Wannabeyourlover1 said:

Yep! and why would he have been so upset over losing a child with Mayte (to the point of it breaking up their marriage) if he already had a child/children to begin with. Makes no sense.

So are you saying you cant grieve deeply over one child's death because you have one already? Huh?

icequeen78 said:

Wannabeyourlover1 said:

I find it hard to believe Prince would not want the world to know he had a son. He wanted children so bad, according to all the articles we have read. I just find it hard to believe that if he did have a son, he wouldn't have had his son at Paisley Park all of the time, teaching him the music that made him so famous. And I find it hard to believe that a mother would not want her son to have a loving relationship with his father, especially if it was Prince. Just doesn't sound true.

Prince himself said that if he had a child he would not want the world to know the child's gender , name , birth day or anything. That would be the child's decision

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But not if a legal document said that everything needed to be kept quiet, or else lose whatever income was coming in.

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LBrent said:

icequeen78 said:

You know what would really be interesting to me ..if this were true How would mayte respond to this? Knowing that she was NOT the first person to have a child for Prince and if this man has no genetic defect then it would also point to her as a carrier for pfeiffer syndrome as it wouldn't necessarily be Prince as he would have a living child. That might be a lot for her to take

ugh. luckily she has a beautiful daughter now and seems to be a great mom, so if this is true, i don't think/hope it won't affect her too much.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

icequeen78 said:

icequeen78 said:

You know what would really be interesting to me ..if this were true How would mayte respond to this? Knowing that she was NOT the first person to have a child for Prince and if this man has no genetic defect then it would also point to her as a carrier for pfeiffer syndrome as it wouldn't necessarily be Prince as he would have a living child. That might be a lot for her to take

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I've researched Pfeiffer. It's tied to the father, particularly those 35+ at conception (which is the category Prince fell into in early 1996). We women are born with all the eggs we will ever have; males' sperm mutates hundreds of times as their sperm is regenerated throughout their lives. The mutation

Further, the risk of having another child with Pfeiffer syndrome is 50%. That may account for the later miscarriage.

Here's one of the best articles I've found: https://www.psychologytod...shelf-life

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endiadj said:

laytonian said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

No - this is NOT the guy being mooted now as P's son.

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This one - Carlin something - is in jail and the DNA did not match. His claim has been rejected.

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The other one whose pics have been shown has also been rejected because he was legally adopted and therefore has no claim.

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The one being mentioned in this article is the one we all heard about right at the outset (or at least I did). Heir Hunters spoke of him VERY early on, saying his story stacked up and that they were pretty convinced he was P's son. They also said he was very low-key and not interested in any publicity - which, it appears, he still isn't.

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I wouldn't be surprised to find that P did know about him; that there was some sort of understanding / financial arrangement and that the documents mentioned that 'could have an effect on heirship' pertain to this arrangement.

The photo posted above is NOT Carlin.

The Judge has not rejected Estabon's (the adopted child) Affidavit of Heirship. Bremer Trust filed papers stating Estabon does not meet the requirements for DNA testing. The Judge has not ruled on that issue as of this date. It remains to be seen whether the Judge will permit DNA testing.for Estabon.

I was just about to comment that this is not Carlin...Carlin is still in jail and doesn't even look like a possible heir. Imagine carrying around that garbage - from whomever told him or his own suspicions his whole life and been like..nah bruh.

In the photo...is that the Estabon you are referring to?

Not sure how a possible 'adopted' son, would have more right than actual blood line family members - even some of the distant ones that were attempting to stake claim. There better be some actual documents backing that up.

laytonian said:

Dibblekins said:

I'm sure it is, you know...There was a whole thread devoted to him - and he looked very different from the front!
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This article says that the pic. shown here is Carlin Williams..?

http://www.nairadays.com/tag/carlin-q-williams/

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But, yes you're quite right about Estabon (the adopted one) - my apologies. It'll be interesting to hear what the judge has to say about it.

[Edited 7/28/16 19:00pm]

[Edited 7/28/16 19:06pm]

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It may say so, but it's obviously not. Look at Carlin Q Williams' images on Google. He looks nothing like that man....in ANY of his many mugshots. And don't forget that Williams' DNA did NOT match Prince's.

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icequeen78 said:

You know what would really be interesting to me ..if this were true How would mayte respond to this? Knowing that she was NOT the first person to have a child for Prince and if this man has no genetic defect then it would also point to her as a carrier for pfeiffer syndrome as it wouldn't necessarily be Prince as he would have a living child. That might be a lot for her to take

I think she may know regarding genetics, as her daughter is adopted, I assumed that was why.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Yep! and why would he have been so upset over losing a child with Mayte (to the point of it breaking up their marriage) if he already had a child/children to begin with. Makes no sense.

So are you saying you cant grieve deeply over one child's death because you have one already? Huh?

i don't know about this kid but i agree with the first poster, if Prince was so attached to the idea of being a father, he would have been part of the kids life, more than likely. Hard to say though, what if he didn't know, didn't plan on the kid. It's be a little different I think.

Plus...if for example, he was contacted during a time when he was falling under the Jdub spell (please don't take offense if anyone is in here), having a child out of wedlock would seriously cramp on that wouldn't it? IF he was at all aware, it would be one of the reasons I could see him keeping this on the D.L.