Back in the day, "Diamonds and Pearls" was the last time my buddies and I saw a line out the door of a rekka sto for a Prince album. But the fall might have started after "Lovesexy;" "Lovesexy" was the last time I saw a line out the door — and around the block — the day of release. A shop in downtown San Francisco actually repeatedly ran out of "Parade" on at least two occasions the first week of release.

Buddy and I actually bought a CD each and the cassette so we could play "DAP" in the car as he dropped me off from work. Despite Cream, Willing and Able, Gett Off, Money Don't Matter 2 Night, we thought the album was his biggest misfire to date. We both realized something was amiss after the album started with Thunder (not a bad song, just not a great opener).

The 90s and 00s were brutal now that I look back at them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_(musician)#Discography

Commercially - the day he didn't follow up Purple Rain with Purple Rain 2

Artistically - the day he moved into Paisley Park and closed himself off from the world.

He's still released enough grade A material over the years to keep me interested though. I'd like to hear him really pushing himself again, and possibly this current piano tour is exactly that.

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to me it began with the release of Emancipation..... and what came after...


I loved the slave/ exodus/ come/ gold/ chaos years 1993-1995..... amazing music....

September 23, 2015, officially.

When P left WB back in 1995.

First reply nails it.

purplethunder3121 said:

appleseed said:

Back in the day, "Diamonds and Pearls" was the last time my buddies and I saw a line out the door of a rekka sto for a Prince album. But the fall might have started after "Lovesexy;" "Lovesexy" was the last time I saw a line out the door — and around the block — the day of release. A shop in downtown San Francisco actually repeatedly ran out of "Parade" on at least two occasions the first week of release.

Buddy and I actually bought a CD each and the cassette so we could play "DAP" in the car as he dropped me off from work. Despite Cream, Willing and Able, Gett Off, Money Don't Matter 2 Night, we thought the album was his biggest misfire to date. We both realized something was amiss after the album started with Thunder (not a bad song, just not a great opener).

The 90s and 00s were brutal now that I look back at them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_(musician)#Discography

Lovesexy was the second nail

Straight men were falling like a heavy hailstorm..no return.

I remember being on the school bus and teenagers were back of the bus

just dogging out Prince and the album cover. I just kept hearing them

saying they wouldn't be caught buying that x%$# due to him being naked

on the cover and we are not going to talk about that pose.

If teenagers were thinking that you can just imagine what grown men

were thinking.

I'm a female and went to purchase it, I placed the front cover down.I remember

flipping the cover inside out after purchasing it.

I too was embarrased. People weren't feeling him or relating to him..

you tend to run the other direction when you can't comprehend a subject.

It was a very good CD..I couldn't stop listening to Lovesexy..

and I enjoyed the Concert too. wow the memories

We all learn from our mistakes..I'm sure like all of us, Prince also says

"What was I thinking?!"

jaawwnn said:

derrick31 said:

jaawwnn said:

Commercially - the day he didn't follow up Purple Rain with Purple Rain 2

Artistically - the day he moved into Paisley Park and closed himself off from the world.

He's still released enough grade A material over the years to keep me interested though. I'd like to hear him really pushing himself again, and possibly this current piano tour is exactly that.

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YES👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

I wanted to hide under a rock when they kept annoucing that Graffiti Bridge was Purple Rain 2

jaawwnn said:

For me, Emancipation. Up 'til that point, I carried my purple kool-aid around in a thermos and convinced myself that everything (yes, even the Graffiti Bridge movie) was capital-g Great.

When he announced that he had a 3-hour album coming up that he was "born to make", I was beyond excited. And then I heard it. We Gets Up? Get Yo Groove On? Emale? You were born to make this shit? And that was the moment that I unscrewed the lid from that thermos and dumped that kool-aid down the sink.

Since then, my feelings about Prince can be summed up in his own words: "I love you, but I don't trust you anymore."

RosesRred said:

appleseed said:

Back in the day, "Diamonds and Pearls" was the last time my buddies and I saw a line out the door of a rekka sto for a Prince album. But the fall might have started after "Lovesexy;" "Lovesexy" was the last time I saw a line out the door — and around the block — the day of release. A shop in downtown San Francisco actually repeatedly ran out of "Parade" on at least two occasions the first week of release.

Buddy and I actually bought a CD each and the cassette so we could play "DAP" in the car as he dropped me off from work. Despite Cream, Willing and Able, Gett Off, Money Don't Matter 2 Night, we thought the album was his biggest misfire to date. We both realized something was amiss after the album started with Thunder (not a bad song, just not a great opener).

The 90s and 00s were brutal now that I look back at them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_(musician)#Discography

Lovesexy was the second nail

Straight men were falling like a heavy hailstorm..no return.

I remember being on the school bus and teenagers were back of the bus

just dogging out Prince and the album cover. I just kept hearing them

saying they wouldn't be caught buying that x%$# due to him being naked

on the cover and we are not going to talk about that pose.

If teenagers were thinking that you can just imagine what grown men

were thinking.

I'm a female and went to purchase it, I placed the front cover down.I remember

flipping the cover inside out after purchasing it.

I too was embarrased. People weren't feeling him or relating to him..

you tend to run the other direction when you can't comprehend a subject.

It was a very good CD..I couldn't stop listening to Lovesexy..

and I enjoyed the Concert too. wow the memories

We all learn from our mistakes..I'm sure like all of us, Prince also says

"What was I thinking?!"

As a straight man(teenager in 88) , i went in the record store and it was NP to me to buy this record. Maybe the other straight men had no balls , the irony And do people really not buy certain albums because of the covers Even when they are great, how dumb.

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jaawwnn said:

Commercially - the day he didn't follow up Purple Rain with Purple Rain 2

Artistically - the day he moved into Paisley Park and closed himself off from the world.

He's still released enough grade A material over the years to keep me interested though. I'd like to hear him really pushing himself again, and possibly this current piano tour is exactly that.

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This. Although my biggest gripe when people mention he didn't make Purple Rain 2 is that I don't think he necessarily needed to make "Purple Rain 2" to have close to that level of commericial success. Also the initially marketing of ATWIAD didn't help much either.

nyse said:

jaawwnn said:

Artistically - the day he moved into Paisley Park and closed himself off from the world.

Hey wait.. but didn't prince record SOTT at Paisley park????? And that is arguably the best prince album in history... top 5 for sure

RosesRred said:

derrick31 said:

jaawwnn said: YES👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

I wanted to hide under a rock when they kept annoucing that Graffiti Bridge was Purple Rain 2

I almost threw up in m mouth. I was so embarrassed with Graffiti Bridge

Guitarhero said:

As a straight man(teenager in 88) , i went in the record store and it was NP to me to buy this record. Maybe the other straight men had no balls , the irony And do people really not buy certain albums because of the covers Even when they are great, how dumb.

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Yes, sometimes the cover speaks volumes. Some people judge what the content is going to be about by just looking at the cover and the title. Prime example if you didn't know who the following groups were...

.and you have to think about parents who were purchasing music for their children.

Imagine as a parent you see a naked man and then the first two words are LOVESEX

...what would you think?? Prince was already known for having a 'Dirty Mind' so..

would you think??

You kind of think of the mental state of the artist who are promoting this

http://boogiewoogiebrody....sexy-1988/

unneccesary negative attention for a decent album

http://articles.philly.co...isley-park

basically, it was a turn off for many...i didn't say for all

Nowadays, they wouldn't think anything of it because morals are about gone.

IMO his winning streak ended with Lovesexy.

the fall begins with poor followup Batman.

he has released great albums since then (Come)

but the MAGIC ended with Lovesexy and the 88-89 tour.

nyse said:

I dont think there has been a fall at all yes some eras been hit or miss and he had some questionable releases. but the guy always seems to redeem himself musically..

RosesRred said:

Guitarhero said:

As a straight man(teenager in 88) , i went in the record store and it was NP to me to buy this record. Maybe the other straight men had no balls , the irony And do people really not buy certain albums because of the covers Even when they are great, how dumb.

[Edited 2/11/16 9:04am]

Yes, sometimes the cover speaks volumes. Some people judge what the content is going to be about by just looking at the cover and the title. Prime example if you didn't know who the following groups were...

.and you have to think about parents who were purchasing music for their children.

Imagine as a parent you see a naked man and then the first two words are LOVESEX

...what would you think?? Prince was already known for having a 'Dirty Mind' so..

would you think??

You kind of think of the mental state of the artist who are promoting this

http://boogiewoogiebrody....sexy-1988/

unneccesary negative attention for a decent album

http://articles.philly.co...isley-park

basically, it was a turn off for many...i didn't say for all

Nowadays, they wouldn't think anything of it because morals are about gone.

It's not morals it's damn bigotry.

When Morris Day left. That's when the dam cracked. The patchwork fuckery begins at that point. Appollonia filled Vanity's camisole. Nobody could fill Morris's Stacey Adams. Thus PR era is dead, because it was as much about Morris, maybe even more in some areas, than it was Prince.

When religion defined who he was!

Rave was the first time I was like "What the Fuck is this Shit?" Since then it has been hit or miss for me, mostly miss...sadly. But I had a good ten or more years with the dude where he could do no wrong. Not too many artists you can say that about.

..when he started to take into account what "fans" were saying...

When he began "experimenting" with Hip Hop.

luvsexy4all said:

..when he started to take into account what "fans" were saying...

That might be 1985/86

OldFriends4Sale said: