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Bodyguard says there was no addiction http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/16/health/prince-bodyguard-speaks/index.html
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Very interesting and this guy doesn't have a big reason to lie now. I would say maybe something took P out, totally unrelated to the pills, but the emergency landing a few days before he passed away still doesn't make sense if it was definitely opoid OD related (which we don't know 100% yet). [Edited 5/16/16 13:03pm] | |
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With all the so-called friends or acquaintances leaking information to the tabloids about Prince's alleged drug addiction, I am so glad that he still has people in his corner speaking positively about him.
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He also said he was receiving B12 shots. That's in line with the "very low red blood count" that was leaked. Speculating here, but could he have had severe anemia (or chronic blood loss like and ulcer) and since JW's don't allow blood transfusions (the only definitive treatment) they tried B12 but it was not sufficient? | |
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He mentions B12 injections; B12 deficiency (a problem for vegans) is related to low red blood cell count, which was reported by KSTP. | |
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Speaking of bodyguards, has anyone seen or heard from Hucky, a/k/a ShellAnswerMan? I hope he's doing OK. | |
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But people have B12 shots all the time, as a kind of energy booster. Doesn't have to be to treat an underlying condition. | |
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he had B12 listed on his tour riders for years! "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" | |
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I remembered about Prince getting B shots and looked it up. There is a genetic deficiency that has nothing to do with being a vegan or vegetarian also. | |
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I don't know how long lived him being a vegan was as I can't find many references supporting a vegan lifestyle. For at least this year, he was just a vegetarian. But yes, coupled with the "dangerously low red blood cell count," makes me wonder if there was an underlying condition. | |
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norsknurse said: He also said he was receiving B12 shots. That's in line with the "very low red blood count" that was leaked. Speculating here, but could he have had severe anemia (or chronic blood loss like and ulcer) and since JW's don't allow blood transfusions (the only definitive treatment) they tried B12 but it was not sufficient? In the nineties there was a fanclub magazine, can't remeber the name, but it was like a newspaper. There I read an article that he got a B12 shot before each and every show. Maybe just for an energy boost, or maybe he suffered from B12 deficiency. So, Prince using B12 is not news. | |
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there are many things it could have been other than an actual over dose by over use. could have been a combination of factors. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" | |
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You can't be addicted to B12 anyway - it's a vitamin. . There's a thread on the org about it from 2002 - B12 shots before a show is a known entity for Prince and many entertainers. . Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ | |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: there are many things it could have been other than an actual over dose by over use. could have been a combination of factors. --- So much does not make sense. How can a person have any energy on Percocet. How can so many people have encounters with him a daily basis and notice he was on something? Does anyone think he was taking the Percocet to do with another illness that was causing pain? | |
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For me the plot thickens - if it wasn't painkillers then why did he go?!!! Whatever you heard about me is true
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Unfotunately, I feel like this is going to boil down to how healthy he was at the (which does not seem to be like he was very healthy at all). I know most people will probably not want to hear this but I genuinely believe he died from complications of flu complied with an already deteriorated immune system. The flu is no joke and if you push yourself as hard as he did then it can kill you as it has done to millions before. SOunds mundane but I think this is what happened. How beautiful do the words have 2 be
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norsknurse said: He also said he was receiving B12 shots. That's in line with the "very low red blood count" that was leaked. Speculating here, but could he have had severe anemia (or chronic blood loss like and ulcer) and since JW's don't allow blood transfusions (the only definitive treatment) they tried B12 but it was not sufficient? Is there anything else related to low red blood cell count, besides anemia? Love is God,
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underlying condition | |
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musicians regularly have b12 priot to concerts ,.,a llot of times it is in their RIDERS to have a physician back stage to adminsiter | |
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Right now, that's the billion dollar question. | |
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Wasn't he more of a pescetarian? There are reports that he ate fish. Anyway...B12....I took it for years. Just a boost of vitamin. | |
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strawberrybubblegum said: For me the plot thickens - if it wasn't painkillers then why did he go?!!! I read on here recently that in the 90's he took heart medication and drank wine and ended up in hospital maybe a condition of the heart? Baby, you're a star.
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Right now, that's the billion dollar question. Which will be answered in the autopsy report. Just wait. We don't need another speculation thread... | |
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This is some of the most uplifting news I've heard regarding his passing. So glad he spoke out and is working to set the record straight! Praying for Prince...among the angels The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.
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2020 said: This is some of the most uplifting news I've heard regarding his passing. So glad he spoke out and is working to set the record straight! Praying for Prince...among the angels Yes, it's positive news, but it just makes his death more confusing. Love is God,
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He's saying he wasn't a cokehead. Good. I didn't believe that for a second. "We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15 | |
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He doesn't have a reason to lie, but Prince could've been hiding his personal habits and over time figured out a way so none of his inner circle could be able to detect his issue. I tell you, it didn't surprise me when the rumors came out that prince was on various substances. Usually when a high profile scolds you for doing drugs in a particular forceful tone, its because that person is suffering as well. Its easier to preach from the pulpit rather than looking in the mirror. No, I don't think Prince was clean at all, I wouldnt be surprised if he was on speed to keep up with his productivity or something of that nature.
I've heard the painkiller rumors for years, it isn't adding up that he was living a clean lifestyle. I think people were fooling themselves in the past year or so that Prince was healthy. Whatever it was, (I doubt very much that someone that deep in religious cult philosophies) it wasn't just a "Vegan lifestyle" It doesn't take anything away from his genius or legacy, but it does point to a obvious point: Maybe certain drugs are needed to keep going at the pace these artists are living life at.
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I been taking B12 shoots since 1998 on and off 4 the weight program that I'm on. | |
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This is the bodyguard that allegedly carried him to the ambulance when the plance incident happened. So if we are to believe what this man is saying (and we have no reason no to, at this stage), then Prince did not OD on opiates, that was not why the plane made an emergency landing. Right? | |
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Guys... you'd need to be nuts at this stage to think painkillers weren't a huge thing in Prince's life. A danger to his health, and an addiction.
I don't think this guy is lying, but perhaps Prince didn't involve him in that part of his life. Was this interview taken at the JW memorial? Perhaps if he got connected through that, Prince kept his addicition and his religion separate.
If this guy knows all there is to know, then we have an unexplained plane landing to deal with. We have the addicition specialist who found Prince's body and who now has a lawyer which suddenly makes no sense, we have the DEA descending on Paisley Park like its Waco Texas for just a guy dying of the flu.
The ship has long since sailed on this having nothing to do with addiction. | |
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