http://www.startribune.com/prince-estate-case-heads-back-to-minnesota-courtroom/384482541/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune has reported on today's hearing. According to a Bremer Trust representative, they have looked through "thousands of boxes" but have not found a will. Tyka and the half-siblings want a narrow view of determining heirs, while a person making a "claim that Prince's real father was Alfred Jackson Sr." wants a broader view of heir eligibility. More than 12 people are making claims to be heirs, according to the article. Given all that is at stake, the judge stated, "I want to do it right because it's important to a lot of people."

http://www.startribune.com/prince-heirship-protocols-subject-of-carver-county-court-hearing/384503191/#1

This is the more recently filed story from the Minneapolis Star Tribune about today's hearing, which adds some details, including the fact that a Bremer Trust attorney says that although there had been correspondence of some nature indicating that there could be a will, after searching four locations and thousands of boxes, "the inquiry is coming to a close very soon."

EnDoRpHn said:

bilbolives said:

http://www.startribune.com/prince-heirship-protocols-subject-of-carver-county-court-hearing/384503191/#1

This is the more recently filed story from the Minneapolis Star Tribune about today's hearing, which adds some details, including the fact that a Bremer Trust attorney says that although there had been correspondence of some nature indicating that there could be a will, after searching four locations and thousands of boxes, "the inquiry is coming to a close very soon."

UGH. Thanks for the updates.

my fear is that at the end of it all, after attorneys' fees are subtracted there will be only $7.77 left for the heirs to divide

XxAxX said:

my fear is that at the end of it all, after attorneys' fees are subtracted there will be only $7.77 left for the heirs to divide

Sadly, this has happened to other artists in the past.

That is the first comment I've seen which mentions the possibility of a will. If only there was one ...

bilbolives said:

http://www.startribune.com/prince-heirship-protocols-subject-of-carver-county-court-hearing/384503191/#1

This is the more recently filed story from the Minneapolis Star Tribune about today's hearing, which adds some details, including the fact that a Bremer Trust attorney says that although there had been correspondence of some nature indicating that there could be a will, after searching four locations and thousands of boxes, "the inquiry is coming to a close very soon."

I overlooked that remark of evidence of a will "though there is some indication to the contrary based on some correspondence."

I took the inquiry coming to a close very soon as there is not much more to search.

I have a feeling the search may come up empty handed. However, I am curious now about the correspondence that is referenced.

nelcp777 said:

bilbolives said:

http://www.startribune.com/prince-heirship-protocols-subject-of-carver-county-court-hearing/384503191/#1

This is the more recently filed story from the Minneapolis Star Tribune about today's hearing, which adds some details, including the fact that a Bremer Trust attorney says that although there had been correspondence of some nature indicating that there could be a will, after searching four locations and thousands of boxes, "the inquiry is coming to a close very soon."

I overlooked that remark of evidence of a will "though there is some indication to the contrary based on some correspondence."

I took the inquiry coming to a close very soon as there is not much more to search.

I have a feeling the search may come up empty handed. However, I am curious now about the correspondence that is referenced.

The thought of them knowing there is a real possibility of a will but they're gonna stop looking is depressing. The Star Tribune also talked about Prince not trusting lawyers which makes no sense given that he had them - in fact wasn't it an attorney who was contacted about organising help for him? None of it makes sense.

Hello Everybody:

Yesterday (6/27/2016), in the pleadings that were filed with the Court:
*the Administrator of Prince's Estate (Bremer Trust) requested that the Court dismiss Rodney Dixon's claim (no big surprise>> comments may be unofficially inserted here);
*Prince's Certified Birth Certificate was filed; and
*the Court informed everyone that they have two more weeks (including yesterday) to submit documents "with respect to heirship", officially making the specific deadline July 8, 2018 for filing regarding heirship.

See: http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx

And another point of view from the media that (I thought) did a good summary:
http://www.billboard.com/...ine-claims
"Prince Estate: Judge Sets Two-Week Deadline for Genetic Protocol Decision" * by Keith Harris * 6/27/2016
"More than 20 attorneys crowded into a courtroom in suburban Minneapolis this morning (June 27) as a Minnesota judge set out to determine the proper procedures for proving a blood relationship to the late pop superstar Prince..... attorneys representing Prince's siblings urged a Minnesota judge to quickly approve a proposed procedure for demonstrating if a blood relationship to the late pop superstar exists. But a cautious Judge Kevin Eide concluded... that he would continue to receive written arguments... for two more weeks... "I want to make sure we get this right before we start excluding people," Judge Eide said.....

[Edited 6/28/16 13:50pm]

I like Judge Eide, he is thorough and wants to do right by the estate. I truly hope a will is found, perhaps it is with a friend or stuck inbetween the pages of a book. Would'nt it be like Prince that he would somehow find a way to legally record his wishes and they are simply waiting to be played on a reel to reel?

bilbolives said:

http://www.startribune.com/prince-estate-case-heads-back-to-minnesota-courtroom/384482541/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune has reported on today's hearing. According to a Bremer Trust representative, they have looked through "thousands of boxes" but have not found a will. Tyka and the half-siblings want a narrow view of determining heirs, while a person making a "claim that Prince's real father was Alfred Jackson Sr." wants a broader view of heir eligibility. More than 12 people are making claims to be heirs, according to the article. Given all that is at stake, the judge stated, "I want to do it right because it's important to a lot of people."

Pardon my ignorance, but when a person draws up a will, doesn't his/her lawyer keep a copy? Why do they think they are going to find a will at this point? Prince was not some recluse, he had several lawyers and business managers. If he had a will, one of them would know about it. Having said that, they should all lose their licenses for not persuading him to have one.

sallyb said:

bilbolives said:

http://www.startribune.com/prince-estate-case-heads-back-to-minnesota-courtroom/384482541/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune has reported on today's hearing. According to a Bremer Trust representative, they have looked through "thousands of boxes" but have not found a will. Tyka and the half-siblings want a narrow view of determining heirs, while a person making a "claim that Prince's real father was Alfred Jackson Sr." wants a broader view of heir eligibility. More than 12 people are making claims to be heirs, according to the article. Given all that is at stake, the judge stated, "I want to do it right because it's important to a lot of people."

Pardon my ignorance, but when a person draws up a will, doesn't his/her lawyer keep a copy? Why do they think they are going to find a will at this point? Prince was not some recluse, he had several lawyers and business managers. If he had a will, one of them would know about it. Having said that, they should all lose their licenses for not persuading him to have one.

You can create a will online, print it out and sign it.
No attorney involved.

I'm wondering if he sang a will

sallyb said:

Pardon my ignorance, but when a person draws up a will, doesn't his/her lawyer keep a copy? <<<Usually, yes.
Why do they think they are going to find a will at this point? <<<Sometimes, very strange things happen in estates. The lawyers have to show the Court that they have done the best they can.
Prince was not some recluse, he had several lawyers and business managers. <<<Right.
If he had a will, one of them would know about it. <<<Exactly.
Having said that, they should all lose their licenses for not persuading him to have one.<<<You can't force someone to do their Will.

But they could potentially get "into trouble" (get sanctioned, etc.) if they were aware that Prince did draw up a Will, but they did not make the Court aware of where the Will is and turn it into the Court. As I have said previously, everyone on the Earth now knows Prince is deceased, so there so be no reason why a Will isn't turned over by now. Also, a Will has to be witnessed - no witnesses have come forward either.

They are just being VERY, VERY careful. It is called: "due diligence" in legalese. They also want to make it into the court record that they have looked everywhere they can think of.

Remember that the existence of a will would not necessarily make the case less complicated. Wills can be contested, making things even messier and more expensive sometimes.

Hopefully the immediate family members will come to an agreement so that these frivilous claims can be disposed of in a timely manner. Otherwise attorney fees will eat up too much money, not to mention they still have the matter of taxes to consider.

laytonian said:

You can create a will online, print it out and sign it.
No attorney involved.

I'm wondering if he sang a will

This is not TV - this is reality. Theoretically, yes, you can create a Will online, but there are so many variables to doing that (every county is different, every state is different, etc., etc.), that it is really, really, really NOT a good idea. And someone with an estate of this size would be crazy to do that...........

No attorney involved?

>>>>>It still needs to be witnessed.<<<<< No witnesses have come forward either.


(This is not legal advice. This is for informational purposes only.)

babynoz said:

Remember that the existence of a will would not necessarily make the case less complicated.<<<<<Exactly.
Wills can be contested, making things even messier and more expensive sometimes.<<<<<Possibly.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And I have said this before: Knowing the above, AND if Prince was in an incredible amount of excrutiating pain, maybe Prince decided NOT to draw up a Will and just let the Court(s) handle his estate.

Just my theory.

[Edited 6/28/16 15:07pm]

nelcp777 said:

bilbolives said:

http://www.startribune.com/prince-heirship-protocols-subject-of-carver-county-court-hearing/384503191/#1

This is the more recently filed story from the Minneapolis Star Tribune about today's hearing, which adds some details, including the fact that a Bremer Trust attorney says that although there had been correspondence of some nature indicating that there could be a will, after searching four locations and thousands of boxes, "the inquiry is coming to a close very soon."

I overlooked that remark of evidence of a will "though there is some indication to the contrary based on some correspondence."

I took the inquiry coming to a close very soon as there is not much more to search.

I have a feeling the search may come up empty handed. However, I am curious now about the correspondence that is referenced.

Wait... I thought the quote "indication to the contrary" = indications contrary to the idea that he had a will, i.e., indication that he did not have a will Now I'm confused. But yes I would like to know who the correspondence was with, and I presume if that person or people are alive they would be questioned about it.

I was also interested in the comment about thousands of boxes at 4 locations... one of them is Paisley Park but any idea of where the other 3 locations might have been?

I'm confused. Isn't his given name Prince Rogers Nelson? Not that it matters I guess....

That bothered me too when I saw this document earlier too. Other court documents show Rogers as the middle name.

bigtimefan said:

I'm confused. Isn't his given name Prince Rogers Nelson? Not that it matters I guess

captiveunicorn said:

nelcp777 said:

I overlooked that remark of evidence of a will "though there is some indication to the contrary based on some correspondence."

I took the inquiry coming to a close very soon as there is not much more to search.

I have a feeling the search may come up empty handed. However, I am curious now about the correspondence that is referenced.

Wait... I thought the quote "indication to the contrary" = indications contrary to the idea that he had a will, i.e., indication that he did not have a will Now I'm confused. But yes I would like to know who the correspondence was with, and I presume if that person or people are alive they would be questioned about it.

I was also interested in the comment about thousands of boxes at 4 locations... one of them is Paisley Park but any idea of where the other 3 locations might have been?

didn't he also have several properities, like in the Caribbeean, Canada, Los Angeles, Las Vegas and of course the several smaller pieces of property in Minnesota

bigtimefan said:

I'm confused. Isn't his given name Prince Rogers Nelson? Not that it matters I guess....

The one I remember being posted here a few years back said Roger. The only thing I can think of is that a lot of southern black folk will call you Rogers if your name is Roger.

I have a friend named Roger but his whole family calls him Rogers.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_ESTATE?SITE=WNYC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press is also reporting that the judge has given lawyers until July 8 "to submit written positions on the DNA testing protocols and the interplay between the probate code and parentage law."

babynoz said:

bigtimefan said:

I'm confused. Isn't his given name Prince Rogers Nelson? Not that it matters I guess....

The one I remember being posted here a few years back said Roger. The only thing I can think of is that a lot of southern black folk will call you Rogers if your name is Roger.

I have a friend named Roger but his whole family calls him Rogers.

The birth announcement that has been floating around also says "Roger." And his mother wrote that.

MrNelson7 said:

babynoz said:

The one I remember being posted here a few years back said Roger. The only thing I can think of is that a lot of southern black folk will call you Rogers if your name is Roger.

I have a friend named Roger but his whole family calls him Rogers.

The birth announcement that has been floating around also says "Roger." And his mother wrote that.

I remember seeing that. It's supposedly a picture that Miss Mattie gave her sister, Prince's auntie.

Did anybody ever verify that it was real?

bigtimefan said:

SpinsterSister said:

captiveunicorn said:

Wait... I thought the quote "indication to the contrary" = indications contrary to the idea that he had a will, i.e., indication that he did not have a will Now I'm confused. But yes I would like to know who the correspondence was with, and I presume if that person or people are alive they would be questioned about it.

I was also interested in the comment about thousands of boxes at 4 locations... one of them is Paisley Park but any idea of where the other 3 locations might have been?

didn't he also have several properities, like in the Caribbeean, Canada, Los Angeles, Las Vegas and of course the several smaller pieces of property in Minnesota

According to Lenny Kravitz, he has a place in Paris also.

Why is there a "deceased" date on the birth certificate?

SpinsterSister said:

I like Judge Eide, he is thorough and wants to do right by the estate. I truly hope a will is found, perhaps it is with a friend or stuck inbetween the pages of a book. Would'nt it be like Prince that he would somehow find a way to legally record his wishes and they are simply waiting to be played on a reel to reel?

Probably in that vault somewhere, either like you mentioned, in between the pages of a notebook, or a recording marked 'afterlife' or something. One would think/hope they would thoroughly scour every millimetre of that place to be sure.