KingSausage said:

DarkKnight1 said:

Absolutely. This is about as cut and dry as it gets. Any discussion to the contrary is ridiculous. Take off the tin foil hats and lets come to terms with this as a fans of Prince and his music. Its not easy, because one of the toughest things to swallow is that Prince's death could have been avoided. The report made things crystal clear.

THIS. THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS. There's nothing "fishy" about his death. Yes, there are unknowns involved, questions that haven't been answered. But all the posts here talking about this or that conspiracy are just fucking ridiculous.

I've been saying on here for years that it seemed to me like something wasn't right with Prince and most of the time the responses I got were along the same lines of "that's just fucking ridiculous". So I think I'll just stick with my way of seeing things.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

I agree with your take on everything. I do believe Prince wanted help and to be off the painkillers. I don't think he wanted to be reliant on ANYTHING...he was all about being "free". I can imagine he was pretty desperate to get off of whatever he was taking and I can only assume his overdoes scare really shook him and he realised the severity of the situation (we all are born with a survival instinct and we natually resist death) I believe his chronic pain was very real however and intolorable and I hate how the media wants to lump him in that cliche "rock star druggie, taking it to get high club". I think he was really trying to mange his pain...he never seemed like someone how was abusing it for emotional reasons like Anna Nicole Smith, I never thought he acted weird and loopy. Painkillers are seriously addictive and dangerous, I remember after I had my wisdom teeth pulled I took the bear minimum and got rid of the rest. Prince just never seemed like a drug person to me and I have to admit I was shocked he was even on opioids...he always acted like "Prince" you know. I'm sure his pain had to be extreme to even consider taking painkillers you know. I could be wrong but that is what my intuition says for what it's worth.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Still with you on this!

What makes me think something is fishy is... I keep reading that he saw the same dr on Apr.7 & Apr 20....those are the same dates that first the emergency plane landing then the fatality.

facts are:

April 7: Prince cancels the scheduled shows that night in Atlanta (saying he is suffering of the flu)

April 14: the rescheduled shows in Atlanta

night April 14 - 15: the emergency plane landing, Prince is treated for an overdose of opiates.

April 20: Prince is photographed on the parking lot of a pharmacy

night of April 20 - 21: Prince dies of an overdose of opioids that can be obtained on prescription at a pharmacy.

Nothing fishy, well maybe except for the reason why the shows in Atlanta on April 7 were cancelled.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Still with you on this!

What makes me think something is fishy is... I keep reading that he saw the same dr on Apr.7 & Apr 20....those are the same dates that first the emergency plane landing then the fatality.

Fishy, no. Suspect, yes. This doctor claims he didn't prescribe opiates to Prince, rather he prescribed medications to help with his withdrawal symptoms. He could have very well prescribed him sedatives, valium, klonopin...some type of benzo. That mixed with Fentanyl taken orally/intraveniously could have been enough to kill him, and I think that is exactly what happened which is why each time he saw this doctor, he overdosed w/in a day. First and foremost if there is 'blame' to assign, it belongs to Prince because addicts have to own their behavior. But next in line is the 'doctor' who does not specialize in addictions and helped prince do a DIY detox. He should IMO loose his liscense.

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roverlo said:

THIS!!!

keenly said:

jpav said:

I've seen so many conspiracy theories here, so many people implying some hidden mystery, often alluding to something being "fishy", even with the coroner's report.

Prince's death was so many things: tragic, frustrating, sad, shocking, infuriating, but it isn't fishy.

He had years of chronic pain, became addicted to painkillers, was surrounded by yes men who enabled him, didn't believe he would die, and didn't stay in the hospital when he should have. He was alone most of the time and was alone when he died.

It's bad enough that we lost him. It magnifies the tragedy when people can't just allow reality to be what it is and not create a mystery that isn't there.

No, it does not.

You do not know the reality. None of us do. We know what we have been told.

I don't think it is fishy. I think there are questions to be answered which I am sure the police are looking into (like whether the fentanyl was prescribed or obtained illegally).

Since the local doctor was apparently treating Prince for the effects of withdrawal, that would suggest that he had stopped taking an opiate at some point or was tapering down his dose.

Prince's chef mentioned a history of several months of troubling symptoms, some of which could be linked with withdrawal: gastrointestinal problems, flu like symptoms, loss of appetie and weight loss.

Depending on how long he had been abstinent or how much his usage had reduced, all he had to do was start back with exactly the same opiate dose he used before and he would immediately be in danger of overdose because his tolerance would have dwindled.

Combine that with some of the standard drugs used to treat withdrawal symptoms like benzodiazepines and that makes respiratory depression even more likely.

Really sad.

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

nursev said:

I'm sorry but there are a lot of pieces to this puzzle that are missing...so I'm saying it is fishy.

Exactly! I've personally known people that got high off heroin and that shit is no joke, so if fentanyl is supposedly 50 times stronger than heroin, and the day he died wasn't the first time he'd taken it, how in the fuck was he functioning and how in the fuck did the people closest to him not know he was high as all hell? I'm saying it's fishy too.

No, 100,000 times stronger than heroine

They should give people a break.

LyraB said:

I don't think it is fishy. I think there are questions to be answered which I am sure the police are looking into (like whether the fentanyl was prescribed or obtained illegally).

Since the local doctor was apparently treating Prince for the effects of withdrawal, that would suggest that he had stopped taking an opiate at some point or was tapering down his dose.

Prince's chef mentioned a history of several months of troubling symptoms, some of which could be linked with withdrawal: gastrointestinal problems, flu like symptoms, loss of appetie and weight loss.

Depending on how long he had been abstinent or how much his usage had reduced, all he had to do was start back with exactly the same opiate dose he used before and he would immediately be in danger of overdose because his tolerance would have dwindled.

Combine that with some of the standard drugs used to treat withdrawal symptoms like benzodiazepines and that makes respiratory depression even more likely.

Really sad.

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I agree with everything you said. You've said exactly what I've been thinking. Thank you.

nursev said:

I'm sorry but there are a lot of pieces to this puzzle that are missing...so I'm saying it is fishy.

Yes, yes and yes.

TopazGirl said:

LyraB said:

I don't think it is fishy. I think there are questions to be answered which I am sure the police are looking into (like whether the fentanyl was prescribed or obtained illegally).

Since the local doctor was apparently treating Prince for the effects of withdrawal, that would suggest that he had stopped taking an opiate at some point or was tapering down his dose.

Prince's chef mentioned a history of several months of troubling symptoms, some of which could be linked with withdrawal: gastrointestinal problems, flu like symptoms, loss of appetie and weight loss.

Depending on how long he had been abstinent or how much his usage had reduced, all he had to do was start back with exactly the same opiate dose he used before and he would immediately be in danger of overdose because his tolerance would have dwindled.

Combine that with some of the standard drugs used to treat withdrawal symptoms like benzodiazepines and that makes respiratory depression even more likely.

Really sad.

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I agree with everything you said. You've said exactly what I've been thinking. Thank you.

Hmm. Only a history of several months. Include the throat problems and those are symptoms of arsenic poisoning ... as well as anemia and joint pain. And why would he care about checking to see if Prince had eaten the food he'd made .... ? To toss it ? Jus' sayin' ...

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ChanGirl said:

KingSausage said:

ChanGirl said:

Hmm. Only a history of several months. Include the throat problems and those are symptoms of arsenic poisoning ... as well as anemia and joint pain. And why would he care about checking to see if Prince had eaten the food he'd made .... ? To toss it ? Jus' sayin' ...

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Arsenic poisoning? Oh for fuck sake....Yes, Colonel Mustard killed him in the pantry with the wrench!

I'm sorry for laughing it feel inappropriate - but I'm laughing my ass off at this.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

terrig said:

KingSausage said:

Arsenic poisoning? Oh for fuck sake....Yes, Colonel Mustard killed him in the pantry with the wrench!

I'm sorry for laughing it feel inappropriate - but I'm laughing my ass off at this.

Nah, that's the appropriate response. The board would be better off with a little more of this, in fact.

no there's nothing fishy, except that it may turn into a criminal investigation. ok, you think what you want, but if you can possibly explain to me why he was left alone in that house after picking up his drugs, and make it logical, then I'll say nothing is fishy.

oh, and remember, he's DEAD.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Purplealegria7 said:

1contessa said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

ChanGirl said:

Mumio said:

I'm not at all into conspiracy theory so no, I don't think he was murdered by anyone. But I'm convinced there is more to this than what we've been told in the public report from the ME...and rest assured, we are only hearing what the family wants us to hear and that may not be the only medical issue he had. I don't dispute that there was an overdose, I don't dispute that he may have been using opioids for pain issues, but I don't believe he was an abuser for one minute. There was more going on. I do believe he was terminally ill and I also believe that people close to him did know this. We'll just have to wait and see if anything more comes out.

I justwonder if he was terminally ill, why he didnt make a will.

cindyt said:

KingSausage said: