted 08/14/16 9:32am

YaThink

It's best to take what you get from random interviews with a grain of salt.
Anyone can, in essence, say anything they want to.
It might be 100%, 50%, or sometimes completely fabricated to get the public talking.
Even when it comes to well meaning family. It might be premature or embellished for self promotion.
One day, hopefully soon, there will be an official channel by which to get information directly from the source.
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Reply #517 posted 08/14/16 9:56am

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YaThink said:

It's best to take what you get from random interviews with a grain of salt.
Anyone can, in essence, say anything they want to.
It might be 100%, 50%, or sometimes completely fabricated to get the public talking.
Even when it comes to well meaning family. It might be premature or embellished for self promotion.
One day, hopefully soon, there will be an official channel by which to get information directly from the source.

/// What source would that be? The official source would have been Prince and he was not saying much when he was alive.
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Reply #518 posted 08/14/16 10:07am

morningsong

YaThink said:

It's best to take what you get from random interviews with a grain of salt.
Anyone can, in essence, say anything they want to.
It might be 100%, 50%, or sometimes completely fabricated to get the public talking.
Even when it comes to well meaning family. It might be premature or embellished for self promotion.
One day, hopefully soon, there will be an official channel by which to get information directly from the source.



Exactly!

Makes no sense for every random personto throw their spin on top of it.
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Reply #519 posted 08/14/16 4:38pm

Mumio

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YaThink said:

It's best to take what you get from random interviews with a grain of salt. Anyone can, in essence, say anything they want to. It might be 100%, 50%, or sometimes completely fabricated to get the public talking. Even when it comes to well meaning family. It might be premature or embellished for self promotion. One day, hopefully soon, there will be an official channel by which to get information directly from the source.



Agreeing with everything you said here.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #520 posted 08/14/16 7:57pm

tmo1965

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:
I just saw the clip where it was mentioned about the family using PP to record their own albums. First, it was the reporter who said it, secondly the reporter said it was the cousin who said it. Since we did not see exactly what the cousin said we have no idea what context he said it in and mainly he is not one of the heirs making desicions, so the line that the heirs are saying this is incorrect to begin with. This how things get seriously miscommunicated around here.
-// I am sure Charles had more to say but I am sure they edited out the rest. I mean was being critical of the media since when does the media accept attacks on their coverage.

I wonder why they edited out Mayte's name when Charles said that the only person who had a kid by Prince and the baby passed was (edited out). It's common knowledge that Mayte had a kid by him.

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Reply #521 posted 08/15/16 7:03am

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tmo1965 said:



laurarichardson said:


morningsong said:
I just saw the clip where it was mentioned about the family using PP to record their own albums. First, it was the reporter who said it, secondly the reporter said it was the cousin who said it. Since we did not see exactly what the cousin said we have no idea what context he said it in and mainly he is not one of the heirs making desicions, so the line that the heirs are saying this is incorrect to begin with. This how things get seriously miscommunicated around here.

-// I am sure Charles had more to say but I am sure they edited out the rest. I mean was being critical of the media since when does the media accept attacks on their coverage.

I wonder why they edited out Mayte's name when Charles said that the only person who had a kid by Prince and the baby passed was (edited out). It's common knowledge that Mayte had a kid by him.


-//Because the media is filled with idiots. Mayte even put the child's name out in the public to let people know he had a child but the media never mentioned the child.
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Reply #522 posted 08/15/16 2:40pm

morningsong

JFTHOI I though I'd revise my list

1. Norman

2. Estabon

3. Taz

4. TUO

5. Nicole

6. Anthony

7. Carlin

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Reply #523 posted 08/15/16 3:03pm

bilbolives

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_DEATH_SERVICE?SITE=WNYC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press has reported on the private services held Friday at a church and Saturday at Paisley Park for family and friends.

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Reply #524 posted 08/15/16 3:12pm

bilbolives

http://www.startribune.com/judge-rules-to-unseal-prince-s-divorce-records/390211731/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting that Judge Thomas Fraser ruled in favor of the Star Tribune to allow Manuela and Prince's divorce records to be made public, with Manuela and Bremer Trust having 30 days to file objections.

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Reply #525 posted 08/15/16 3:22pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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bilbolives said:

http://www.startribune.com/judge-rules-to-unseal-prince-s-divorce-records/390211731/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting that Judge Thomas Fraser ruled in favor of the Star Tribune to allow Manuela and Prince's divorce records to be made public, with Manuela and Bremer Trust having 30 days to file objections.

They have right to appeal to a higher court. It may not be resolved for awhile.

[Edited 8/17/16 14:45pm]

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Reply #526 posted 08/15/16 4:14pm

laurarichardso
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



bilbolives said:


http://www.startribune.com/judge-rules-to-unseal-prince-s-divorce-records/390211731/



The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting that Judge Thomas Fraser ruled in favor of the Star Tribune to allow Manuela and Prince's divorce records to be made public, with Manuela and Bremer Trust having 30 days to file objections.



Then after they have right to appeal to a higher court. It may not be resolved for awhile.


/- I hope they do appeal it so by the time it makes it way through the courts no one will even care and ST will look like complete asshats. Why don't they find out who shot at Black Lives Matter a few months back. Investigate the police department.
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Reply #527 posted 08/16/16 12:07pm

deerpath

Story about Brianna Nelson's attorney.

The Nelson family gave Stoltmann some of Prince's gold and platinum records in appreciation for him handling the case. He told them he would hold them until they ask for them back.

"...They are being kept in a locked vault. The gold and platinum records are not part of the estate, since they were given by Prince to his half-brother and then passed to his client, Brianna Nelson. It is hard to estimate their value, Stoltmann said. It is also hard to estimate when the estate matters will be settled. The case is likely to last years, Stoltmann said.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20160816/news/160819355/

There is a video of the lawyer talking and showing the records.

"...Since May, Stoltmann has traveled from Chicago to Minnesota numerous times for court-related matters in the case.

Then, on Aug. 3, he had a chance to tour Prince's mansion."

updated: 8/16/2016 6:12 AM

Barrington Hills lawyer helping handle Prince's estate

"Hold on to your souls y'all. We got a long way to go. Thank you! We love y'all!"
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Reply #528 posted 08/16/16 1:34pm

laurarichardso
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deerpath said:

Story about Brianna Nelson's attorney.



The Nelson family gave Stoltmann some of Prince's gold and platinum records in appreciation for him handling the case. He told them he would hold them until they ask for them back.



"...They are being kept in a locked vault. The gold and platinum records are not part of the estate, since they were given by Prince to his half-brother and then passed to his client, Brianna Nelson. It is hard to estimate their value, Stoltmann said. It is also hard to estimate when the estate matters will be settled. The case is likely to last years, Stoltmann said.



http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20160816/news/160819355/



There is a video of the lawyer talking and showing the records.



"...Since May, Stoltmann has traveled from Chicago to Minnesota numerous times for court-related matters in the case.


Then, on Aug. 3, he had a chance to tour Prince's mansion."




updated: 8/16/2016 6:12 AM

Barrington Hills lawyer helping handle Prince's estate


They have no money to pay him so they gave him the awards.😳 They could have filed their own claims and gone ahead and taken the test without his assistance and then hired someone and paid them out of their inheirance. The case is going to take years because people like him are going to drag it out as long as possible to try and suck money out of the estate.
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Reply #529 posted 08/16/16 3:33pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

deerpath said:

Story about Brianna Nelson's attorney.

The Nelson family gave Stoltmann some of Prince's gold and platinum records in appreciation for him handling the case. He told them he would hold them until they ask for them back.

"...They are being kept in a locked vault. The gold and platinum records are not part of the estate, since they were given by Prince to his half-brother and then passed to his client, Brianna Nelson. It is hard to estimate their value, Stoltmann said. It is also hard to estimate when the estate matters will be settled. The case is likely to last years, Stoltmann said.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20160816/news/160819355/

There is a video of the lawyer talking and showing the records.

"...Since May, Stoltmann has traveled from Chicago to Minnesota numerous times for court-related matters in the case.

Then, on Aug. 3, he had a chance to tour Prince's mansion."

updated: 8/16/2016 6:12 AM

Barrington Hills lawyer helping handle Prince's estate

They have no money to pay him so they gave him the awards.😳 They could have filed their own claims and gone ahead and taken the test without his assistance and then hired someone and paid them out of their inheirance. The case is going to take years because people like him are going to drag it out as long as possible to try and suck money out of the estate.



I'm sure he could find a way. I just can't figure out how, if the DNA says yes then it's all good if the DNA says no, then what else is there to say. If they aren't connected by Duane, but by general relationship, doesn't mean that the other relatives that petitioned to be recognized as heirs have a chance?

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Reply #530 posted 08/16/16 4:30pm

laurarichardso
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morningsong said:



laurarichardson said:


deerpath said:

Story about Brianna Nelson's attorney.



The Nelson family gave Stoltmann some of Prince's gold and platinum records in appreciation for him handling the case. He told them he would hold them until they ask for them back.



"...They are being kept in a locked vault. The gold and platinum records are not part of the estate, since they were given by Prince to his half-brother and then passed to his client, Brianna Nelson. It is hard to estimate their value, Stoltmann said. It is also hard to estimate when the estate matters will be settled. The case is likely to last years, Stoltmann said.



http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20160816/news/160819355/



There is a video of the lawyer talking and showing the records.



"...Since May, Stoltmann has traveled from Chicago to Minnesota numerous times for court-related matters in the case.


Then, on Aug. 3, he had a chance to tour Prince's mansion."




updated: 8/16/2016 6:12 AM

Barrington Hills lawyer helping handle Prince's estate



They have no money to pay him so they gave him the awards.😳 They could have filed their own claims and gone ahead and taken the test without his assistance and then hired someone and paid them out of their inheirance. The case is going to take years because people like him are going to drag it out as long as possible to try and suck money out of the estate.



I'm sure he could find a way. I just can't figure out how, if the DNA says yes then it's all good if the DNA says no, then what else is there to say. If they aren't connected by Duane, but by general relationship, doesn't mean that the other relatives that petitioned to be recognized as heirs have a chance?


- You are right if they fail the test he can take his awards down to the pawn shop however, it was him that tried to say they did not need to take the DNA test in the first place thus dragging this out longer than needed.
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Reply #531 posted 08/16/16 5:06pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:



I'm sure he could find a way. I just can't figure out how, if the DNA says yes then it's all good if the DNA says no, then what else is there to say. If they aren't connected by Duane, but by general relationship, doesn't mean that the other relatives that petitioned to be recognized as heirs have a chance?

- You are right if they fail the test he can take his awards down to the pawn shop however, it was him that tried to say they did not need to take the DNA test in the first place thus dragging this out longer than needed.



I guess it's all wait and see.

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Reply #532 posted 08/17/16 6:41am

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Barrington Hills lawyer helping handle Prince's estate

http://www.dailyherald.co...160819355/

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Reply #533 posted 08/17/16 12:05pm

morningsong

falloff


Claire isn't quitting is she?

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Reply #534 posted 08/17/16 12:58pm

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morningsong said:



I guess it's all wait and see.

sigh

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #535 posted 08/17/16 2:21pm

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On my Facebook today about the upcoming concert in October. The very 1st sentence is what I wanted to share:

hmmm

Months after the world lost singer Prince to chronic pain, his family has finally announced plans for an official tribute concert to celebrate the late artists’ life. Slated for October 13.

The rest of the story at www.seatgeek.com.

Hey, hey, mama, said the way you move
Gonna make you sweat, gonna make you groove
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Reply #536 posted 08/18/16 6:13am

nelcp777

morningsong said:

falloff


Claire isn't quitting is she?

No she is not. I cannot understand how her or Dixon keeps continuing.

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Reply #537 posted 08/18/16 6:23am

udo

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There's a will!
There's an heir!

See http://www.mncourts.gov/m...Nelson.pdf

Hoax?

True?

.

Please post!

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #538 posted 08/18/16 6:48am

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udo said:

There's a will!
There's an heir!


See http://www.mncourts.gov/m...Nelson.pdf


Hoax?


True?


.


Please post!



Nah! This lady has already been denied. She is one who can't produce a marriage license because the CIA has it (cough,cough). I can't remember where the will supposedly is...aliens, Bigfoot, in a tree with elves? She is quite disturbed. If you go back through the fillings you will find her afadavit. Bizarre!!!
Vous etes tres belle, mama, girls and boys 💋
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Reply #539 posted 08/18/16 7:11am

udo

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raspberryberet3121 said:

udo said:

There's a will!
There's an heir!

See http://www.mncourts.gov/m...Nelson.pdf

Hoax?

True?

.

Please post!

Nah! This lady has already been denied. She is one who can't produce a marriage license because the CIA has it (cough,cough). I can't remember where the will supposedly is...aliens, Bigfoot, in a tree with elves? She is quite disturbed. If you go back through the fillings you will find her afadavit. Bizarre!!!

.

SO this is a typically American (in my eyes) 'sue whatever you can!' type of approach, even at this stage of the case?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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