ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

destinyc1 said:

BINGO...... I'm thinking there is a child out there.Somehow they contacted the two attorneys or whoever tyka has involved.Bottom line its game on bitches.jmho

You cant even understand how much I love that you said "game on bitches."

=)

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

teach49 said:

I see what you mean that the documents could shed light on the legitimacy of other relatives, most notably Duane, if there is indeed a question about him. However, the rest of his siblings are known and biological and have been involved in the process from the beginning, so it seems unlikely that more documenttion is really needed, unless there's a sibling out there no one knows about. I'd think it's more likely there 's a child out there we don't know about than another sibling.

For the legal folks lurking, would the law firm have needed to go through the judge if it were documentation about the location of a will? Would attorney/client privilege remain in effect about that even after death when there is a probate case ongoing?

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You would NOT need a waiver of attorney/client privilege if it involved a location of a will. In fact, it is your DUTY as an attorney to come forward.

People dont have wills and then tell their attorneys they cannot tell anyone about the will. That defeats the purpose.

right

Please keep all eyes and ears open Oh Purple Army. Things can change fast.

I only hope that someone applies to have Paisley Park listed on the National Register. It is a cultural touchstone - built by the finest American artist of the last 40 years. This would be one way to preserve part of his legacy for all time.

mailaccount63 said:

Please keep all eyes and ears open Oh Purple Army. Things can change fast.

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I read about this on another site and have not had time to check the MN court site to see if this is true.

Bremer made a request to the court to make a payment to a large law firm. Why would Bremer need special permission to pay a bill. Could this be due to an attorney lien which allows attorney’s to hold a work product? Could the work product be a will or a trust? Would the law firm that handled P’s divorce who has come forward be obligated to provide the work product even if Prince owed the firm money?

The law firm coming forward or being contacted by Bremer after 3 months is very strange.

laurarichardson said:

mailaccount63 said:

Please keep all eyes and ears open Oh Purple Army. Things can change fast.

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I read about this on another site and have not had time to check the MN court site to see if this is true.

Bremer made a request to the court to make a payment to a large law firm. Why would Bremer need special permission to pay a bill. Could this be due to an attorney lien which allows attorney’s to hold a work product? Could the work product be a will or a trust? Would the law firm that handled P’s divorce who has come forward be obligated to provide the work product even if Prince owed the firm money?

The law firm coming forward or being contacted by Bremer after 3 months is very strange.

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The court has to approve *all* payments by Bremer; they can't just disburse money.

The "large law firm" getting the payment could be the attorneys currently charged to "monetize the estate" (ie, the music vault, etc).

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laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:

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I read about this on another site and have not had time to check the MN court site to see if this is true.

Bremer made a request to the court to make a payment to a large law firm. Why would Bremer need special permission to pay a bill. Could this be due to an attorney lien which allows attorney’s to hold a work product? Could the work product be a will or a trust? Would the law firm that handled P’s divorce who has come forward be obligated to provide the work product even if Prince owed the firm money?

The law firm coming forward or being contacted by Bremer after 3 months is very strange.

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The court has to approve *all* payments by Bremer; they can't just disburse money.

The "large law firm" getting the payment could be the attorneys currently charged to "monetize the estate" (ie, the music vault, etc).

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But they haven't done any monetizing yet, have they?

laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:

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I read about this on another site and have not had time to check the MN court site to see if this is true.

Bremer made a request to the court to make a payment to a large law firm. Why would Bremer need special permission to pay a bill. Could this be due to an attorney lien which allows attorney’s to hold a work product? Could the work product be a will or a trust? Would the law firm that handled P’s divorce who has come forward be obligated to provide the work product even if Prince owed the firm money?

The law firm coming forward or being contacted by Bremer after 3 months is very strange.

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The court has to approve *all* payments by Bremer; they can't just disburse money.

The "large law firm" getting the payment could be the attorneys currently charged to "monetize the estate" (ie, the music vault, etc).

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My question was concerning a law firm holding a work product due to an attorney's lien. Could a law firm hold a will or trust because payment was not made? In addtion, the request to ask the judge if his old firm that handled his divorce could have permission to release "work product' to Bremer leads me to think that firm is holding a work product.

FlyOnTheWall said:

laytonian said:

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The court has to approve *all* payments by Bremer; they can't just disburse money.

The "large law firm" getting the payment could be the attorneys currently charged to "monetize the estate" (ie, the music vault, etc).

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But they haven't done any monetizing yet, have they?

Bremer might be paying bills that are due but that would have nothing to due with a law firm payment You do not need a law firm to pay bills that are due.

Lawyers Might Have 'Potentially Relevant' Info on Prince Heirs LINK HERE

A judge says a Minnesota law firm may have "potentially relevant" information for determining who should inherit Prince's estate.

The order says the firm "might possess confidential information potentially relevant to the determination of the appropriate beneficiaries" of Prince's estate. The order doesn't say what that information might be.

Also, Prince - or the people charged with paying his bills (personal and business) - had a reputation for not paying in a timely manner. It didn't matter if it was a tax bill or any lesser invoice. Bremer has to resolve everything from before 04-21, and also pay what is currently due.

2020 said:

1Sasha said:

laurarichardson said:

2020 said:

Lawyers Might Have 'Potentially Relevant' Info on Prince Heirs LINK HERE

A judge says a Minnesota law firm may have "potentially relevant" information for determining who should inherit Prince's estate.

The order says the firm "might possess confidential information potentially relevant to the determination of the appropriate beneficiaries" of Prince's estate. The order doesn't say what that information might be.

--- Actually the firm is asking for permission to release"a work product and information that was confidential. Can someone answer my question? Can a law firm hold a work product due outstanding fees?

I am an attorney. You dont withhold confidential information relative to the determination of appropriate beneficiaries in order to get paid attorney fees. If this law firm is owed attorney fees by Prince they have to file the appropriate paperwork with probate court as any other creditor would.

There is something in the attorney files that they need Prince (cant), or his personal representative (Bremer) to sign an attorney/client waiver.

This law firm represented Prince on his divorce to Mani. We dont know if these attorneys represented Prince prior to the divorce from Mani, or even if they represented him after the divorce to Mani.

But I do know when you go through a divorce you have to disclose all joint, individual, and business assets and debts. Maybe Prince disclosed a Trust during the divorce.

It came to the attorneys and Judge's attention not as long as you think because all we see is an Order signed by the Judge. Obviously, this has been discussed for awhile before an Order went on.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

Also, Prince - or the people charged with paying his bills (personal and business) - had a reputation for not paying in a timely manner. It didn't matter if it was a tax bill or any lesser invoice. Bremer has to resolve everything from before 04-21, and also pay what is currently due.

-- I remember reading that he was being sued by the law firm that handled his divorce although it may have not have been this firm. I also did not see any judgements from a law firm on the Carver County site.

Apparently, there was some sort of arbitration agreement that Prince was paying.

http://www.mncourts.gov/m...eement.pdf

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Here is a court document regarding litigation and a licensing agreement: http://www.mncourts.gov/m...eement.pdf

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tmo1965 said:

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said: -- I remember reading that he was being sued by the law firm that handled his divorce although it may have not have been this firm. I also did not see any judgements from a law firm on the Carver County site.

Apparently, there was some sort of arbitration agreement that Prince was paying.

http://www.mncourts.gov/m...eement.pdf

I swear the Court slips in these filed documents at a later date so we cant find them. Well, this is interesting because these attorneys NEVER requested the Court to approve an attorney/client waiver to continue on with this arbitration settlement. Maybe this had to do with the Sony lawsuit that was filed in March 2015.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I swear the Court slips in these filed documents at a later date so we cant find them. Well, this is interesting because these attorneys NEVER requested the Court to approve an attorney/client waiver to continue on with this arbitration settlement. Maybe this had to do with the Sony lawsuit that was filed in March 2015.

---- I found this http://www.mncourts.gov/m...eement.pdf Whatever the settlement is it was sealed by the court as confidential and the need to proceed with the payment was stressed. I hope this is just a settlement for the Judith Hill suit although I do not see why that would be confidential. What did our boy get himself into?

That document you are referring to the attorneys for Bremer Trust petitioning the Court to permit them to proceed with the settlement. The other document in the other post is the Order signed by the Judge granting their petition. The petition states it is related to business, and invloves something they didnt want the public to know about. Hmmmm. I dont understand why everything is a secret.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I swear the Court slips in these filed documents at a later date so we cant find them. Well, this is interesting because these attorneys NEVER requested the Court to approve an attorney/client waiver to continue on with this arbitration settlement. Maybe this had to do with the Sony lawsuit that was filed in March 2015.

Prince's attorney on this does not appear to have worked for the firm that said they information pertaining to heir's so this matter appears to be something different that may been resolved back in the June.

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Notice the names in that order?

Laura Krishnan is an ESTATE PLANNING ATTORNEY.

https://www.stinson.com/LauraKrishnan/

The name GARY HANSEN comes up in another document: "The above—entitled matter came before the Court on June 24, 2016, without a hearing. The Special Administrator is filing with the Court the Affidavit of Laura Krishnan and the Affidavit of Gary Hansen regarding the terms and conditions of a litigation settlement agreement and a licensing agreement for an awards ceremony."
http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Order-Regarding-Special-Administrator-s-Performance-of-Prior-Settlement-Agreement.pdf

It's hard to tell which direction this goes. Is it a payment BY the estate or a payment TO the estate? (I'm still trying to figure out what the deal is about "awards ceremony".)

EDIT:

It seems that Gary Hansen, a noted business attorney, represented Prince when the French were going after him for unpaid income taxes, resulting from concerts there. Details here:

http://www.twincities.com/2012/12/30/princes-taxes-paid-up-in-france-lawyer-says/

But licensing from an awards ceremony? I wonder if that was a take-down order from Prince?

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mailaccount63 said:

Please keep all eyes and ears open Oh Purple Army. Things can change fast.

Yep, that's why I am clutching my pearls.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: ---- I found this http://www.mncourts.gov/m...eement.pdf Whatever the settlement is it was sealed by the court as confidential and the need to proceed with the payment was stressed. I hope this is just a settlement for the Judith Hill suit although I do not see why that would be confidential. What did our boy get himself into?

That document you are referring to the attorneys for Bremer Trust petitioning the Court to permit them to proceed with the settlement. The other document in the other post is the Order signed by the Judge granting their petition. The petition states it is related to business, and invloves something they didnt want the public to know about. Hmmmm. I dont understand why everything is a secret.

very interesting.....

laurarichardson said:

I read about this on another site and have not had time to check the MN court site to see if this is true.

Bremer made a request to the court to make a payment to a large law firm. Why would Bremer need special permission to pay a bill.<Normally, the Administrator doesn't go to court and request specific permission to pay a specific bill unless it would be for a large amount for a very special reason. Usually, the Administrator just files a report/accounting with the court detailing estate bills paid in bunches, after the fact. Could this be due to an attorney lien which allows attorney’s to hold a work product? <There really is no way to tell right now exactly what it is for. Could the work product be a will or a trust? <There really is no way to tell right now exactly what it is for. Would the law firm that handled P’s divorce who has come forward be obligated to provide the work product even if Prince owed the firm money? <Technically, yes, but..... A lot of attorneys will hold workproduct as a threat, sometimes, even though they know they are not supposed to do this. (And they can always sue you in court for what you owe them.) Also, they will sometimes threaten that no further work will be done until they are paid <which they can do. There are MANY, MANY variables here, the great majority WE DO NOT KNOW. For example, maybe, they have a draft of a document for Prince, that didn't get signed yet, but as far as his intentions were known was to be signed. And then he suddenly passed. But, again, that is just theory. The law firm coming forward or being contacted by Bremer after 3 months is very strange. <I really don't think it is strange - Prince seemed to always be working on more than one project at a time. It could be anything....anything at all.

I really think we should cool our heels on all of this speculation, and just wait and see. Otherwise, we could get all worked up about some theory, and the reality be off in a completely different direction.

I think they know they are being watched. The Purple Army is massive. Have you noticed how quiet it has become?

I also think it will all come out eventually. It may not be revealed as fast as we want it to, but someone always talks eventually. It is human nature.

Just keep your eyes and ears peeled.

mailaccount63 said:

laurarichardson said:

I read about this on another site and have not had time to check the MN court site to see if this is true.

Bremer made a request to the court to make a payment to a large law firm. Why would Bremer need special permission to pay a bill.<Normally, the Administrator doesn't go to court and request specific permission to pay a specific bill unless it would be for a large amount for a very special reason. Usually, the Administrator just files a report/accounting with the court detailing estate bills paid in bunches, after the fact. Could this be due to an attorney lien which allows attorney’s to hold a work product? <There really is no way to tell right now exactly what it is for. Could the work product be a will or a trust? <There really is no way to tell right now exactly what it is for. Would the law firm that handled P’s divorce who has come forward be obligated to provide the work product even if Prince owed the firm money? <Technically, yes, but..... A lot of attorneys will hold workproduct as a threat, sometimes, even though they know they are not supposed to do this. (And they can always sue you in court for what you owe them.) Also, they will sometimes threaten that no further work will be done until they are paid <which they can do. There are MANY, MANY variables here, the great majority WE DO NOT KNOW. For example, maybe, they have a draft of a document for Prince, that didn't get signed yet, but as far as his intentions were known was to be signed. And then he suddenly passed. But, again, that is just theory. The law firm coming forward or being contacted by Bremer after 3 months is very strange. <I really don't think it is strange - Prince seemed to always be working on more than one project at a time. It could be anything....anything at all.

I really think we should cool our heels on all of this speculation, and just wait and see. Otherwise, we could get all worked up about some theory, and the reality be off in a completely different direction.

I think they know they are being watched. The Purple Army is massive. Have you noticed how quiet it has become?

I also think it will all come out eventually. It may not be revealed as fast as we want it to, but someone always talks eventually. It is human nature.

Just keep your eyes and ears peeled.

Yaass! Crickets. I totally agree, things will come out eventually.

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I swear the Court slips in these filed documents at a later date so we cant find them. Well, this is interesting because these attorneys NEVER requested the Court to approve an attorney/client waiver to continue on with this arbitration settlement. Maybe this had to do with the Sony lawsuit that was filed in March 2015.

---- I found this http://www.mncourts.gov/m...eement.pdf Whatever the settlement is it was sealed by the court as confidential and the need to proceed with the payment was stressed. I hope this is just a settlement for the Judith Hill suit although I do not see why that would be confidential. What did our boy get himself into?

Ok, it looks like I fell asleep somewhere along the way. When did this happen?

Sameyear58 said:

mailaccount63 said:

Please keep all eyes and ears open Oh Purple Army. Things can change fast.

Yep, that's why I am clutching my pearls.

Clutching your pearls made me spit wine on my monitor.

Im not gong to reply with any "quote" cuz it gets confusing.....Any attorney fees paid from the estate must be approved by the Judge. The Administrator must ALWAYS get approval from the Judge to pay attorney fees.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Im not gong to reply with any "quote" cuz it gets confusing.....Any attorney fees paid from the estate must be approved by the Judge. The Administrator must ALWAYS get approval from the Judge to pay attorney fees.

Right... I was thinking of bills in general. Also, the Administrator must also ALWAYS get specific approval from the Judge to pay the Administrator's fee. But we are nowhere near that yet, so THAT can't be it.

Maybe laurarichardson IS onto something... Maybe it is a bill from another law firm??

We are brainstormining here....... Yeah I was the one that just said that we shouldn't go off in a direction in the wild blue yonder regarding speculation.

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Sameyear58 said:

Yep, that's why I am clutching my pearls.

Clutching your pearls made me spit wine on my monitor.

The healing process must be proceeding. Some humor is starting to show up here and there.