With the somewhat surprise physical release of HitnRun in stores, on iTunes, Amazon, etc... Post all the HitnRun chart figures here.

[Edited 9/17/15 20:12pm]

[Edited 9/20/15 13:52pm]

#13 on USA Itunes Top Albums list up from #25 last night.

finally made the itunes store welcome page

Also #2 on the iTunes R&B chart

As of right now on the iTunes chart:

Overall: #14

R&B/Soul: #2

AMAZON Charts:

Overall: #12

R&B: #2

Amazon Germany:

No#1 R&B/Soul

No#40 Overall

Itunes Germany:

No#48

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #9 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

• #2 in Music > R&B
• #9 in Music > Pop

Doing pretty well on Amazon so far.

This morning in UK it is #23 on Amazon and #71 on iTunes.

Given that it is only out for a few days in the sales week rather than the full 7 days I expect a very low position when the charts are released tomorrow.

Amazon.com #1 in R&B!

#5 in US on iTunes

#19 worldwide

[Edited 9/17/15 11:02am]

So according to Hits Daily Double 91% of the sales have been calcualted so far and the first week sales of HitnRun at this point are:

#36 HitnRun Prince: 4,481

this makes it his lowest selling debut of all time.

feeluupp said:

So according to Hits Daily Double 91% of the sales have been calcualted so far and the first week sales of HitnRun at this point are:

#36 HitnRun Prince: 4,481

this makes it his lowest selling debut of all time.

... I'm really worried for the future now in terms of physical distribution if he indeed abandoned his contract with WB... Will he just be a streaming act now on TIDAL, every now and then will release a physical album...

You can see in terms of album sales it's basically the end now, his albums can't even break the 100,000 mark anymore, and what hurts is you're only able to stream a quarter of Prince's caalouge on TIDAL vs the other artists who are on most streaming platforms.

feeluupp said:

feeluupp said:

So according to Hits Daily Double 91% of the sales have been calcualted so far and the first week sales of HitnRun at this point are:

#36 HitnRun Prince: 4,481

this makes it his lowest selling debut of all time.

... I'm really worried for the future now in terms of physical distribution if he indeed abandoned his contract with WB... Will he just be a streaming act now on TIDAL, every now and then will release a physical album...

You can see in terms of album sales it's basically the end now, his albums can't even break the 100,000 mark anymore, and what hurts is you're only able to stream a quarter of Prince's caalouge on TIDAL vs the other artists who are on most streaming platforms.

I don't think he would ever go away from physical releaes. Now I don't mean that everything he will release in the future will be avaible in physical format, I think they will just be limited. I predict it to become increasingly harder to make money from streaming, MP3s etc so that may leave CDs, LPS or what ever left to gain any real profit from making an album. Just my thoughts.

Phillipg said:

feeluupp said:

... I'm really worried for the future now in terms of physical distribution if he indeed abandoned his contract with WB... Will he just be a streaming act now on TIDAL, every now and then will release a physical album...

You can see in terms of album sales it's basically the end now, his albums can't even break the 100,000 mark anymore, and what hurts is you're only able to stream a quarter of Prince's caalouge on TIDAL vs the other artists who are on most streaming platforms.

I don't think he would ever go away from physical releaes. Now I don't mean that everything he will release in the future will be avaible in physical format, I think they will just be limited. I predict it to become increasingly harder to make money from streaming, MP3s etc so that may leave CDs, LPS or what ever left to gain any real profit from making an album. Just my thoughts.

I remember reading a comment a few days ago saying Prince's mass apeal now is not even that of an independent artist as in terms of selling albums now a days...

He's done so much damage in this "DIGITAL AGE"... with him removing his music from YouTube, concert footage, no social media prescence except a Twitter just recently reactivated back in May... That he has literally become obsolete with the new generation... It's really scary, even artists whome are more obsolete than Prince at least have more exposure on the internet and their music, videos, concert footages easily accessable to a new fan...

I know plenty of people around here will howl in protest, but I'm all for Prince stopping retail releases (except maybe downloads sold on the TIDAL site) and just being a streaming act on TIDAL. That way all this chart watching and sales counting can end and it can be all about the music again. The normal economic complaints against streaming for artists doesn't apply to Prince because he's a rights holder, not just an artist depending on meager streaming royalties.

We know from the recent interview with Josh that Jay-Z paid Prince a substantial up-front sum to license his music for streaming, a licensing fee that would normally only go to a record label.

feeluupp said:

So according to Hits Daily Double 91% of the sales have been calcualted so far and the first week sales of HitnRun at this point are:

#36 HitnRun Prince: 4,481

this makes it his lowest selling debut of all time.

This makes sense as it has only been sold in stores officially since Monday. Physical CD sales are not a metric to follow anymore. Plectrum was also an all time low correct? I want to know how many people subscribed to Tidal, or purchased it via download at Tidal, how many of the new subscribers are staying with Tidal for his catalog. Those would be the metrics to determine if Prince albums generate real viable interest like his concerts do. Not a metric of 4 days worth of CD sales. Prince's chart positions on iTunes shows the album is selling but it's the Tidal numbers that will determine if this was a commercial success or not. Here's hoping Tidal releases those figures in a month or two.

redflag said:

I know plenty of people around here will howl in protest, but I'm all for Prince stopping retail releases (except maybe downloads sold on the TIDAL site) and just being a streaming act on TIDAL.

Hw would lose alot of sales if he did that.Many of us old schoolers (like myself) aren't really into "streaming" music.We want the physical CD in our hands.

feeluupp said:

So according to Hits Daily Double 91% of the sales have been calcualted so far and the first week sales of HitnRun at this point are:

#36 HitnRun Prince: 4,481

this makes it his lowest selling debut of all time.

Wow! I knew this was a low-profile release,but 4,481 is an extremely low figure for an artist of Prince's stature

feeluupp said:

He's done so much damage in this "DIGITAL AGE"... with him removing his music from YouTube, concert footage, no social media prescence except a Twitter just recently reactivated back in May... That he has literally become obsolete with the new generation... It's really scary, even artists whome are more obsolete than Prince at least have more exposure on the internet and their music, videos, concert footages easily accessable to a new fan...

Exactly. Visibility of Prince in the mainstream among folks who buy music on an on-going basis has come and gone with Prince playing cat and mouse on the web, removing his music from countless web portals and his ambivalent relationship with fans has decreased his equity with the buying public. Even with the promotion of Princ's new album, he has done many print interviews but he has not given any performances on television or the web to get the word out about the album and himself. Prince still thinks his name will sell the music but every major artist whenever they release an album do a full rollout with interactive web presence, media blitzes the whole nine.

SoulAlive said:

bashraka said:

feeluupp said:

He's done so much damage in this "DIGITAL AGE"... with him removing his music from YouTube, concert footage, no social media prescence except a Twitter just recently reactivated back in May... That he has literally become obsolete with the new generation... It's really scary, even artists whome are more obsolete than Prince at least have more exposure on the internet and their music, videos, concert footages easily accessable to a new fan...

Exactly. Visibility of Prince in the mainstream among folks who buy music on an on-going basis has come and gone with Prince playing cat and mouse on the web, removing his music from countless web portals and his ambivalent relationship with fans has decreased his equity with the buying public. Even with the promotion of Princ's new album, he has done many print interviews but he has not given any performances on television or the web to get the word out about the album and himself. Prince still thinks his name will sell the music but every major artist whenever they release an album do a full rollout with interactive web presence, media blitzes the whole nine.

Print interviews are fine but it's 2015 and we know how most artists promote... Yet Prince is so against doing what could bring him more exposure in today's day and age...

TwiliteKid said:

SoulAlive said:

Wow! I knew this was a low-profile release,but 4,481 is an extremely low figure for an artist of Prince's stature

It's really not all that surprising though, given that most of the press and reviews have focused on this being a Tidal-only release. It's entirely likely that most casual fans don't even release there is a CD available at this point. Given all that hype, I expect the final position (once streams are included) will be a fair bit higher. Maybe not top 10, closer than it is now. On another note: those of you talking about being "scared" or "worried" need to get a fucking grip. Prince will be fine.

OFC Prince will be fine... The point is the visibility and accessability of the new generation that want to discover his music, concerts, footage, and genius. He keeps making it more hard for people to discover him.

Who's Prince? Never heard of him... Everytime I try to introduce people to Prince and his music.

AlexDeFFM said:

Amazon Germany:

No#1 R&B/Soul

No#40 Overall

Itunes Germany:

No#48

#40? When? I check regularly, and the highest rank was #163.

ludwig said:

AlexDeFFM said:

Amazon Germany:

No#1 R&B/Soul

No#40 Overall

Itunes Germany:

No#48

#40? When? I check regularly, and the highest rank was #163.

I have looked on tuesday.

But i think i have made a mistake.

It could be No#40 on Pop not overall.

Today:

• Amazon Bestseller-Rang: Nr. 163 in Musik (Siehe Top 100 in Musik)
  • Nr. 2 in Musik > R&B & Soul
  • Nr. 76 in Musik > Pop

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feeluupp said:

So according to Hits Daily Double 91% of the sales have been calcualted so far and the first week sales of HitnRun at this point are:

#36 HitnRun Prince: 4,481

this makes it his lowest selling debut of all time.

I can only speak for Germany. I think the Problem is that the physical release was on monday, but it was first available in stores on tuesday/wednesday. I got my copy yesterday from an online retailer. So i think it will not chart high because of the short time.

And there was no promotion. That was/is the BIG Problem.

Yesterday i was in a big german electronic store (Saturn) and my impression was that it sell pretty well. But thats only an impression.

He could boost sales by doing a TV performance....or dropping a single and video.

but something tells me that he has already moved on from this album

SoulAlive said:

He could boost sales by doing a TV performance....or dropping a single and video.

but something tells me that he has already moved on from this album

He knows what he needs to do for proper commercial success... He's done the exact opposite since ATWIAD...

The only two times he did it right was with Diamonds & Pearls and Musicology, and the numbers paid off, even if the "music" didn't.

feeluupp said:

So according to Hits Daily Double 91% of the sales have been calcualted so far and the first week sales of HitnRun at this point are:

#36 HitnRun Prince: 4,481

this makes it his lowest selling debut of all time.

that's a bit misleading since the album wasn't out the full week. It's been higher than #36 all week on all of the places that have an up to date best sellers list. I also think some stores were confused about the release date. I was at Best Buy and went to look for it Wednesday. They had a section for new releases, they were all empty. I suspect they were getting ready for the normal release day of Frida, at least at that store.