endiadj said:

75 pages will never be enough for this beautiful duo. Too bad there aren't more pics and stories to share . Too bad Denise didn't stick around and do PR. It would've been EPIC!

FOR YOU ENDIADJ........

pnv said:

GeniusLuv said:

endiadj said:

75 pages will never be enough for this beautiful duo. Too bad there aren't more pics and stories to share . Too bad Denise didn't stick around and do PR. It would've been EPIC!

FOR YOU ENDIADJ........

Thank you!

suomynona said:

slvrhrt7 said:

Thoughts??

Thoughts? How about 75 pages was enough.

pnv said:

BillieBalloon said:

Prince loved vanity more than he loved his guitar Every song he ever wrote was about her They both loved looking for each other in random mirrors. Next question

Thank U.,...Prince said "There is no me without you" he really meant it!!!!!

. . . without you there is no me. . ."

When he sings Adore in the tribute to her I get chills . It is clear that whatever was btwn him and Denise/Vanity was alive and well and the loss he felt with her not on the planet with him was palpable. It brings tears to my eyes and him admitting The Beautiful Ones was about her too. It is special - a special gift he left confirming what she was for and to him.

bondno9 said:

jaawwnn said:

Not this again

here, go wild, 75 pages of it:

http://prince.org/msg/5/424143

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But the thread closed so I am glad to see another

GhostChick said:

GeniusLuv said:

Yes! I agree 100% it was something that never really left him, or he could ever get over. I just hope they had a chance to say good-bye even if it was just over the phone

Still feel their passing so close 2gether was not as much of a coincidence as some may think..............even people who new them felt she was the love of his life. Ugggh Now i'm sad again

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RIP Beautiful Ones

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Really? Because people "who knew Prince" said that about Mayte too and then of course Shelia was the one that "got away" and then those that knew him said "Susannah was the love of Prince's life". And let's not forget that he "didn't want to divorce Mani".

I mean come on, I think people that are around Prince when these women were active in his life are going to say that about that particular person.

The ONLY person that can say who he thinks was the "love of his life" is Prince.

I agree and listen to his music and it tells you and her death clearly effected him. He had to transition to join her- they were spiritually connected.

avajane said:

pnv said:

I think Prince was continuing to work on himself growing and maturing. Yes I do believe Vanity had his heart. No I don't believe the media saying he was a long time addict. I think the addiction came recently after Vanity's passing. He was having a hard time dealing with her death.

Now that's taking it way too far. He got addicted in two months and then died? Don't think so. He was sufferibg from flu-like symptoms, symptoms associated with withdrawal so the best conclusion is that he was trying to wean off the medication cold turkey but his body couldn't handle it which led to his death. As far as the 75 pages of speculation, well it's mainly the same 3 or 4 people who were posting. Again, everyone has a right to believe whatever they want, but the line is crossed when people start romanticizing his death imo.

I couldn't had said it better myself.

They had an intense relationship but it was over. She moved on, to Jesus and she seemed very serious about that and her ministry.

He moved on too. He only dedicated the songs on 1 night after she died. That's it.

GhostChick said:

avajane said:

pnv said: [/b] Now that's taking it way too far. He got addicted in two months and then died? Don't think so. He was sufferibg from flu-like symptoms, symptoms associated with withdrawal so the best conclusion is that he was trying to wean off the medication cold turkey but his body couldn't handle it which led to his death. As far as the 75 pages of speculation, well it's mainly the same 3 or 4 people who were posting. Again, everyone has a right to believe whatever they want, but the line is crossed when people start romanticizing his death imo.

I couldn't had said it better myself.

They had an intense relationship but it was over. She moved on, to Jesus and she seemed very serious about that and her ministry.

He moved on too. He only dedicated the songs on 1 night after she died. That's it.

He didn't have to dedicate ANYTHING to her at all, it was over 35 yrs ago, he didn't have to dedicate most of the show to her, sing all those songs and put her name in them..tell stories of the 2 of them, cry the way he did and even have to walk off stage at times or say ''her and i loved each oither deeply'' he didn't have to do any of that--------------but he did

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Also I have to say I liked reading Alan Light's book about the making of Purple Rain but was very annoyed that there was barely really anything about Denise in it. I was under the impression that she and Prince kinda came up with the story together and she inspired it. At least that is what I remember her saying in certain interviews like her Playboy interview.

Krystalkisses said:

Also I have to say I liked reading Alan Light's book about the making of Purple Rain but was very annoyed that there was barely really anything about Denise in it. I was under the impression that she and Prince kinda came up with the story together and she inspired it. At least that is what I remember her saying in certain interviews like her Playboy interview.

I always felt that for whatever reason he did not want to delve into Prince and Vanity.

I never was able to see her Playboy interview andit is often mentioned.

Vashtix said:

Krystalkisses said:

Also I have to say I liked reading Alan Light's book about the making of Purple Rain but was very annoyed that there was barely really anything about Denise in it. I was under the impression that she and Prince kinda came up with the story together and she inspired it. At least that is what I remember her saying in certain interviews like her Playboy interview.

I always felt that for whatever reason he did not want to delve into Prince and Vanity.

I never was able to see her Playboy interview andit is often mentioned.

I got that vibe too, play down her importance.

GhostChick said:

avajane said:

pnv said: [/b] Now that's taking it way too far. He got addicted in two months and then died? Don't think so. He was sufferibg from flu-like symptoms, symptoms associated with withdrawal so the best conclusion is that he was trying to wean off the medication cold turkey but his body couldn't handle it which led to his death. As far as the 75 pages of speculation, well it's mainly the same 3 or 4 people who were posting. Again, everyone has a right to believe whatever they want, but the line is crossed when people start romanticizing his death imo.

I couldn't had said it better myself.

They had an intense relationship but it was over. She moved on, to Jesus and she seemed very serious about that and her ministry.

He moved on too. He only dedicated the songs on 1 night after she died. That's it.

You are right. He didn't. BUT people do that after they lose a friend that they knew from way back when. That ONE story he told was from over 30 years ago.

I mean Morris Day is doing the same thing on his Facebook page. I mean before Prince died, it was all stuff related to The Time and him and just other stuff. I barely saw any Prince on there.

BUT now that Prince has past, Morris has been posting Prince pics NONSTOP. You would had thought they were lovers or something.

It happens. When people you were friends with from your past die, you think and talk about those days. It brings back memories. and there is always a "love" there, it's just not romantic.

Shoot speaking of Morris, he put a pic of Prince and Vanity on his page and guess what, he also just put a pic of Prince and Appollonia's scene when she kissed him on the cheek.

Morris grieving hard. I mean, pic after pic.

Sometimes death of a loved one makes you either think about the good times (Prince telling the story about Vanity) OR keep their memory alive (Morris constant pic post and Shelia's tributes)

I think his overwhelming sorrow at the MELBOURNE concert the day she died showed the true importance she did have in his life...up until the day she died

There's just no denying it now.

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I am not saying she wasn't important in his life or had an imprint. I was just saying I don't think it was as deep as some of you guys are saying.

In other words, I don't think they were still in love or he was still in love with her.

Now I do think that it probably took him a long time to get over the heartbreak of losing her back in the 80's and I do think he never really got over that BUT I don't think that he held on to her like he was STILL in love with her to her dying day.

That's what I am trying to say. Prince loved everybody pretty much from back then. He STILL called Andre Cymone his "best friend'. He STILL said that he loved Morris. He STILL talked to Terry Lewis years after Terry and Jimmy left MN for Cali. He STILL had Cat Glover's back. He STILL looked out for past members of his band.

He STILL loved Wendy and Lisa.

That's just how he was. Now Mani and Mayte, I can't really comment on that because they were wives, that's different, but all those from back in the day? Yeah, he had major love for them. Even if he didn't talk to them that often.

And had it been Morris or Andre or Shelia or Susie or Jill or Terry or Mark or even Levi or Cat, he would had broken down over them too.

Vashtix said:

avajane said:

Goddess4Real said:

Vashtix said:

They are 2gether now..its what ultimately what was meant 2 be..i feel thats all that matters..God works in amazing ways and this is one of the most miraculous examples of God's divine intervention...RIP beautiful ones!

GhostChick said:

I am not saying she wasn't important in his life or had an imprint. I was just saying I don't think it was as deep as some of you guys are saying.

In other words, I don't think they were still in love or he was still in love with her.

Now I do think that it probably took him a long time to get over the heartbreak of losing her back in the 80's and I do think he never really got over that BUT I don't think that he held on to her like he was STILL in love with her to her dying day.

That's what I am trying to say. Prince loved everybody pretty much from back then. He STILL called Andre Cymone his "best friend'. He STILL said that he loved Morris. He STILL talked to Terry Lewis years after Terry and Jimmy left MN for Cali. He STILL had Cat Glover's back. He STILL looked out for past members of his band.

He STILL loved Wendy and Lisa.

That's just how he was. Now Mani and Mayte, I can't really comment on that because they were wives, that's different, but all those from back in the day? Yeah, he had major love for them. Even if he didn't talk to them that often.

And had it been Morris or Andre or Shelia or Susie or Jill or Terry or Mark or even Levi or Cat, he would had broken down over them too.

And let's not forget that moving tribute D'Angelo did on Prince's behalf, singing "Sometimes It Snows In April" on YouTube. When he sang the line, "I often dream of heaven and I know that Prince is there" (substituting Prince's name for Tracey's in the original song) he was "paying tribute" something people in the entertainment busineness have always done and will continue to do to their fellow musicians, protegees, colleagues and what not. As far as Prince donating money to Vanity's cause when she was sick, P being the type of person he was would have put all the money she needed into her go fund me account anonymously, cause that's how he was. But P didn't know she was as sick as she was this last time because she and P had not spoken to each other in years. Did he love her? "Yes!" Was his love for her somehow different than any other woman who had been in his life? I would say an emphatic "No!"

PaisleyPrint said:

PaisleyPrint said:

GhostChick said:

I am not saying she wasn't important in his life or had an imprint. I was just saying I don't think it was as deep as some of you guys are saying.

In other words, I don't think they were still in love or he was still in love with her.

Now I do think that it probably took him a long time to get over the heartbreak of losing her back in the 80's and I do think he never really got over that BUT I don't think that he held on to her like he was STILL in love with her to her dying day.

That's what I am trying to say. Prince loved everybody pretty much from back then. He STILL called Andre Cymone his "best friend'. He STILL said that he loved Morris. He STILL talked to Terry Lewis years after Terry and Jimmy left MN for Cali. He STILL had Cat Glover's back. He STILL looked out for past members of his band.

He STILL loved Wendy and Lisa.

That's just how he was. Now Mani and Mayte, I can't really comment on that because they were wives, that's different, but all those from back in the day? Yeah, he had major love for them. Even if he didn't talk to them that often.

And had it been Morris or Andre or Shelia or Susie or Jill or Terry or Mark or even Levi or Cat, he would had broken down over them too.

And let's not forget that moving tribute D'Angelo did on Prince's behalf, singing "Sometimes It Snows In April" on YouTube. When he sang the line, "I often dream of heaven and I know that Prince is there" (substituting Prince's name for Tracey's in the original song) he was "paying tribute" something people in the entertainment busineness have always done and will continue to do to their fellow musicians, protegees, colleagues and what not. As far as Prince donating money to Vanity's cause when she was sick, P being the type of person he was would have put all the money she needed into her go fund me account anonymously, cause that's how he was. But P didn't know she was as sick as she was this last time because she and P had not spoken to each other in years. Did he love her? "Yes!" Was his love for her somehow different than any other woman who had been in his life? I would say an emphatic "No!"

But how do you know this????

Speaking from the standpoint of someone with abandonment issues, who, I am discovering, has had similar experiences occur in my childhood as Prince had; if someone betrays a trust, if someone abandons us by walking away, if someone cheats on us, it definitly has a deep and lasting impact on us. However, it is also as though, since they have taken something so sacred that we offered to them (our love and our trust) and essentially threw it back in our face, that love dies a quick and painful death. We do not always look back on them with fondness, instead we remember the hurt and pain of their abandoning us. However, at the time, it is also the most difficult relationship to get over because they abandoned us by walking away. Usually, due to our trust issues and desire to control the outcome of things because we didn't have control in our childhood, and thinking "they'll leave any way" we usually are the ones that walk away first and the pain is much less that way. But if they walk away from us, it brings forth every one of our abandonment and trust issues and the pain is excruciating. No, we never forget that individual, but we don't live our life in love with the one that got away. We may try for awhile to get back with that person, but mainly because of our abandonment issues and the desire to get that person back at all costs, just as a child who was abandoned by a parent wants that parent back. Eventually, we come to terms with the fact they aren't coming back and we move forward with our life, and that person, while not forgotten, is no longer someone we desire in any shape, form, or fashion. We don't think about them any longer, until someone or something brings forth the memory of that person. (BTW, I warn any potential partners from the get-go that I do have abandonment issues and that I have trust issues, and tell them, "If I give my trust to you, don't betray it, because once you betray it you'll never get it back, and for me the relationship ends in that moment." I realize these are my issues and I don't let anyone get into a relationship with me without knowing what they are getting into.

In case you doubt similarities in upbringing: parental figure leaving home at age 7 - his father divorced his mother and moved out of the family home, my mother died; lived in many different homes - he said in an interview he had moved 22 times by the time he was 21, I had moved 25 times by the time I was 21; it's been reported he was locked in his room somewhere around age 9+ by his step-father, I was locked in a closet as punishment by my father between ages 5 and 7; he said in an interview he didn't like his step-father because he only bought them things, never sat down and talked with him or gave him companionship (age 9+), from age 8+ I lived with an aunt and uncle tha never gave affection, never talked with me, only cared if I did my chores or not, never came to any basketball or volleyball games or track meets. Prince's father told him at 12 that no he could not come back home (to a child that age, it's a "I don't want you"), at 8 my father came home and told me he was putting me and my sister up for adoption (to a child that age, "I don't want you"), then at 14, after running away from my aunt and uncle's, I learned, "We never wanted you, just your sister, but your dad wouldn't let you and your sister be separated so we had to take you." I could go on.

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Folks with early abandonment issues do things in all their later relationships to damage and undermine them. Its their way of having some control. Very destructive cycle of self-preservation, as it were.

I was born in 1986, so the Prince-Vanity relationship occurred before my time. I'm not trying to be judgemental, but I do find it a bit odd that some people think Vanity was his true love, even though he was married twice. Could anyone provide links to other threads on this site, interviews, videos, or other sources that describe their relationship? There's plenty on Prince and Mayte's relationship, but it's harder to find stuff on Prince and Vanity.

StopIt said:

Folks with early abandonment issues do things in all their later relationships to damage and undermine them. Its their way of having some control. Very destructive cycle of self-preservation, as it were.

206Michelle said:

I was born in 1986, so the Prince-Vanity relationship occurred before my time. I'm not trying to be judgemental, but I do find it a bit odd that some people think Vanity was his true love, even though he was married twice. Could anyone provide links to other threads on this site, interviews, videos, or other sources that describe their relationship? There's plenty on Prince and Mayte's relationship, but it's harder to find stuff on Prince and Vanity.

There are major threads about them..long ones..start with the Associated Artists section...they may still be around..he talked about her the day she died, he was so very emotional and truly destraught about her passing..he said ''we loved each other deeply....'' it effected him greatly..he died 2 months later as well

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GeniusLuv said:

206Michelle said:

I was born in 1986, so the Prince-Vanity relationship occurred before my time. I'm not trying to be judgemental, but I do find it a bit odd that some people think Vanity was his true love, even though he was married twice. Could anyone provide links to other threads on this site, interviews, videos, or other sources that describe their relationship? There's plenty on Prince and Mayte's relationship, but it's harder to find stuff on Prince and Vanity.

There are major threads about them..long ones..start with the Associated Artists section...they may still be around..he talked about her the day she died, he was so very emotional and truly destraught about her passing..he said ''we loved each other deeply....'' it effected him greatly..he died 2 months later as well

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Yuuuuuuuuup during the Piano & Microphone tour especially in Melbourne.