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Reply #180 posted 08/24/15 7:38pm

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I happen to love JJ's cover.

it's like a guilty pleasure.

the synths a bit high in the mix

but she smooths it out and

uses space in the song which makes it beautiful.

Yes, I really like her version too

love the guitar work

and there is something about someone from his early camp doing a cover of one of his earlier albums

I love her voice on this one

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Reply #181 posted 08/24/15 7:43pm

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Old Friends with yet another one!!! You kill it every time brotha!! THANK U biggrin

Thank U my purple brother

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Reply #182 posted 08/25/15 7:05am

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Stop the press. This is Skipper's most ridiculous outfit ever.
Where in hell did he get this ugly sugar-phallic T-Shirt?

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
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Reply #183 posted 08/25/15 7:13am

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It does seem specific to pictures taken with fans, though.
Makes you wonder.

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No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #184 posted 08/25/15 7:21am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Now we know why Gayle left the band. She was hired as a musician and ended up having to play part time porn star. I don't think Prince ever made any of his future female band members go that far.

How 'bout Wendy simulating fellatio?

But this is dirtier, I'll give you that.
The seventies bleeding colors don't help.
The convey a vintage porn movie tone right away.

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No Child's a failure
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Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
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Reply #185 posted 08/25/15 7:23am

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I'm stunned by the fact that the Cloud Guitar is really
a replica of a presumably cheap bass played by André.

[Edited 8/25/15 7:23am]

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Reply #186 posted 08/25/15 10:04am

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"The Rebels" Project

Studio Outtakes

1. You

2. Too Long

3. Loving You

4. Thrill You Or Kill You

5. Disco Away

6. Instrumental

7. Instrumental

8. If I Love You Tonight

9. Turn Me On

10. Baby Baby Baby

11. Nadeara

12. K-Funk Interview

Before Prince formed The Time, he considered using his backing band as a side-project called The Rebels. The 1979 project was a group effort, with songs being written and sung by the various members. Andre Cymone and Dez Dickerson each contributed material and a few numbers were sung by Gayle Chapman. This record has hard rock toghether with disco and 70's funk on it. Also some good slow number as "If I Love U Tonight", later to Mica Paris, and "U", later to Paula Abdul. As the track showed up in the track list there is some bonus material apart from the original album content.

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Reply #187 posted 08/25/15 10:05am

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After a dazzling audition, vital rock stimuli arrived in the form of ax-man, Dez Dickerson.

This motley crew of musicians began rehearsals that November, feeling each other out and vibing. Writing in his autobiography, Dickerson remembers, “there was this explosive spark when we jammed – something about our collective styles and influences.” But these sessions had not yet yielded a cohesive or polished set by the time of their stage debut at the Capri Theatre in Minneapolis in January ’79. A mix of nerves and equipment failure meant that onlooking Warner executives were left feeling the band needed more time and they put the breaks on a planned tour. Suddenly left with a lot of free time, the band members began developing more material, but Prince withdrew to Los Angeles to record his sophomore album, ‘Prince’, which saw a return to his more controllable one-man-band approach. Aware of the disgruntlement this caused amongst his band members, and by way of appeasement, Prince announced his plan to record a side project called The Rebels, an album that would bring everyone’s ideas to the fore.

The concept was that all the band members, including Prince, would remain anonymous (and be represented as silhouettes on the cover) and Prince hoped that The Rebels project would allow him to explore punk rock and new wave without confusing his R&B “Prince” persona. The 12-day recording sessions began on July 10th in Boulder, Colorado and Prince’s management intended to bankroll the project and have Warner reimburse them upon delivery of the tapes. Prince wrote four songs for the album, whilst Cymone contributed two and Dickerson three. Refusing to rely on black music clichés, the material ranged from bluesy Stone-esque romps (‘Hard To Get’ and ‘You’), nasty slices of Minneapolis funk (‘Thrill You Or Kill You’) to Moroder-infused machine rock (‘Disco Away’). The Rebels made a conscious decision to destroy preconceptions of how black artists should sound, but whilst Prince, Cymone and Dickerson were excited about the project, the other members weren’t so enthusiastic and questioned its validity. By the end, Dickerson had also begun to have doubts, asking, “what are we doing? Where are we going with this?” Eventually, the album and tapes were never presented to Warner; it seemed that a collective band effort had again faltered.

After the summer, the band performed another showcase for the label executives in Los Angeles and this time the band was focused and ready. They revamped the electro boogie hits from Prince’s self-titled second album with crunching lead guitars; “after the first song, I could see that we had them. They had bought into Prince and his band big time and left the place absolutely buzzing,” recalls Dickerson. Warner’s faith in the band was renewed and it inspired them to push the ‘Prince’ album hard. Whilst in LA, Prince and the band shot two videos, including ‘I Wanna Be Your Lover’, and an effort was made to present them as more of a group rather than a Prince solo project.

By the time of their promotional tour, the band had also stepped things up with regards to their image, with Prince, Cymone and Dickerson wearing brightly coloured spandex and see-through plastic pants, knee-high boots and suspenders. But critics were baffled by the band’s mix of funk, rock and new wave, and their manager insisted that Prince wear underwear underneath the tight spandex. Prince replied by wearing only bikini briefs for the remainder of the tour! Prince later reflected that “we all felt that we wanted to dress this way, talk this way, and play this way. When we first started out it was like shock treatment,” and for the band, breaking down barriers was key.

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Reply #188 posted 08/25/15 10:06am

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Performed on tour months before DIRTY MIND was even completed, HEAD actually drove keyboardist Gayle Chapman out of the band and served as the initiation for replacement Lisa Coleman. Prince figured that if Lisa, already under scrutiny as the lone female in the group, could sing these lyrics in front of thousands of people, she’d be able to handle anything. She passed the test with flying colors, but unfortunately, not everyone found HEAD as easy to digest as Coleman did.

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Reply #189 posted 08/25/15 10:14am

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Home recordings, 1978 – 1979
Baby, Baby, Baby (2:44)
Nadeara (1:50)
K-FUNK Interview (featuring Nadeara) (7:47)
Miss You (1:53)
Donna (4:06)
Down A Long Lonely Road (1:18)
Do It Again
Gypsy
I Am You (late ’78)
I Met A Virgin Queen
I’m Leaving LA
Love Affair
Love Of Mine
Rock Me, Lover #2
Rocking Chair
We Would Like To See You Again
Wouldn’t You Love To Love Me? #3 (5:01)
Instrumental 1 (2:14) – guitars, soft drum machine
Instrumental 2 (2:21) – guitar, fast drum machine
Instrumental 3 (0:52) – percussion
Instrumental 4 (1:11) – acoustic guitar
Instrumental 5 (1:30) – funky acoustic & bass guitars
Instrumental 6 (0:37) – funky bass guitar

Pepé Willie, Music Farm Studios, New York, 17 February 1979
I Feel For You #1
If You Feel Like Dancin’ (7:08)* (Pepé Willie) – guitar & keyboards
One Man Jam (6:15)* (Pepé Willie) – everything but bass: André Cymone & synth: Pepé Willie
Thrill You Or Kill You #1 (André Cymone)
With You #1

Prince, Alpha Studio, Los Angeles, late April – 13 June 1979
I Wanna Be Your Lover (5:47)*
Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad? (3:49)*
Sexy Dancer #1 – with sound engineer
Sexy Dancer #2 (Long Version) (8:54)* - edit of #1
When We’re Dancing Close And Slow (5:18)*
With You #2 (3:59)*
Bambi (4:22)*
Still Waiting (4:24)*
I Feel For You #2
It’s Gonna Be Lonely (5:30)*
Oh, Baby #1

Prince, Hollywood Sound Records, Los Angeles, June 1979
Darling Marie #2
Sexy Dancer #3 (4:18)* - edit of #2
I Feel For You #3 (3:24)* - edit of #2

The Rebels, Mountain Ears Sound Studios, Boulder, Colorado, 10 – 21 July 1979
You #1 (2:53) – lead vocal: Gayle Chapman
Too Long (4:09) (Dez Dickerson) – lead vocal: Dez Dickerson
Hard To Get #1 (3:24) – lead vocal: André Cymone, backing vocal: Prince
Thrill You Or Kill You #2 (6:06) (André Cymone) – lead vocal: André Cymone
Disco Away (4:29) (Dez Dickerson) – lead vocal: Dez Dickerson
Instrumental 1 (1:05) (Dez Dickerson) – acoustic guitar & guitar sounding like synth
Instrumental 2 (1:00) (André Cymone) - bass & drums
If I Love You Tonight #1 (4:42) – lead vocal: Gayle Chapman
Turn Me On (1:58) – lead vocal: Gayle Chapman
Head #1

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Reply #190 posted 08/25/15 10:26am

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BREAKING NEWS : Disclaimer. We have a new winner.
It does seem specific to pictures taken with fans, though.
Makes you wonder.

He does look weirded out in some of these fan pix

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Reply #191 posted 08/25/15 10:38am

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André Cymone, Prince and Dez Dickerson, Feb 9th 1980 in Minneapolis MN

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Reply #192 posted 08/25/15 3:10pm

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The first .gif of the thread is excellent. What a strange guitar.

Historians always seem to go straight to the Prinz, but it's refreshing and conforting to know that he tried other guitars before the Telecaster.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #193 posted 08/25/15 8:26pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:










Stop the press. This is Skipper's most ridiculous outfit ever.
Where in hell did he get this ugly sugar-phallic T-Shirt?


I just now get what it means. lol
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Reply #194 posted 08/26/15 9:20am

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It's Gonna Be Lonely

We've been together for quite some time
I'd think by now you'd know
It would take forever to get you off my mind
If ever you decide to go
I guess I got a little insecurity when it's concerning you
I guess I'm just afraid that if you ever leave
I'd be in a messed-up state of blue
And I'd be so lonely

Without you loving me
I know it's gonna be lonely
Without you giving me everylittlesinglething that I need, lonely

Whatever's in your kiss, it really turns me on
'til I go right out of my mind
And who could ever resist your accent from gay Paree
It gets me every time
I betcha thatcha never knew that in my dreams you are the star
The only bummer is that you always want to leave
Who do you think you are

Don't you know it's gonna be lonely
Without you loving me
I know it's gonna be lonely
Without you giving me everylittlesinglething that I need, lonely

It's gonna be lonely

Without you loving me
Giving me everything that I need
Oh pretty baby, can't you see
It's gonna be lonely

Without you loving me
I know, I know it's gonna be lonely
Oh, whatever's in your kiss
I never could resist
Oh, baby don't go!

We've been together for quite some time
It'd take forever to get you off my mind
Oh, girl!

Without you loving me
I know it's gonna be lonely
Without you by my side
Don't you know that I could die, baby

Without you loving me
Can't you see
It's gonna be lonely

It's gonna be lonely, baby
So lonely, baby
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OldFriends4Sale said:



It's Gonna Be Lonely


We've been together for quite some time
I'd think by now you'd know
It would take forever to get you off my mind
If ever you decide to go
I guess I got a little insecurity when it's concerning you
I guess I'm just afraid that if you ever leave
I'd be in a messed-up state of blue
And I'd be so lonely

Without you loving me
I know it's gonna be lonely
Without you giving me everylittlesinglething that I need, lonely

Whatever's in your kiss, it really turns me on
'til I go right out of my mind
And who could ever resist your accent from gay Paree
It gets me every time
I betcha thatcha never knew that in my dreams you are the star
The only bummer is that you always want to leave
Who do you think you are

Don't you know it's gonna be lonely
Without you loving me
I know it's gonna be lonely
Without you giving me everylittlesinglething that I need, lonely

It's gonna be lonely

Without you loving me
Giving me everything that I need
Oh pretty baby, can't you see
It's gonna be lonely

Without you loving me
I know, I know it's gonna be lonely
Oh, whatever's in your kiss
I never could resist
Oh, baby don't go!

We've been together for quite some time
It'd take forever to get you off my mind
Oh, girl!

Without you loving me
I know it's gonna be lonely
Without you by my side
Don't you know that I could die, baby

Without you loving me
Can't you see
It's gonna be lonely

It's gonna be lonely, baby
So lonely, baby


It's really beautiful, but I also get a Boxing Helena vibe from it. The "Who do you think you are?" seems like I may not get a chance to leave.
[Edited 8/26/15 13:03pm]
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Reply #198 posted 08/27/15 5:51am

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like the For You era, as quickly as the Prince era began it quickly ended

A lot was done during this period. Singles Videos Fire It Up Tour the Rebels sessions more photosessions TV appearances

NEXT: Dirty Mind

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iZsaZsa said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

It's Gonna Be Lonely

We've been together for quite some time
I'd think by now you'd know
It would take forever to get you off my mind
If ever you decide to go
I guess I got a little insecurity when it's concerning you
I guess I'm just afraid that if you ever leave
I'd be in a messed-up state of blue
And I'd be so lonely

Without you loving me
I know it's gonna be lonely
Without you giving me everylittlesinglething that I need, lonely

Whatever's in your kiss, it really turns me on
'til I go right out of my mind
And who could ever resist your accent from gay Paree
It gets me every time
I betcha thatcha never knew that in my dreams you are the star
The only bummer is that you always want to leave
Who do you think you are

Don't you know it's gonna be lonely
Without you loving me
I know it's gonna be lonely
Without you giving me everylittlesinglething that I need, lonely

It's gonna be lonely

Without you loving me
Giving me everything that I need
Oh pretty baby, can't you see
It's gonna be lonely

Without you loving me
I know, I know it's gonna be lonely
Oh, whatever's in your kiss
I never could resist
Oh, baby don't go!

We've been together for quite some time
It'd take forever to get you off my mind
Oh, girl!

Without you loving me
I know it's gonna be lonely
Without you by my side
Don't you know that I could die, baby

Without you loving me
Can't you see
It's gonna be lonely

It's gonna be lonely, baby
So lonely, baby
It's really beautiful, but I also get a Boxing Helena vibe from it. The "Who do you think you are?" seems like I may not get a chance to leave. [Edited 8/26/15 13:03pm]

I agree, he did have a good number of song with that vibe. Do Yourself a Favour, Irresistable Bitch, Kiss Me Quick and some others

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iZsaZsa said:


OldFriends4Sale said:



It's Gonna Be Lonely


We've been together for quite some time
I'd think by now you'd know
It would take forever to get you off my mind
If ever you decide to go
I guess I got a little insecurity when it's concerning you
I guess I'm just afraid that if you ever leave
I'd be in a messed-up state of blue
And I'd be so lonely

Without you loving me
I know it's gonna be lonely
Without you giving me everylittlesinglething that I need, lonely

Whatever's in your kiss, it really turns me on
'til I go right out of my mind
And who could ever resist your accent from gay Paree
It gets me every time
I betcha thatcha never knew that in my dreams you are the star
The only bummer is that you always want to leave
Who do you think you are

Don't you know it's gonna be lonely
Without you loving me
I know it's gonna be lonely
Without you giving me everylittlesinglething that I need, lonely

It's gonna be lonely

Without you loving me
Giving me everything that I need
Oh pretty baby, can't you see
It's gonna be lonely

Without you loving me
I know, I know it's gonna be lonely
Oh, whatever's in your kiss
I never could resist
Oh, baby don't go!

We've been together for quite some time
It'd take forever to get you off my mind
Oh, girl!

Without you loving me
I know it's gonna be lonely
Without you by my side
Don't you know that I could die, baby

Without you loving me
Can't you see
It's gonna be lonely

It's gonna be lonely, baby
So lonely, baby



It's really beautiful, but I also get a Boxing Helena vibe from it. The "Who do you think you are?" seems like I may not get a chance to leave. [Edited 8/26/15 13:03pm]


I agree, he did have a good number of song with that vibe. Do Yourself a Favour, Irresistable Bitch, Kiss Me Quick and some others


He's stronger than me. lol
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Interview

Interviewed By Jon Bream
Minneapolis Star and Tribune, January 5, 1979

What kind of show can we expect?
Wild.

Are you nervous about it?
Yeah. But after we start I think we'll be okay.

How does it feel after spending so much time recording the material by yourself to play that same material with other people?
Different. It's complicated at times. It's fun when you hear it come back with someone else's interpretations.

It must sound different to you.
Well, yeah. Deep down I can tell it's different. But on the surface it sounds sometimes better because it's a live situation. Somebody else has just that part to take care of. It's not just me doing everything and trying to keep my energy level up at all times.

Is it difficult to make the transition from one-man band to being in an ensemble?
It's hard.

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The Boombox

http://theboombox.com/pri...979-album/

35 Years Ago: Prince Starts to Come Into His Own With Self-Titled Album

Prince began cementing his reputation as a genre-smashing iconoclast with his self-titled sophomore album, released on Oct. 19, 1979. Written, arranged, produced and performed entirely by Prince himself, the project also found him taking more obvious risks lyrically — pushing sexual boundaries as much as he did musical ones.

The public responded to this nervy combining of Sly Stone’s rock-inflected funk, the soaring vulnerability of Earth Wind and Fire’s Philip Bailey, and the flinty synth-driven attitude of new wave. ‘Prince’ would streak to No. 22 on the Billboard charts, while yielding several tracks that became setlist standards into a new millennium.

In some ways, ‘Prince’ sets the stage for everything that would follow in his catalog. The hopeless romantic heard on his 1978 debut, ‘For You,’ was largely absent. In his place, a quickly maturing artist displaying a newfound aggression. “What’s missing from pop music is danger,” Prince told the Guardian. “There’s no excitement and mystery — people sneaking out and going to these forbidden concerts by Elvis Presley or Jimi Hendrix.”

Prince rekindled that with a varied set that touched on sexual tension (‘Bambi’ and ‘Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad?’ a No. 1 R&B smash), direct eroticism (‘When We’re Dancing Close and Slow,’ ‘It’s Gonna Be Lonely’) and dark obsessions (‘I Feel For You,’ later a hit for Chaka Khan; and ‘I Wanna Be Your Lover,’ a chart-topping R&B hit that crossed over to go No. 11 on the pop charts) — all of it delivered with a sparse instrumentation that only underscored a growing narrative confidence.

That he’d found even that measure of success, as someone only just into his 20s, was a testament to Prince’s prodigious talent — and, perhaps more particularly, his limitless gumption. His relative youth perhaps contextualizes the often-bashful nature of his debut for Warner Bros. Still, when ‘For You’ failed to live up to expectations, only producing a minor hit in ‘Soft and Wet‘ (which sounds far more candid than it actually was), Prince didn’t fall back. Instead, he charged ahead, mixing and matching styles and approaches, the holy and the profane, races and creeds.

The funky darkness of ‘Sexy Dancer’ stands apart from anything Prince had yet done. Then there’s the crunchy rock of ‘Bambi,’ the country-influenced feel of ‘Still Waiting’ and the very adult honesty of ‘It’s Gonna Be Lonely.’ And for all of his personal idiosyncrasies — many of which were only just now coming into the public consciousness — Prince was writing from a very real, grounded place.

That layered approach, he says, traces back to his up-bringing in the remote, but yet still nurturing city of Minneapolis. “I guess if there’s a concept, it’s freedom — personal freedom — and the fact that we all have to do what we want to do,” Prince said of his music, in an early-’80s talk with People. “I think I say exactly the way it is. I don’t particularly think what I sing about is so controversial. My albums deal with being loved and accepted. They deal with war. They deal with sex.”

On the latter point, though, Prince pointedly added: “My songs are more about love than they are about sex,” as he told Rolling Stone in 1983. “I don’t consider myself a great poet, or interpreter a la Moses. I just know I’m here to say what’s on my mind, and I’m in a position where I can do that.”

The hit songs from ‘Prince’ bubbled far enough up the charts to earn him a featured spot on the Jan. 26, 1980 edition of Dick Clark’s ‘American Bandstand,’ though, and that’s where things got weird. Clark, as was his routine, tried to engage Prince in some between-song banter on the program, only to be met with a response that was, at best, stand-offish. At worst, it was criticized as bizarre.

Asked how many instruments he played, Prince would only say: “Thousands.” Asked how long it had been since he produced his first demos, Prince simply held up four fingers. In 1995, the late Clark admitted that, over a career that stretched back to the dawn of rock, this was one of his most difficult broadcast moments — “and I’ve done 10,000 musician interviews.”

Perhaps appropriately, Clark came to understand that Prince had two sides personally, too. As outsized as he would be on vinyl, it was a different story in person. “That’s the nature of the man,” Clark told the Star-Tribune. “He’s an extraordinary performer and not a particularly verbose one in public conversation. Though once you’re off-camera, he’s like everybody else — very normal.”

By then, Prince had constructed his first backing band, and it mirrored his forward-thinking musical world view with a mixed-gender, multi-racial lineup that echoed one of his early influences, the Family Stone band. Included were Andre Cymone, a childhood friend, on bass; Dez Dickerson on guitar; Gayle Chapman and Dr. Fink on keyboards; and Bobby Z. on drums. (Dickerson, Fink and Z would continue with Prince into his biggest hitmaking years, as members of the Revolution.)

“There was a lot of pressure from my ex-buddies in other bands not to have white members in the band,” Prince told Rolling Stone in ’83. “But I always wanted a band that was black and white. Half the musicians I knew only listened to one type of music. That wasn’t good enough for me.”

Besides, that mirrored his own life. “I grew up on the borderline,” Prince, the son of a half African-American father and an Italian mother, told Rolling Stone two years earlier. “I had a bunch of white friends, and I had a bunch of black friends. I never grew up in any one particular culture. We basically got all the new music and dances three months late, so I just decided that I was gonna do my own thing. The white radio stations were mostly country, and the one black radio station was really boring to me. For that matter, I didn’t really have a record player when I was growing up, and I never got a chance to check out Hendrix and the rest of them because they were dead by the time I was really getting serious. I didn’t even start playing guitar until 1974.”

Clearly, Prince caught up — and quickly. He’d recorded ‘Prince’ in just a few weeks, after laboring tirelessly over ‘For You’ — a project that ended up costing Prince twice his initial label advance. Still, he hadn’t quite found his voice yet. There remained some similarities in feel. For instance, ‘Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad?’ bears more than a passing resemblance to ‘I’m Yours’ from his debut. Then there was the band’s first shows, in January of 1979. Execs from Warner deemed them unready, at least for now, to mount a national tour.

Such were the nature of Prince’s burgeoning experiments. He simply hadn’t found the right recipe just yet. But the pot was beginning to boil.

Prince would go on to open for Rick James’ Fire It Up tour in 1980, where their music would earn the new tag “punk funk,” even as ‘Prince’ eventually earned platinum-selling status. By 1981, Prince was in the midst of a streak of such successes that would continue in an almost unbroken line into the early ’90s.



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The first .gif of the thread is excellent. What a strange guitar.

Historians always seem to go straight to the Prinz, but it's refreshing and conforting to know that he tried other guitars before the Telecaster.

He did have some pretty cool guitars back then

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Sales of the first Prince album, For You, released in 1978, weren't so hot, but the fact that the kid was a one-man band -- and his own producer -- got a lot of attention. Then, in 1979, the single "I Wanna Be Your Lover" from his eponymous second LP went to Number One on the soul charts. But the age of innocence was almost over. Prince was back in Minneapolis putting together a band a straggly mix of blacks and whites, all recruited locally. His old friend Andre Cymone was among them, playing bass.

There was a lot of pressure from my ex-buddies in other bands not to have white members in the band," Prince has said. "But I always wanted a band that was black and white. Half the musicians I knew only listened to one type of music. That wasn't good enough for me."

The band, with its double keyboards, learned to reproduce the music Prince had been creating alone in the studio. The synthesizers, often playing horn lines, are a hallmark of the Minneapolis sound. The guitar signature is edgy rock, but the beat reins in any long guitar solos. "Around here, if it's not synthesizers, it's nothing," says a local Minneapolis musician. "This is a keyboard town. It's simplicity. If you listen to a lot of Prince or the Time, it's simple. It's direct and straight to the point. And it feels so good."

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OUTTAKE
Thrill You Or Kill You

Call your ass up on the phone
Your momma tells me U ain't home
What the hell's wrong with U
U must think that I'm a fool
U gotta be crazy 4 playin' with my mind
I could kill U anytime

CHORUS:
One way or another, girl
I'm gonna make U mine
I'm gonna thrill U or kill U
I'm walkin' the line
One way or another girl
I'm gonna make U mine
I'm gonna thrill U or kill U
I'm walkin' the line

Took U out 2 eat one night
U ate up everything in site
Heaven knows I wanted 2 fight
When all I got was a kiss goodnight
Ooh, what a kisser
Your face could stop a clock
But I still love U, baby
I still wanna bust your clock
Hey, hey!

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