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Reply #210 posted 07/28/13 8:16am

Stymie

KCOOLMUZIQ said:



1725topp said:




AFine1 said:


1725topp said: Can you point out to me where Prince has said he does not "allow" fans to tweet what goes on in the chat room, or have a cartoon image of themselves wearing a symbol necklace that is sold at every concert and for which Prince has profited?

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Selective or feigned nativity will get you nowhere. Over the years Prince has made it clear that he is overly--often insanely--protective of his imaging, regardless to how fans feel about it. So, Prince has made it clear that anything that the thinks may come close to infringement will be attacked. That's doesn't mean that fans can't be upset if they think Prince has crossed the line, but at this juncture in history you can't be surprised. And, for me, the best thing to do is to accept that this dude is overly protective of his imaging and promotion, not engage in any use of his imaging, and just enjoy what work from him that I enjoy.




Eye have to agree with U! Even though Eye'm not participating in this "save Serpan" crap. It just needs to STOP! Prince has finally created a site 4 fans to have fun & participate in. Then here they go again! They can't wait to find something to crucify Prince & tear him apart about. EYE'M SICK OF IT!



Serpan CROSSED THE LINE! Was scolded about it & told it won't be tolerated anymore.This is Prince image & legacy, that he owns and built for almost 40 years! Obey his wishes & MOVE ON! Before Prince shuts 3EG down. We already have Dr fnb that Prince hand picked. Embrace him! Stop being so ungrateful! Serpan is not or will ever be Prince's publicty agent. Dr Fnb is the man Prince picked 4 his die hards. GET OVER IT!





Also Eye don't care if Eye'm torn to shreds here. Eye already have everything Eye want in my life,


Eye don't need any of your acceptance. Eye sleep well at night.. giggle

a perfect example of the type of fan I am sure Prince doesn't want.
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Reply #211 posted 07/28/13 8:19am

errant

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The Prince vs. his fans saga continues.

This has been going on since 1997.

I think he might actually be retarded. No joke.
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #212 posted 07/28/13 8:19am

lwr001

1725topp said:

SpiritOtter said:

1725topp,

I agree in almost every respect with your line of thought. So, thank you for your contribution.

I must add, though, that from a relational perspective, Prince's representative's tone, approach and level of professionalism leaves a lot to be desired. Unfortunately, regardless of whether Prince's represenative is in fact - and objectively - "right" about Prince's stance, copyright and the law, the execution of that representative's communication strategy was so poor, that it comes across as amateur. Furthermore, it comes across as condescending. Whilst these are subjective viewpoints, the reality is that the objective stance effectively loses ground and goodwill by the consequences of a subjective backlash. A professional and sensitive handling of communication and PR issues should surely be utilised, especially when one is (it would appear) trying to reach out to a community, as Prince is clearly trying to do here via this channel i.e. to build a relationship with his customer base (fans). Perhaps, there appears to be a strong response to the represenative (and, by default, Prince) because they do not understand the relational dynamic, but I actually think the issue is less about a lack of understanding and more about an inability to conduct an operation professionally. I genuinely believe these types of relationship building issues should be handled by a professional team. Yet these types of PR mistakes have been happening for over a decade. For the commonplace fan, I imagine it becomes difficult to respect the line, when the line drawn has been consistenly done without (it would appear) any genuine degree of relational sensitivity and discernable judgement. Whilst your points are effectively "correct" from almost every respect, it seems you have failed to understand the biggest point: emotion.

Of course, I could be wrong.

.

[Edited 7/27/13 14:38pm]

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I don't deny that it could have been handled better by Prince or his "team," but if someone has been telling you--the fans in general and not Serpan--not to do something and you consistently do it, then how else do you expect them to react? If I touch a hot stove after I was told not to touch it and get burned, whose fault is that really? And, yes, I don't understand the "emotion" of it all when someone has made it clear what they want and don't want from their fans. After this has been made clear, it just becomes time to "move on" or find an artist that wants the same relationship with one's fans that the fan desires to have.

Really.. Prince has no legal ground to really stand on which is why they went the bullying role. Serpans twitter is only repurposing content which was already created. its the quid pro quo if twitter. They can't dictate the terms and conditions of that. I've never been really disgusted by any conversations before yet that exchange showed just how young and stupid his team is.. As far as the synmbol , i would have claimed fair use under parody as that is exactly what they've become; a parody of their old selves.. I would force them to litigate..I'm sure a good law firm would take the case pro bono as it would create case law once and for all on the subject.

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Reply #213 posted 07/28/13 8:23am

thedance

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errant said:

The Prince vs. his fans saga continues. This has been going on since 1997. I think he might actually be retarded. No joke.

^ Yeah, this might be true, Prince might be retarded:

Prince's actions against the Controversy fanzine, Princefamily Newsletter, Uptown.se and of course Housequake.com...

Those actions makes NO sense to me, that's his most dedicated fanbase.. rolleyes

Prince 4Ever. heart
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Reply #214 posted 07/28/13 8:23am

BobGeorge909

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lwr001 said:



1725topp said:




SpiritOtter said:




1725topp,



I agree in almost every respect with your line of thought. So, thank you for your contribution.



I must add, though, that from a relational perspective, Prince's representative's tone, approach and level of professionalism leaves a lot to be desired. Unfortunately, regardless of whether Prince's represenative is in fact - and objectively - "right" about Prince's stance, copyright and the law, the execution of that representative's communication strategy was so poor, that it comes across as amateur. Furthermore, it comes across as condescending. Whilst these are subjective viewpoints, the reality is that the objective stance effectively loses ground and goodwill by the consequences of a subjective backlash. A professional and sensitive handling of communication and PR issues should surely be utilised, especially when one is (it would appear) trying to reach out to a community, as Prince is clearly trying to do here via this channel i.e. to build a relationship with his customer base (fans). Perhaps, there appears to be a strong response to the represenative (and, by default, Prince) because they do not understand the relational dynamic, but I actually think the issue is less about a lack of understanding and more about an inability to conduct an operation professionally. I genuinely believe these types of relationship building issues should be handled by a professional team. Yet these types of PR mistakes have been happening for over a decade. For the commonplace fan, I imagine it becomes difficult to respect the line, when the line drawn has been consistenly done without (it would appear) any genuine degree of relational sensitivity and discernable judgement. Whilst your points are effectively "correct" from almost every respect, it seems you have failed to understand the biggest point: emotion.



Of course, I could be wrong.



.


[Edited 7/27/13 14:38pm]



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I don't deny that it could have been handled better by Prince or his "team," but if someone has been telling you--the fans in general and not Serpan--not to do something and you consistently do it, then how else do you expect them to react? If I touch a hot stove after I was told not to touch it and get burned, whose fault is that really? And, yes, I don't understand the "emotion" of it all when someone has made it clear what they want and don't want from their fans. After this has been made clear, it just becomes time to "move on" or find an artist that wants the same relationship with one's fans that the fan desires to have.






Really.. Prince has no legal ground to really stand on which is why they went the bullying role. Serpans twitter is only repurposing content which was already created. its the quid pro quo if twitter. They can't dictate the terms and conditions of that. I've never been really disgusted by any conversations before yet that exchange showed just how young and stupid his team is.. As far as the synmbol , i would have claimed fair use under parody as that is exactly what they've become; a parody of their old selves.. I would force them to litigate..I'm sure a good law firm would take the case pro bono as it would create case law once and for all on the subject.





Sure. One could do that.

One could also force their parents to go through the actual legal eviction process when they are asked to move out.
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Reply #215 posted 07/28/13 8:26am

SpiritOtter

1725topp said:

SpiritOtter said:

1725topp,

I agree in almost every respect with your line of thought. So, thank you for your contribution.

I must add, though, that from a relational perspective, Prince's representative's tone, approach and level of professionalism leaves a lot to be desired. Unfortunately, regardless of whether Prince's represenative is in fact - and objectively - "right" about Prince's stance, copyright and the law, the execution of that representative's communication strategy was so poor, that it comes across as amateur. Furthermore, it comes across as condescending. Whilst these are subjective viewpoints, the reality is that the objective stance effectively loses ground and goodwill by the consequences of a subjective backlash. A professional and sensitive handling of communication and PR issues should surely be utilised, especially when one is (it would appear) trying to reach out to a community, as Prince is clearly trying to do here via this channel i.e. to build a relationship with his customer base (fans). Perhaps, there appears to be a strong response to the represenative (and, by default, Prince) because they do not understand the relational dynamic, but I actually think the issue is less about a lack of understanding and more about an inability to conduct an operation professionally. I genuinely believe these types of relationship building issues should be handled by a professional team. Yet these types of PR mistakes have been happening for over a decade. For the commonplace fan, I imagine it becomes difficult to respect the line, when the line drawn has been consistenly done without (it would appear) any genuine degree of relational sensitivity and discernable judgement. Whilst your points are effectively "correct" from almost every respect, it seems you have failed to understand the biggest point: emotion.

Of course, I could be wrong.

.

[Edited 7/27/13 14:38pm]

*

I don't deny that it could have been handled better by Prince or his "team," but if someone has been telling you--the fans in general and not Serpan--not to do something and you consistently do it, then how else do you expect them to react? If I touch a hot stove after I was told not to touch it and get burned, whose fault is that really? And, yes, I don't understand the "emotion" of it all when someone has made it clear what they want and don't want from their fans. After this has been made clear, it just becomes time to "move on" or find an artist that wants the same relationship with one's fans that the fan desires to have.

True.

*

I guess I have focussed on the first bolded part of your response and you have focussed on the majority part of your response afterwards. I am advocating for a professional - top tier - support service for an artist of Prince's stature, for his benefit, and you would appear to be effectively saying, "Guys, just get out of the way; this is leading nowhere pleasant for you." From the perspective of realism, I think you are right. From the perspective of idealism, I think the approach of a professional team offers a better solution for all parties. It's just good business practice.

*

As one party has already effectively stated above, the cultural transmission of values within an organisational entity comes from the top which, in this case, means Prince. Like many of us, I would prefer Prince to act like the world-class artist that he can be, and with values that I can respect, as I think he has the potential to be that person (as clearly evidenced by his own spiritual journey). I recognise that in the complex world of legal issues and celebrity, a co-ordinated PR and communication efforts professionally delivered accurately and sensitively in an antagonistic and hostile marketplace has the potential to create a world of difference in terms of customer service and experience, leading to brand loyalty at scale i.e. not just Kcool, and his enthusiastic masterpiece/oral skills, bless him.

*

Ironically, I think it is safe to conclude that Prince wants the brand loyalty at scale, but does not recognise that, in order to achieve this, his operations need to provide the level of "customer relationship management" to merit that power e.g. Apple enjoys the benefit of brand loyalty at scale; the ethos of their customer service management is quite different to Prince's, however. Unfortunately, what Prince's operations have provided (at the worst of times) seems to trigger fractured, almost schizotypal, responses (even when a relatively minor infringement occurs). It is apparent to me, therefore, that there is a potentially greater requirement for a professional team to be working alongside Prince, not least of all for his own safety. He is a celebrity afterall, and unlike Apple's products, Prince has fans of all "make ups", psychologically speaking.

*

A timely response from a professional team could read along the lines, "Dear All, As some of you may be aware, Prince is attempting to create a fan experience with the use of the Livestream service, which he is excited to share with you. Alongside using other social media outlets, we are hoping to create a sense of fun and reward for those of you wish to follow Prince's artistic journey this year. We are aware that a member of the fan community was recently approached for potentially inappropriate copyright use. Unfortunately, the manner in which this message was delivered was informal and we would like to apologise for any negative effects of this method of communication. Clearly, the issue of ownership is an important one to Prince, as he has consistently fought for his artistic rights. Please do bear with us, as we try to foster a rewarding experience for fans, whilst also ensuring that Prince's copyright remains protected. We would like to hear your views, so please do send us your opinions at info@3rdeyegirl.com."

*

Alongside the above e-mail, Prince's PR team could also send Serpan an email (one by one, every day, over a 9-day period) containing the musical files to Roadhouse Garden; an exclusive 9-song album of unreleased outtakes from 1984 that Prince was working on at the time, but subsequently moved onto other pursuits. A simple message to Serpan suggesting that he can share this 9-song album of unreleased outtakes amongst the fan community and announce it via his Twitter account would be more than welcome and create a significant positive out of an unfortunate negative. It would almost definitely breed brand loyalty, which would ultimately result in greater co-operation and respect from his fan community, not to mention sales revenues when Prince decides to release the 16-track fully fledged Roadhouse Garden album later in the year, alongside a bonus disc of outtakes from the Purple Rain era.

*

Instead, however, we have the following dialogue (edited):

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SERPAN99: So...now that I removed the symbol image 4 u, r u going after the thousands of other Prince fans who r using it as well? And have people remove symbol tattoos?

3RDEYEGIRL: we love serpan...want him 2 stay and vibe with us

3RDEYEGIRL: nope...just u serpan

3RDEYEGIRL: lol

SERPAN99: yeah...I really feel the love, I'm sure some people r njoying the vibe...until it backfires...

...

3RDEYEGIRL: bye, everybody

smilingjoe: don't forget to say sorry to serpan

3RDEYEGIRL: talk 2 Serpan...tell him we love him and want him 2 feel welcome

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Is it any wonder that the response from the Prince fan community towards Prince as a result of this representative's tone, manner and approach has been an almost unanimous: WTF?!

*

And, if that was in fact Prince (rather than his representative), then I would suggest freeing the entire Roadhouse Garden set of outtakes with artwork, as soon as that possible idea becomes irrefutable fact.

*

I could be wrong, but I just don't think JUGHEAD RELOADED will cut it at this stage in the PR game.

.

[Edited 7/28/13 8:57am]

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Reply #216 posted 07/28/13 8:27am

lwr001

BobGeorge909 said:

lwr001 said:

Really.. Prince has no legal ground to really stand on which is why they went the bullying role. Serpans twitter is only repurposing content which was already created. its the quid pro quo if twitter. They can't dictate the terms and conditions of that. I've never been really disgusted by any conversations before yet that exchange showed just how young and stupid his team is.. As far as the synmbol , i would have claimed fair use under parody as that is exactly what they've become; a parody of their old selves.. I would force them to litigate..I'm sure a good law firm would take the case pro bono as it would create case law once and for all on the subject.

Sure. One could do that. One could also force their parents to go through the actual legal eviction process when they are asked to move out.

Lets get this straight, once the information is tweeted, anyone can repurpose...He has no legal right too the tweet (prince that is). All Serp did was what the Drudge Report and Huffington Post do daily, repurpose and aggragate.

[Edited 7/28/13 8:27am]

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Reply #217 posted 07/28/13 8:30am

madison

Kcool

We don't live in prince land or prince time.. And I notice some of ur post on this website would upset prince.. So u have done the same thing that serpan has , but just haven't been blasted like he was ... Hellurrr



Dr dingleberry... Hes been wanting to always share things that are upcoming... But he always says " I can't at this time " blah blah Is he wasted or what ...
LET serpan take his job .. He can do far better than that mumbling non making any since bastard.

Prince is upset because His band and music stinks and hates to hear it from his long time die hard fans


Hannah ford is fine But I would kick her ass out of bed the next morning...third eye SMH
[Edited 7/28/13 8:33am]
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Reply #218 posted 07/28/13 8:35am

bashraka

Much respect to Serpan99. The time and energy he takes to post information about P's concerts, media apperances and photos was done out of love. Your passion for Prince's music is evident in your tweets and you always reported about Prince news with respect. I had a feeling this livestream would have a short shelf life.

It seems Prince is thrilled with the livestream for its spontaneity and from his perspective, now that its activity can be tracked easily, he may just pull the plug altogether. The same behavior Prince exhibited towards Serpan 99, he has probably shown to record company execs, former musical associates, critics, you name them. I just wish he would put the same vigor behind shutting down Twitter parody accounts or those Toure-led panel discussions about Prince as he does Serp.

3121 #1 THIS YEAR
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Reply #219 posted 07/28/13 8:36am

KCOOLMUZIQ

SpiritOtter said:

1725topp said:

*

I don't deny that it could have been handled better by Prince or his "team," but if someone has been telling you--the fans in general and not Serpan--not to do something and you consistently do it, then how else do you expect them to react? If I touch a hot stove after I was told not to touch it and get burned, whose fault is that really? And, yes, I don't understand the "emotion" of it all when someone has made it clear what they want and don't want from their fans. After this has been made clear, it just becomes time to "move on" or find an artist that wants the same relationship with one's fans that the fan desires to have.

True.

*

I guess I have focussed on the first bolded part of your response and you have focussed on the majority part of your response afterwards. I am advocating for a professional - top tier - support service for an artist of Prince's stature, for his benefit, and you would appear to be effectively saying, "Guys, just get out of the way; this is leading nowhere pleasant for you." From the perspective of realism, I think you are right. From the perspective of idealism, I think the approach of a professional team offers a better solution for all parties. It's just good business practice.

*

As one party has already effectively stated above, the cultural transmission of values within an organisational entity comes from the top which, in this case, means Prince. Like many of us, I would prefer Prince to act like the world-class artist that he can be, and with values that I can respect, as I think he has the potential to be that person (as clearly evidenced by his own spiritual journey). I recognise that in the complex world of legal issues and celebrity, a co-ordinated PR and communication efforts professionally delivered accurately and sensitively in an antagonistic and hostile marketplace has the potential to create a world of difference in terms of customer service and experience, leading to brand loyalty at scale i.e. not just Kcool, and his enthusiastic masterpiece/oral skills, bless him.

*

Ironically, I think it is safe to conclude that Prince wants the brand loyalty at scale, but does not recognise that, in order to achieve this, his operations need to provide the level of "customer relationship management" to merit that power e.g. Apple enjoys the benefit of brand loyalty at scale; the ethos of their customer service management is quite different to Prince's. Unfortunately, what Prince's operations have provided (at the worst of times) seems to trigger fractured, almost schizotypal, responses (even when a relatively minor infringement occurs). It is apparent to me, therefore, that there is a potentially greater requirement for a professional team to be working alongside Prince, not least of all for his own safety. He is a celebrity afterall, and unlike Apple's products, Prince has fans of all "make ups".

*

A simple timely response from a professional team could read along the lines, "Dear All, As some of you may be aware, Prince is attempting to create a fan experience with the use of the Livestream function, which is excited to share. Alongside using other social media outlets, we are hoping to create a sense of fun and reward, for those of you wish to follow Prince's artistic journey. We are aware that a member of the fan community was recently approached for potentially inappropriate copyright use. Unfortunately, the manner in which this message was conducted was informal and we would like to apologise for any negative effects of this types of communication. Clearly, the issue of copyright is an important one to Prince, as he has consistently foght for his artistic rights. Please do bear with us, as we are trying to foster a rewarding experience for fans, whilst also ensuring that Prince's copyright remains protected. We would like to hear your views, so please do send us your opinions at info@3rdeyegirl.com."

*

Alongside the above e-mail, Prince's operation could also send Serpan an email containing the musical files to Roadhouse Garden; an exclusive 9-song album of unreleased outtakes from 1984 that Prince was working on at the time, but subsequently moved onto other pursuits. A simple message to Serpan suggesting that he can share this 9-song album of unreleased outtakes amongst the fan community and announce it via his Twitter account would be more than welcome and create a positive out of a negative. It would breed brand loyalty, which would ultimately result in greater co-operation, respect, and sales revenues when Prince decides to release the 16-track fully fledged Roadhouse Garden album later in the year.

*

Instead, however, we have the following dialogue:

*

SERPAN99: So...now that I removed the symbol image 4 u, r u going after the thousands of other Prince fans who r using it as well? And have people remove symbol tattoos?

3RDEYEGIRL: we love serpan...want him 2 stay and vibe with us

3RDEYEGIRL: nope...just u serpan

3RDEYEGIRL: lol

SERPAN99: yeah...I really feel the love, I'm sure some people r njoying the vibe...until it backfires...

...

3RDEYEGIRL: bye, everybody

smilingjoe: don't forget to say sorry to serpan

3RDEYEGIRL: talk 2 Serpan...tell him we love him and want him 2 feel welcome

*

Is it any wonder that the response from the Prince fan community towards Prince as a result of this representative's tone, manner and approach has been an almost unanimous: WTF?!

*

And, if that was in fact Prince (rather than his representative), then I would suggest freeing the entire Roadhouse Garden set of outtakes with artwork, as soon as that idea becomes fact.

*

JUGHEAD RELOADED will just not cut it at this stage in the game.

.

[Edited 7/28/13 8:32am]

biggrin

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #220 posted 07/28/13 8:37am

thedance

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madison said:


Prince is upset because His band and music stinks and hates to hear it from his long time die hard fans

^ you might be right about THAT..!

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Reply #221 posted 07/28/13 8:41am

BobGeorge909

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lwr001 said:



BobGeorge909 said:


lwr001 said:




Really.. Prince has no legal ground to really stand on which is why they went the bullying role. Serpans twitter is only repurposing content which was already created. its the quid pro quo if twitter. They can't dictate the terms and conditions of that. I've never been really disgusted by any conversations before yet that exchange showed just how young and stupid his team is.. As far as the synmbol , i would have claimed fair use under parody as that is exactly what they've become; a parody of their old selves.. I would force them to litigate..I'm sure a good law firm would take the case pro bono as it would create case law once and for all on the subject.




Sure. One could do that. One could also force their parents to go through the actual legal eviction process when they are asked to move out.


Lets get this straight, once the information is tweeted, anyone can repurpose...He has no legal right too the tweet (prince that is). All Serp did was what the Drudge Report and Huffington Post do daily, repurpose and aggragate.

[Edited 7/28/13 8:27am]


I know. But like i was saying...you wanna go through some long drawn out legal process over some bullshit tweets.


Obviously prince cant keep serpan from tweeting...durr du durr...he can stop giving him stuff to tweet about him though.

Nothing is keeping serpan from tweeting anything other than his own fingers and a request from prince. I understand that. Im sure prince understands it as well. The whole exchange involved the word "request". Our problem is if serpan doesnt stop, prince will stop with the live streams. Id rather a livestream over serpan tweeing abouth nothing cuz the livestreams will stop if he keeps tweeting about it. Is that tacky of prince...it sure is. But its a sellers market here...aint it. I want what prince is selling more than what serpan is tweetng
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Reply #222 posted 07/28/13 8:48am

lwr001

BobGeorge909 said:

lwr001 said:

Lets get this straight, once the information is tweeted, anyone can repurpose...He has no legal right too the tweet (prince that is). All Serp did was what the Drudge Report and Huffington Post do daily, repurpose and aggragate.

[Edited 7/28/13 8:27am]

I know. But like i was saying...you wanna go through some long drawn out legal process over some bullshit tweets. Obviously prince cant keep serpan from tweeting...durr du durr...he can stop giving him stuff to tweet about him though. Nothing is keeping serpan from tweeting anything other than his own fingers and a request from prince. I understand that. Im sure prince understands it as well. The whole exchange involved the word "request". Our problem is if serpan doesnt stop, prince will stop with the live streams. Id rather a livestream over serpan tweeing abouth nothing cuz the livestreams will stop if he keeps tweeting about it. Is that tacky of prince...it sure is. But its a sellers market here...aint it. I want what prince is selling more than what serpan is tweetng

There is no long drawn out legal process to go through..Case has no merit.. You cant copyright facts. Prince is not a court or judge; he cant deem whats copyrghtable at his own pleasure. Tweets are a recitation of facts which is not protectable under copyright laws. Fuck Prince , let him stop the livestreams, he doesn't get to create the terms of service for technology in which he has no ownership

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Reply #223 posted 07/28/13 8:51am

madison

Prince contact prince.org and have them send a personal message giving them two free tickets to pasiley park and hear you jam and a meet and greet .. To the ones that have been members for ten plus years .. It would be nice ..

Never forget how u got on top of that mountain and pray those rocks quit slipping from under you
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Reply #224 posted 07/28/13 8:57am

JOYJOY

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MIRvmn said:

Stymie said:

Prince has been very vocal about protecting his copyright. i do not understand why this particular incident angers people more than the other hundreds of other times he's done this.

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I can't believe an adult wrote that exchange with Serpan.

Then he should attack EyeJester7 aswell, don't u think so?

I think its unfortunate that 3EG felt the need to be that bitchy to Serpan. But they made it VERY clear in that interaction that their issue was with Serpan and Serpan alone.. I feel bad for Serpan but get 3EG point.

3EG must have thought Serpan had got too big and the traffic that Serp bought to his site was traffic/revenue that 3EG would rather have. IMHO I think that 3EG believed Serpan had the potential to make $$ out of P, and we know how much P values $$. Serpan got off very lightly.

if and when EyeJesters following gets so big that the 3EG camp see him as a threat to P's revenue I dont doubt that he would be treated in the same way Serpan was.

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[Edited 7/28/13 10:24am]

One minute they want peace……

Then do everything to make it go away. rolleyes
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Reply #225 posted 07/28/13 8:58am

madison

JUSTICE FOR SERPAN

Every body QUIT eating purple pancakes

We will show him !



Kcool - u have posted things on this web site that prince would be upset .. So don't judge anybody
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Reply #226 posted 07/28/13 9:00am

lwr001

JOYJOY said:

MIRvmn said:

Stymie said: Then he should attack EyeJester7 aswell, don't u think so?

I think its unfortunate that 3EG felt the need to be that bitchy to Serpan. But they made it VERY clear in that interaction that their issue was with Serpan and Serpan alone.. I feel bad for Serpan but get 3EG point.

Serpan got too big and the traffic that Serp bought to his site was traffic/revenue that 3EG would rather have. 3EG believes Serpan is making $$ out of P, and we know how much P values $$. Serpan got off very lightly.

if and when EyeJesters following gets so big that the 3EG camp see him as a threat to P's revenue I dont doubt that he would be treated in the same way Serpan was.

You get their point? Points make themselves so please tell what it is.."He got off lightly"; you mfers are delusional..What is he gonna do to him that he got off lightly. do tell

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Reply #227 posted 07/28/13 9:03am

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lwr001 said:



BobGeorge909 said:


lwr001 said:



Lets get this straight, once the information is tweeted, anyone can repurpose...He has no legal right too the tweet (prince that is). All Serp did was what the Drudge Report and Huffington Post do daily, repurpose and aggragate.


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I know. But like i was saying...you wanna go through some long drawn out legal process over some bullshit tweets. Obviously prince cant keep serpan from tweeting...durr du durr...he can stop giving him stuff to tweet about him though. Nothing is keeping serpan from tweeting anything other than his own fingers and a request from prince. I understand that. Im sure prince understands it as well. The whole exchange involved the word "request". Our problem is if serpan doesnt stop, prince will stop with the live streams. Id rather a livestream over serpan tweeing abouth nothing cuz the livestreams will stop if he keeps tweeting about it. Is that tacky of prince...it sure is. But its a sellers market here...aint it. I want what prince is selling more than what serpan is tweetng



There is no long drawn out legal process to go through..Case has no merit.. You cant copyright facts. Prince is not a court or judge; he cant deem whats copyrghtable at his own pleasure. Tweets are a recitation of facts which is not protectable under copyright laws. Fuck Prince , let him stop the livestreams, he doesn't get to create the terms of service for technology in which he has no ownership


I FUCKING KNOW THAT. I just said theres isnt any way prince can keep serpan from tweeting anything he wants to...jesus.


Legally, u can call your mother a cunt and she cant do shit...legally...social pressures might keep u from doing that if u were ever so inclined to call your mother a cunt.


Jesus...said the athiest....why can peolle seem so stupid sometimes...i pray for an answer.
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Reply #228 posted 07/28/13 9:03am

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Soulstar77A said:

I expect them to react professional and with just a little bit of class!

But thats probably too much to ask for from a grumpy old and washed-up midget...

Prince is not god, this is not a sect, he's not our cult-leader! Life is no picnic!

The best part is where the compare the "symbol" to the "Coca Cola" logo wall

It's some sort of miracle that he got the copyright on this thing anyway, since it's just a plain copy of some century old alchemical symbols...

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You do realize that your overly emotional ranting makes you look like the crazy loon..right? Also, can you be reasonable enough to address one topic rather than all your neurotic rants as to why you hate Prince? Are you angry because you no longer like Prince's music, or are you angry because of the issue with Sepan? Your illogical ranting makes it difficult to determine. Also, whether or not you agree with his symbol being granted a copyright is immaterial and is just another illogical, overly emotional rant. So, let's see. You expect someone else to react with tact and class when you can't do the same, and you think that others have a problem?

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Now, allow me to restate my position, which you are missing because either you can't read or you are too emotional or illogical to comprehend. As I have stated throughout this tread, Prince could have handled this issue better, but how many times does someone have to tell you, him, me, us what he does and does not want people to do in their support of him before you, him, me, us get a clue? That's just simple logic and has nothing to do with Prince being god or this being a sect, or Prince being our cult-leader. It's about some of you overly emotional, overly delusional people who want to be connected to Prince in a way that he clearly does not want to be connected to you, him, me, or us. Or, to put it another way: He's just not that into you, him, me, us, which is cool to me because all I want is music; the rest means nothing to me. You may now continue beating your crazy ass head against the brick of your insanity.

Why do these folks keep needing Prince to be who he has shown he is not? People have been whining that Prince is an asshole for decades. It got worse with the internet because it brings the illusion of intimacy. We don't know Prince. Prince doesn't want us to really know him. Just though the music. Isn't that enough?

Prince is an artist. That is all. He is not your friend or neighbor or guru. His decisions are his to make. If you can't stand his decisions or the personality you know as Prince just move the hell on.

It is just absurd to engage Prince as it would be any other icon. They are not your friends!!!

It is very interesting all the personal insults being hurled in his direction by so-called fans. Acting all butt hurt like serpent was murdered or something. You guys are a sick bunch. I love Prince as an artist and wish the best for him but that is it. I don't feel any need to be wrapped up in outrage because he is isn't the person I want him to be.

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Reply #229 posted 07/28/13 9:04am

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madison said:

JUSTICE FOR SERPAN Every body QUIT eating purple pancakes We will show him ! Kcool - u have posted things on this web site that prince would be upset .. So don't judge anybody

I'm not boycotting anybody but I do agree with your part on KCool, especially the posts of Prince photoshopped into a cemetary.

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Reply #230 posted 07/28/13 9:06am

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. Our problem is if serpan doesnt stop, prince will stop with the live streams.

As if there would be any correlation. Prince might as well declare the internet to be dead again next week ...

"ohYeeeeeah" said: I'm a massive Bowie fan. Even on Scary Monsters, I always skip Fame ...
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Reply #231 posted 07/28/13 9:08am

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K cool. What do u have to say for urself now .. And what would prince think of u.

And u attack other people
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Reply #232 posted 07/28/13 9:12am

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Soulstar77A said:



BobGeorge909 said:


. Our problem is if serpan doesnt stop, prince will stop with the live streams.


As if there would be any correlation. Prince might as well declare the internet to be dead again next week ...



Lol...true!
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Reply #233 posted 07/28/13 9:16am

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It is very interesting all the personal insults being hurled in his direction by so-called fans. Acting all butt hurt like serpent was murdered or something. You guys are a sick bunch. I love Prince as an artist and wish the best for him but that is it. I don't feel any need to be wrapped up in outrage because he is isn't the person I want him to be.

Yet you come here and defend him when a so-called fan like me calls him a grumpy old midget. Did that really hurt your feelings so much? bawl

"ohYeeeeeah" said: I'm a massive Bowie fan. Even on Scary Monsters, I always skip Fame ...
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Reply #234 posted 07/28/13 9:31am

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Soulstar77A said:

tricky99 said:

It is very interesting all the personal insults being hurled in his direction by so-called fans. Acting all butt hurt like serpent was murdered or something. You guys are a sick bunch. I love Prince as an artist and wish the best for him but that is it. I don't feel any need to be wrapped up in outrage because he is isn't the person I want him to be.

Yet you come here and defend him when a so-called fan like me calls him a grumpy old midget. Did that really hurt your feelings so much? bawl

Unlike you I don't have the desire to defame prince because he (or his people) do things I don't like. I haven't read where Prince is calling any one out of their name. Yet you feel the need call him a midget.

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Reply #235 posted 07/28/13 9:31am

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Soulstar77A said:

tricky99 said:

It is very interesting all the personal insults being hurled in his direction by so-called fans. Acting all butt hurt like serpent was murdered or something. You guys are a sick bunch. I love Prince as an artist and wish the best for him but that is it. I don't feel any need to be wrapped up in outrage because he is isn't the person I want him to be.

Yet you come here and defend him when a so-called fan like me calls him a grumpy old midget. Did that really hurt your feelings so much? bawl

Oh come on now. Let's not allow the thread to get all hot and bothered with personal mud flinging. Please keep the discussion civil pray

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Reply #236 posted 07/28/13 9:50am

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JUSTICE FOR SERPAN

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Reply #237 posted 07/28/13 9:59am

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K cool. What do u have to say for urself now .. And what would prince think of u. And u attack other people

Prince never ordered me to take it down! If he did! Eye would do it gladly with no questions asked. Not sit there and argue with him about it! Same with the moderators here. Eye know what Eye photoshoped somebody likes it! They are always stolen and put up on other sites like Facebook.


I didn't attack anyone! Eye'm just suggesting that this is way overboard. He was asked to take it down. Move on! Don't protest Prince! Because he is protecting his image. U can say whatever U want about me. Eye don't care! But U will not attack Prince and get away with it.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #238 posted 07/28/13 10:09am

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Prince needs to show his fans respect.. Serpan didn't do anything wrong..


Oh my GOD serpan used his dumbass symbol on his website ?? Prince grow up and quit being a whiny ass baby SMH.

What did serpan do to prince that was so bad ..??

NOT A DAMN THING


It's the same old prince but now he's an Afro wearing ass clown


:tonk:


Let me give you some good advice jr/prince .. Ur music makes since to no one but ur self


I will support another artist with my ears , my support , my time and money .
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Go support fdeluxe on their pledgemusic..at least they'll appreciate it..
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Reply #239 posted 07/28/13 10:11am

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[This is not the thread to turn on another orger. You can discuss with them via orgnotes. Keep the discussion civil please - luv4u]

Sorry luv4u
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