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City Lights Remastered And Extended Volume 7: The Lovesexy World Tour 1988/1989 [From the banner at the top of the Prince forum: - luv4u] NO SOLICITING FOR BOOTLEGS! Discussion is fine, so long as the bootleg is not being promoted e.g. pre-release; requests/offers to share or copy, and links to download or bootleg sites are not. Posting Prince and associated artist videos from sites such as YouTube is also not allowed. Posts of this nature will be deleted and repeat offenders will be first warned, and then banned. Troll threads, fake tracklists, and attention seeking rumor threads will be also be swiftly dealt with. These rules are strictly enforced! *************************** Let's discuss 
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Anybody know what song is playing under the "Lovesexy Commercial"? Sounds very Batman-ish! |
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I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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The one thing I REALLY wanted was the entire Happy Birthday to Cat in soundboard, but it's just the snip from the video. Bummer.... "I like to watch." | |
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This new set seems to have the same Camden Palace tracks as "Driving To Midnight Mess".
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The tracklist above is unreadable. Bold and spaces are de rigueur. Anything new on this set anyway? A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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Soundboard versions of the Paris and Italy 88 concerts
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Cool, thx for the link and clarification A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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The track listing is a baffling disgrace, it could give you a sore head to work it all out, nothing new with Sab there though. I also thought that they might not have the audacity to plunder their own past releases, but lo and behold Sab did not disappoint in that department either. The only things worthwhile on this set are the (woefully incomplete) Paris and Milan soundboards. The rest is a hodge podge mess. The sound is decent enough on the soundboards, but not a patch on previous Lovesexy soundboard releases from Sab. All in all, nice to have, but not that great. | |
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Are ther any full shows from London about? | |
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Understatement! Busy doin' something close to nothing | |
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I haven't had time to put this into iTunes yet. Sounds like I'm not missing much. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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Once again, Prince should release some good live material. A bunch of us fans would pay for official versions of these shows. Want money, Prince? There you go! "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. |
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He hates to "look back".He would rather focus on stuff like Hit and Run | |
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I can answers this for you. There exists 2 Lovesexy outtakes known as "Commercial" #1 and #2. Thats "Commercial" #2. #1 is way more tranquil musically and basically Prince whispers "Lovesexy" and song titles from the album along with a few other things. I wrote about it a few years ago and you could probably find my thread on that and other uncirculatiting tracks. Whats on that set is taken from #2. They are both around 3:00 minutes long. I never knew that any of these tracks were ever used. I guess it's possible that #1 might've been used becuause I was never aware #2 was even used. I still consider the full length versions outtakes though. PrinceVault kinda has a sketchy write up for a track called "Commercial" originally dating from 1981 and what they believe to be a rerecord from 1988. Thats not really the case. I have no idea what the 1981 version is, but the 2 versions of "Commercial" from 1988 were soley intended to promote the project. Hope that helps. Big Chick "Security Ensuring Thee" | |
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Anna Stesia/I Wish U Heaven-God Is Alive/Positivity from the Paris show are fantastic versions with a stunning quality ! "You can skate around the issue if you like,
But who's gonna get you high in the middle of the night?" |
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I really do wish you'd write more about this kind of stuff. That thread you're refering to contained some of the most valued information I've recieved on this forum. Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. |
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So does anyone know whether the incomplete Paris and Milan soundboards here mean that the sources themselves are incomplete, or rather that Sabotage cut them down to fit on this collection? Wasn't there supposed to be a release of the Paris concert on its own, I wonder what happened to that. Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
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I would assume that is all they have hence the strange tracklisting format and splitting both shows over 4 discs.
Anything soundboard from the Lovesexy era is fine by me but it is a shame there are holes however what we do have is is very good - there sre some epic performances here including some very funky I Wish U Heaven/God is Alive versions.
Also some of the audience recording 'rarities' actually sound very good and have peaked my interest in tracking down the full shows from these 'samples' | |
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Here are a few answers to and comments on previous statements made about CL-R7 in this thread: .
The exclusive soundboard recordings on SAB’s CL-R7 came from two analog cassettes. One of these was torn and had been fixed by some fool with everyday Scotch tape, causing playback problems not just around that spot, but during several tracks. This obviously was the VERY first thing that the label had to solve.
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Both tapes just covered major parts of the Paris and Milan shows, so what’s on CL-R7 is ALL that SAB ever received. Their source claimed that all other parts/tapes were lost. Personally, I find it rather funny/naive how some folks like "RaspBerryGirlFriend" (reply #22) seem to imagine Prince’s longest-established bootleg label willingly editing two unknown complete soundboard shows for the sake of whatever. Hilarious.
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In fact, however, a LOT of studio work had to be applied to turn two worn out analog cassettes with playback issues, hundreds (!) of analog mini drop-outs and even lots of feedback into the rather flawless result you’re hearing on CL-R7 now.
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Those two soundboard shows have been spread over 4 discs here for a reason. The intention was to include as many rare & relevant songs on this set as possible, thereby filling all 6 discs to the max. . Besides, there’s a "chronology" behind this 7th volume’s concept. That goes for the evolving from disc 1 to disc 6 as a whole just like it does among the first two discs: The rehearsal of "Rebirth Of The Flesh" took place before the Grammy Awards, which preceded the "Funk City" rehearsal … which in turn preceded the Lovesexy tour premiere in Paris.
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If you look at the "Funk City" rehearsal on disc 1 closely, then you will note immediately that it covers the first half of a typical Lovesexy set … which is exactly what was missing from the Paris premiere soundboard cassette. So this explains why the first five Paris tracks appear at the END of disc 1.
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If you’re listening a little closer, then you’ll find that "Adore" and "Sister" (which were both missing on SAB’s original analog master) were taken from an "MTV News Report" that featured edits of those two songs from exactly this particular tour opening gig in Paris. So these tewo fitted in perfectly.
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Mind you, ever-present talk-before-you-think critics, the track order on discs 1 to 4 is a lot less arbitrary than what you claim it to be.
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However, the tour-finishing Japanese leg had to appear on disc 4 already (rather than on disc 6) – simply because there were much less rarities from Japan than there were from Europe or the US … which both took up a whole disc, respectively.
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@BoraBora (reply #5): No parts of Dortmund 1988 are included here. (Or maybe you just counted the Lovesexy releases you already have, not saying parts of ALL those were used in CL-R7?) If you compare that old "Funk City" release as well as the beginning and end of "Rebirth Of The Flesh" to the recording included here, then you will find that the original recordings have carefully been denoised and that certain low-volume spoken elements are audible a lot better now. The unintelligible passage where Prince swears in "Rebirth Of The Flesh" has been turned back around to how it was originally recorded. (What better or more acceptable does it make a word like "fuck" to switch it around in an original rehearsal recording?)
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Besides there actually WERE quite a few set list changes and/or alternative/improvised versions in certain shows. The numerous takes on "Blues In C" and additional blues numbers ("Do It 2 U Slow") come to mind. Same goes for some one-off tracks in the piano sets ("Rock ’n’ Roll Instrumental"; "Unchain My Heart"; "If U Let Me Undress U" etc.). However, the inclusion of a rare or even an exclusive track would hardly justify the (re-)release of a full show. And that wasn’t the point here either.
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Quite obviously CL-R7 attempts to put together an anthology of nearly ALL the one-off or other rarities (cover versions AND guest appearances by other artists) that appeared in Prince’s Lovesexy sets along the whole world tour. That includes rarely featured appearances by/with George Clinton, Patti LaBelle, The Minnesota Black Choir, Tony!Toni!Toné! etc. etc.). I doubt that any other release has ever provided all of these highlights in such a "compressed" form with SUCH a lot of attention paid to mastering details. The usual suspects on this site will try to tell you otherwise, but that should not distract from the truth.
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@sulls (reply #6): If a release aims at collecting all the rare moments from a world tour, then even the brief "Happy Birthday To You" to Cat (from Camden Palace) and to Mr. Seijiro Udo (from Japan) have to be included. Two recordings of the Camden gig exist to this day – the audience recording, which is rather muffled, and the soundboard track – which is incomplete. What you have here is the soundboard part of "Happy Birthday 2 U" plus the spoken intro by Prince (which is audience-sourced). Why its inclusion in an anthology that features a fantastic overview of a whole era should be a "bummer" to anyone is beyond me.
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@BoraBora (reply #7): The sound quality of the soundboard tracks from Camden is better here than it was on "Driving To Midnight Mess". ALL songs on CL-R7 have been cleaned up before they were added.
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@TheDigitalGardener (reply #11): Many of the tracks included here were much shorter than the usual 3:30 min pop song. So this lead to an average 28 tracks per disc here. Is that a reason to complain nowadays? The sheer amount of material and sources alone might look a little crammed on a single back inlay.
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However, each track on each disc has the "CD-Text" feature, including song title, concert location, date etc., so to avoid a "headache", just skip reading the inlay and look at the display of your player. The material stems from more than 30 sources. Many of those come from analog audio tapes, from various digital files, from videos etc. Why should SAB skip a rare track just because they once released it decades ago in the context of a full show? It’s about 2 NEW LOVESEXY SOUNDBOARD SHOWS and about ALL THE RARE STUFF from the whole freakin’ LOVESEXY WORLD TOUR here! Is that too hard to accept?
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ALL of these tracks were mastered one by one to eliminate any weaknesses (hiss, drop-outs, even screams, whistles, feedback etc.) that may have been and often actually WERE annoying in the original source material. And there were ENDLESS flaws especially in the tour highlights used on discs 5 and 6 – which have been taken care of for the first time here.
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Sounds were now assimilated, orders of tracks were arranged in a way that would appear natural or that would provide the best possible "flow", given the amount of different sources and sounds. If the track listing looks like a "disgrace" to you, then how about finding a free copy of this release somewhere? You might have a little less to complain once you’ve actually HEARD the item you’re commenting on so loudly here. I can tell you that this release sounds much better than what you seem to IMAGINE from simply being unable to appreciate a "tour anthology" approach, coming from a label, rather than a "fan" outlet. A label that not just "produces" digital files ONLY, but "the real deal" instead.
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That said, if you’re so keen on reading, rather than listening, why not mention the 20-page booklet with over 100 pictures from that era and with about all key information you could ask for while you’re listening to 8 hours of live music from Prince’s biggest world tour to date?
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@mrmaxwell (reply #23): Please be aware of the fact that the so-called "samples" (meaning individual songs) on discs 5 and 6 have undergone dozens of hours of studio time, so in many cases you will be surprised how flawed the original sources actually were. "Blues In C" from Rotterdam 1988 with Candy Dulfer comes to mind, for example. This song was so plagued with screams and whistles that SAB not only improved the sound overall (like they did on ALL songs on this set), but they actually retouched those noises from the recording. Each and every loud scream or whistle was removed or at least reduced drastically wherever the latest software tools allowed interventions of this kind. And that had to be done on MANY of the audience-sourced titles on discs 5 and 6.
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While this procedure won’t turn an audience source into a soundboard, it most certainly DOES improve the the enjoyment of rarities that were mostly recorded with amateur equipment some 27 years ago.
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Now back to the usual badly-informed and lame bashing of traditional boot releases that we’ve all come to expect here.
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Thanks, BigChick for bringing the knowledge!! 
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Thanks for the breakdowns & info, LOGIC. Don't let complaints or opinions get you twisted, though. The org can be brutal on official releases so it can be expected there will be something to complain about with a bootleg compilation. Some will like it, some won't. It is what it is... Not dead, not in prison, still funkin'... |
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@LOGIC, it's still a mess. | |
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