Giovanni777 said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

I think it's odd to have an elevator installed in his house, considering if that's how he felt about it.

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Prince loved elevators. If you're using 'Let's Go Crazy' as the source, he says "Are we gonna let the de-elevator bring us down?!". I'm aware of the recent interview with someone who said Prince told him that elevators were the Devil... he meant in the song, the "de-elevator" was the devil.

That was LA Reid.

I understand what a metaphor is.

but I don't know why someone would think he shouldn't have one in his house or why somebody else has the strange idea that he would choose one to make some grand artistic departure?

People are strange...

I really hope we are down to one more week of this.

morningsong said:

I really hope we are down to one more week of this.

From your lips to God's ears.

It could be that he was on a limited script, to controller the amount he got at a time. So he would not use more than perscribed (common enough for pain meds).

So the 4 trips were for teo days worth at a time ?

headtripparade said:

ThirdStrike said:

Thinking about that myself. Easy, most logical answer is that the spike in use was too recent to be flagged. Again, seems like the working theory. But what about the possibility of him previously procuring meds illegally? Maybe that supply dried up? I don't know...thinking out loud here.

At the end of the day, none of this is going to matter to any of his true followers. We've always loved the music first and foremost. For me personally, I need to know what exactly happened. That would help give me closure. But I also understand and acknowledge that we may nevere fully, truly know. And I've been preparing myself for that possibility as well. But being a realist, I know it's a very distinct possibility that what's considered worst case scenerio may trun out to be the ultimate truth. As unfortunate as it may be...

Well said.

It could be that he was on a limited script, to controller the amount he got at a time. So he would not use more than perscribed (common enough for pain meds).

So the 4 trips were for teo days worth at a time ?

headtripparade said:

ThirdStrike said:

Possible theory for sure. Most doctors I've found, unless you are under the care of a pain management Dr. Only like to write out 10 to 15 day supplies St a time. Then you have to go back and see them to pickup a new scrip. That's what my neurosurgeon does. My pain mgt Dr is different. I see her every 3rd month with random drug screen, etc. I get those every 30 days tho. I only utilize my neurosurgeon for that for 4-6 weeks post op then I go back to pain Dr. They even get reports saying if someone gets meds other than from them. Saw a chick get caught doing that last month.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

What angers me is they appear to not want to stop until they find SOMETHING that Prince did wrong. Read article just now stating the investigation has NOT led them to find that prince was doctor shopping end that the scrips were legit from Dr. Oh bit now they wanna dig deeper to see if he had runners getting pills for him or if he had communication w Drs online that may have written scrips without a physical exam. It's like they just don't want to believe he wasn't doing anything wrong. Like how many times does it have to he said he wasn't an addict!? The man lived in crippling but invisible pain everyday and took pain meds to help for years. As they've found so far LEGALLY AND LEGITIMATELY!! His body was dependent on the drugs just like mine is on my pain meds. But I'm not an addict. It just means I've taken so long my body expects it. Try and take me off my pain meds after 10 back surgeries cold turkey and see what happens. Jesus this makes me angry! Bastards!!!! Ugh! [Edited 5/12/16 6:09am]

I know. And also at some point you have to let people decide if they want to take the drugs. It has become too demonised. Let people alone as long as they know what they are doing and have been warned of the dangers. No one else including the doctor is in their shoes and feeling their pain.

The one thing I do think is wrong is that the drug companies put little effort into finding nonaddictive and safe pain and sleep solutions. This is where the attention needs to be focused. They profit off of getting people addicted to their drugs and have little incentive to find better solutions.

[Edited 5/12/16 6:22am]

[Edited 5/12/16 6:24am]

beachy said:

I don't think it's rocket science really altogether:

1) no hip surgery/replacement -> leads to pain killers
2) not eating/drinking enough -> leads to problems with electrolytes
3) flu+electrolytes problem -> leads to unstable system, potentially life threatening in itself
4) unstable system + pain killers OD -> too much.

So i don't think there's need for any conspiracy theories.

Possibly, A friend is on Oxy, she recently got put on a weekly script because she would end up finishing her script a week early.

If reports that he was not overperscribed then this could be the reason for the four trips.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

feranti said:

It could be that he was on a limited script, to controller the amount he got at a time. So he would not use more than perscribed (common enough for pain meds).

So the 4 trips were for teo days worth at a time ?

[Edited 5/12/16 6:43am]

beatz01 said:

I don't think it's rocket science really altogether:

1) no hip surgery/replacement -> leads to pain killers
2) not eating/drinking enough -> leads to problems with electrolytes
3) flu+electrolytes problem -> leads to unstable system, potentially life threatening in itself
4) unstable system + pain killers OD -> too much.

So i don't think there's need for any conspiracy theories.

This

ThirdStrike said:

beatz01 said:

I don't think it's rocket science really altogether:

1) no hip surgery/replacement -> leads to pain killers
2) not eating/drinking enough -> leads to problems with electrolytes
3) flu+electrolytes problem -> leads to unstable system, potentially life threatening in itself
4) unstable system + pain killers OD -> too much.

So i don't think there's need for any conspiracy theories.

Makes sense.

beatz01 said:

I don't think it's rocket science really altogether:

1) no hip surgery/replacement -> leads to pain killers
2) not eating/drinking enough -> leads to problems with electrolytes
3) flu+electrolytes problem -> leads to unstable system, potentially life threatening in itself
4) unstable system + pain killers OD -> too much.

So i don't think there's need for any conspiracy theories.

Yes, all this plus: workaholic tendencies/lack of rest, lethal combinations indeed.

JenniferJoy said:

beatz01 said:

I don't think it's rocket science really altogether:

1) no hip surgery/replacement -> leads to pain killers
2) not eating/drinking enough -> leads to problems with electrolytes
3) flu+electrolytes problem -> leads to unstable system, potentially life threatening in itself
4) unstable system + pain killers OD -> too much.

So i don't think there's need for any conspiracy theories.

Yes, all this plus: workaholic tendencies/lack of rest, lethal combinations indeed.

That's the thing. If the toxicology report indicates that painkillers played any role, there will be no focus on factors like overwork, insomnia, etc.

I still remember the following exchange between Prince and the Electrifying Mojo in Detroit way back in 1985:

MOJO: What's a day like, in the life of Prince?

PRINCE: Work! I work a lot. I'm trying to get a lot of things done very quickly, so that I can stop working for a while. Everyone's afraid I'm gonna die. (laughs)

MOJO: You say, you are afraid?

PRINCE: No, I'm not afraid? Everyone else is afraid. They think I work too much. I'm not afraid of anything.

http://princetext.tripod.com/i_mojo85.html

I just found this, I don't know how reliable the source is. Sorry if it's been already posted.

http://www.ibtimes.com/was-prince-addicted-percocet-friends-say-he-used-opiate-keep-show-going-2368056

Mkilpatrick74 said:

rightbluecheek said:

Selena4641 said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

babynoz said:

spastic78 said:

rightbluecheek said:

I just found this, I don't know how reliable the source is. Sorry if it's been already posted.

http://www.ibtimes.com/was-prince-addicted-percocet-friends-say-he-used-opiate-keep-show-going-2368056

It's just a whole bunch of speculation from other sources who heard from one on else and then written up as "news".... It's been determined: -Prince did not use aliases to get multiple prescriptions for pain meds -He did not use random doctors all over the country -Prince did not feel well on April 7th so he went to a doctor he felt he could trust as the doctor had treated his friend Kirk in the past. -Prince returned to the doctor on April 20th who took some blood tests (standard procedure if one has been taking medication) -Prince avoided traditional medicine and preferred natural remedies -Prince kept telling people he was fine -Prince agreed to see a pain management/addiction specialist from CA who is world reknown and treats many stars/famous people -Prince lived in chronic pain -toxicology reports are not yet available to public so no one knows what was in Prince's system

I know, but this time the source has a name: Sky Dangcil. The other times the source had none, at least as far as I know...

rightbluecheek said:

spastic78 said:

rightbluecheek said: It's just a whole bunch of speculation from other sources who heard from one on else and then written up as "news".... It's been determined: -Prince did not use aliases to get multiple prescriptions for pain meds -He did not use random doctors all over the country -Prince did not feel well on April 7th so he went to a doctor he felt he could trust as the doctor had treated his friend Kirk in the past. -Prince returned to the doctor on April 20th who took some blood tests (standard procedure if one has been taking medication) -Prince avoided traditional medicine and preferred natural remedies -Prince kept telling people he was fine -Prince agreed to see a pain management/addiction specialist from CA who is world reknown and treats many stars/famous people -Prince lived in chronic pain -toxicology reports are not yet available to public so no one knows what was in Prince's system

I know, but this time the source has a name: Sky Dangcil. The other times the source had none, at least as far as I know...

The original US Weekly article is terribly written. Sky Dangcil and Kim Berry are nowhere quoted saying he was addicted to painkillers; that is the inference of the author. The only thing they say explicitly is that he took painkillers to help him perform.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/prince-how-his-painkiller-addiction-began-w206076

Mkilpatrick74 said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

Selena4641 said:

The ME (Medical Examiner) would have found a blood clot by the Physical examination. If that's the case, I don't know why the DEA would be involved? For all we know, the ME could have found a COD (Cause of Death) that's normal, like a Myocardial Infarction (Heart attack) and is just keeping quiet until he gets the Tox results back. But speaking from experience, I'm going to guess that this was not the case, because the ME and those involved keep looking at the Drug angle.

Yea, I know you are probably right. I'm just trying to be hopeful. Wishful thinking I guess.

But, doesn't the incident w/the emergency landing pretty much eliminate (logically) anything "natural" as a COD? I mean, I'd be more willing (again, logically) to believe a natural type death (or even a long standing illness) if he hadn't but a week before had to emergency land his airplane and be revived from a Naloxone shot (which is used primarily to help revive OD's). Then mix in the DEA having a part in this investigation, and again I think (logically) we can exclude some of these wild theories as the COD. As much as it sucks to say, most likely simple OD. Wait, (2) OD's actually within a week. It's just the 2nd one noone was around to administer that save shot...

If Prince passed away of a common, known illness or standard medical event, and he was found with a within-normal-range amount of prescription drugs, and all drugs found were prescribed to him, none of what we have seen happen would have happened.

Scalia recently died. How many pharmacy raids were there? Patton Oswalt's wife just died. Who saw helicopters over their house showing the DEA rushing in? Any search warrants sealed to investigate Afeni Shakur's activities?

Eileen said:

Eileen said: