KCOOLMUZIQ said:

If the Minneapolis sound rip off "Uptown Funk" can become a hit, this one can also....

How many times do I have to say this.....Prince is a veteran artist.Radio does not embrace new music from older,veteran artists.Bruno Mars,on the other hand,is a young "hot" artist.Anything he releases will get massive airplay and become a hit.

Are we clear on this?

2freaky4church1 said:

Clean those ears out ya tonedeaf muthatfockerts. The song is good, certainly better than amusing trifles like Tamborine or Life Could Be So Nice.

^ what??

I strongly disagree..

Tamborine
Life Can Be So Nice

those are 2 Prince classics on 2 very strong Prince albums..

"Stare" is just crap compared to those.. imho....

Nope...The Org is still the most miserable place on earth......

I'm good....

thedance said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Clean those ears out ya tonedeaf muthatfockerts. The song is good, certainly better than amusing trifles like Tamborine or Life Could Be So Nice.

^ what??

I strongly disagree..

Tamborine
Life Can Be So Nice

those are 2 Prince classics on 2 very strong Prince albums..

"Stare" is just crap compared to those.. imho....

Indeed, a crappy, inferior song by an otherwise brilliant musician. I tried listening to it more than once, but I'm not into self-torture.

SoulAlive said:

2freaky4church1 said:

SoulAlive said:

thedoorkeeper said:

SoulAlive said:

How many times do I have to say this.....Prince is a veteran artist.Radio does not embrace new music from older,veteran artists.Bruno Mars,on the other hand,is a young "hot" artist.Anything he releases will get massive airplay and become a hit.

Are we clear on this?

Wait a minute - are you saying if Morris Day had done the vocals on Uptown Funk it wouldn't have been a hit?

look at what gets played on the radio, current artists, seasoned artists like Prince, Madonna don't get a sniff

thedoorkeeper said:

SoulAlive said:

How many times do I have to say this.....Prince is a veteran artist.Radio does not embrace new music from older,veteran artists.Bruno Mars,on the other hand,is a young "hot" artist.Anything he releases will get massive airplay and become a hit.

Are we clear on this?

Wait a minute - are you saying if Morris Day had done the vocals on Uptown Funk it wouldn't have been a hit?

.

is this sarcasm? There's no way Uptown Funk would be a hit with Morris Day. Morris Day would not get the same promotion as Bruno Mars, and even if he did, audiences still might not buy his image because he's too old.

.

For marketing purposes, there's a huge difference between a young artist paying tribute to the music of the 80s and an old artist continuing to play music from the 80s.

thedance said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Clean those ears out ya tonedeaf muthatfockerts. The song is good, certainly better than amusing trifles like Tamborine or Life Could Be So Nice.

^ what??

I strongly disagree..

Tamborine
Life Can Be So Nice

those are 2 Prince classics on 2 very strong Prince albums..

"Stare" is just crap compared to those.. imho....

.

I agree with everything said here and I don't even think Stare is bad. Seriously, Life Can Be So Nice has a level of energy we will never see from Prince again...

Lyrics (revised from an earlier post):

[Intro]
Oh baby

[Verse 1]
First thing's first, we'd like U 2 STARE
We used 2 go on stage in our underwear
We changed up, we got a brand new beat
Now we got this song poppin' in the street
They all STARE, can I help U?
Everybody jam cause this party's goin' ham
Just STARE, can I help U?
Ain't nobody stoppin' cause we got this party poppin' now

[Verse 2]
Second thing's first, we know U got thirst
But we like it when U're fiending 4 the funk until it hurts
Your hair! can U blame me?
Every time you whip it 2 the beat, it make a brother just STARE
Sister freak me
Nobody got a chance
U need 2 back up, let me show you how 2 dance
STARE, can I get a kiss?

[Chorus]
I pull out a tune
Curvy ma, tell me what U wanna do
Do U wanna
Uh-uh-uh-uh-ahh-ahh
Uh-uh-uh-uh-ahh-ahh
Do U wanna
Uh-uh-uh-uh-ahh-ahh
Sexy dancer
Uh-uh-uh-uh-ahh-ahh
Sexy dancer
Do U wanna
Uh-uh-uh-uh-ahh-ahh
Uh-uh-uh-uh-ahh-ahh
Do U wanna

[Bridge]
U don't wanna fake it
'Cause U know we couldn't take it
But we like it when U shake it
Baby careful not 2 break it
Don't break it now

[Chorus]
Do U wanna
Uh-uh-uh-uh-ahh-ahh
Uh-uh-uh-uh-ahh-ahh

[Verse 3]
Last things last
I need your number fast
I'd rather let the music talk
While U and me walk in2 the past
In2 the past
In2 the...

[Outro]
STARE
STARE
STARE
STARE
STARE

paulludvig said:

Graycap23 said:

True

I still feel that's better than Josh on autopilot. I prefer this to both XFace and Hardrocklover.

But after hearing Adonis&Bathsheba earlier this year and being reminded of what Prince is capable of, most of what he does these days seems rather throwaway

I just don't get the love "Adonis"or "Crucial" get.

These are pretentious photocopies/demos of "Adore", Susan Rogers is so right when she mocks this stuff. Useless 5/4, cringing falsettos, monster truck hall reverbs, all that jazz amounts to almost nothing. These are throwaways, and they better stay that way.


As for "Stare", what can I say? Prince is still persuaded that this is what we'd like to hear from him, when in fact it's really starting to sound like a "how many variations can I get from the same ol'pattern" contest with himself, and us yawning at it for years now.

Oh, he wins, for sure. But the prize looks like it's made in China.

It's not bad, I'm sure he's sincere, but things like "Stare" is way too easy for him.
If he's still the same workaholic, I just can't understand why something extradordinary doesn't come out the studio. I mean you can't work for a whole year and then come out with THAT.

Even Hardrocklover... Yeah, it has those hints of greatness, but it's still Prince doing his stuff, and us applauding in hope this applause will coach him into higher levels. All of this is starting to look very autarcic, going in circles, and pretty vain. A fucking cult.

Pity though, the sixties are approaching and I was still under the impression that he might try something ambitious. But he's definitely trapped in his own world. Oh, he is probably happy alright. But his output has no echo whatsoever with the reality of today's world, be it the sound, the mood, the politics and social issues.

Such a shame though, I really hoped AOA was the "Controversy" to a 2015's "1999".

Graycap23 said:

SoulAlive said:

How many times do I have to say this.....Prince is a veteran artist.Radio does not embrace new music from older,veteran artists.Bruno Mars,on the other hand,is a young "hot" artist.Anything he releases will get massive airplay and become a hit.

Are we clear on this?

Agreed....it is the game as it is played.

This ain't the 70s or 80s when "older" artists got radio play and sometimes had a hit record. That's the way it is these days, folks.

bonatoc said:

thedoorkeeper said:

SoulAlive said:

How many times do I have to say this.....Prince is a veteran artist.Radio does not embrace new music from older,veteran artists.Bruno Mars,on the other hand,is a young "hot" artist.Anything he releases will get massive airplay and become a hit.

Are we clear on this?

Wait a minute - are you saying if Morris Day had done the vocals on Uptown Funk it wouldn't have been a hit?

Hmmm... well, probably not as big--and maybe not at all. Ronson has some zing as a "hot-ish producer" so maybe a Ronson featuring Morris Day track might have gotten play.

.

But, yeah, let's be serious. With Morris instead of Bruno... it might have gotten play on some radio, but I would have never heard it on any of my local stations. Never above maybe #90 on the pop charts. And probably never even appear. Or be the single, truthfully. They would have released something else.

.

Seriously, the man's 57 years old. He isn't having a big pop hit, even with a "hit song" (in other hands). Any more than Prince is. They're both capable of making good records, putting on great shows. They might be capable of making very good, possibly great records (especially if they worked together)--but they don't fit the pop music machinery anymore.

SoulAlive said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

If the Minneapolis sound rip off "Uptown Funk" can become a hit, this one can also....

How many times do I have to say this.....Prince is a veteran artist.Radio does not embrace new music from older,veteran artists.Bruno Mars,on the other hand,is a young "hot" artist.Anything he releases will get massive airplay and become a hit.

Are we clear on this?

I bet U if Mj was still alive & recorded it. It will b in top 10 rqdio play....

[Edited 8/2/15 20:45pm]

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SoulAlive said:

How many times do I have to say this.....Prince is a veteran artist.Radio does not embrace new music from older,veteran artists.Bruno Mars,on the other hand,is a young "hot" artist.Anything he releases will get massive airplay and become a hit.

Are we clear on this?

I bet if U if Mj was still alive & recorded it. It will b in top 10 rqdio play....

I doubt it. He would have to be paired with Justin Timberlake, etc., who is getting "old" by industry standards.

murph said:

Nope...The Org is still the most miserable place on earth......

I'm good....

purplethunder3121 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I bet if U if Mj was still alive & recorded it. It will b in top 10 rqdio play....

I doubt it. He would have to be paired with Justin Timberlake, etc., who is getting "old" by industry standards.

Justin is a "different" kind of artist. The same rule doesn't apply....But I know what U mean..

bonatoc said:

paulludvig said:

I still feel that's better than Josh on autopilot. I prefer this to both XFace and Hardrocklover.

But after hearing Adonis&Bathsheba earlier this year and being reminded of what Prince is capable of, most of what he does these days seems rather throwaway

I just don't get the love "Adonis"or "Crucial" get.

These are pretentious photocopies/demos of "Adore", Susan Rogers is so right when she mocks this stuff. Useless 5/4, cringing falsettos, monster truck hall reverbs, all that jazz amounts to almost nothing. These are throwaways, and they better stay that way.


As for "Stare", what can I say? Prince is still persuaded that this is what we'd like to hear from him, when in fact it's really starting to sound like a "how many variations can I get from the same ol'pattern" contest with himself, and us yawning at it for years now.

Oh, he wins, for sure. But the prize looks like it's made in China.

It's not bad, I'm sure he's sincere, but things like "Stare" is way too easy for him.
If he's still the same workaholic, I just can't understand why something extradordinary doesn't come out the studio. I mean you can't work for a whole year and then come out with THAT.

Even Hardrocklover... Yeah, it has those hints of greatness, but it's still Prince doing his stuff, and us applauding in hope this applause will coach him into higher levels. All of this is starting to look very autarcic, going in circles, and pretty vain. A fucking cult.

Pity though, the sixties are approaching and I was still under the impression that he might try something ambitious. But he's definitely trapped in his own world. Oh, he is probably happy alright. But his output has no echo whatsoever with the reality of today's world, be it the sound, the mood, the politics and social issues.

Such a shame though, I really hoped AOA was the "Controversy" to a 2015's "1999".

You gotta love the Org, where everything is studied and pricked to death under a microscope by someone incredibly intense with a raging love/hate relationship with the examined specimen. Except for a few usual suspects, we all seem to go through a rainbow of emotions as we're spoonfed individual morsels of Prince music out of their intended context. Chances are some of us will love the track we initially hated or hate the track we loved, in the context of the finished product. For instance we don't know how the album produced with Josh will sound yet, it might well be, overall, a successor to AOA.

Not sure where Stare fits but so far I like both Hardrocklover and Stare, both tracks sound like they could be fun and interesting moments on a new album so long as youre not "Waiting 4 a New SOTT".

Aerogram said:

Not sure where Stare fits but so far I like both Hardrocklover and Stare, both tracks sound like they could be fun and interesting moments on a new album so long as youre not "Waiting 4 a New SOTT".

This is said quite a lot here on the org. But why not wait for a new SOTT? All that means is you'll be happy if you're not waiting for an album that's really, really good. After NPS and Rave he brought out TRC, so it's not like it can't be done.

KingSausage said:

Adonis and Crucial are two of the greatest songs Prince ever recorded. There's nothing throwaway about them.

OK, they're not throwaways. But "greatest"? "Ever recorded"?

These are the very first slow jams where Prince becomes a caricature of himself.
There must be qualities in them, but to my ears it's Prince at his most corny.
In the same league of "The One", "The Love We Make", useless songs,
rehashes of stuff already done. Good craftsmanship, but it's Prince, so what's new.

How can you release something as delicate and haunting as "Condition Of The Heart",
and then yodel "Cruuuuu-ciaaaal" over music obviously intended for elevators?

The production is torture to my ears, and they're simply not great compositions.
They sound like they've been written in five stars hotel suite, they exsude duty-free Dom Pérignon,
they're definitive kitsch statements.
They may be kinda catchy for a couple of minutes, but they don't stick.
Poor Eric, poor Atlanta, forced to play this empty, childish riff.

The kind of songs that makes it too easy for Jamie Foxx to mock Prince.

its a wonder he even releases anything with u people dissecting it to death

bonatoc said:

KingSausage said:

Adonis and Crucial are two of the greatest songs Prince ever recorded. There's nothing throwaway about them.

OK, they're not throwaways. But "greatest"? "Ever recorded"?

These are the very first slow jams where Prince becomes a caricature of himself.
There must be qualities in them, but to my ears it's Prince at his most corny.
In the same league of "The One", "The Love We Make", useless songs,
rehashes of stuff already done. Good craftsmanship, but it's Prince, so what's new.

How can you release something as delicate and haunting as "Condition Of The Heart",
and then yodel "Cruuuuu-ciaaaal" over music obviously intended for elevators?

The production is torture to my ears, and they're simply not great compositions.
They sound like they've been written in five stars hotel suite, they exsude duty-free Dom Pérignon,
they're definitive kitsch statements.
They may be kinda catchy for a couple of minutes, but they don't stick.
Poor Eric, poor Atlanta, forced to play this empty, childish riff.

The kind of songs that makes it too easy for Jamie Foxx to mock Prince.

Crucial ia an awesome song . Excellent catchy melody with great saxophone solo like i wish he would do know . We were promised super amazing hit after hit with this new album.However not hearing massive hits with either stare or hardrocklover. They are fine but was expecting a gold experience or diamonds and pearls

[Edited 8/3/15 6:32am]

i got it ....david lee roth...stand up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpgHBJaubKI

[Edited 8/3/15 6:46am]

KingSausage said:

Adonis and Crucial are two of the greatest songs Prince ever recorded. There's nothing throwaway about them.

Exactly. Anyone that says they are not, based on their "OPINION"... Due not have the musical sophistification as a Prince fan...

They fall into the category on here that are like... "Planet Earth sounds great, that's an excellent album... Lotusflow3r is better than Sign O The Times... Art Official Age is the top 4 Prince album of all time..."

There's a difference between true Prince fans that judge him based on his musical criteria and his own standards... And there are those just casual listeners that like whatever suites their own "ears".

luvsexy4all said:

i got it ....david lee roth...stand up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpgHBJaubKI

[Edited 8/3/15 6:46am]

listen to the opening

luvsexy4all said:

its a wonder he even releases anything with u people dissecting it to death