iZsaZsa said:

I guess her husband must have hated that unless that ring is just for sport.

I don't believe she was married at the time. In interviews during this period from meeting Prince/joining the band to moving 2 NYC and then joining the Way Corp. She described herself as being alone. I don't think she got married until years later.

lrn36 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Now we know why Gayle left the band. She was hired as a musician and ended up having to play part time porn star. I don't think Prince ever made any of his future female band members go that far.

Do you remember the moment when you decided to leave Prince's band?
GC: Do I remember the moment? No, I don't. What was I thinking? God only knows! I realized that I wasn't growing and I needed more. That's about the sum of it...I was in Prince's world and if I stayed, that's where my growth and energies would be and I wanted more. (People) always ask me “Did you leave, because, of Dirty Mind?” I'd like to roll my eyes and say “No, it wasn't my Dirty Mind, it was his.” Yes, I did tell him that I did not want to sing that song (“Head”) but, I sang “You.” So, what? (Singing lyrics) “You get so hard I don't know what to do.” How stupid was I? “Take your pants off!” (Laughs). No, I really digress...
I don't know if it was the mother instinct, because, it didn't feel like that. But, I wasn't growing. I was in a band, touring and it was the most fun I had in a long time... But, I needed more and I couldn't put my finger on what it was. I just knew I had to go.
I look back now and I probably would have been wise to stay another couple of years. I could have hung in there. But, I needed to grow. So, I left. And now I wax poetic...
?: How did you tell Prince that you were leaving?
GC: We met at his house. He lived on Orono Bay on Lake Minnetonka. I told him I needed to talk to him, because, I was thinking about leaving (the band). I asked if would he have time to sit down with me. He said yes. I lived about a mile and a half down the road from him in a cabin on a resort. I went over and we sat and talked. He wasn't happy that this white chick was leaving. The last thing he ever said to me was “Gayle, if you ever need my help, you just let me know.”
?: When you decided to move on was it a tough decision for you?
GC: It was a very difficult decision to leave. It was a job. If I was going to have “jobs” the rest of my life, there were jobs where I could make a lot more money. I just happened to like that one a lot. That's why it was such a tough decision. The perks were amazing.
The perks of working with Prince were that you were paid, whether you performed or not, because, you had to be kept on the payroll. You would continue to practice and rehearse. When Prince got back from L.A. and said “We're rehearsing,” you would rehearse. That would be it.
I flew (on an airplane) every time I traveled and had my own hotel room. There were drivers that would pick me up and take me wherever I needed to go... It was the beginning of what I thought stardom was like. It was work, yeah, but, it was fun. It was attention getting. How many people would show up to a record store to do an interview dressed in their rock-and-roll gear and hop out of a limo. That was me. It's like that to this day. Maybe they show up in minivans, I don't know.
There was notoriety. There was flamboyance. There were perks. You could go out and eat wherever you wanted, because, there was always money to do that if you wanted to. It wasn't a lot of money, but, it what was you needed to get by. They would have a microwave in my hotel room and instead of spending my money that way, I would go to a grocery store and buy a frozen dinner or something.
Two hundred fifty dollars was more than I had (previously) made in a week. But, it wasn't a lot of money. I just saw that if that was the (salary) cap on what I was doing... I knew that I needed the opportunity to do more and make more (money) if I was going to live the way I wanted to.
I have learned, over the years, that it doesn't matter how much money you make, if you have bad habits, you're never going to have any (money). So, you learn to change your habits with what you do with money. You can make $55,000 or $100,000 a year, (but), if you manage your own money wrong, shame on you!

OldFriends4Sale said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Rude Boy

OldFriends4Sale said:

Guitarhero said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

lrn36 said:

Now we know why Gayle left the band. She was hired as a musician and ended up having to play part time porn star. I don't think Prince ever made any of his future female band members go that far.

Do you remember the moment when you decided to leave Prince's band?
GC: Do I remember the moment? No, I don't. What was I thinking? God only knows! I realized that I wasn't growing and I needed more. That's about the sum of it...I was in Prince's world and if I stayed, that's where my growth and energies would be and I wanted more. (People) always ask me “Did you leave, because, of Dirty Mind?” I'd like to roll my eyes and say “No, it wasn't my Dirty Mind, it was his.” Yes, I did tell him that I did not want to sing that song (“Head”) but, I sang “You.” So, what? (Singing lyrics) “You get so hard I don't know what to do.” How stupid was I? “Take your pants off!” (Laughs). No, I really digress...
I don't know if it was the mother instinct, because, it didn't feel like that. But, I wasn't growing. I was in a band, touring and it was the most fun I had in a long time... But, I needed more and I couldn't put my finger on what it was. I just knew I had to go.
I look back now and I probably would have been wise to stay another couple of years. I could have hung in there. But, I needed to grow. So, I left. And now I wax poetic...
?: How did you tell Prince that you were leaving?
GC: We met at his house. He lived on Orono Bay on Lake Minnetonka. I told him I needed to talk to him, because, I was thinking about leaving (the band). I asked if would he have time to sit down with me. He said yes. I lived about a mile and a half down the road from him in a cabin on a resort. I went over and we sat and talked. He wasn't happy that this white chick was leaving. The last thing he ever said to me was “Gayle, if you ever need my help, you just let me know.”
?: When you decided to move on was it a tough decision for you?
GC: It was a very difficult decision to leave. It was a job. If I was going to have “jobs” the rest of my life, there were jobs where I could make a lot more money. I just happened to like that one a lot. That's why it was such a tough decision. The perks were amazing.
The perks of working with Prince were that you were paid, whether you performed or not, because, you had to be kept on the payroll. You would continue to practice and rehearse. When Prince got back from L.A. and said “We're rehearsing,” you would rehearse. That would be it.
I flew (on an airplane) every time I traveled and had my own hotel room. There were drivers that would pick me up and take me wherever I needed to go... It was the beginning of what I thought stardom was like. It was work, yeah, but, it was fun. It was attention getting. How many people would show up to a record store to do an interview dressed in their rock-and-roll gear and hop out of a limo. That was me. It's like that to this day. Maybe they show up in minivans, I don't know.
There was notoriety. There was flamboyance. There were perks. You could go out and eat wherever you wanted, because, there was always money to do that if you wanted to. It wasn't a lot of money, but, it what was you needed to get by. They would have a microwave in my hotel room and instead of spending my money that way, I would go to a grocery store and buy a frozen dinner or something.
Two hundred fifty dollars was more than I had (previously) made in a week. But, it wasn't a lot of money. I just saw that if that was the (salary) cap on what I was doing... I knew that I needed the opportunity to do more and make more (money) if I was going to live the way I wanted to.
I have learned, over the years, that it doesn't matter how much money you make, if you have bad habits, you're never going to have any (money). So, you learn to change your habits with what you do with money. You can make $55,000 or $100,000 a year, (but), if you manage your own money wrong, shame on you!

Hmm, sounds like she regrets leaving the rock star lifestyle, but she didn't seem to be a fan of the onstage antics. If she stayed on, Wendy and Lisa probably woud have never happened and Gayle probably would had a larger role in songwriting and production. That's probably the real reason for the regret.

APRIL 1980 opening 4 Rick James on the Fire It Up tour

2.Buffalo Memorial Auditorium. Buffalo
3. Toledo Sports Arena. Toledo
4.Civic Center , Saginaw
5. Market Square Arena
7. The Mecca , Milwaukee
10. Civic Center , Baltimore
11. Coliseum , Greensboro
12. Civic Center , Baltimore
13. Civic Arena , Apringfield
18. Mid-South Coliseum , Memphis
19. Von Braun Civic Center. Huntsville
20. Arena , University Of Dayton
24. Coliseum , Richmond
25. Coliseum , Charlotte
26. Coliseum , Macon
27. Municipal Auditorium , Nashville

4.3.1980 Fire It Up Tour at the Toledo Memorial Auditorium in Toledo

1. Soft & Wet

2. Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad?

3. Still Waiting

4. I Feel For You

5. Sexy Dancer

6. Just As Long As We're Together

7. I Wanna Be Your Lover

STILL WAITING

All my friends tell me
About the loves they've had
Can't they see what they're doin' to me?
It makes me feel so bad

http://www.popmatters.com...-rick-jam/

Prince went on to record his self-titled second album in 1979, carrying a more reserved, mystical persona. He gave rare and awkwardly brief interviews which didn’t quite complement his newfound musical aggressiveness. “Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad” and “Bambi” soared with crushing sexual frustration; ballads such as “It’s Gonna Be Lonely” and “When We’re Dancing Close and Slow”, were now eerily erotic instead of hopelessly romantic. He generated profound intimacy by sparse instrumentation, soft voice and confessional lyrics, such as “sex related fantasies is all that my mind can see/ baby, that’s honestly the way I feel”. The looming theme of obsession was mostly sugar coated, for the time being, in the up tempos of “I Wanna Be Your Lover” and “I Feel for You”. Thus, Prince’s sophomore release was catchy enough to earn him his first immediate commercial success, including a national TV performance on American Bandstand.

Prince and Rick James were turning heads as the new men of funk. Each was a bluntly sexually driven figure who was exciting to follow as he groomed a musical talent about to manifest in its entirety. Yet to fully crossover, both continued to depend upon the same fan base of young black Americans. In 1979, James had begun hearing about Prince without giving him a second thought. However, concert promoters regarded them as two of a kind and a guaranteed attraction if billed together. Soon, Prince was slated as James’ opening act for the Fire It Up tour. An inevitable clash was on its way.

James’ baffling first impression is duly noted in his autobiography The Confessions of Rick James: Memoirs of a Super Freak (2007): “The first time I saw Prince and his band I felt sorry for him. Here’s this little dude wearing hi-heels, playing this New Wave Rock & Roll, not moving or anything on stage, just standing there wearing this trench coat. Then at the end of his set he’d take off his trench coat and he’d be wearing little girl’s bloomers. I just died. The guys in the audience just booed the poor thing to death.”

Other accounts suggest Prince made a point in upstaging James. Either way, tensions were running high throughout the tour. Backstage shenanigans of stealing instruments, physical confrontation and general intolerance were served cold by each artist. Long after parting ways, Prince and James never resolved their resentment and remained touchy when comparisons were drawn between them.

well damn someone is giving away my private photos collection from the fire it up tour.

This is a great thread!!!

jackson35 said:

well damn someone is giving away my private photos collection from the fire it up tour.

they R all over the internet. U must have shared them somewhere.

OldFriends4Sale said:

"I Feel for You" is a song written by Prince that originally appeared on his 1979 self-titled album, one of two songs on that album (along with I Wanna Be Your Lover) written as demos for Patrice Rushen, though neither appeared on any Rushen album.^[1] The most successful and well known version was recorded by female R&B singer Chaka Khan, appearing on her 1984 album, I Feel for You. Prince, as songwriter, won the 1985 Grammy Award for Best R&B Song.

I Feel For You

4 I FEEL FOR YOU (3:24)
Produced, Arranged, Composed and Performed by Prince
Engineered by Gary Brandt
Assistant Engineer: Mark Ettel
Recorded at Alpha Studios, Burbank, California
Remixed by Bob Mockler and Prince at Hollywood Sound Recorders, Hollywood, California
Published by Controversy Music, administered by WB Music Corp. ASCAP/Ecnirp Music Inc., administered by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp. BMI
From PRINCE

One of the songs Prince wrote in 1979 was actually inspired by, and intended as a demo for, Patrice Rushen. Despite a serious crush on the singer/keyboardist, he didn’t get the song on her album. But he did gain a friend and his first Gold record. While I WANNA BE YOUR LOVER was atop the R&B charts and threatening the pop Top Ten, Warner Bros. shipped PRINCE. Sometimes criticized for being too slick, or even derivative, in retrospect there is something decent that can be said for all of the nine songs on Prince’s sophomore album. For the purpose of this collection we will limit our focus to its other R&B hit, WHY YOU WANNA TREAT ME SO BAD? and another detoured Rushen demo, I FEEL FOR YOU. The latter is significant in suggesting how commercially Prince could discipline himself to write when the song was aimed at an artist other than himself. Ironically, it was still another female vocalist, Chaka Khan, who finally placed the song on the charts in 1984.

Profound or not, a hit record is one of the few phenomena in this world that can immediately and dramatically alter lives and expectations – expectations of a record company hungry for more of the same and a media who suddenly thrust inordinate importance on everything an artist says or does. In the case of Prince, it meant a debut tour with brilliant reviews for his shockingly innovative band and continued work towards an album that he felt might better capture his true statement.

– Alan Leeds, 1993

(Alan Leeds worked as Prince’s tour manager and Vice President at Paisley Park Records from 1982 to 1992. He won a Grammy award in 1991 for his liner notes to James Brown’s STARTIME).

this thread is incredible,

THANK YOU and much love,oldfriends4sale.

With You still stands as one of my all time fav

Prince ballads.

iZsaZsa said:

Wow! I didn't know that. I hate love Patrice Rushen!

U R Bad lol

hey that was just a spot on the timeframe of the purple lawn

waiting till the dawn

giving u a little shoulder

SignOthetimes1987 said:

this thread is incredible,

THANK YOU and much love,oldfriends4sale.

With You still stands as one of my all time fav

Prince ballads.

Chicago 12.9.1982 With U

looking through my files to see how many renditions I have

Do U like Jill Jones 1987 cover?

I happen to love JJ's cover.

it's like a guilty pleasure.

the synths a bit high in the mix

but she smooths it out and

uses space in the song which makes it beautiful.

Old Friends with yet another one!!! You kill it every time brotha!! THANK U