A remastered Purple Rain is almost a certainty. The market and industry are obviously primed and ready for it. Shame that Prince (if it is him) is holding it up.

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I would say this one will for sure happen. Any of the others, probably not.

The PR remaster will happen at some point. It's already been Ridiculously over-hyped. Multiple theads about it and OT threads hijacked by the talk of it.

It doesn't really need to be remastered. It still sounds good. There is nothing horrific that needs to be "fixed". SOTT on CD is in far more need of a re-master.

Fans are assuming that with the remaster will come outtakes/extended/alternate/live versions of songs. It isn't going to happen and we know it. We might get a live album with it.

There isn't even a definitive "Alternate" version of the album. Just a handful of outtakes fans think will change their lives. The best songs all made the album.

Noodled24 said:

The PR remaster will happen at some point. It's already been Ridiculously over-hyped. Multiple theads about it and OT threads hijacked by the talk of it.

It doesn't really need to be remastered. It still sounds good. There is nothing horrific that needs to be "fixed". SOTT on CD is in far more need of a re-master.

Fans are assuming that with the remaster will come outtakes/extended/alternate/live versions of songs. It isn't going to happen and we know it. We might get a live album with it.

There isn't even a definitive "Alternate" version of the album. Just a handful of outtakes fans think will change their lives. The best songs all made the album.

Yeah but to have a crystal clear version of Possessed and the full length Computer Blue....man that would be so great. It'll probably never happen but we can dream.

I would be really disappointed if there are no rare,previously unreleased bonus tracks.

Noodled24 said:

Fans are assuming that with the remaster will come outtakes/extended/alternate/live versions of songs. It isn't going to happen and we know it.

The Remaster of Purple Rain was NOT over hyped! It would had been the beggest musical event of the year! But (as many of us predicted) Prince blew it. Prince failed....which is why I turned my back towards him now. *jeah*

Noodled24 said:

Fans are assuming that with the remaster will come outtakes/extended/alternate/live versions of songs.

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Because that's what was announced.

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http://consequenceofsound...ard-music/

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Today, Warner Bros. Records announced a new agreement with Prince “that will see the release of long-awaited, previously unheard music, while giving the artist ownership of the master recordings of his classic, global hits,” according to a press release.

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http://www.blackenterpris...ard-music/

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“Everyone at Warner Bros Records is delighted to be working with Prince once again: he is one of the world’s biggest stars and a truly unique talent” said Cameron Strang, Chairman & CEO, Warner Bros. Records. “We are also very excited about the release of new and re-mastered music from one of his greatest masterpieces.”

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http://www.brooklynvegan....t_rel.html

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PRINCE AND WARNER BROS. RECORDS UNVEIL NEW PARTNERSHIP

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April 18th, 2014 (Minneapolis, MN) - Prince and Warner Bros. Records today announced a new agreement that will see the release of long-awaited, previously unheard music, while giving the artist ownership of the master recordings of his classic, global hits. At the same time, the deal extends Prince's relationship with Warner Bros. Records, through an exclusive global licensing partnership that covers every album released from 1978 into the nineties. The financial terms of the agreement were not disclosed.

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For Prince fans worldwide, the new partnership will open a veritable goldmine. The surprise announcement comes just in time for this summer's 30th Anniversary celebrations of the artist's breakthrough album and film, Purple Rain, which were released in 1984. For the first time, Prince will be releasing a digitally re-mastered, deluxe version of this classic album. Other planned projects will follow.

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Prince said, "A brand-new studio album is on the way and both Warner Bros. Records and Eye are quite pleased with the results of the negotiations and look forward to a fruitful working relationship."

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"Everyone at Warner Bros Records is delighted to be working with Prince once again: he is one of the world's biggest stars and a truly unique talent" said Cameron Strang, Chairman & CEO, Warner Bros. Records. "We are also very excited about the release of new and re-mastered music from one of his greatest masterpieces."

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jaawwnn said:

Yeah but to have a crystal clear version of Possessed and the full length Computer Blue....man that would be so great. It'll probably never happen but we can dream.

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There are two recordings of "Possessed" and at least two versions of "Computer Blue".

BartVanHemelen said:

jaawwnn said:

Yeah but to have a crystal clear version of Possessed and the full length Computer Blue....man that would be so great. It'll probably never happen but we can dream.

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There are two recordings of "Possessed" and at least two versions of "Computer Blue".

Oh right, well in that case i guess it wouldn't be great after all.

jaawwnn said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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There are two recordings of "Possessed" and at least two versions of "Computer Blue".

Oh right, well in that case i guess it wouldn't be great after all.

not be great?

what were you smoking?

of course we need all versions if he bothers releasing that stuff anyways.

"We are also very excited about the release of new and re-mastered music from one of his greatest masterpieces."

Just one?

udo said:

jaawwnn said:

Oh right, well in that case i guess it wouldn't be great after all.

not be great?

what were you smoking?

of course we need all versions if he bothers releasing that stuff anyways.

Yes I agree, I was just giving a grumpy response to Bart's unasked for, irrelevant info.

Get over it, that won't happen in a physical release, with bonuses. Prince was clear about that two months ago. "same album, same content"

RODSERLING said:

Prince was clear about that two months ago. "same album, same content"

How well would that sell?

How happy would WB be?

How long until they send him some letters, lawyers, etc?

udo said:

RODSERLING said:

Prince was clear about that two months ago. "same album, same content"

How well would that sell?

How happy would WB be?

How long until they send him some letters, lawyers, etc?

Prince won't be sued. Wb could re-release PR according to the contract but without Prince's involvement and promotion, there is no point. Both parties lost interest.

RODSERLING said:

udo said:

How well would that sell?

How happy would WB be?

How long until they send him some letters, lawyers, etc?

Prince won't be sued. Wb could re-release PR according to the contract but without Prince's involvement and promotion, there is no point. Both parties lost interest.

That depends on the terms in the contract.

Can you show us the terms in there?

Did WB get P to allow some bonus tracks? (b-sides, remixes, extended versions, unreleased stuff, etc)

If the contract has no terms for bonus materials, no promotion effort by P, then what is WB waiting for?

RODSERLING said:

Get over it, that won't happen in a physical release, with bonuses. Prince was clear about that two months ago. "same album, same content"

That's a blantant misquote. He said "same album", he never said "same content". Please don't do that.

However, it's now safe to assume that the remaster won't see the light of day b4 the end of 2014 and given all the public bashing I doubt relationships between and WB are too great. My guess 4 what it's worth is that since the reversal of the masters most likely included a compulsary licence for WB for XXX years and included specifics on remasters, still feels he's a slave. He probably won't be happy until he's 100% free to do whatever the hell he wants with those recordings and it'd be just like him to spoil the whole thing as much as he can in the meantime, just to make WB's life difficult.

udo said:

RODSERLING said:

Prince won't be sued. Wb could re-release PR according to the contract but without Prince's involvement and promotion, there is no point. Both parties lost interest.

That depends on the terms in the contract.

Can you show us the terms in there?

Did WB get P to allow some bonus tracks? (b-sides, remixes, extended versions, unreleased stuff, etc)

If the contract has no terms for bonus materials, no promotion effort by P, then what is WB waiting for?

It was supposed to be a huge release with a lot of promotionnal effort, a huge tour, etc. with unreleased stuff.

The thing is that when WB saw how prince didn't care to promote about AOA and PE, despite he insisted to release them before PR, they understood too late, they had been screwed.

WB has no interest in releasing a reeditionwithout promotionnal effort by Prince. Even his fanbase didn't buy AOA and PE, so PURPLE RAIN without extra material ?

The large audience doesn't care about prince if there is no huge promotion. This release without the involvement of prince would be a guaranteed loss of money.

RODSERLING said:

udo said:

That depends on the terms in the contract.

Can you show us the terms in there?

Did WB get P to allow some bonus tracks? (b-sides, remixes, extended versions, unreleased stuff, etc)

If the contract has no terms for bonus materials, no promotion effort by P, then what is WB waiting for?

It was supposed to be a huge release with a lot of promotionnal effort, a huge tour, etc. with unreleased stuff.

The thing is that when WB saw how prince didn't care to promote about AOA and PE, despite he insisted to release them before PR, they understood too late, they had been screwed.

WB has no interest in releasing a reeditionwithout promotionnal effort by Prince. Even his fanbase didn't buy AOA and PE, so PURPLE RAIN without extra material ?

The large audience doesn't care about prince if there is no huge promotion. This release without the involvement of prince would be a guaranteed loss of money.

What do you mean "It was supposed to"?

RODSERLING said:

It was supposed to be a huge release with a lot of promotionnal effort, a huge tour, etc. with unreleased stuff.

The thing is that when WB saw how prince didn't care to promote about AOA and PE, despite he insisted to release them before PR, they understood too late, they had been screwed.

WB has no interest in releasing a reeditionwithout promotionnal effort by Prince. Even his fanbase didn't buy AOA and PE, so PURPLE RAIN without extra material ?

The large audience doesn't care about prince if there is no huge promotion. This release without the involvement of prince would be a guaranteed loss of money.

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Utter nonsense. WBR would have never expected any promotional effort from Prince WRT PR.

BartVanHemelen said:

jaawwnn said:

Yeah but to have a crystal clear version of Possessed and the full length Computer Blue....man that would be so great. It'll probably never happen but we can dream.

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There are two recordings of "Possessed" and at least two versions of "Computer Blue".

I have 3 different versions of Computer Blue. The best being the 11:59 "Corridor version" of Computer Blue. The 14 minute version of Computer Blue, and the edited 9 minute version of Computer Blue. Techincally I can say 4 different versions, if I count the 4 minute album version.

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BartVanHemelen said:

RODSERLING said:

It was supposed to be a huge release with a lot of promotionnal effort, a huge tour, etc. with unreleased stuff.

The thing is that when WB saw how prince didn't care to promote about AOA and PE, despite he insisted to release them before PR, they understood too late, they had been screwed.

WB has no interest in releasing a reeditionwithout promotionnal effort by Prince. Even his fanbase didn't buy AOA and PE, so PURPLE RAIN without extra material ?

The large audience doesn't care about prince if there is no huge promotion. This release without the involvement of prince would be a guaranteed loss of money.

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Utter nonsense. WBR would have never expected any promotional effort from Prince WRT PR.

Oh yeah ? So why WB didn' t release it yet ? What are they expecting if not prince's involvment in promotion?

Many insiders claimed that a huge tour, tv specials and performances were scheduled. They wanted to make it an event release, a million seller. PURPLE RAIN is still in the top 15 of the best selling album in the US, without any re-release.

Scarfo said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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There are two recordings of "Possessed" and at least two versions of "Computer Blue".

I have 3 different versions of Computer Blue. The best being the 11:59 "Corridor version" of Computer Blue. The 14 minute version of Computer Blue, and the edited 9 minute version of Computer Blue. Techincally I can say 4 different versions, if I count the 4 minute album version.

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But most of those versions are edits of one "master" version, AFAIK. Unless they are actually different mixes, but I don't think so.

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Utter nonsense. WBR would have never expected any promotional effort from Prince WRT PR.

Oh yeah ? So why WB didn' t release it yet ? What are they expecting if not prince's involvment in promotion?

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Why did it take years before we got a Hits-compilation? Because Prince was in the way and WBR eventually paid him a couple of millions to get out of the way. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not cooperating 100% WRT outtakes etc., using them as leverage of some sort for whatever he's deciding to release next. At a certain point WBR realized they weren't getting it in time for a reelase this year, which meant it immediately got postponed for a couple of months.

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Also: this is a one-time opportunity for WBR. It's not like they'll get another shot at a "proper" deluxe edition a couple of years down the line if they mess this one up, so this needs to be the definitive release.

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Many insiders claimed that a huge tour, tv specials and performances were scheduled. They wanted to make it an event release, a million seller. PURPLE RAIN is still in the top 15 of the best selling album in the US, without any re-release.

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If anybody at WBR expected a sliver of promotional effort from Prince WRT Purple Rain then they were idiots. The best they could have hoped for was that he wouldn't get in the way, and even that was apparently too much to ask (see recent interview in which he kinda pissed on the remaster).

Maybe they'll try to get it out in time for an Oscars 30th anniversary performance. They already did a 20th anniversary at the Grammy's. Would they want to do another one?

its never gonna happen.

Noodled24 said:

It's already been Ridiculously over-hyped.

Over-hyped?


Maybe overhyped at the Org..... maybe.

But not outside, not a single person outside this small fan community knows anything about a Purple Rain remaster.

I am afraid noone cares at all, about this re-release......

(Damn I have/ had high hopes for this)

For those of us aware of The Purple Rain 30th Anniversary Remaster Deluxe Edition are disappointed about it probably won't ever happen (I know I am). Let's face the reality that the Purple Rain Remaster just isn't gonna happen. Prince in that recent interview was against the release of it. He even said "same album" which is a direct contradiction of what was promised in their public agreement on the project (see Prince re-signs with WB announcement). Then Prince's two albums flopped (AoA,EP). Knowing Prince's track record, you think he's gonna blame himself for this? No, in Prince's mind he can do no wrong. You know he's gonna blame WB. Remember what happened with Prince and Clive Davis after Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic flopped? Exactly. So instead of a Purple Rain Remaster release in 2015, we're gonna hear about Prince seeking legal action against WB to sever ties with them, and WB counter sueing Prince for breach of contract. In other words, it's gonna be like the 90's all over again. Watch.

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WB will sue and they will win. Then they will open up a website where we can buy the entire vault 1978-1996.