Not sure who that was directed at...but i'll give it a go

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But, no...i never thought he only loved her or wanted only her in his lifetime..every woman he was with..he loved, even for just a month, year or a moment and then, as he always did the same thing...he moved on to the next one..as if he was trying to back at someone..lol..serial dating or serial fu'kinnnng not sayig to get back at her BUT the fact that she walked out and left him THAT WAY after all he did for her, and wanted to do..Purple Rain was supposed to be her acting debut---he wanted that for her..she said so!!! And i'm not saying it was the driving force behind his life or

career..he had a career b4 he met her, but yes, she was there, somehow, in his mind or spirit.........they had waaaay too many coincidences and similarities (mirrored or paralleled) one another in their lives not to be paying attention to what the other was doing.

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And yes, he moved on and so did she..temporarily, it seems for both, until the next one came along (for him) and then they were discarded for the newer, younger model.

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When she died, besides saying they loved each other deeply AND he also said ''it's time for a new story now'' i feel that meant he did have the ''story'' of them or her in his mind..maybe not in a pining away depressed way, as ur describing but in a as long as this persons walking the planet, i'm still good...then when she wasn't walking the planet anymore (like many, usually older couples or people) his health deteriorated and his spirit changed and then he passed shortly after.

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I'm NOT SAYING BECAUSE OF HER DEATH ONLY i am just saying he seemed to go down hill fast AFTER she died..can't really deny they both died the same way..alone and in poor health weeks apart..for different reasons of course..she took drugs for different reasons than Prince but, sadly, with the same result.

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No one is saying he pined away..at least i'm not. That boy lived life and i'm sure...enjoyed himself every step of the way!!!! And why not.........he was Prince

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It also reminds me of Sonny and Cher ONLY in the respect that when he died suddenly..she was devastated even though they were divorced for like 45 years!!!!!

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It was so many years ago and both moved on, marrried and had kids with other people...when Sonny died, Cher had a visible breakdown and was so heartbroken she could barely speak at his funeral...she did the eulogy and it was so sad the waa she kept crying...even they they divorced bitterly (he didn't want to let her leave and he was very controlling and older than her) she wasn't even talking to him for years after but when Sonny died, Cher fell apart and even now when his name is mentioned..she tears up because she said...she always thought he'd be here..never imagined a life where he wouldn't be and he did so much for her and made her CHER!

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Just saying...kinda the same...

GeniusLuv said:

Not sure who that was directed at...but i'll give it a go

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But, no...i never thought he only loved her or wanted only her in his lifetime..every woman he was with..he loved, even for just a month, year or a moment and then, as he always did the same thing...he moved on to the next one..as if he was trying to back at someone..lol..serial dating or serial fu'kinnnng not sayig to get back at her BUT the fact that she walked out and left him THAT WAY after all he did for her, and wanted to do..Purple Rain was supposed to be her acting debut---he wanted that for her..she said so!!! And i'm not saying it was the driving force behind his life or

career..he had a career b4 he met her, but yes, she was there, somehow, in his mind or spirit.........they had waaaay too many coincidences and similarities (mirrored or paralleled) one another in their lives not to be paying attention to what the other was doing.

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And yes, he moved on and so did she..temporarily, it seems for both, until the next one came along (for him) and then they were discarded for the newer, younger model.

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When she died, besides saying they loved each other deeply AND he also said ''it's time for a new story now'' i feel that meant he did have the ''story'' of them or her in his mind..maybe not in a pining away depressed way, as ur describing but in a as long as this persons walking the planet, i'm still good...then when she wasn't walking the planet anymore (like many, usually older couples or people) his health deteriorated and his spirit changed and then he passed shortly after.

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I'm NOT SAYING BECAUSE OF HER DEATH ONLY i am just saying he seemed to go down hill fast AFTER she died..can't really deny they both died the same way..alone and in poor health weeks apart..for different reasons of course..she took drugs for different reasons than Prince but, sadly, with the same result.

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No one is saying he pined away..at least i'm not. That boy lived life and i'm sure...enjoyed himself every step of the way!!!! And why not.........he was Prince

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[Edited 7/23/16 8:47am]

Meh, I'm sure he did want a lot of things for her -- however, his behavior earned him exactly what they should have. She dropped him. I'm sorry, but no amount of wanting to give her an acting debut or singing debut excuses the nonsense. I'm glad she had enough pride in herself to walk away, as she should have. Granted, she fell into some bad things afterward, too, but how can you sit there and act like she was supposed to just lap that up because he was Prince?

Hellz nah, sis, that don't fly. Maybe I'm just too familiar with the kind of bs a man can throw out there (from being friends with men who have a similar personality to Prince), but I'll always be like, "Noooope, she did what she should have in that instance." Prince was pretty, Prince was charming -- I /like/ the little git! We could hang out, we could be friends -- if he tried hard enough and didn't act like a complete jerk, I might even spend a night with him, maybe (but trust me, that right there will cost him something he wouldn't have wanted to spend -- honesty! ) But I would never in my life accept the crap he put some of his girlfriends through, simply because I value myself too highly to /ever/ allow that.

SpookyNopetopus said:

GeniusLuv said:

Not sure who that was directed at...but i'll give it a go

.

But, no...i never thought he only loved her or wanted only her in his lifetime..every woman he was with..he loved, even for just a month, year or a moment and then, as he always did the same thing...he moved on to the next one..as if he was trying to back at someone..lol..serial dating or serial fu'kinnnng not sayig to get back at her BUT the fact that she walked out and left him THAT WAY after all he did for her, and wanted to do..Purple Rain was supposed to be her acting debut---he wanted that for her..she said so!!! And i'm not saying it was the driving force behind his life or

career..he had a career b4 he met her, but yes, she was there, somehow, in his mind or spirit.........they had waaaay too many coincidences and similarities (mirrored or paralleled) one another in their lives not to be paying attention to what the other was doing.

.

And yes, he moved on and so did she..temporarily, it seems for both, until the next one came along (for him) and then they were discarded for the newer, younger model.

.

When she died, besides saying they loved each other deeply AND he also said ''it's time for a new story now'' i feel that meant he did have the ''story'' of them or her in his mind..maybe not in a pining away depressed way, as ur describing but in a as long as this persons walking the planet, i'm still good...then when she wasn't walking the planet anymore (like many, usually older couples or people) his health deteriorated and his spirit changed and then he passed shortly after.

.

I'm NOT SAYING BECAUSE OF HER DEATH ONLY i am just saying he seemed to go down hill fast AFTER she died..can't really deny they both died the same way..alone and in poor health weeks apart..for different reasons of course..she took drugs for different reasons than Prince but, sadly, with the same result.

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No one is saying he pined away..at least i'm not. That boy lived life and i'm sure...enjoyed himself every step of the way!!!! And why not.........he was Prince

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[Edited 7/23/16 8:47am]

Meh, I'm sure he did want a lot of things for her -- however, his behavior earned him exactly what they should have. She dropped him. I'm sorry, but no amount of wanting to give her an acting debut or singing debut excuses the nonsense. I'm glad she had enough pride in herself to walk away, as she should have. Granted, she fell into some bad things afterward, too, but how can you sit there and act like she was supposed to just lap that up because he was Prince?

Hellz nah, sis, that don't fly. Maybe I'm just too familiar with the kind of bs a man can throw out there (from being friends with men who have a similar personality to Prince), but I'll always be like, "Noooope, she did what she should have in that instance." Prince was pretty, Prince was charming -- I /like/ the little git! We could hang out, we could be friends -- if he tried hard enough and didn't act like a complete jerk, I might even spend a night with him, maybe (but trust me, that right there will cost him something he wouldn't have wanted to spend -- honesty! ) But I would never in my life accept the crap he put some of his girlfriends through, simply because I value myself too highly to /ever/ allow that.

Ohhhh wait, i 100% AGREE WITH YOU! I'm glad she had the balls to leave..i was stating that as more his point of view..not mine. I would NEVER stay with a man that cheated..no way NEVVVVVVA! Just so i'm clear

benni said:

Speaking from the standpoint of someone with abandonment issues, who, I am discovering, has had similar experiences occur in my childhood as Prince had; if someone betrays a trust, if someone abandons us by walking away, if someone cheats on us, it definitly has a deep and lasting impact on us. However, it is also as though, since they have taken something so sacred that we offered to them (our love and our trust) and essentially threw it back in our face, that love dies a quick and painful death. We do not always look back on them with fondness, instead we remember the hurt and pain of their abandoning us. However, at the time, it is also the most difficult relationship to get over because they abandoned us by walking away. Usually, due to our trust issues and desire to control the outcome of things because we didn't have control in our childhood, and thinking "they'll leave any way" we usually are the ones that walk away first and the pain is much less that way. But if they walk away from us, it brings forth every one of our abandonment and trust issues and the pain is excruciating. No, we never forget that individual, but we don't live our life in love with the one that got away. We may try for awhile to get back with that person, but mainly because of our abandonment issues and the desire to get that person back at all costs, just as a child who was abandoned by a parent wants that parent back. Eventually, we come to terms with the fact they aren't coming back and we move forward with our life, and that person, while not forgotten, is no longer someone we desire in any shape, form, or fashion. We don't think about them any longer, until someone or something brings forth the memory of that person. (BTW, I warn any potential partners from the get-go that I do have abandonment issues and that I have trust issues, and tell them, "If I give my trust to you, don't betray it, because once you betray it you'll never get it back, and for me the relationship ends in that moment." I realize these are my issues and I don't let anyone get into a relationship with me without knowing what they are getting into.

In case you doubt similarities in upbringing: parental figure leaving home at age 7 - his father divorced his mother and moved out of the family home, my mother died; lived in many different homes - he said in an interview he had moved 22 times by the time he was 21, I had moved 25 times by the time I was 21; it's been reported he was locked in his room somewhere around age 9+ by his step-father, I was locked in a closet as punishment by my father between ages 5 and 7; he said in an interview he didn't like his step-father because he only bought them things, never sat down and talked with him or gave him companionship (age 9+), from age 8+ I lived with an aunt and uncle tha never gave affection, never talked with me, only cared if I did my chores or not, never came to any basketball or volleyball games or track meets. Prince's father told him at 12 that no he could not come back home (to a child that age, it's a "I don't want you"), at 8 my father came home and told me he was putting me and my sister up for adoption (to a child that age, "I don't want you"), then at 14, after running away from my aunt and uncle's, I learned, "We never wanted you, just your sister, but your dad wouldn't let you and your sister be separated so we had to take you." I could go on.

[Edited 7/20/16 14:14pm]

Benni, thanks for sheading light on this topic. What you said is the absolute truth. Reading about Prince over the years and watching his behaivor, the way he treated his friends/lovers at times totally makes me feel he was someone who was deeply affected by his childhood. He was already a sensitive person to begin with, imagine in your formative years being bombarded with chronic trauma...that is alot for any child to deal with. I remember reading that one of the truest parts in Purple Rain, according to Prince ( I think he told Magnoli this but I can't be sure ) was the scene where his father told him to "never" get married...no wonder his romantic relationships didn't turn out well.

luvgirl said:

Krystalkisses said:

Also I have to say I liked reading Alan Light's book about the making of Purple Rain but was very annoyed that there was barely really anything about Denise in it. I was under the impression that she and Prince kinda came up with the story together and she inspired it. At least that is what I remember her saying in certain interviews like her Playboy interview.

Awww , that was the next book on my list to read. I'm disappointed now. I was hoping to find out a little more info on their relationship. I did read in other articles and interviews that she had a hand in helping Prince with the story. So, there was nothing at all about her?

Oh she was mentioned, but briefly. There was nothing much about their relationship. Actually there was a lot more about Apollonia than Vanity. However, it was a great read and I read stories that I had never heard before.

Apples herself said they were just FWB at best...nothing romantic or relationship wise...just that hook up crap!!!!!!

GeniusLuv said:

Apples herself said they were just FWB at best...nothing romantic or relationship wise...just that hook up crap!!!!!!

I loved it that Apples went to PP recently and hung out with P and watched 3rdEyeGirl...I just thought it was so cute that they spent some time together after all these years. I'd love to see a picture of them together in their older age. They looked hot together and I always wanted to BE Apollonia back in the day. I have a soft spot for her!

GeniusLuv said:

SpookyNopetopus said:

Meh, I'm sure he did want a lot of things for her -- however, his behavior earned him exactly what they should have. She dropped him. I'm sorry, but no amount of wanting to give her an acting debut or singing debut excuses the nonsense. I'm glad she had enough pride in herself to walk away, as she should have. Granted, she fell into some bad things afterward, too, but how can you sit there and act like she was supposed to just lap that up because he was Prince?

Hellz nah, sis, that don't fly. Maybe I'm just too familiar with the kind of bs a man can throw out there (from being friends with men who have a similar personality to Prince), but I'll always be like, "Noooope, she did what she should have in that instance." Prince was pretty, Prince was charming -- I /like/ the little git! We could hang out, we could be friends -- if he tried hard enough and didn't act like a complete jerk, I might even spend a night with him, maybe (but trust me, that right there will cost him something he wouldn't have wanted to spend -- honesty! ) But I would never in my life accept the crap he put some of his girlfriends through, simply because I value myself too highly to /ever/ allow that.

Ohhhh wait, i 100% AGREE WITH YOU! I'm glad she had the balls to leave..i was stating that as more his point of view..not mine. I would NEVER stay with a man that cheated..no way NEVVVVVVA! Just so i'm clear

Well in that case, I'ma stop side-eyeing you like you gots beglamoured. All is well!

Krystalkisses said:

benni said:

Speaking from the standpoint of someone with abandonment issues, who, I am discovering, has had similar experiences occur in my childhood as Prince had; if someone betrays a trust, if someone abandons us by walking away, if someone cheats on us, it definitly has a deep and lasting impact on us. However, it is also as though, since they have taken something so sacred that we offered to them (our love and our trust) and essentially threw it back in our face, that love dies a quick and painful death. We do not always look back on them with fondness, instead we remember the hurt and pain of their abandoning us. However, at the time, it is also the most difficult relationship to get over because they abandoned us by walking away. Usually, due to our trust issues and desire to control the outcome of things because we didn't have control in our childhood, and thinking "they'll leave any way" we usually are the ones that walk away first and the pain is much less that way. But if they walk away from us, it brings forth every one of our abandonment and trust issues and the pain is excruciating. No, we never forget that individual, but we don't live our life in love with the one that got away. We may try for awhile to get back with that person, but mainly because of our abandonment issues and the desire to get that person back at all costs, just as a child who was abandoned by a parent wants that parent back. Eventually, we come to terms with the fact they aren't coming back and we move forward with our life, and that person, while not forgotten, is no longer someone we desire in any shape, form, or fashion. We don't think about them any longer, until someone or something brings forth the memory of that person. (BTW, I warn any potential partners from the get-go that I do have abandonment issues and that I have trust issues, and tell them, "If I give my trust to you, don't betray it, because once you betray it you'll never get it back, and for me the relationship ends in that moment." I realize these are my issues and I don't let anyone get into a relationship with me without knowing what they are getting into.

In case you doubt similarities in upbringing: parental figure leaving home at age 7 - his father divorced his mother and moved out of the family home, my mother died; lived in many different homes - he said in an interview he had moved 22 times by the time he was 21, I had moved 25 times by the time I was 21; it's been reported he was locked in his room somewhere around age 9+ by his step-father, I was locked in a closet as punishment by my father between ages 5 and 7; he said in an interview he didn't like his step-father because he only bought them things, never sat down and talked with him or gave him companionship (age 9+), from age 8+ I lived with an aunt and uncle tha never gave affection, never talked with me, only cared if I did my chores or not, never came to any basketball or volleyball games or track meets. Prince's father told him at 12 that no he could not come back home (to a child that age, it's a "I don't want you"), at 8 my father came home and told me he was putting me and my sister up for adoption (to a child that age, "I don't want you"), then at 14, after running away from my aunt and uncle's, I learned, "We never wanted you, just your sister, but your dad wouldn't let you and your sister be separated so we had to take you." I could go on.

[Edited 7/20/16 14:14pm]

Benni, thanks for sheading light on this topic. What you said is the absolute truth. Reading about Prince over the years and watching his behaivor, the way he treated his friends/lovers at times totally makes me feel he was someone who was deeply affected by his childhood. He was already a sensitive person to begin with, imagine in your formative years being bombarded with chronic trauma...that is alot for any child to deal with. I remember reading that one of the truest parts in Purple Rain, according to Prince ( I think he told Magnoli this but I can't be sure ) was the scene where his father told him to "never" get married...no wonder his romantic relationships didn't turn out well.

The Rolling Stone interview is a perfect example: "What if everyone around me split?" he asks. "Then I'd be left with only me, and I'd have to fend for me. That's why I have to protect me." Most people would look at that statement and think, "What's he going on about? Prince will never be left with just himself. He's always going to have someone there for him." Only someone who has dealt with abandonment can look at that statement and say, "You're exactly right Prince. People don't stick around. You have to fend for yourself, have to protect yourself." And Prince accepted that about himself. He knew who he was and how he was because he later said, "I am what I am." And yes, being sensitive can be a hindrance in those instances. I heard from my aunt more times than I can, "You are WAY too sensitive." I cried easily as a child, but given my situation, I think it was warrented and understandable. I tried to rescue a baby bird once that had fallen out of the nest, and after watching for awhile realized the mother bad had either abandoned the baby bird or died. When the baby bird died, I cried for days. My aunt, "You are way overly sensitive. It was just a bird, get over it."

I think Prnce pulled and pushed in his relationships. He would try to pull them close, because he wanted that love, needed that love from them, but he would also try to push them away, because he was afraid they'd walk away and he didn't want to get too close and be hurt as deeply as he did when his father told him he couldn't come home. The fact that Prince cried for hours that day, but never cried again, per him, says to me (in my opinion) that he had made up his mind that day that he would never let anyone hurt him in that way again, would never let anyone get that close to him to hurt him. So while he was with whoever he was with, he loved him the best way he could, as deeply as he could, but he always kept a part of himself hidden, closed tight against any admittance, so that if he finally kicked him out or walked away, he'd never find himself hurting like that again.

Still amazing to me how they both died and so close, just weeks apart.....

but they are 2gether now

[Edited 7/24/16 7:35am]

Wow, just give it up. I don't think I've seen a more delusional group of people than Vanity stans. They refuse to accept the truth of the relationship, what was right in front of all of us for years. Why aren't these people out there trolling a Vanity board rather than a PRINCE forum? She wasn't anymore important to him than many of the others he had relationships with and he didn't go running after them either. What's so confusing to understand about that? Do people really think if he had wanted her back he wouldn't have done anything and everything to make that happen? Good grief, get with the real world, will you?

leadline said:

No, music was his true love, it ALWAYS came first.

Exactly. There was no other "lover" over this. Never.

PaisleyPrint said:

benni said:

You might as well give it up. They have it set in their minds that their opinion is the only the right opinion and any statements to the contrary are met with scorn and and "you can't know that", when the truth is staring them in the face, they can't know their opinion is right either. It doesn't matter that any one, who has shared an intimate relationship with someone would feel upset over that person's passing, because that was a period in their time and the passing reminded them of that period of time and they feel sadness at the end of that era and would dedicate time to remembering that person with fondness. I had an ex pass that I was deeply loved but we had not been together in a long time. The day I found out he passed, I cried, I played music he and I had listened to together, I talked about him to people I knew, remembering him, remembering that time. It in no way meant I was still in love with him, but I was acknowledging what he had meant to my life during that particular era and had even helped to shape who I became today because everyone we are in relationshiop with leaves an imprint on your life. I loved him for who he was then, and he loved me for who I was then, but I didn't know him now, and he didn't know me. We'd both grown and gone through so much since we were together that we were two completely different people. If I'd been a musician and just found out he'd passed, I would dedicate a show or two to him, to the memories we shared, would even mention that he and I used to love each other deeply, and would even consider him someone dear to me, and would have thought anyone that thought it meant I was still in love with him and pining away for him after all these years, as crazy. Prince didn't pine after any one, and that was evident in he way he continued to live his life. He didn't continue to write songs about her, because she was no longer in his life to hve an influence on him. But you won't convince this small group about it because they are Vanity fans before they are Prince fans, and therefore they are going to do everything they can o push the agenda that Prince lived his life (a full, passionate, and amazing life) doing nothing more than hiding away and pining over a woma who was a small part of his life at the beginning of his career.

Let the church say, "Amen" But yeah, I'm done with it. I was supporting what GhostChick had said in one of her post. I just hope everyone reads and takes into consideration the things I said about her (Vanity) marrying her husband (Anthony Smith) and that Washington Post article (look it up) and read between the lines. It tells a lot about her as a person. I was asked how did I "know" Vanity was no more special than any other woman in his life. By his actions, that's how. We've all heard the phrase, "Actions speak louder than words". That's true. No matter what a persons says, pay attention to what they do. What I'm waiting on is for someone to tell me what P did on behalf of his relationship with Vanity before her death (prior to the tribute of course), Not what he said in any magazine article, tv appearance, radio interview. None of that!!! But what did he "Do" to let us know that she was, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the "love of his life". Oh, and you can't for any reason use any of the other women who have been in his life (wives or girlfriends) in your example .......

You and others here are absolutely right but several of the posters in this thread are totally delusional about this relationship and can't see it for what it really was. It doesn't matter what you say, they won't believe it (you) or will rationalize it away...like they have been in this and the last thread. Don't waste your time trying to enlighten, it doesn't fit the agenda.

[Edited 7/24/16 17:07pm]

ok.. so my first post... this topic.. I think for the most part, Prince was madly in lust and maybe love with the women he was with.. he did say at the Melbourne P & M concert "she knows about this one.." and then he sings Beautiful ones.. regarding Vanity so its clear to me she meant something to him.. My feeling though is that he would have paid tribute that same way at that concert if it were Sheila E or Bria Valente.. I think Mayte was the one.. he has never written as many songs for the others.. I mean the Love symbol Album, Gold Experience and he also stated the 2nd Album of Emancepation is dedecated to her... who else got a song called Friend, Lover, sister, mother/wife.. and he never tried to have children with any others.. so I dont think Vanity was his true love.. but we will never know will we...

fanoftheman said:

ok.. so my first post... this topic.. I think for the most part, Prince was madly in lust and maybe love with the women he was with.. he did say at the Melbourne P & M concert "she knows about this one.." and then he sings Beautiful ones.. regarding Vanity so its clear to me she meant something to him.. My feeling though is that he would have paid tribute that same way at that concert if it were Sheila E or Bria Valente.. I think Mayte was the one.. he has never written as many songs for the others.. I mean the Love symbol Album, Gold Experience and he also stated the 2nd Album of Emancepation is dedecated to her... who else got a song called Friend, Lover, sister, mother/wife.. and he never tried to have children with any others.. so I dont think Vanity was his true love.. but we will never know will we...

No one ever said he wasn't in love with other women..of course he was...every single one, as long as they made him happy and served their purpose i guess..but like Mayte for instance, since u mentioned her..he got rid of her in such a heartbreaking bitter way..his soulmate??? really??? thats how u treat your soulmate...even though i believe they were married cuz she was pregnant (count backwards 9 months...) i can't believe thats how u treat the mother of your deceased child,that in itself says EVERYTHING!!!!!!

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Annnnnd then he remarried another ''soulmate'' in a split second..i dunno...i am just saying he was visibly shaking over someone he hasn't been with in over 35 years, why even mention her??? It was a life time ago...i mean he said so many beautiful things...dedicated so many songs...how they loved each other ''deeply'' and now its time for a ''new story'' now that she's gone...what story was he telling exactly for the past 35 years????

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AND again...i never said he didn't love anyone else, we also don't know that he didn't want children with anyone else..when did he say that>???? And Mayte got pregnant, then they got married, etc. don't know that she was the only one though!! Remember Maytes mama was all in on this..she could have instructed her daughter to make sure she had him PERMANENTLY..you never know, she gave her 16 year old to a middle aged man..and i am sure she ''counseled'' her daughter into some other things...just saying!!

GeniusLuv said:

fanoftheman said:

ok.. so my first post... this topic.. I think for the most part, Prince was madly in lust and maybe love with the women he was with.. he did say at the Melbourne P & M concert "she knows about this one.." and then he sings Beautiful ones.. regarding Vanity so its clear to me she meant something to him.. My feeling though is that he would have paid tribute that same way at that concert if it were Sheila E or Bria Valente.. I think Mayte was the one.. he has never written as many songs for the others.. I mean the Love symbol Album, Gold Experience and he also stated the 2nd Album of Emancepation is dedecated to her... who else got a song called Friend, Lover, sister, mother/wife.. and he never tried to have children with any others.. so I dont think Vanity was his true love.. but we will never know will we...

No one ever said he wasn't in love with other women..of course he was...every single one, as long as they made him happy and served their purpose i guess..but like Mayte for instance, since u mentioned her..he got rid of her in such a heartbreaking bitter way..his soulmate??? really??? thats how u treat your soulmate...even though i believe they were married cuz she was pregnant (count backwards 9 months...) i can't believe thats how u treat the mother of your deceased child,that in itself says EVERYTHING!!!!!!

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Annnnnd then he remarried another ''soulmate'' in a split second..i dunno...i am just saying he was visibly shaking over someone he hasn't been with in over 35 years, why even mention her??? It was a life time ago...i mean he said so many beautiful things...dedicated so many songs...how they loved each other ''deeply'' and now its time for a ''new story'' now that she's gone...what story was he telling exactly for the past 35 years????

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AND again...i never said he didn't love anyone else, we also don't know that he didn't want children with anyone else..when did he say that>???? And Mayte got pregnant, then they got married, etc. don't know that she was the only one though!! Remember Maytes mama was all in on this..she could have instructed her daughter to make sure she had him PERMANENTLY..you never know, she gave her 16 year old to a middle aged man..and i am sure she ''counseled'' her daughter into some other things...just saying!!

yeah fair call.. your right, we dont know if he didnt want children with anyone else.. just guessing anyway..

fanoftheman said:

benni said:

Krystalkisses said:

Benni, thanks for sheading light on this topic. What you said is the absolute truth. Reading about Prince over the years and watching his behaivor, the way he treated his friends/lovers at times totally makes me feel he was someone who was deeply affected by his childhood. He was already a sensitive person to begin with, imagine in your formative years being bombarded with chronic trauma...that is alot for any child to deal with. I remember reading that one of the truest parts in Purple Rain, according to Prince ( I think he told Magnoli this but I can't be sure ) was the scene where his father told him to "never" get married...no wonder his romantic relationships didn't turn out well.

The Rolling Stone interview is a perfect example: "What if everyone around me split?" he asks. "Then I'd be left with only me, and I'd have to fend for me. That's why I have to protect me." Most people would look at that statement and think, "What's he going on about? Prince will never be left with just himself. He's always going to have someone there for him." Only someone who has dealt with abandonment can look at that statement and say, "You're exactly right Prince. People don't stick around. You have to fend for yourself, have to protect yourself." And Prince accepted that about himself. He knew who he was and how he was because he later said, "I am what I am." And yes, being sensitive can be a hindrance in those instances. I heard from my aunt more times than I can, "You are WAY too sensitive." I cried easily as a child, but given my situation, I think it was warrented and understandable. I tried to rescue a baby bird once that had fallen out of the nest, and after watching for awhile realized the mother bad had either abandoned the baby bird or died. When the baby bird died, I cried for days. My aunt, "You are way overly sensitive. It was just a bird, get over it."

I think Prnce pulled and pushed in his relationships. He would try to pull them close, because he wanted that love, needed that love from them, but he would also try to push them away, because he was afraid they'd walk away and he didn't want to get too close and be hurt as deeply as he did when his father told him he couldn't come home. The fact that Prince cried for hours that day, but never cried again, per him, says to me (in my opinion) that he had made up his mind that day that he would never let anyone hurt him in that way again, would never let anyone get that close to him to hurt him. So while he was with whoever he was with, he loved him the best way he could, as deeply as he could, but he always kept a part of himself hidden, closed tight against any admittance, so that if he finally kicked him out or walked away, he'd never find himself hurting like that again.

Absolutley. I agree with you. That for sure sounds like someone who developed an Inscure Attachment Style. Specifically, the Anxious style. Not only that I think his "Madonna/Whore" Complex and putting women on a pedestal did not help him either. Everyone says that Mayte was his soulmate and all this and the passing of their children broke up their marriage. I think that is a romantizised notion considering having children really does stress your marriage in different ways and men do sometimes become jealous of the attention the mother has to give her child. How do we know they wouldn't have broken up had their boy lived and they ended up having multiple children ( I hope they wouldn't have to experience that but I so wish they didn't have to endure that tragedy of losing their babies ) however, even the strongest relationships get tested when the family dynamic changes and people who haven't resloved their past trauma most likely will experience unexpected feelings/anxieties under certain life changes.

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FOR WHOEVER IS INTERESTED DENISE'S BROTHER IN LAW (TOB is his username) CAME BACK AND RESPONDED TO OUR QUESTIONS/COMMENTS ABOUT DENISE AND PRINCE...SAID SOME INTERESTING THINGS IF YOU WANT TO READ WHAT HE SAID THIS TIME, GO TO THE THREAD THAT SAYS HOW SOON IS TOO SOON? IT'S IN ASSOCIATED ARTISTS.

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GeniusLuv said:

FOR WHOEVER IS INTERESTED DENISE'S BROTHER IN LAW (TOB is his username) CAME BACK AND RESPONDED TO OUR QUESTIONS/COMMENTS ABOUT DENISE AND PRINCE...SAID SOME INTERESTING THINGS IF YOU WANT TO READ WHAT HE SAID THIS TIME, GO TO THE THREAD THAT SAYS HOW SOON IS TOO SOON? IT'S IN ASSOCIATED ARTISTS.

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New stuff?? Cool.