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Reply #390 posted 09/02/14 6:43am

EmilyMai

Blixical said:

It.

is....

bloody.....

awful..........

God, somebody shoot that album and put it out of its misery.

With regret (so far) I am in agreement with the above comment based on the tracks I have heard.

Why am I listening to a young girl coughng, albeit with very little conviction, intermittenly throughout this song? Somebody get the girl some tunes and help Prince remember how to write one. (Just my opinion though "ain't nothing wrong with my ears")

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Reply #391 posted 09/02/14 6:55am

Pentacle

The entire groove of "Gett Off" is a looped sample directly lifted from EnVogue's "Hold On".

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As for "U Know", reguardless the origins of the groove track, I like it alot.

It threw me for a 'loop'!

.

...i'll get my coat...



Michael B has talked about creating the drum loop with Prince. Also the bass is completely different.

It's just the same tempo.

Stop the Prince Apologists ™
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Reply #392 posted 09/02/14 6:57am

Militant

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A closer comparison rather than "Gett Off", would be "The Greatest Romance", which is entirely built around Craig Mack's "Flava In Ya Ear" riff, so much so that the original producer, Easy Mo Bee, includes Prince's track in his own production discography.

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Reply #393 posted 09/02/14 7:08am

lwr001

WetDream said:

jseven said:

with U. Wonder the age of the people who hate it n the people who like it. Twitter ("youngins") like it. Facebook (older) don't. As someone said earlier "the more it is hated here, the more the general public is going to like it.

What an absolutly mental thing to say.

No, "youngins" i have seen on social networks are laughing just as bad at it. Secondly, why do you celebrate this over middle-aged man trying so desperately (destroying his once unique vision in the process) to look young and get down with the kids? It's hugely embarrassing for him. I used to go to Prince to get away from absolute nonsense on the radio. This was a guy that made his own trends......now.....this.

Lastly....i am classed as a "youngin" and this is my opinion of this shite.

prove it,,show me some quotes of youngions laughing and ill dbl down and show you they like it..at teh end of the day, i like and i guess thats all that matter,, what i eat do make you shoit or vice versa

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Reply #394 posted 09/02/14 7:24am

SirComeSpectio
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I like it....except for the autotune part.

Pop music is becoming the all purpose, non purpose music of the ages.
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Reply #395 posted 09/02/14 7:27am

Alexandernvrmi
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Militant said:

A closer comparison rather than "Gett Off", would be "The Greatest Romance", which is entirely built around Craig Mack's "Flava In Ya Ear" riff, so much so that the original producer, Easy Mo Bee, includes Prince's track in his own production discography.

correct

You're good Militant!

Dance... Let me see you dance
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Reply #396 posted 09/02/14 7:38am

thedoorkeeper

I'm surprised so many people have a problem
with autotune - he has used it in the past.
He has been doing vocal manipulation since the
eighties.No body seemed to have any problems
with his Camille voice.
confused
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Reply #397 posted 09/02/14 7:42am

ufoclub

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nayroo2002 said:

The entire groove of "Gett Off" is a looped sample directly lifted from EnVogue's "Hold On".

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Hmmm...

[Edited 9/2/14 8:10am]

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Reply #398 posted 09/02/14 7:47am

stillwaiting

ThirdStrike said:

That's my point though. You brought up "Incense & Candles". Sure, us "old heads" are almost nauseated by the very thought of trend following in the form of his use of auto-tune on "U Know". And I would almost agree (if that) with "Incense & Candles" my then 12 year old daughter was really digging that song because it sounded current and hip. Sure, maybe it's not what we think of in terms of what constitues quality music. But the benefit of the exposure to a broader audience by its use cannot be ignored. Not sure if you'd agree, but I thought that was kind of cool to see. Younger consumers being exposed to P's music through the use of contemporary styles and practices. Again, the positive may (reluctantly in this case at least) outweigh the negative with this latest release. Just my 2 cents...

"broader audience?" Really? Songs by 56 years olds get almost no audience. If they don't capture the over 35 mindset, or really over 40 mindset, they get lost in the shuffle. "Fallinlove2nite" was not as bad as people say, but it had the sounds of modern pop fluff and went NOWHERE. U Know is NOT going to be the slightest hit, so there is no "broader audience."

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Reply #399 posted 09/02/14 7:52am

Gohi

Militant said:

A closer comparison rather than "Gett Off", would be "The Greatest Romance", which is entirely built around Craig Mack's "Flava In Ya Ear" riff, so much so that the original producer, Easy Mo Bee, includes Prince's track in his own production discography.

I guess the difference is that those two songs have actual melodies and aren't tuneless garbage like this song. imho.

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Reply #400 posted 09/02/14 7:57am

2elijah

paulludvig said:



wonder505 said:




littlebandit said:




Prince trying to become relevant to the teen/20+ crowd.



There was quirky Prince, there was even weird Prince, and there was innovative Prince.



This is none of these. This is Prince who has been fawned after by a bunch of yea-sayers.



When he worked with Wendy & Lisa, they had him listen to Stravinsky, Miles, Coltrane and the Beatles.



These people now try to get him to listen to today's dreck, and he went one step further and allows tem to produce.



Abysmal effort... so far.



Thank God for Adonis & Bathsheeba which tanks all of this.




Yeah because his father who was a Jazz musician did not expose him to shit until Wendy and Lisa came into his life. rolleyes


[Edited 9/1/14 8:04am]



Yeah I don't understand why people still bother to peddle that absurd myth.


I hear you, as though W&L introduced Prince to music altogether, when he was making music long before they showed up.lol Anyway, I actually like the beat of this song but could do without the autotune, and the annoying 'uh huh, uh huh'. I actually like this song better than that track 'clouds'.
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Reply #401 posted 09/02/14 8:01am

Militant

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The Guardian (for my money, the best newspaper in the UK) says that "U Know" is "a dazzling future soul groove" and "a return to form".



Inclined to agree!


link - http://www.theguardian.co...MP=twt_gu

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Reply #402 posted 09/02/14 8:04am

Nikkie

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Militant said:

The Guardian (for my money, the best newspaper in the UK) says that "U Know" is "a dazzling future soul groove" and "a return to form".





Inclined to agree!


link - http://www.theguardian.co...MP=twt_gu



Haha, isn't this hilarious? Even some of my friends are sending me messages about how much they like the track. That doesn't happen often. wink
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Reply #403 posted 09/02/14 8:14am

Krieger

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Well, I like it!

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Reply #404 posted 09/02/14 8:15am

EmancipationLo
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I'm a bit surprised that this sampling issue is so relevant to so many people on here.

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We all know that Prince is a master on several instruments, so it's not like he has used this sample because he would have been unable to play this keyboard hook in the background himself (it's not exactly a Beethoven sonata...). If he liked this track and wanted to make it his own, sampling it and putting his own vocals on top was a consequent decision. As I have stated before, there is more original input by Prince composition-wise in "U know" than in most of his cover versions (live or studio) for which he mainly just changed arrangements. It's as if people go mad just because they read the words "sample" and "Prince" in one sentence...

prince
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Reply #405 posted 09/02/14 8:23am

leadline

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Did Prince originally write this or is this a cover song? This track was written by Prince according to princevault, with (assumed) after it.

[Edited 9/2/14 8:43am]

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #406 posted 09/02/14 8:23am

novabrkr

nayroo2002 said:

novabrkr said:


Not really comparable.

This is the first time he's lifted a sample from another song and made an entire track by just looping it (there are a few alterations and some sound FX type of synth sounds thrown on top of it, but that's it). Yeah, I know he's also sampled Hendrix for "Tick, Tick, Bang", but that one had more of a proper compositional approach to it. This one is very sketchy.

What's worth noting is that even the original track has a sketchy overall feel. Prince didn't really alter the idea of the original that much. People are usually more comfortable with sampling when you make something entirely different out of the sample, but that's not the case here.


The entire groove of "Gett Off" is a looped sample directly lifted from EnVogue's "Hold On".

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[...]


Oh, now I remember that rumour. I thought you were referring to the James Brown sample used on it.

Playing the En Vogue track right now... no, I can't hear it myself. What part of the En Vogue song did he allegedly sample? Do people really think the beat on "Gett Off" comes from the intro to this track? It most likely doesn't.

[Edited 9/2/14 9:13am]

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Reply #407 posted 09/02/14 8:24am

novabrkr

EmancipationLover said:

I'm a bit surprised that this sampling issue is so relevant to so many people on here.

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We all know that Prince is a master on several instruments, so it's not like he has used this sample because he would have been unable to play this keyboard hook in the background himself (it's not exactly a Beethoven sonata...). If he liked this track and wanted to make it his own, sampling it and putting his own vocals on top was a consequent decision. As I have stated before, there is more original input by Prince composition-wise in "U know" than in most of his cover versions (live or studio) for which he mainly just changed arrangements. It's as if people go mad just because they read the words "sample" and "Prince" in one sentence...


You're right.

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Reply #408 posted 09/02/14 8:37am

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thedoorkeeper said:

I'm surprised so many people have a problem with autotune - he has used it in the past. He has been doing vocal manipulation since the eighties.No body seemed to have any problems with his Camille voice. confused

Typically when I've heard auto tune it is to enhance someone's voice that can't quite hack it. Just because he's used it before doesn't mean it neccessarily worked, it may have for some, but I'd prefer the songs w/o, because it's super lame in my opinion. The camille voice seems more like an alter ego than a voice enhancement, just my pov. Seems like he's trying to keep up w/ the trends rather than set them, but it looks like the days of him trend setting are long & gone with the exception of his live performances.

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Reply #409 posted 09/02/14 8:39am

Nikkie

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This is comparable: http://www.whosampled.com...'s-Rap-II/

Ike's Rap II by Isaac Hayes was used as the backing track for Portishead's Glory Box (and also by Tricky's lesser known Hell is round the corner).

Nothing 'creative' was done with the original sample, still the result is great.

I'm liking the Prince one too!
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Reply #410 posted 09/02/14 8:44am

lwr001

stillwaiting said:

ThirdStrike said:

That's my point though. You brought up "Incense & Candles". Sure, us "old heads" are almost nauseated by the very thought of trend following in the form of his use of auto-tune on "U Know". And I would almost agree (if that) with "Incense & Candles" my then 12 year old daughter was really digging that song because it sounded current and hip. Sure, maybe it's not what we think of in terms of what constitues quality music. But the benefit of the exposure to a broader audience by its use cannot be ignored. Not sure if you'd agree, but I thought that was kind of cool to see. Younger consumers being exposed to P's music through the use of contemporary styles and practices. Again, the positive may (reluctantly in this case at least) outweigh the negative with this latest release. Just my 2 cents...

"broader audience?" Really? Songs by 56 years olds get almost no audience. If they don't capture the over 35 mindset, or really over 40 mindset, they get lost in the shuffle. "Fallinlove2nite" was not as bad as people say, but it had the sounds of modern pop fluff and went NOWHERE. U Know is NOT going to be the slightest hit, so there is no "broader audience."

know many dj's and radio programmeds who will add this to the rotation,.,fits in perfectly with any thing on the radio today,,,,

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Reply #411 posted 09/02/14 8:45am

lwr001

2elijah said:

paulludvig said:

Yeah I don't understand why people still bother to peddle that absurd myth.

I hear you, as though W&L introduced Prince to music altogether, when he was making music long before they showed up.lol Anyway, I actually like the beat of this song but could do without the autotune, and the annoying 'uh huh, uh huh'. I actually like this song better than that track 'clouds'.

exactly, his dad was a jazz musician...but W&L introduced him to MIles,,, GTFOH

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Reply #412 posted 09/02/14 8:50am

TheEnglishGent

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Militant said:

The Guardian (for my money, the best newspaper in the UK) says that "U Know" is "a dazzling future soul groove" and "a return to form".


WHAT?!

It's ok, I'm only 1.5 miles from The Guardians office, I can go get this sorted out immediately. lol

RIP sad
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Reply #413 posted 09/02/14 8:51am

dadeepop

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pantoufle said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Eye like that prince is embracing his rnb/funk roots again! Reminding peeps of the BLACK artist that he is!!!! biggrin


is that what you see confused

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My thoughts exactly. Certain kinds of racism are perfectly acceptable in today's politically correct world.

"The password is what."
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Reply #414 posted 09/02/14 8:53am

EroticDreamer

ThirdStrike said:

EroticDreamer said:

Thanks but I can't figure out how to dl them, it's grayed out and says preordered so there's no option to purchase or dl now. sad

Worked for me. Just went back in to the iTunes store, and then when I clicked on the link for "AOA" and "PE", it gave m options to DL both tracks (for $1.29/each...which went against the pre-order total and adjusted it down if I wanted to complete the pre-order). Try it again. Maybe it didn't refresh on your machine...

Thank you, I got them.

After many listens, I still go back n forth with 'U Know'.

At the 0:47 mark when he says "oh no he didn't"........ ugh. That phase and delivery came from the same mind that composed 'Anastesia' and many of the most profound songs of all time?!

I need a shower after hearing that line.

There is something almost hypnotic to the sound of 'U Know', to me. It's when I disect the parts and pieces that I raise an eyevbrow and ask myself 'what is he doin' here?'.

Overall it's just not, right or wrong of me, what I was expecting or hoping for.

3121, Lotus, and MPL all surprised me in a good way, AOA- not yet.

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Reply #415 posted 09/02/14 8:56am

KCOOLMUZIQ

This site is too damn analytical. Its just a song! Not a prevention of an Iraq bombing !

rolleyes

Eye like how Warners & prince are unveiling new cuts every week! Right until the unleashing of this complete "MasterPiece"!!!!!

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #416 posted 09/02/14 8:59am

SirComeSpectio
n

lwr001 said:

2elijah said:

paulludvig said: I hear you, as though W&L introduced Prince to music altogether, when he was making music long before they showed up.lol Anyway, I actually like the beat of this song but could do without the autotune, and the annoying 'uh huh, uh huh'. I actually like this song better than that track 'clouds'.

exactly, his dad was a jazz musician...but W&L introduced him to MIles,,, GTFOH

Why on earth would either of you want to come in here with common sense?

U know?

Pop music is becoming the all purpose, non purpose music of the ages.
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Reply #417 posted 09/02/14 9:00am

Pentacle

ufoclub said:

nayroo2002 said:

The entire groove of "Gett Off" is a looped sample directly lifted from EnVogue's "Hold On".

.

Hmmm...

[Edited 9/2/14 8:10am]


Again, it wasn't lifted (as in sampled).

This groove just isn't that original. Prince made it more interesting with the background vocals weaving in and out, and the breaks.

Stop the Prince Apologists ™
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Reply #418 posted 09/02/14 9:02am

Pentacle

SirComeSpection said:

lwr001 said:

exactly, his dad was a jazz musician...but W&L introduced him to MIles,,, GTFOH

Why on earth would either of you want to come in here with common sense?

U know?



But you mean the estranged father, right? Who was never home?

Stop the Prince Apologists ™
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Reply #419 posted 09/02/14 9:30am

lwr001

Pentacle said:

SirComeSpection said:

Why on earth would either of you want to come in here with common sense?

U know?



But you mean the estranged father, right? Who was never home?

yep, thats the one...lol...u funny...anyway,,got this mfer on blast through the polk audios and we jamming ..sounds hella good, head bobbin and all..

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