HatrinaHaterwitz said:

skywalker said:

Prince went into your house, and changed the lyrics/edited your album's version of "Sexy MF"?

You know the unedited song is on itunes right?

Read what I posted again, S...L...O...W...L...Y.

I did. Like three times before I responded.

You said:

I've never had ANY of my recordings of Sexy MF alter nor change the lyrics.

Prince HAS!

But, Prince hasn't.

The original version of "Sexy MF" is still available in it's original/official/legit version*. You can still buy the original version of nearly every Prince album.

I fail to see how Prince is personally tarnishing your memories, wrecking experiences, or "edit(ing) out all the things that (you've) seen AND enjoyed."

You still have all of those original albums and memories and experiences, right? Again, I don't get how Prince is affecting you at all in this regard. It's a one way street and it's only you driving on it. Prince isn't involved. Kinda (or a lot) like your dvd collection.

*Sure, Prince (if he played "Sexy MF" live) probably would change the lyrics, but to various extents, none of his the live versions of his songs are the same as on record anyways.

Furthermore, the only official Prince involved edited version of "Sexy MF" that I am aware of is the one he released when he originally did the song in '92. Is that when your experiences were wrecked?

[Edited 11/14/12 20:44pm]

skywalker said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I did. Like three times before I responded.

You said:

I've never had ANY of my recordings of Sexy MF alter nor change the lyrics.

Prince HAS!

But, Prince hasn't.

The original version of "Sexy MF" is still available in it's original/official/legit version*. You can still buy the original version of nearly every Prince album.

I fail to see how Prince is personally tarnishing your memories, wrecking experiences, or "edit(ing) out all the things that (you've) seen AND enjoyed."

You still have all of those original albums and memories and experiences, right? Again, I don't get how Prince is affecting you at all in this regard. It's a one way street and it's only you driving on it. Prince isn't involved. Kinda (or a lot) like your dvd collection.

*Sure, Prince (if he played "Sexy MF" live) probably would change the lyrics, but to various extents, none of his the live versions of his songs are the same as on record anyways.

Furthermore, the only official Prince involved edited version of "Sexy MF" that I am aware of is the one he released when he originally did the song in '92. Is that when your experiences were wrecked?

[Edited 11/14/12 20:44pm]

And yet it still sailed right over your head.

It had to happen...

It would have been SO cool if, instead of sending acease and desist, Prince had asked Troy to make his next album cover witn a LPP doll!

Did mr P offer the dollmaker to pay e.g. 10% of the profits in exchange for the right to continue making these dolls?

databank said:

It had to happen...

It would have been SO cool if, instead of sending acease and desist, Prince had asked Troy to make his next album cover witn a LPP doll!

Indeed!

mr P is unCONstructive as ever.

He could strike a deal and make these dolls the next best thing compared to sliced bread.

But mr P is no business man.

Where is that Camille allbum?

from http://inloveandtrust.org/

Chiquetet said:

from http://inloveandtrust.org/

An Open Letter to Prince ...Legal Team

Troy Gua’s fans today learnt of the news that his “Le Petit Prince” project will be removed from the Internet on Friday 16^th November 2012.

There is no doubt in my mind that Troy’s efforts have always been driven by his love and respect for Prince’s work, and that his passion and positivity has been a beacon for Prince fans across the globe.

His talent and dedication is inspiring and I find it hard to believe that Prince hasn’t found some joy in seeing what most of his fans acknowledge as a loving, creative tribute to him and to his life’s work.

Therefore, I can only assume that the main reason he has requested its removal is due to business or financial matters and/or legal complications.

Of course, as Troy himself has said, he does not want to do anything contrary to the wishes of the artist who has inspired him to put countless hours and enormous effort into this project, and Prince is absolutely entitled to make this request and, presumably, effectively able to enforce it.

However, like so many that are fans of both artists, I sincerely hope that he reconsiders.

Artwork hangs on walls in galleries the world over, depicting great musicians from Beethoven to Stevie Wonder. Musicians have inspired painters, sculptors and other artists as much as they have, in turn, inspired musicians and it is difficult to bring to mind an instance in which a piece of art depicting a fellow creator has somehow diminished their commercial value, or taken market share that would otherwise have benefited its subject.

Although, as much as Prince is clearly the inspiration behind the project, the character that is Le Petit Prince (or LPP) has certainly taken on a life of its own. LPP represents Troy's interpretation and re-imagining of Prince, not Prince himself. Conceptually it's very different to simply trying to make "a Prince doll" and most, if not all of Troy's fans understand that LPP is Troy's own artwork - a creation in its own right - as inspired by the styles, images and artwork of Prince.

Troy has stated that he receives no profits from the small amount of merchandise he has created and that any income generated simply goes back into the project.

I’d imagine that he would be very open to discussing a compromise, whereby should merchandise sales start to turn a profit, that it would be mutually beneficial to both him and Prince.

Though income from the project is “meagre”, to use Troy’s word, enthusiasm is not. Prince fans around the world are captivated by his work and he has used his artwork to celebrate recent album milestones and tours in a way that can only increase publicity to Prince’s immediate benefit.

The thought of Prince working with Troy to create something to celebrate the launch of Andy Allo’s “Superconductor” album later this month is a delightful one. It would almost certainly be a purple sensation, spreading across the Prince-related corners of the Internet like wildfire and potentially even to some media outlets.

Of course, Prince should be able to benefit from this project at least as much as, if not more than, Troy himself, and I’m certain that it would bring Troy nothing but joy to see his creation bringing such success to another.

Right now, however, it would seem evident that Troy is alone in this mindset.

I hope that I’m wrong. I hope that, when he sees how beloved this character is, how it is a positive element in the online Prince community amidst considerable negativity, and how it is almost universally celebrated by his fans, that Prince will reconsider his position and allow Troy to continue to share his work.

If he doesn’t, I understand. Though it may seem otherwise, I don’t mean to tell Mr. Nelson his business.

I am simply a devoted fan of Prince who has derived so much joy from seeing Troy’s work and I can’t sit here and let “Le Petit Prince” disappear into the night without speaking my piece.

I wish both artists an abundance of joy, success and love. I will always be grateful to them for what they've shared with us already and I look forward to celebrating all of their future creations.

Warmest regards,

Claire Hennekam

There. Fixed.

Chiquetet said:

from http://inloveandtrust.org/

An Open Letter to Prince ...Legal Team

[biggie blurb]

Wow! Very nicely said.

troygua said:

I have so much to say and so little energy to say it. So I'm just gonna copy and paste some of items from Facebook:

The project was never meant to become what it has. I just made a little tribute sculpture, mostly for my own pleasure. I took some pics, put them on my site, they turned up on prince.org, then picked up all over the place. Folks started requesting different looks and recreations, and I took the requests as a challenge, ran with it, and it exploded. I got to the point where I had to finish out the timeline of Prince's career - I had come too far not to. I had countless requests to buy the sculpture, to reproduce it, and I refused time and time again - because *that* would be infringement without his consent. But producing a photographic body of work using something *I* created as the subject? I could argue that point until I pass out. But I will not do it. This project was meant as a tribute, and it will remain so.

Regarding "profits" and "infringement":

Hey all - Troy here. I just want to say thanks again - the support here is blowing my mind. I also want to say that I never meant to start a 'Down-with-Prince' post. Although I'm grateful for the sentiments, and am also deeply disappointed by this sad turn of events, I will not bash nor abide the bashing of the man that inspired this project in the first place. I completely understand your feelings, and you are of course, free to express them, but I really just wanted to let you all know how much this project has meant to me and thank you for everything you've given me.

And now I'd like to address a comment I just saw - Prince *shouldn't* bear people making a profit on his likeness - and that's not what I was doing. That may be his perception, and it may even be your perception, but it is VERY IMPORTANT for me that you all understand this: that simply is *not* the case. Any pittance of money I received from selling merchandise based on my work was put directly back into the project. I was hoping to ultimately create a beautiful photo book capturing the entire project - a keepsake for you and me - and something I was NOT planning on profitting from.

Now, I'll address one more point - if it were indeed Prince's actual image, if I were stealing directly from existing work, if I were to reproduce the sculptural doll and sell it - *that* would be infringement. I have gone along under the belief that since *I* created this sculpture and created my *own* photographic body of work using the sculpture as the subject, recreating any and all imagery, that I would be ok. I really believed this was my art, inspired by Prince, yes, but still mine. I could possibly fight this point - but what would that gain? I can't afford a lawyer, and I will not fight the man that this tribute is all about.

My initial statement:

Hello, Friends.

It is with a heavy heart that I write this - I have been issued a cease & desist order from Prince’s attorneys. This means that the Le Petit Prince project has reached its untimely end and must be removed from the internet by Friday, November 16, 4pm PST. There are many points touched upon in the order, and I will, of course, comply with their demands, whether I agree with them as

matters of artistic freedom or not. I simply do not wish to fight with my hero, and it is terribly disheartening to think that he may hold ill will towards me and this project. I wrote back to the attorneys and told them I would indeed comply, but wanted to address some of the issues brought up in their letter. I’d like to share these paragraphs with you, which contains sentiments that I hold dear and true:

“Any products sold are returning no profit to me - they are simply a meager means to fund and continue the LPP project, which is a work of fine art. And this funding, I would argue, is anything but “ill-gotten gains”. That term pains me, as I do not intend, nor have I ever intended to profit from Prince without his consent. I have, in fact, refused countless pleas to recreate the sculpture and make it available for sale because I felt that that would indeed be attempting to profit illegally. The recreation of album art and iconic imagery, on the other hand, I felt was within my creative rights as an artist. This is artwork that I have made as a loving tribute to an artist that has inspired me for decades, and has shaped the person I have become. And this tribute has grown into something that I never foresaw nor intended - a joyful and positive experience for many, many people around the world. It has, to my utter amazement, brought so much happiness to so many, building a following and a momentum that has demanded it endure and expand.

I have, actually, attempted through modest connections to Mr. Nelson, to contact him to no avail. He is not an easy person to reach out to. I, on the other hand, am very easy to engage, and was actually, perhaps foolishly, hoping for contact from him regarding this project in a much more congenial form. If I had any possible way of reaching Mr. Nelson to ask him his thoughts on this matter or to propose a creative business venture, believe me, I would have. I would love nothing more, and would relish the opportunity to do so, still.”

The words “thank you” could never adequately qualify the truly staggering gratitude I feel towards everyone who fueled the passion for this project with their words of support and praise, with their love and positivity, and with their all around good will. This project grew into what it became because of you. Although I am saddened beyond words that it has reached its end, and that it has ended this way, I am also deeply grateful and happy beyond words that I’ve had this rare opportunity to make so many new friends, to make so many people smile, and to make so many tiny sets of funky clothes.

I hope we can continue to be in touch in another corner of this great big universe somewhere. And I hope you had fun. I know I did.

For LPP, Troy Gua signing off...

Aw, Troy - you're such a positive guy!

Thanks for reminding us that we should live life with an attitude of gratitude and thankfulness (hey, Thanksgiving is next week!), instead of bitterness. It happens that LPP's days were numbered, but there was no foreseeing that we would have the days we did have, and never a guarantee that it would live beyond November 16 or any other date. So every day that we all got to enjoy LPP was a serendipitous blessing.

In addition to what you mention in the bolded part above, you also got interviews, even the attention of Spin, you got the admiration of Prince notables like Questlove and Lisa Coleman, you got your art onto people's walls and on their backs. And indeed, you made people smile.

There's just something about that little doll - it embodies and conveys all the joy, all the things that we love about Prince, and does not convey any of the negative. Only the things we love - his style, daring, attitude, charm, iconoclasm, innocence as well as badassness, and all his best songs and all the times he's surprised us. LPP had a personality of his own, a sweet accomodating childlike personality that was sometimes in awe of his own funkiness and enjoyed the cheekiness of everything. LPP is an idealization of Prince. We can project our fantasies onto him, he doesn't resist us.

I do hope you had fun, and enjoyed making "so many tiny sets of funky clothes"! I remember you wrote that you did not know how to sew clothes, and your wife made his first purple coat. You must be an expert doll clothesmaker now - you now have a new skill in your repertoire as an artist, another good thing to come out of all this.

I wish you well and thank you for the smiles.

artist76 said:

troygua said:

I have so much to say and so little energy to say it. So I'm just gonna copy and paste some of items from Facebook:

The project was never meant to become what it has. I just made a little tribute sculpture, mostly for my own pleasure. I took some pics, put them on my site, they turned up on prince.org, then picked up all over the place. Folks started requesting different looks and recreations, and I took the requests as a challenge, ran with it, and it exploded. I got to the point where I had to finish out the timeline of Prince's career - I had come too far not to. I had countless requests to buy the sculpture, to reproduce it, and I refused time and time again - because *that* would be infringement without his consent. But producing a photographic body of work using something *I* created as the subject? I could argue that point until I pass out. But I will not do it. This project was meant as a tribute, and it will remain so.

Regarding "profits" and "infringement":

Hey all - Troy here. I just want to say thanks again - the support here is blowing my mind. I also want to say that I never meant to start a 'Down-with-Prince' post. Although I'm grateful for the sentiments, and am also deeply disappointed by this sad turn of events, I will not bash nor abide the bashing of the man that inspired this project in the first place. I completely understand your feelings, and you are of course, free to express them, but I really just wanted to let you all know how much this project has meant to me and thank you for everything you've given me.

And now I'd like to address a comment I just saw - Prince *shouldn't* bear people making a profit on his likeness - and that's not what I was doing. That may be his perception, and it may even be your perception, but it is VERY IMPORTANT for me that you all understand this: that simply is *not* the case. Any pittance of money I received from selling merchandise based on my work was put directly back into the project. I was hoping to ultimately create a beautiful photo book capturing the entire project - a keepsake for you and me - and something I was NOT planning on profitting from.

Now, I'll address one more point - if it were indeed Prince's actual image, if I were stealing directly from existing work, if I were to reproduce the sculptural doll and sell it - *that* would be infringement. I have gone along under the belief that since *I* created this sculpture and created my *own* photographic body of work using the sculpture as the subject, recreating any and all imagery, that I would be ok. I really believed this was my art, inspired by Prince, yes, but still mine. I could possibly fight this point - but what would that gain? I can't afford a lawyer, and I will not fight the man that this tribute is all about.

My initial statement:

Hello, Friends.

It is with a heavy heart that I write this - I have been issued a cease & desist order from Prince’s attorneys. This means that the Le Petit Prince project has reached its untimely end and must be removed from the internet by Friday, November 16, 4pm PST. There are many points touched upon in the order, and I will, of course, comply with their demands, whether I agree with them as

matters of artistic freedom or not. I simply do not wish to fight with my hero, and it is terribly disheartening to think that he may hold ill will towards me and this project. I wrote back to the attorneys and told them I would indeed comply, but wanted to address some of the issues brought up in their letter. I’d like to share these paragraphs with you, which contains sentiments that I hold dear and true:

“Any products sold are returning no profit to me - they are simply a meager means to fund and continue the LPP project, which is a work of fine art. And this funding, I would argue, is anything but “ill-gotten gains”. That term pains me, as I do not intend, nor have I ever intended to profit from Prince without his consent. I have, in fact, refused countless pleas to recreate the sculpture and make it available for sale because I felt that that would indeed be attempting to profit illegally. The recreation of album art and iconic imagery, on the other hand, I felt was within my creative rights as an artist. This is artwork that I have made as a loving tribute to an artist that has inspired me for decades, and has shaped the person I have become. And this tribute has grown into something that I never foresaw nor intended - a joyful and positive experience for many, many people around the world. It has, to my utter amazement, brought so much happiness to so many, building a following and a momentum that has demanded it endure and expand.

I have, actually, attempted through modest connections to Mr. Nelson, to contact him to no avail. He is not an easy person to reach out to. I, on the other hand, am very easy to engage, and was actually, perhaps foolishly, hoping for contact from him regarding this project in a much more congenial form. If I had any possible way of reaching Mr. Nelson to ask him his thoughts on this matter or to propose a creative business venture, believe me, I would have. I would love nothing more, and would relish the opportunity to do so, still.”

The words “thank you” could never adequately qualify the truly staggering gratitude I feel towards everyone who fueled the passion for this project with their words of support and praise, with their love and positivity, and with their all around good will. This project grew into what it became because of you. Although I am saddened beyond words that it has reached its end, and that it has ended this way, I am also deeply grateful and happy beyond words that I’ve had this rare opportunity to make so many new friends, to make so many people smile, and to make so many tiny sets of funky clothes.

I hope we can continue to be in touch in another corner of this great big universe somewhere. And I hope you had fun. I know I did.

For LPP, Troy Gua signing off...

Aw, Troy - you're such a positive guy!

Thanks for reminding us that we should live life with an attitude of gratitude and thankfulness (hey, Thanksgiving is next week!), instead of bitterness. It happens that LPP's days were numbered, but there was no foreseeing that we would have the days we did have, and never a guarantee that it would live beyond November 16 or any other date. So every day that we all got to enjoy LPP was a serendipitous blessing.

In addition to what you mention in the bolded part above, you also got interviews, even the attention of Spin, you got the admiration of Prince notables like Questlove and Lisa Coleman, you got your art onto people's walls and on their backs. And indeed, you made people smile.

There's just something about that little doll - it embodies and conveys all the joy, all the things that we love about Prince, and does not convey any of the negative. Only the things we love - his style, daring, attitude, charm, iconoclasm, innocence as well as badassness, and all his best songs and all the times he's surprised us. LPP had a personality of his own, a sweet accomodating childlike personality that was sometimes in awe of his own funkiness and enjoyed the cheekiness of everything. LPP is an idealization of Prince. We can project our fantasies onto him, he doesn't resist us.

I do hope you had fun, and enjoyed making "so many tiny sets of funky clothes"! I remember you wrote that you did not know how to sew clothes, and your wife made his first purple coat. You must be an expert doll clothesmaker now - you now have a new skill in your repertoire as an artist, another good thing to come out of all this.

I wish you well and thank you for the smiles.

This!

I'm so glad i got the calendar before this all crashed down!

skywalker said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

My DVD collection can never piss me off because it's inanimate. It won't suddenly change up on me and try to edit out all the things that I've seen AND enjoyed coming from it for years and years and years.

And neither can Prince.

-----------------Nerdy Aside-----------------------------------------------

Also, your dvd's may skip, or have a glitch, or just not work the way you want them too, but it's not a personal jab at you. It just is what it is.

My DVD copy of Never Say Never Again (Sean Connery's comeback as 007) stopped working. I didn't even mistreat it. It just won't play. Now, the damn movie is out of print and going for hundreds on ebay and amazon. I don't take it personally. I am not thinking that Sean Connery, nor the makers of the film, are trying to sap the enjoyment from my life. It's just entertaiment/art...no matter how much it has moved me.

Bollocks

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

skywalker said:

And yet it still sailed right over your head.

I guess I just don't understand what you are saying. Sorry.

honer said:

skywalker said:

And neither can Prince.

-----------------Nerdy Aside-----------------------------------------------

Also, your dvd's may skip, or have a glitch, or just not work the way you want them too, but it's not a personal jab at you. It just is what it is.

My DVD copy of Never Say Never Again (Sean Connery's comeback as 007) stopped working. I didn't even mistreat it. It just won't play. Now, the damn movie is out of print and going for hundreds on ebay and amazon. I don't take it personally. I am not thinking that Sean Connery, nor the makers of the film, are trying to sap the enjoyment from my life. It's just entertaiment/art...no matter how much it has moved me.

Bollocks

Find me/point me to a Region one copy on Amazon for less than $50 and I'll love you forever.

perhaps if troy had named him "le grande prince" or at least made the doll anatomically correct "u know prince likes to show off his junk" this would have gone over better

i would love to see the andy or prince promo featuring troys dolls .. some ala genesis land of confusion .. except the dolls would look good instead of ugly

personally i consider troys dolls to be art and not comercial .. they should be sold as art .. even in calenders .. i don't think prince has a legal right to stop him .. its not an actual photo of prince .. it's not called 'prince' .. if u wanna be technical .. it doesn't look exactly like prince either .. that is a pretty big head .. so now characatures are illegal? i think not .. rolling stone prints and sells characatures all the time .. so does mad tv owe prince for their prince impersonations selling ad time?

my only critique of troy is that the eyelashes are too long .. otherwise ... prince is full of shit and I am certain should troy choose to fight with a lawyer he would win .. probably not worth it financially or emotionally to troy but none the less .. i believe legally he is in the right and prince is just being a total ass bully jerk face gluttonous oppressor .. no wonder his music sucks .. he's got no heart and no clue

Graycap23 said:

illimack said:

Lil Prince was so cute. The real Prince needs a new circle of friends......someone to xplain to him how not to be a dick!!!!!!! He ain't going broke and I'm sure Troy would have worked with him if he would have reached out. I will nvr understand somone who seems to go out of their way to piss off their fans.

Had has reached out..............more than once but Prince ignored the dude.

Since when is Prince obligated to respond to every person who seeks contact with him to "collaborate" on anything. 1st off, This [Snip - luv4u] from Seattle opens a WEB STORE selling Calendars, Shirts, $199.00 prints that include appropriated works that belong to Prince and Princes likeness. I no doubt, am very impressed by Troy Gua's craftsmanship and skill. There is no contest that he is talented.

I am not impressed nor convinced that his entire "Le Petit Prince" project is solely viewed and birthed from his "artistry". This is tremendous arrogance and/or ignorance for anyone to think you can launch all of this and on top of that, have words, titles and phrases within some of the photos that refer to Troy Gua as the Big Artist behind the Tiny Artist. Who do you think you are ? Copyrighted logos misused, and copyrighted artwork reproduced (scanned and printed) cannot be propped up as "art". If you were a real Prince fan, you would have never disrespected Prince on the many levels you did.

People in current times have a very distorted and grossly exaggerated sense of entitlment when it comes to what they think they are entitled to. Prince is his own person. Fans, "peeps" and/or "fams" have no right to be angry or upset when Prince doesn't deliver what they see fit for him to be doing with his personal life or his career. There is so much ugliness coming from inside peoples minds on this board, it's gross.

If you are a true fan of Prince, you just need to appreciate the things you like and/or love about Prince and not attack, hate on, judge, condemn or diss the things you aren't into or "down with". That is very immature and one-sided. Selfish. Prince fans are too ungrateful, and often. I am not saying Prince is perfect. No one is. Fans put too many expectations on celebrities and famous artists and hold their fandom hostage if they don't constantly get their way. How can you know his music and not learn from it ? That I don't understand. People pick people apart all too easily. There should be a lot more Positivity on this board. Prince is a wild ride, if U don't like surprises, Gett Off.

[Edited 11/15/12 6:21am]

purplecrack said:

Graycap23 said:

Had has reached out..............more than once but Prince ignored the dude.

Since when is Prince obligated to respond to every person who seeks contact with him to "collaborate" on anything. 1st off, This [Snip - luv4u] from Seattle opens a WEB STORE selling Calendars, Shirts, $199.00 prints that include appropriated works that belong to Prince and Princes likeness. I no doubt, am very impressed by Troy Gua's craftsmanship and skill. There is no contest that he is talented.

I am not impressed nor convinced that his entire "Le Petit Prince" project is solely viewed and birthed from his "artistry". This is tremendous arrogance and/or ignorance for anyone to think you can launch all of this and on top of that, have words, titles and phrases within some of the photos that refer to Troy Gua as the Big Artist behind the Tiny Artist. Who do you think you are ? Copyrighted logos misused, and copyrighted artwork reproduced (scanned and printed) cannot be propped up as "art". If you were a real Prince fan, you would have never disrespected Prince on the many levels you did.

People in current times have a very distorted and grossly exaggerated sense of entitlment when it comes to what they think they are entitled to. Prince is his own person. Fans, "peeps" and/or "fams" have no right to be angry or upset when Prince doesn't deliver what they see fit for him to be doing with his personal life or his career. There is so much ugliness coming from inside peoples minds on this board, it's gross.

If you are a true fan of Prince, you just need to appreciate the things you like and/or love about Prince and not attack, hate on, judge, condemn or diss the things you aren't into or "down with". That is very immature and one-sided. Selfish. Prince fans are too ungrateful, and often. I am not saying Prince is perfect. No one is. Fans put too many expectations on celebrities and famous artists and hold their fandom hostage if they don't constantly get their way. How can you know his music and not learn from it ? That I don't understand. People pick people apart all too easily. There should be a lot more Positivity on this board. Prince is a wild ride, if U don't like surprises, Gett Off.

[Edited 11/15/12 6:21am]

No where did u see me say anything about Prince being obligated.

this just in .. prince sues wendy and lisa for dressing kind of like prince in the purple rain movie

skywalker said:

honer said:

Bollocks

Find me/point me to a Region one copy on Amazon for less than $50 and I'll love you forever.

Does it have to be on Amazon to recieve said love, coz theres one on ebay Piss taking Aside I hope this helps!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEVER-SAY-NEVER-AGAIN-MGM-REGION-1-DVD-/200839896447?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_DVDs_DVDs_GL&hash=item2ec2fd9d7f

honer said:

skywalker said:

Find me/point me to a Region one copy on Amazon for less than $50 and I'll love you forever.

Does it have to be on Amazon to recieve said love, coz theres one on ebay Piss taking Aside I hope this helps!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEVER-SAY-NEVER-AGAIN-MGM-REGION-1-DVD-/200839896447?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_DVDs_DVDs_GL&hash=item2ec2fd9d7f

Aha! UK version of ebay. Why didn't I think of that? Thanks. You are offically invited to Christmas.

Graycap23 said:

purplecrack said:

Since when is Prince obligated to respond to every person who seeks contact with him to "collaborate" on anything. 1st off, This [Snip - luv4u] from Seattle opens a WEB STORE selling Calendars, Shirts, $199.00 prints that include appropriated works that belong to Prince and Princes likeness. I no doubt, am very impressed by Troy Gua's craftsmanship and skill. There is no contest that he is talented.

I am not impressed nor convinced that his entire "Le Petit Prince" project is solely viewed and birthed from his "artistry". This is tremendous arrogance and/or ignorance for anyone to think you can launch all of this and on top of that, have words, titles and phrases within some of the photos that refer to Troy Gua as the Big Artist behind the Tiny Artist. Who do you think you are ? Copyrighted logos misused, and copyrighted artwork reproduced (scanned and printed) cannot be propped up as "art". If you were a real Prince fan, you would have never disrespected Prince on the many levels you did.

People in current times have a very distorted and grossly exaggerated sense of entitlment when it comes to what they think they are entitled to. Prince is his own person. Fans, "peeps" and/or "fams" have no right to be angry or upset when Prince doesn't deliver what they see fit for him to be doing with his personal life or his career. There is so much ugliness coming from inside peoples minds on this board, it's gross.

If you are a true fan of Prince, you just need to appreciate the things you like and/or love about Prince and not attack, hate on, judge, condemn or diss the things you aren't into or "down with". That is very immature and one-sided. Selfish. Prince fans are too ungrateful, and often. I am not saying Prince is perfect. No one is. Fans put too many expectations on celebrities and famous artists and hold their fandom hostage if they don't constantly get their way. How can you know his music and not learn from it ? That I don't understand. People pick people apart all too easily. There should be a lot more Positivity on this board. Prince is a wild ride, if U don't like surprises, Gett Off.

[Edited 11/15/12 6:21am]

No where did u see me say anything about Prince being obligated.

I am sorry Graycap, I did not intend this post to be directed at you, but at Troy Gua.

purplecrack said:

Graycap23 said:

No where did u see me say anything about Prince being obligated.

I am sorry Graycap, I did not intend this post to be directed at you, but at Troy Gua.

Kool.

interesting comments on http://www.spin.com/artic...ase-desist

and http://therapup.net/2012/...big-prince ...

I want one of them shirts though. The blue one.

TrevorAyer said:

this just in .. prince sues wendy and lisa for dressing kind of like prince in the purple rain movie

He DOES!?

purplecrack said:

Graycap23 said:

Had has reached out..............more than once but Prince ignored the dude.

Since when is Prince obligated to respond to every person who seeks contact with him to "collaborate" on anything. 1st off, This [Snip - luv4u] from Seattle opens a WEB STORE selling Calendars, Shirts, $199.00 prints that include appropriated works that belong to Prince and Princes likeness. I no doubt, am very impressed by Troy Gua's craftsmanship and skill. There is no contest that he is talented.

I am not impressed nor convinced that his entire "Le Petit Prince" project is solely viewed and birthed from his "artistry". This is tremendous arrogance and/or ignorance for anyone to think you can launch all of this and on top of that, have words, titles and phrases within some of the photos that refer to Troy Gua as the Big Artist behind the Tiny Artist. Who do you think you are ? Copyrighted logos misused, and copyrighted artwork reproduced (scanned and printed) cannot be propped up as "art". If you were a real Prince fan, you would have never disrespected Prince on the many levels you did.

People in current times have a very distorted and grossly exaggerated sense of entitlment when it comes to what they think they are entitled to. Prince is his own person. Fans, "peeps" and/or "fams" have no right to be angry or upset when Prince doesn't deliver what they see fit for him to be doing with his personal life or his career. There is so much ugliness coming from inside peoples minds on this board, it's gross.

If you are a true fan of Prince, you just need to appreciate the things you like and/or love about Prince and not attack, hate on, judge, condemn or diss the things you aren't into or "down with". That is very immature and one-sided. Selfish. Prince fans are too ungrateful, and often. I am not saying Prince is perfect. No one is. Fans put too many expectations on celebrities and famous artists and hold their fandom hostage if they don't constantly get their way. How can you know his music and not learn from it ? That I don't understand. People pick people apart all too easily. There should be a lot more Positivity on this board. Prince is a wild ride, if U don't like surprises, Gett Off.

[Edited 11/15/12 6:21am]

I'm sorry, but this makes more sense than anything else I've read. Not to say Troy had ill-intentions, but it seems he had crossed the line. Say Prince had never gotten on board with his project and never sent the cease and desist, how far would he (Troy) have taken it? I think with all the many endorsements, it would have gotten waaaay out of hand.

illimack said:

Lil Prince was so cute. The real Prince needs a new circle of friends......someone to xplain to him how not to be a dick!!!!!!! He ain't going broke and I'm sure Troy would have worked with him if he would have reached out. I will nvr understand somone who seems to go out of their way to piss off their fans.

......and this is just plain funny.

This is really sad and pathetic. I wonder why we're all even still here? Whatever was left of our hero is lost in some labryinthe perhaps never to be seen again. If he does resurface out of this shell of his former self, who is even going to care? Wake up.

purplecrack said:

Copyrighted logos misused, and copyrighted artwork reproduced (scanned and printed) cannot be propped up as "art".

Can you give a specific example of a copyrighted artwork that was reproduced (scanned and printed) as part of the "Le Petit Prince" project?

PositivityNYC said:

interesting comments on http://www.spin.com/artic...ase-desist

and http://therapup.net/2012/...big-prince ...

Very interesting - thanks for pointing it out.

More discussion about Andy Warhol that helps put it in perspective:

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