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Reply #270 posted 03/28/14 10:00am

KCOOLMUZIQ

funkyhead said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

It wasn't promoted to sell more. Then Prince moved on 2 Rave In2....

bloody hell KCool' stop wearing those purple tinted specs! The Rave was a total fuck up of a project, a hugley compromised album - Pince WANTED a huge hit as per Santana - the songs were awful, Clive Davis was jerked around..of course P spat his dummy out & never admitted it was his fault. P promoted the hell out of it across TV shows he would never have been seen on [Ant & Dec saturday morning kids TV FFS!!]....but the songs were shit etc. He still has not learned a damn thing...the video should be done & released before the song was avilable to buy..it really is THAT fuckin' simple. I really feel L.A. Reid / Epic & the girls in 3EG [how frustrated must THEY be!!]

I LOVE P...but my God he is crap at marketing!!..even at the most basic level!!.

You & Bart are at the extreme ends of fandom..it actually tickles me!!..both welcome BUT crazy in your own way!!

[Edited 3/28/14 9:01am]

rolleyes

Clive didn't want it 2 b a hit! Its as simple as that. Gwen's label wouldn't approve of her being used 4 "So Far So Pleased"(it was the obvious lost hit, that could have been released as a single). That would have sent the project to MEGA platinum status. Prince lost interest after that & moved on( but not without gifting his fans with a remix version later) just like Clive did. I will say the project was a waste of Prince's time! Since Clive obviously tanked it on purpose! U win some U lose some. Nothing is guaranteed as a hit in the muziq industry anyway.

How much more video do U want of Prince?! Then a half hour sitcom of Prince on a future Emmy award winning per4mance! U can even download the appearance from "New Girls" on Itunes. The song is doing just fine on the charts without a video. In barely almost three weeks its about to crack the top 40! Then Prince can add another top 10 hit to his belt. lol

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #271 posted 03/28/14 10:10am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

funkyhead said:

bloody hell KCool' stop wearing those purple tinted specs! The Rave was a total fuck up of a project, a hugley compromised album - Pince WANTED a huge hit as per Santana - the songs were awful, Clive Davis was jerked around..of course P spat his dummy out & never admitted it was his fault. P promoted the hell out of it across TV shows he would never have been seen on [Ant & Dec saturday morning kids TV FFS!!]....but the songs were shit etc. He still has not learned a damn thing...the video should be done & released before the song was avilable to buy..it really is THAT fuckin' simple. I really feel L.A. Reid / Epic & the girls in 3EG [how frustrated must THEY be!!]

I LOVE P...but my God he is crap at marketing!!..even at the most basic level!!.

You & Bart are at the extreme ends of fandom..it actually tickles me!!..both welcome BUT crazy in your own way!!

[Edited 3/28/14 9:01am]

rolleyes

Clive didn't want it 2 b a hit! Its as simple as that. Gwen's label wouldn't approve of her being used 4 "So Far So Pleased"(it was the obvious lost hit, that could have been released as a single). That would have sent the project to MEGA platinum status. Prince lost interest after that & moved on( but not without gifting his fans with a remix version later) just like Clive did. I will say the project was a waste of Prince's time! Since Clive obviously tanked it on purpose! U win some U lose some. Nothing is guaranteed as a hit in the muziq industry anyway.

How much more video do U want of Prince?! Then a half hour sitcom of Prince on a future Emmy award winning per4mance! U can even download the appearance from "New Girls" on Itunes. The song is doing just fine on the charts without a video. In barely almost three weeks its about to crack the top 40! Then Prince can add another top 10 hit to his belt. lol

"Clive didn't want it 2 b a hit!" Exactly, you can come on this board a million times and try to explain the clueless orgers how this industry works but nothing penetrates thick skulls.

If Clive wants your project to suceed it will if he does not it won't

The biggest mistake Prince made was working with Clive in the first place. Huge waste of time as the CD received little or no promotion out of the gate.

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Reply #272 posted 03/28/14 10:16am

lwr001

laurarichardson said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

rolleyes

Clive didn't want it 2 b a hit! Its as simple as that. Gwen's label wouldn't approve of her being used 4 "So Far So Pleased"(it was the obvious lost hit, that could have been released as a single). That would have sent the project to MEGA platinum status. Prince lost interest after that & moved on( but not without gifting his fans with a remix version later) just like Clive did. I will say the project was a waste of Prince's time! Since Clive obviously tanked it on purpose! U win some U lose some. Nothing is guaranteed as a hit in the muziq industry anyway.

How much more video do U want of Prince?! Then a half hour sitcom of Prince on a future Emmy award winning per4mance! U can even download the appearance from "New Girls" on Itunes. The song is doing just fine on the charts without a video. In barely almost three weeks its about to crack the top 40! Then Prince can add another top 10 hit to his belt. lol

"Clive didn't want it 2 b a hit!" Exactly, you can come on this board a million times and try to explain the clueless orgers how this industry works but nothing penetrates thick skulls.

If Clive wants your project to suceed it will if he does not it won't

The biggest mistake Prince made was working with Clive in the first place. Huge waste of time as the CD received little or no promotion out of the gate.

I agree, With that , in business as in life, sometimes things work out, sometiomes they dont. TClive and Prince still respect each other. Prince was Clives GOH at one of hois Grammy Balls several years ago...after the Rave fiasco

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Reply #273 posted 03/28/14 10:45am

linus4000

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The main reason was that the "greatest romance ever sold" did not became the hit Clive and Prince

wanted ....

Wrong single choice!

Rave did not sell that bad with half a million in the US, but it was not a real success, that`s true...

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Reply #274 posted 03/28/14 10:49am

KCOOLMUZIQ

laurarichardson said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

rolleyes

Clive didn't want it 2 b a hit! Its as simple as that. Gwen's label wouldn't approve of her being used 4 "So Far So Pleased"(it was the obvious lost hit, that could have been released as a single). That would have sent the project to MEGA platinum status. Prince lost interest after that & moved on( but not without gifting his fans with a remix version later) just like Clive did. I will say the project was a waste of Prince's time! Since Clive obviously tanked it on purpose! U win some U lose some. Nothing is guaranteed as a hit in the muziq industry anyway.

How much more video do U want of Prince?! Then a half hour sitcom of Prince on a future Emmy award winning per4mance! U can even download the appearance from "New Girls" on Itunes. The song is doing just fine on the charts without a video. In barely almost three weeks its about to crack the top 40! Then Prince can add another top 10 hit to his belt. lol

"Clive didn't want it 2 b a hit!" Exactly, you can come on this board a million times and try to explain the clueless orgers how this industry works but nothing penetrates thick skulls.

If Clive wants your project to suceed it will if he does not it won't

The biggest mistake Prince made was working with Clive in the first place. Huge waste of time as the CD received little or no promotion out of the gate.

nod

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #275 posted 03/28/14 11:18am

SoulAlive

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

funkyhead said:

bloody hell KCool' stop wearing those purple tinted specs! The Rave was a total fuck up of a project, a hugley compromised album - Pince WANTED a huge hit as per Santana - the songs were awful, Clive Davis was jerked around..of course P spat his dummy out & never admitted it was his fault. P promoted the hell out of it across TV shows he would never have been seen on [Ant & Dec saturday morning kids TV FFS!!]....but the songs were shit etc. He still has not learned a damn thing...the video should be done & released before the song was avilable to buy..it really is THAT fuckin' simple. I really feel L.A. Reid / Epic & the girls in 3EG [how frustrated must THEY be!!]

I LOVE P...but my God he is crap at marketing!!..even at the most basic level!!.

You & Bart are at the extreme ends of fandom..it actually tickles me!!..both welcome BUT crazy in your own way!!

rolleyes

Clive didn't want it 2 b a hit! Its as simple as that. Gwen's label wouldn't approve of her being used 4 "So Far So Pleased"(it was the obvious lost hit, that could have been released as a single). That would have sent the project to MEGA platinum status. Prince lost interest after that & moved on( but not without gifting his fans with a remix version later) just like Clive did. I will say the project was a waste of Prince's time! Since Clive obviously tanked it on purpose! U win some U lose some. Nothing is guaranteed as a hit in the muziq industry anyway.

Rave wasn't a hit for several reasons.The first single was a snoozefest and Prince was late with the video.Another reason is that (let's face it),the album just wasn't very good.It was a lame attempt to do what Santana did with Supernatural,but that strategy didn't work for Prince.

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Reply #276 posted 03/28/14 11:24am

lwr001

I dont buy the argument that business' dont want to recoup their losses or advances and purposely tank a project..They may hinder a project if its coming up on a benchmark where payments need to be made but to tank it from the start and eat a loss; dont buy it

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Reply #277 posted 03/28/14 11:35am

SoulAlive

So,Clive gives Prince $11 million just for the fun of it? rolleyes He wanted the album to fail,right? That makes no sense.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

rolleyes

Clive didn't want it 2 b a hit! Its as simple as that.

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Reply #278 posted 03/28/14 11:43am

RodeoSchro

KCOOLMUZIQ said: blackbob said: why are his videos always too late ?.. lol ...ffs.. Did U know Prince is per4ming a lot lately? Did U know he has 2 bands 2 feed?? rolleyes Eye would want my new song 2 b getting airplay and hit status b4 Eye waste my money on a video. Wouldn't U????? No, because by that time it would be too late to write, produce, film, edit and distribute the video. The song would already be on a downward projectory by the time the video came out. This is especially true in Prince's case because like you said, he is quite busy.I would either have the video ready to go with the song; throw out a quickly-done live video for the song; or just not do a video at all.
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Reply #279 posted 03/28/14 11:58am

lwr001

SoulAlive said:

So,Clive gives Prince $11 million just for the fun of it? rolleyes He wanted the album to fail,right? That makes no sense.

thank you..

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Reply #280 posted 03/28/14 12:04pm

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SoulAlive said:

So,Clive gives Prince $11 million just for the fun of it? rolleyes He wanted the album to fail,right? That makes no sense.

Exactly!

...and Prince was not happy about it's failure, either, and placed the blame at Clive's feet. There was even a post on Prince's website at the time about them needing to make good on the promise to send a single to the top of the charts when a promo of Man'O'War was sent to radio, IIRC.

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Reply #281 posted 03/28/14 12:31pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

SoulAlive said:

So,Clive gives Prince $11 million just for the fun of it? rolleyes He wanted the album to fail,right? That makes no sense.

rolleyes

Clive was ousted from Arista not long after Rave was released! Now Prince is doing business with Clive's then replacement LA REID! Who has managed NOW to do more with one single, than Clive did with an whole album handed to him by Prince. Case closed!!!!

The $11.million U talking is very debatable......

[Edited 3/28/14 12:46pm]

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #282 posted 03/28/14 2:02pm

jeidee

[img:$uid]http://imgur.com/tCp90.gif[/img:$uid]

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Reply #283 posted 03/28/14 2:51pm

SoulAlive

jtfolden said:

SoulAlive said:

So,Clive gives Prince $11 million just for the fun of it? rolleyes He wanted the album to fail,right? That makes no sense.

Exactly!

...and Prince was not happy about it's failure, either, and placed the blame at Clive's feet. There was even a post on Prince's website at the time about them needing to make good on the promise to send a single to the top of the charts when a promo of Man'O'War was sent to radio, IIRC.

nod

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Reply #284 posted 03/28/14 2:55pm

SoulAlive

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SoulAlive said:

So,Clive gives Prince $11 million just for the fun of it? rolleyes He wanted the album to fail,right? That makes no sense.

rolleyes

Clive was ousted from Arista not long after Rave was released! Now Prince is doing business with Clive's then replacement LA REID! Who has managed NOW to do more with one single, than Clive did with an whole album handed to him by Prince. Case closed!!!!

The $11.million U talking is very debatable......

Stop making excuses lol Rave flopped because it just wasn't a strong album and the wrong first single was chosen.Prince is a notoriously difficult person to work with,especially back then when he was still very 'anti-record company'.

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Reply #285 posted 03/28/14 3:12pm

Bambi82

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jeidee said:

[img:$uid]http://imgur.com/tCp90.gif[/img:$uid]

I hollered! lol

Everybody stop on the 1...GOOD GOD! Uhh!
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Reply #286 posted 03/28/14 4:18pm

cryndove

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SONG CHARTS : LEADERS
Mediabase

PRINCE FALLINLOVE2NITE f/Z. Deschanel

67 54 PRINCE FALLINLOVE2NITE f/Z. Deschanel 304 183 121 0.587

Epic
lw: Mar 14 - Mar 20 TW: Mar 21 - Mar 27
StationMarketFormatTWlwMoveovnammidpmeveAud
X003-FM >SiriusXM Top 40 44 0 44 11 7 10 6 10 0
KLJT-FM Tyler, TX Top 40 23 11 12 15 1 2 0 5 0.018
WXYK-FM Biloxi Top 40 21 6 15 21 0 0 0 0 0.013
KLCA-FM Reno, NV Top 40 15 10 5 7 1 1 3 3 0.013
WIXX-FM Appleton, WI Top 40 13 2 11 7 1 0 0 5 0.042
WNKS-FM Charlotte Top 40 13 21 -8 11 0 0 0 2 0.03
WVYB-FM Daytona Beach Top 40 12 7 5 9 0 0 0 3 0.007
WXZO-FM Burlington, VT Top 40 12 1 11 5 2 0 3 2 0.003
KFRH-FM Las Vegas Top 40 11 4 7 7 1 1 0 2 0.023
WXXX-FM Burlington, VT Top 40 11 2 9 11 0 0 0 0 0.007
KDWB-FM Minneapolis Top 40 9 4 5 3 1 3 1 1 0.149
WNOU-FM Indianapolis Top 40 9 20 -11 0 1 2 0 6 0.038
KRCK-FM Palm Springs, CA Top 40 9 4 5 5 0 1 0 3 0.009
WAYV-FM Atlantic City, N Top 40 9 0 9 9 0 0 0 0 0.003
KCDU-FM Monterey-Salinas Top 40 7 1 6 7 0 0 0 0 0.002
KKPN-FM Corpus Christi, Top 40 7 2 5 7 0 0 0 0 0.001
WPIA-FM Peoria, IL Top 40 7 1 6 7 0 0 0 0 0.003
KSAS-FM Boise, ID Top 40 7 0 7 7 0 0 0 0 0.004
WKZL-FM Greensboro Top 40 7 0 7 7 0 0 0 0 0.006
WQEN-FM Birmingham Top 40 7 6 1 6 0 0 0 1 0.007
  • LEGEND:
  • TW: Spins this week
  • lw: Spins last week
  • ovn: Overnight
  • Aud: Audience in millions

[Edited 3/28/14 16:45pm]

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Reply #287 posted 03/28/14 4:21pm

cryndove

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SONG CHARTS : LEADERS
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PRINCE FALLINLOVE2NITE f/Z. Deschanel

Epic
lw: Mar 14 - Mar 20 TW: Mar 21 - Mar 27
StationMarketFormatTWlwMoveovnammidpmeveAud
WXIS-FM Johnson City Rhythmic 49 13 36 14 1 13 8 13 0.046
WOCQ-FM Salisbury, MD Rhythmic 13 3 10 9 1 0 0 3 0.01
KZFM-FM Corpus Christi, Rhythmic 12 5 7 12 0 0 0 0 0.005
WZBZ-FM Atlantic City, N Rhythmic 12 3 9 12 0 0 0 0 0.001
KBLZ-FM Tyler, TX Rhythmic 8 2 6 7 0 0 0 1 0.006
  • LEGEND:
  • TW: Spins this week
  • lw: Spins last week
  • ovn: Overnight
  • Aud: Audience in millions
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Reply #288 posted 03/28/14 4:23pm

cryndove

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SONG CHARTS : LEADERS
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PRINCE FALLINLOVE2NITE f/Z. Deschanel

Epic
lw: Mar 14 - Mar 20 TW: Mar 21 - Mar 27
StationMarketFormatTWlwMoveovnammidpmeveAud
MCUA-FM >Music Choice Urban AC 18 37 -19 1 1 6 5 5 0
WAKB-FM Augusta, GA Urban AC 15 0 15 2 1 7 2 3 0.017
WWIN-FM Baltimore Urban AC 14 6 8 6 0 6 2 0 0.164
KISX-FM Tyler, TX Urban AC 12 2 10 6 1 2 1 2 0.026
WMPZ-FM Chattanooga Urban AC 12 9 3 6 0 4 1 1 0.008
WKXI-FM Jackson, MS Urban AC 9 8 1 2 1 1 2 3 0.034
WUHT-FM Birmingham Urban AC 9 3 6 4 1 3 1 0 0.034
  • LEGEND:
  • TW: Spins this week
  • lw: Spins last week
  • ovn: Overnight
  • Aud: Audience in millions
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Reply #289 posted 03/28/14 4:24pm

cryndove

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SONG CHARTS : LEADERS
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PRINCE FALLINLOVE2NITE f/Z. Deschanel

Epic
lw: Mar 14 - Mar 20 TW: Mar 21 - Mar 27
StationMarketFormatTWlwMoveovnammidpmeveAud
KNDA-FM Corpus Christi, Urban 21 6 15 6 3 6 2 4 0.022
WFXA-FM Augusta, GA Urban 17 1 16 7 1 4 1 4 0.035
WJKS-FM Wilmington, DE Urban 14 6 8 9 0 0 0 5 0.01
WJZE-FM Toledo Urban 12 3 9 3 1 3 2 3 0.022
WZFX-FM Fayetteville, NC Urban 10 1 9 6 1 0 1 2 0.026
WJZD-FM Biloxi Urban 9 0 9 0 0 1 6 2 0.018
WJTT-FM Chattanooga Urban 9 0 9 2 0 4 3 0 0.022
KVSP-FM Oklahoma City Urban 8 0 8 5 0 0 2 1 0.023
WCCG-FM Fayetteville, NC Urban 8 9 -1 4 0 1 2 1 0.006
KBTT-FM Shreveport, LA Urban 7 2 5 7 0 0 0 0 0.005
  • LEGEND:
  • TW: Spins this week
  • lw: Spins last week
  • ovn: Overnight
  • Aud: Audience in millions
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Reply #290 posted 03/28/14 4:27pm

cryndove

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SONG CHARTS : LEADERS
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PRINCE FALLINLOVE2NITE f/Z. Deschanel

Epic
lw: Mar 14 - Mar 20 TW: Mar 21 - Mar 27
StationMarketFormatTWlwMoveovnammidpmeveAud
X025-FM >SiriusXM AC 23 16 7 6 3 5 4 5 0
  • LEGEND:
  • TW: Spins this week
  • lw: Spins last week
  • ovn: Overnight
  • Aud: Audience in millions
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Reply #291 posted 03/28/14 5:11pm

lwr001

SoulAlive said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

rolleyes

Clive was ousted from Arista not long after Rave was released! Now Prince is doing business with Clive's then replacement LA REID! Who has managed NOW to do more with one single, than Clive did with an whole album handed to him by Prince. Case closed!!!!

The $11.million U talking is very debatable......

Stop making excuses lol Rave flopped because it just wasn't a strong album and the wrong first single was chosen.Prince is a notoriously difficult person to work with,especially back then when he was still very 'anti-record company'.

well ill agree on the first part of your statement about the quality of the album i beleive he believed Clive on what the focus shoudl be going against what he would normally do..he had 11 million reasons to make that decision though..The second part not so much,, out of a 37 year career, please point me to where he really has been difficult..My sister ran defjam for years and she knows err one. pg 69 (corp precense...Carm,Lisa and Bob http://books.google.com/b...mp;f=false

with that said, most people whom i've spoken to who have worked with him say he is a very pleasant, no nonsense, professional who doesnt suffer fools kindly. he asks for what he thinks he deserves..His professionalism has never been questioned.. He has a vision and he executes on said vision for better or for worse.. In reality, his last make or break album was DM.

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Reply #292 posted 03/29/14 5:52am

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Fallinlove2nite is this week at #3 in the US Spotify viral charts with over 34000 plays...

in the UK at#3 with 19000 plays...

Globally the song is at number five at the viral chart...

I had to look what the viral chart is:

"The 50 most viral songs on Spotify this week. Updated every Tuesday, virality is determined by streams divided by shares. "

Katy Perry with dark hoers in the US in comparison is #1 with 1.9 Million plays...

http://www.spotifyartists.com/charts/

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Reply #293 posted 03/29/14 6:03am

SoulAlive

lwr001 said:

SoulAlive said:

Stop making excuses lol Rave flopped because it just wasn't a strong album and the wrong first single was chosen.Prince is a notoriously difficult person to work with,especially back then when he was still very 'anti-record company'.

well ill agree on the first part of your statement about the quality of the album i beleive he believed Clive on what the focus shoudl be going against what he would normally do..he had 11 million reasons to make that decision though..The second part not so much,, out of a 37 year career, please point me to where he really has been difficult..My sister ran defjam for years and she knows err one. pg 69 (corp precense...Carm,Lisa and Bob http://books.google.com/b...mp;f=false

with that said, most people whom i've spoken to who have worked with him say he is a very pleasant, no nonsense, professional who doesnt suffer fools kindly. he asks for what he thinks he deserves..His professionalism has never been questioned.. He has a vision and he executes on said vision for better or for worse.. In reality, his last make or break album was DM.

An insider heard an argument that Prince and Clive had,in which Clive told him "Everyone warned me about you".This was after Rave flopped,of course smile Everything is cool as long as Prince gets his way all the time,but all hell breaks lose if he is challenged,or if the project flops.He blamed Clive for the failure of Rave,but there are several other reasons for it's less-than-spectacular performance on the charts.

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Reply #294 posted 03/29/14 6:16am

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SoulAlive said:

lwr001 said:

[Edited 3/29/14 7:00am]

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Reply #295 posted 03/29/14 6:21am

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SoulAlive said:

lwr001 said:

well ill agree on the first part of your statement about the quality of the album i beleive he believed Clive on what the focus shoudl be going against what he would normally do..he had 11 million reasons to make that decision though..The second part not so much,, out of a 37 year career, please point me to where he really has been difficult..My sister ran defjam for years and she knows err one. pg 69 (corp precense...Carm,Lisa and Bob http://books.google.com/b...mp;f=false

with that said, most people whom i've spoken to who have worked with him say he is a very pleasant, no nonsense, professional who doesnt suffer fools kindly. he asks for what he thinks he deserves..His professionalism has never been questioned.. He has a vision and he executes on said vision for better or for worse.. In reality, his last make or break album was DM.

An insider heard an argument that Prince and Clive had,in which Clive told him "Everyone warned me about you".This was after Rave flopped,of course smile Everything is cool as long as Prince gets his way all the time,but all hell breaks lose if he is challenged,or if the project flops.He blamed Clive for the failure of Rave,but there are several other reasons for it's less-than-spectacular performance on the charts.

there was a number of things that went wrong with ritjf ..wrong first single choice..that song was never going to be a hit...album track at best...the video was late (again) which didnt help...the album was banned from the uk chart because they made a mess of the release...cant remember the reason for it but it never showed on the uk chart because of it..and the first single came out after the album released in the uk as well..

and..of course..the album wasnt very good..apart from a couple of great tracks..as per normal for his albums in the last 20 years..it was just a mess from start to finish..

the late 90s was the worst period in his career for me...the personnel tragedy he suffered knocked him badly i think (as you would expect) and he seemed a bit lost to me during these years...he started recovering with the rainbow children and then 2004 he got back to being something like his old self with the hugely successful musicology tour..

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Reply #296 posted 03/29/14 7:05am

lwr001

SoulAlive said:

lwr001 said:

well ill agree on the first part of your statement about the quality of the album i beleive he believed Clive on what the focus shoudl be going against what he would normally do..he had 11 million reasons to make that decision though..The second part not so much,, out of a 37 year career, please point me to where he really has been difficult..My sister ran defjam for years and she knows err one. pg 69 (corp precense...Carm,Lisa and Bob http://books.google.com/b...mp;f=false

with that said, most people whom i've spoken to who have worked with him say he is a very pleasant, no nonsense, professional who doesnt suffer fools kindly. he asks for what he thinks he deserves..His professionalism has never been questioned.. He has a vision and he executes on said vision for better or for worse.. In reality, his last make or break album was DM.

An insider heard an argument that Prince and Clive had,in which Clive told him "Everyone warned me about you".This was after Rave flopped,of course smile Everything is cool as long as Prince gets his way all the time,but all hell breaks lose if he is challenged,or if the project flops.He blamed Clive for the failure of Rave,but there are several other reasons for it's less-than-spectacular performance on the charts.

so like he had an argument with Clive..You literally have one instance out of a 37 year career..Who said Clive was correct though? He is not the guy record companies or promotors are going to worry about being on drugs, bveing in jail and having an unruly crew..Whatever he may do pales in comaprrison to artist brandishing weapons on execs, not meeting commits cuz of rehab etc..THE business will always have a spot for him because unlike others he is an ultra rare talent..No debate needed

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Reply #297 posted 03/29/14 7:53am

Aerogram

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Hey guys, here's an idea: discuss Rave and "Clyde" in your own special thread so we all get to the bottom of this important matter.

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Reply #298 posted 03/29/14 7:57am

lwr001

Aerogram said:

Hey guys, here's an idea: discuss Rave and "Clyde" in your own special thread so we all get to the bottom of this important matter.

touche, we do liek going off on tangent here on the org..lol

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Reply #299 posted 03/29/14 9:27am

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lwr001 said:

Aerogram said:

Hey guys, here's an idea: discuss Rave and "Clyde" in your own special thread so we all get to the bottom of this important matter.

touche, we do liek going off on tangent here on the org..lol


Really? lol

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