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Reply #150 posted 05/13/16 6:34pm

hifidelity67

KEROUAC said:

I came across another example today quite by accident. There is a really great site for learning guitar called Justinguitar.com where the guy who runs it teaches guitar completely free in his youtube videos and he is excellent at it. I just saw this message from him....

"I was of course gutted to hear about the passing of Prince and a lot of people have been asking about a tribute lesson and I really want to, but he pulled all the lessons of his songs I had done (including some that never went live!) and it nearly cost me my channel! So I'm reluctant to risk it again until it's clear what's going on - though it seems a few others have managed to get some done without them getting pulled... I'll do some as soon as I can."

Kind of sad that Prince wouldn't even let a video of somoeone teaching how to play one of his songs be allowed on the web don't you think?

(PS Sorry I can't figure out how to insert spaces between my pargraphs)

[Edited 5/13/16 9:03am]

well that sux

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Reply #151 posted 05/13/16 6:41pm

hifidelity67

The fan base was clearly there, yet he chose not to give them a fair chance at hearing his music.



Prince kept the joy of his music from fans who loved his music. Heck, I'm a Prince fanatic and I haven't seen that "Batdance" video in decades. That should never have been the case. Never. He also kept that great music from young people who use youtube to discover music.


Couldn't agree more. For someone who uttered the fairly repellent, "I don't talk to old people…they try to find ways to stay static. Young folks are the ones with the ideas and constantly moving forward," he was awfully quick to reject the young folks ideas all the same.


So I wasnt imagining that fact I sometimes felt cheated

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Reply #152 posted 05/16/16 10:05am

Coolaid

RiotPaisley said:

sonshine said:
Yet how could they know when he made it so difficult. I feel quite strongly about artists being compensated and respected Prince for what he was doing mostly. But I don't see how having his music videos at least available for viewing. I've never stolen any music from any artist yet I know so many others do. That's sad. My kids all love music and I always wanted to share my love for Prince with them. They just never quite got there and that's where the music videos make a huge difference. It always takes the artist to a higher level of admiration imo when you have that visual experience to enhance the audio.
Im not sure how you say it was so diffict to access him. I had his videos on VHS in the 80s/90s, I bought his Hits DVD (it was stolen and I just bought it again) and his music could be found online FOR PURCHASE pretty easily. There were ALWAYS some Prince CDs/ DVDs in used book stores etc. besides, in the end he didn't care about fame or money he just wanted to make music and if it was out there he wanted to get paid. He's put out amazing albums that critics dissed because they just didn't get it. It's funny to me all these cats saying now what a genius he is... Rolling Stone giving him a whole mag when for years they acted like he was just that freaky dude who had a few hits. I mean part of me is happy he's getting the recognition he deserves now, but another part of me is pissed because he was ours, the fams, those of us that got it and respected his artistry and put up with his hijinx all these years cuz we LOVE HIM SO HARD. People coming on here saying oh he blew it... Garbage. He didn't blow nothing. He lived for his art and he died for it. He ran his ass to the ground. He worked himself to death and people are going to complain cuz they couldn't just type his name in a search bar and enjoy the show for free!!?!? As Prince would say, shut up already, damn!

i totally agree with you smile

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Reply #153 posted 05/16/16 4:49pm

stinasings

I agree that he was difficult and in his life he made his legacy harder to share past the generation that lived during his popularity. He should of had a vevo and re - released concert films etc. But I don't know if he would have been him if he did all those things. What I love about him is that he went his own way and did his own thing no matter what. That's what made me love him in the 1st place. Idk maybe if he was more accessible he wouldn't have had sold out shows with no notice decades after a hit single, or he wouldn't have been able to tour just himself and a piano and made it as magical as a full band. If we had unlimited access maybe we wouldn't have as much as of appreciation For the magic that was him. Idk
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Reply #154 posted 05/22/16 6:00am

Pokeno4Money

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stinasings said:

If we had unlimited access maybe we wouldn't have as much as of appreciation For the magic that was him. Idk


I don't think anybody was advocating unlimited access, they are saying SOME access would have given many people (especially younger ones) an opportunity to experience his performances for the first time and likely turn them into fans.

"Never let nasty stalkers disrespect you. They start shit, you finish it. Go down to their level, that's the only way they'll understand. You have to handle things yourself."
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Reply #155 posted 05/22/16 6:52am

EloiseEloise

laurarichardson said:

Cloreen said:

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In the wake of Prince's passing, something has dawned on me: Prince and his offbeat behavior with the caretaking of his music really cost him an opportunity to be a very special and extremely beloved entertainer.


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OK, I have no problem with Prince and his desire for privacy. Rare interviews with media, shut in at his home, few appearances outside of gigs...that's his choice and his lifestyle. More power to him. But it was his behavior regarding his music and its accessibility to the people that really seems like such a bad decision now.


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The outpouring of emotion after his death was really stunning. His death cut through all segments of our society. From the higher-ups to the guy in the slums; from celeb to average Joe; black, white, Puerto Rican, straight or gay... Prince reached us all. And all seemed to express great sadnes upon his passing. Newscasters all over TV wearing purple the next day, musical tributes from every artist performing, a statement from The President of The United States, a porno site named Pornhub replaced the P in its name with prince! My God, the top of the Empire State Building was lit purple upon his passing! Great sadness and love was expressed worldwide. The kind of reaction a real Prince or Princess (Diana) would get.


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Now here's where Prince blew it for all those years. Why release music only via download, or joining his club, or only overseas? I don't care that some of those records were jazz instrumentals -- he's an artist and all artists may craft what they please. But to limit the ability of people to obtain that music was flat out wrong. Look at all the Prince fans there truly are. These past two weeks have shown all those PURPLE RAIN fans were still out there loving Prince and his music. But he releases an album that can only be obtained in the newspapers of Europe. WTF? Oh, and if you want his new album "Chocolate Invasion"...go to his website, pay a one hundred dollar yearly fee, and then you can get his music. Is it any wonder that fans did not hear his music? One of his records once sold 14 million copies! The fan base was clearly there, yet he chose not to give them a fair chance at hearing his music.


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But the real problem was his Stalin-like paranoia over youtube. Go there now and read the comments on all the Prince videos. Nothing but love, love, love and tons of "I haven't seen this in twenty years! Oh, I missed this so much!" Prince kept the joy of his music from fans who loved his music. Heck, I'm a Prince fanatic and I haven't seen that "Batdance" video in decades. That should never have been the case. Never. He also kept that great music from young people who use youtube to discover music. Radio doesn't break artists anymore...and radio sure wasn't playing any Prince music the past 20 years. youtube is radio nowadays. Prince essentially took himself off the air! He hurt the people and he hurt himself. Prince's battle with youtube showed that he was extremely selfish and shortsighted.


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Prince was great, one of America's greatest artists in any artistic field...but he could have been so much more had he made his music available for the people to hear. Clearly he was beloved. Why didn't he see that? Why didn't he see that were weren't trying to rip him off...we just wanted to hear the music he made which is the music millions and millions and millions loved?



Becuase people could not look without buying his music means he was smart. Why do you think people are buying his music now they did not have access to it for for the on YouTube for the last 11 years.


Actually I have been buying more of his music lately largely because of first hearing samples of it on youtube.
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