KCOOLMUZIQ said:

BlackandRising said:

damn some of y'all are some childish mofo's. He should give you what you want? No, you have it exactly backwards, and I would imagine that this is one reason that Prince is so hardcore when it comes to bootlegs. It's not in our perview to dictate when, what, how much, etc. to release. It's his shit, period. This show is out as a boot already, and you seriously expect that a reasonable course of action for him is to release it officially to beat the bootleggers to the punch? Ridiculous.

That's right...DEMAND your right to be fucked over by Prince and given sub-stand audio tracks!

idiots.

1725topp said:

imago said:

Well, here's the deal people.

Prince is doing something I NEVER thought he'd do.

And that is offer songs for download in a pay-by-song method with no membership fee.

Threads like these would only serve to discourage the guy, and then we'd just be back

and square one--discussing bootlegs instead of new material.

Thank you for bringing me back to the most important point! I'm glad that I can purchase Prince's music so easily. This is so much better than chasing often poorly offered bootlegs across a virus filled internet.

I'm not saying chasing bootlegs isn't fun.

But posting it here on the org about these things can't be good considering

how Prince gets on a bad hair day.

imago said:

1725topp said:

Thank you for bringing me back to the most important point! I'm glad that I can purchase Prince's music so easily. This is so much better than chasing often poorly offered bootlegs across a virus filled internet.

I'm not saying chasing bootlegs isn't fun.

But posting it here on the org about these things can't be good considering

how Prince gets on a bad hair day.

If Prince is indeed monitoring this site, or has people doing so, let it be read that he has alot of people here who'd gladly pay for live shows. I'm liking the ease-of-use the new site has, and the fun of checking it every fifteen freakin' minutes to see if something new's been added. I look forward to whatever else he'll offer in the near future.

Off to check up on 3rdEyeGirl again...

[Edited 2/19/13 9:54am]

imago said:

1725topp said:

Thank you for bringing me back to the most important point! I'm glad that I can purchase Prince's music so easily. This is so much better than chasing often poorly offered bootlegs across a virus filled internet.

I'm not saying chasing bootlegs isn't fun.

But posting it here on the org about these things can't be good considering

how Prince gets on a bad hair day.

I agree with your point that people should be more mindful about how supporting or promoting bootlegs so openly on this site may not be the wisest thing to do. Additionally, unfortunately for me, chasing bootlegs used to be fun, but the older I've gotten, with more life responsibilities, chasing bootlegs is more of a pain and often not worth it whereas getting the work directly from Prince is easier for me.

PoorLonelyComputer said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

That's right...DEMAND your right to be fucked over by Prince and given sub-stand audio tracks!

idiots.

Well, it's better than wasting one's time trolling the internet for mostly sub-standard audio tracks. For every one great "soundboard," there are hundreds of crappy sounding drivel that make it not worth the effort, especially since most of the stuff, especially studio stuff, is over-hyped anyway. But, you hold on to your right to be a fool chasing an overly romanticized myth.

Right. Keep telling yourself that.

And what the fuck is an "romanticized myth"?

Oh that must be that thing YOU're chasing by believing the lie that Prince knows what he's doing, but you won't admit it to yourself, so you're projecting your issue onto me. Yeah, that must be it.

1725topp said:

PoorLonelyComputer said:

That's right...DEMAND your right to be fucked over by Prince and given sub-stand audio tracks!

idiots.

Well, it's better than wasting one's time trolling the internet for mostly sub-standard audio tracks. For every one great "soundboard," there are hundreds of crappy sounding drivel that make it not worth the effort, especially since most of the stuff, especially studio stuff, is over-hyped anyway.

[Edited 2/19/13 10:37am]

[Edited 3/9/13 10:21am]

1725topp said:

Well, it's better than wasting one's time trolling the internet for mostly sub-standard audio tracks. For every one great "soundboard," there are hundreds of crappy sounding drivel that make it not worth the effort, especially since most of the stuff, especially studio stuff, is over-hyped anyway.

PoorLonelyComputer said:

Right. Keep telling yourself that.

And what the fuck is an "romanticized myth"?

Oh that must be that thing YOU're chasing by believing the lie that Prince knows what he's doing, but you won't admit it to yourself, so you're projecting your issue onto me. Yeah, that must be it.

Dude, your head seems so far up your butt that you must be eating dinner twice. I never said anything about Prince being right. You would realize this if your eyes weren't blurred with your own issues. I said that Prince has a legal right to do with his art what he so desires, using Prince's asshole behavior as a justification to be a thief is hypocritical, and that it is easier getting direct downloads from Prince than having to chase bootlegs across a virus filled internet. So, with those statements, what can I possibly be projecting onto you but some reality, fact, and sanity. The romanticized myth or lie or delusion is that Prince must make all of his work available to his fans and that his fans have the right to have these works simply because they want them. But, again, your head seems so far up your butt that you can't smell the truth and you don’t notice the stank of your hypocrisy or delusion.

HonestMan13 said:

udo said:

Man!

If an evil bootleggar can get stuff to the streets in about two months, then why can't mr Prince get his CD's on the internet in the same time?

Take preorders to finance the operation.

Be creative!

Assuming he can't do it (which is understandable if we look at the Montreux 2009 fiasco) is giving in to mediocrity.

My point is every Prince show gets bootlegged. So is Prince supposed to "beat the bootleggers" by releasing every single show(good or bad) within weeks?

I was gonna beat a dead horse by saying that the only ones he needs to release are the ones he previews or suggests are coming, but I changed my mind about my point:

YOUR SIG IS GREAT!

"I'm your hammer, you're my nail!"

Now that's funny... I don't even care what you're saying above it. HonestMan13, you now have a pass from me--any opinion you share, I just let it go. I'll find somebody else saying the same thing and argue with them, but you're fine. Until you change your sig. But why should you--you've already got a great avatar, too.

TrevorAyer said:

riocoolnes said:

Okay he should release a video of every single concert he ever did . get real.

if pearl jam and phish can do it so can prince .. its not that hard .. bands even sell them immediately after the show so people can purchase them on the way out the door ..

Pearl Jam and Phish probably do it for the fans and not for the money.

imago said:

Well, here's the deal people.

Prince is doing something I NEVER thought he'd do.

And that is offer songs for download in a pay-by-song method with no membership fee.

Threads like these would only serve to discourage the guy, and then we'd just be back and square one--discussing bootlegs instead of new material.

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with discussing both. If he's going to get his thong stuck up his ass because some fans were discussing a bootleg of his on a fan site, then you know what? Screw him and his pay-by-song distribution method. He's from America, so he should be very well aware of the freedom to be able to discuss such works. And if this is what would set him off and cause him to clam up, then fine. He can keep his crappy new releases anyway.

castilianblue said:

imago said:

Well, here's the deal people.

Prince is doing something I NEVER thought he'd do.

And that is offer songs for download in a pay-by-song method with no membership fee.

Threads like these would only serve to discourage the guy, and then we'd just be back and square one--discussing bootlegs instead of new material.

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with discussing both. If he's going to get his thong stuck up his ass because some fans were discussing a bootleg of his on a fan site, then you know what? Screw him and his pay-by-song distribution method. He's from America, so he should be very well aware of the freedom to be able to discuss such works. And if this is what would set him off and cause him to clam up, then fine. He can keep his crappy new releases anyway.

Why dont u clam up Mr Bootlegger promotor?

BTW TTD kinda sucks..for years!!!

1725topp said:

PoorLonelyComputer said:

Right. Keep telling yourself that.

And what the fuck is an "romanticized myth"?

Oh that must be that thing YOU're chasing by believing the lie that Prince knows what he's doing, but you won't admit it to yourself, so you're projecting your issue onto me. Yeah, that must be it.

Dude, your head seems so far up your butt that you must be eating dinner twice. I never said anything about Prince being right. You would realize this if your eyes weren't blurred with your own issues. I said that Prince has a legal right to do with his art what he so desires, using Prince's asshole behavior as a justification to be a thief is hypocritical, and that it is easier getting direct downloads from Prince than having to chase bootlegs across a virus filled internet. So, with those statements, what can I possibly be projecting onto you but some reality, fact, and sanity. The romanticized myth or lie or delusion is that Prince must make all of his work available to his fans and that his fans have the right to have these works simply because they want them. But, again, your head seems so far up your butt that you can't smell the truth and you don’t notice the stank of your hypocrisy or delusion.

oh that's no myth, sweetie. That's called being a good businessman.

But of course, neither Prince (nor you) would know anything about that.

It doesn't make a difference to me if you refuse to hold Prince accountable for being a shitty businessman. I KNOW where to get my FREE bootleg downloads.

You keep on keepin on with your "integrity" while the rest of us enjoy the real deal

tsk tsk be civil on this thread folks.

Renato Neto shared this on FB.

1725topp said:

honer said:

Bullshit, thats exactly why we have boots because Prince dosnt always give us the stuff we want. Its up to him what he does but to suggest we are just gluttons is proper crap. How is wanting to listen to more of his music glutanous?! Its just called being a fan.

Prince could release all of his shows for download within a few days if he wanted to, I wish he would, its easy to do and it'd stop the bootleggers. He records all of his shows anyway he might as well release them.

It's sad that you don't realize how myopic, selfish, and immoral you are. Not that I'm not any less myopic, selfish, or immoral than you, but I don't blame others for my myopic, selfish, and immoral behavior. Your response is the equivalent of thinking it is acceptable for me to purchase a stolen big screen because I'm a big fan of big screens. It's not about what Prince could or could not do. It is his music, his legacy, his work, not yours. Maybe because I'm an artist I see it differently, but ownership means something, especially ownership of something that one creates. So, yes, you and I are fans. So what? Big deal! Is it acceptable for me to steal Prince's latest shirts or pants because I've a fan of his wardrobe? Is it acceptable for me to steal Prince's guitar because I'm a fan. A true fan respects ownership and personal rights. And if Prince's behavior causes you or anyone else to lose respect for him or like him less, stealing from him actually justifies his acting like an ass and shows you, me, and others to be hypocritical asses. So, it doesn't matter that he records all of his shows. They are his shows. Are you too simple to understand that basic point? But don't worry, when I purchase your tv and computer from the pawn shop, I'll be sure to tell the judge that I'm such a big fan of you and your tv and computer so that I will not be sentenced to jail.

Still in love with your passionate protest!

SynthiaRose said:

1725topp said:

It's sad that you don't realize how myopic, selfish, and immoral you are. Not that I'm not any less myopic, selfish, or immoral than you, but I don't blame others for my myopic, selfish, and immoral behavior. Your response is the equivalent of thinking it is acceptable for me to purchase a stolen big screen because I'm a big fan of big screens. It's not about what Prince could or could not do. It is his music, his legacy, his work, not yours. Maybe because I'm an artist I see it differently, but ownership means something, especially ownership of something that one creates. So, yes, you and I are fans. So what? Big deal! Is it acceptable for me to steal Prince's latest shirts or pants because I've a fan of his wardrobe? Is it acceptable for me to steal Prince's guitar because I'm a fan. A true fan respects ownership and personal rights. And if Prince's behavior causes you or anyone else to lose respect for him or like him less, stealing from him actually justifies his acting like an ass and shows you, me, and others to be hypocritical asses. So, it doesn't matter that he records all of his shows. They are his shows. Are you too simple to understand that basic point? But don't worry, when I purchase your tv and computer from the pawn shop, I'll be sure to tell the judge that I'm such a big fan of you and your tv and computer so that I will not be sentenced to jail.

Still in love with your passionate protest!

Thanks for the kind words.

Honestly can Prince win for losing? People keep saying here: release the music and we'll pay for it. He releases and people still sell and buy bootlegs. I'm sorry but that sucks.

Stymie said:

Honestly can Prince win for losing? People keep saying here: release the music and we'll pay for it. He releases and people still sell and buy bootlegs. I'm sorry but that sucks.

Please tell me where he released every show from the Dakota! I'd love to buy it!

Stymie said:

Honestly can Prince win for losing? People keep saying here: release the music and we'll pay for it. He releases and people still sell and buy bootlegs. I'm sorry but that sucks.

Oh, no matter what happenes, bootlegs will never stop..for one, Prince isnt going to release even one quarter of what is being booted or has been booted.

Gohi said:

Stymie said:

Honestly can Prince win for losing? People keep saying here: release the music and we'll pay for it. He releases and people still sell and buy bootlegs. I'm sorry but that sucks.

Please tell me where he released every show from the Dakota! I'd love to buy it!

I didn't say he did. And he shouldn't have to if he doesn't want to.

rdhull said:

Stymie said:

Honestly can Prince win for losing? People keep saying here: release the music and we'll pay for it. He releases and people still sell and buy bootlegs. I'm sorry but that sucks.

Oh, no matter what happenes, bootlegs will never stop..for one, Prince isnt going to release even one quarter of what is being booted or has been booted.

Yeah, I know it won't stop and i know he won't release a bunch of stuff but that's his choice. It's just sad to me, that's all.

When this comes out (and we WILL hear about it here) it will be easy to find for free. The OP has already provided all the key words needed to use a search engine to find a free copy. Thanks OP, you make it easier to get this bootleg without paying the bootlegger.

Off to see if there's anything new to BUY at 3rdeyegirl...

djThunderfunk said:

When this comes out (and we WILL hear about it here) it will be easy to find for free. The OP has already provided all the key words needed to use a search engine to find a free copy. Thanks OP, you make it easier to get this bootleg without paying the bootlegger.

Off to see if there's anything new to BUY at 3rdeyegirl...

You are referring people to bootlegs.

You are even explaining how to get to them!!!1!

That is not allowed on this site.

udo said:

djThunderfunk said:

When this comes out (and we WILL hear about it here) it will be easy to find for free. The OP has already provided all the key words needed to use a search engine to find a free copy. Thanks OP, you make it easier to get this bootleg without paying the bootlegger.

Off to see if there's anything new to BUY at 3rdeyegirl...

You are referring people to bootlegs.

You are even explaining how to get to them!!!1!

That is not allowed on this site.

I hope you're just being cheeky...

Surely what I wrote is no different than what I usually write: "Google is your friend"

Anyway, I will continue to collect free downloaded copies of bootlegs. Haven't paid for one in over 15 years (thanks computers) and won't pay for a single one. I will pay Prince if he wants to sell the same shows...

luv4u said:

tsk tsk be civil on this thread folks.

Renato Neto shared this on FB.

would have been better if "practice" was spell-checked.

Doozer said:

luv4u said:

tsk tsk be civil on this thread folks.

Renato Neto shared this on FB.

would have been better if "practice" was spell-checked.

No disrespect to Renato but forget him lol..its easy for him to say dont do leggage since he is playing with Prince lmao..if I had the chance to be onstage with him everynight playing Id have the same stance..but I and yall are not..so if I get the chance to hear and cop a performance that I didnt get to be at or that I was at..Im coping it.

We all do...jermey funkenheimer does it...damn near all of Princes associates do it and have done it...hell, Prince even released some booted tracks as part of the npgmc in 2001-2002 lol

let me say it once and for all..bootlegs are sexy..bootlegs are happenin..bootlegs are comfort food..bootlegs kept me a fan...bootlegs are provacative and they get the people going...bootlegs are here to stay....bootlegs are greater than your mom and dad...thank god, amen, priase allah, asama alaken, etc etc etc

djThunderfunk said:

udo said:

You are referring people to bootlegs.

You are even explaining how to get to them!!!1!

That is not allowed on this site.

I hope you're just being cheeky...

Yes and no.

That is how they (the people that think they know hwat is best ofr us and/or the site) think.

Surely what I wrote is no different than what I usually write: "Google is your friend"

You added way more detail here.

Anyway, I will continue to collect free downloaded copies of bootlegs. Haven't paid for one in over 15 years (thanks computers) and won't pay for a single one. I will pay Prince if he wants to sell the same shows...

Good for you. I like the shiny discs.

If the mods agree, they can delete my post and warn me. I would argue that anybody who can use a comuter to visit and post on this site could figure out how to use a search engine to find something they have so much info on. But, with so many having problems using the simple 3rdeyegirl site, maybe I'm wrong...

udo said:

djThunderfunk said:

You added way more detail here.

rdhull said:

Doozer said:

would have been better if "practice" was spell-checked.

No disrespect to Renato but forget him lol..its easy for him to say dont do leggage since he is playing with Prince lmao..if I had the chance to be onstage with him everynight playing Id have the same stance..but I and yall are not..so if I get the chance to hear and cop a performance that I didnt get to be at or that I was at..Im coping it.

We all do...jermey funkenheimer does it...damn near all of Princes associates do it and have done it...hell, Prince even released some booted tracks as part of the npgmc in 2001-2002 lol

let me say it once and for all..bootlegs are sexy..bootlegs are happenin..bootlegs are comfort food..bootlegs kept me a fan...bootlegs are provacative and they get the people going...bootlegs are here to stay....bootlegs are greater than your mom and dad...thank god, amen, priase allah, asama alaken, etc etc etc

I enjoy Prince's music BECAUSE of bootlegs, not in spite of them. His output is more enjoyable to me because I've seen a bit "behind the curtain," and like it or not, Prince has bootlegs to thank for me buying every piece of music he's released in his life. Bootlegs are as much of Prince's brand as are the name Prince, , The Revolution, his custom guitars, etc. He's lucky they're around and that he has a following that pines for them. Nearly every other artist in the world would pay a lot for that kind of support and following.

In Renato's defense, I'm sure what he meant is buy official releases, don't steal music that's seen proper release and which nets royalties for artists, which I completely agree with.