purplethunder3121 said:

juliejuliejulie said:

jackson35 said:

rick james is a former client of mine and i can't stand people who don'y known shit about him talk aLL MAKE YOUR LIFE A LIVING HELL.bout him as if all he ever did was do drugs and beat women. prince has done far worse to people and ruined a lot of people career and lives and yet all of u are trying to dogg rick. DAMN SKIPPY I'M GOING TO ACT HURT, HE WAS ONE OF THE FEW ARTIST WHO TREATS HIS ROAD CREW WITH THE RESPECT THAT THEY DESERVE, UNLIKE PRINCE WHO DOSEN'T GIVE A FUCK IF YOUR TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING, HE WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE A LIVING HELL.

Prince is worse? Did something far worse than Rick James who kidnapped, beat and raped women? Really? And specifically what the hell would that be? It is obvious in the video how hate filled and nasty James is. We are supposed to believe your word that Rick respected people despite the nasty homophobic rant in this video and the documented way he treated women? Maybe in fantasy land but not in the real world because how you do one thing is how you do everything and actions speak louder than words. Ricks actions and words speak for themself.

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What?

I think you may have been watching a different video, 'cause in the one this thread is about, all Rick talked about was Charlie Murphy and Prince, and neither one of them are homosexual.

^ Anything can be deemed offensive nowadays.

I agree. I don't hear any homophobic overtones, it's just 2 buddies talking sh!t about each other.

artist76 said:

jackson35 said:

rick james is a former client of mine and i can't stand people who don'y known shit about him talk aLL MAKE YOUR LIFE A LIVING HELL.bout him as if all he ever did was do drugs and beat women. prince has done far worse to people and ruined a lot of people career and lives and yet all of u are trying to dogg rick. DAMN SKIPPY I'M GOING TO ACT HURT, HE WAS ONE OF THE FEW ARTIST WHO TREATS HIS ROAD CREW WITH THE RESPECT THAT THEY DESERVE, UNLIKE PRINCE WHO DOSEN'T GIVE A FUCK IF YOUR TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING, HE WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE A LIVING HELL.

Was Elton John your client too, because you sure hated on Prince in that thread "Elton John vs. Prince Who's More Prolific." And in every other thread.

Look, most reasonable people know that Prince ain't perfect - he's got a 30+ career, the vast majority of people aren't going to like everything about him and/or his music, and it can be interesting and entertaining to discuss our different opinions. That being said, I don't understand why people who don't like him or his music AT ALL bother to come on here -- just to ruin everyone else's fun? Oh well, you're not the first and unfortunately won't be the last...

But did he say he "hates" Prince? No, he didn't. Just because jackson35 calls Prince out on ALL of his shit doesn't mean he hates him. I think he's probably just tired of people blindly and unconditionally sucking Prince's dick on everything and always putting another artist down in favor of him, just because he's Prince.

NONE of us would be here if we truly hated all of his music.

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jackson35 said:

all of you love to talk about rick's addiction to drugs and how bad rick wanted to be like prince. why don't we talk about the stupid shit prince does when he is sober. hiring women who can't sing like vanity and carmen, spending a million dollars on promotion and videos and didn't turn a profit. how about going to industry events with slave written on your face whin your record company made u vp of the whole damn company. u talk about rick's weight and how fat he is, well at least he can gain weight, what's prince's excuse, he looks he miss a lot of meals.

Come out with it dude. What the hell did Prince do 2 u?

I guess Rick liked rivalries and tensions, trouble seemed to find him. Keep in mind he was AWOL when he was in that band w/Neil Young.

The rivalry with Prince seemed more like watching this guy pass you on and move on to a huge success... I think it fueled his demons though. Not sure if Motown was trying to keep him in a box, or he just fell apart and got weird the way Sly did (who seems to just be playing it up sometimes).

It is sad when someone of an older age dies with drugs in their system, but when you do it for years like that, and it's easily accessible, no matter what your wife or assistant tries to do, you're still a grown ass man and going to do what you want.

People thought Dave completely lost it, but like he said, it got too big for him, and felt boxed in, his team was letting him down, and didn't like the direction the show was heading in. He makes a good living, and prob. would be sitting on piles of money rehashing characters, but true artists can't whore out like that.... something in them snaps when they do. He gave Charlie Murphy a standup career which kind of fills the Eddie Murphy standup void, but it's prob. better than the things he did for Eddie.

dalsh327 said:

He gave Charlie Murphy a standup career which kind of fills the Eddie Murphy standup void,

uh...no

his standup sucks

alexnvrmnd777 said:

^ it's an old person's attempt at trolling

Isn't it about time for some more Rick James reissues? Fire It Up and Garden of Love were reissued nearly two years ago and since then nothing.

purplethunder3121 said:

ole girl from Soul Train in the back, Cheryl Song.

I don't hate prince at all, i think he's one of the best live performer out here, i just didnt think in 1979 on the fire it up tour, he blew rick away. Rick had a customized state with a big band with a horn section and three fine back up singers. prince just had a regular band that super tight but sloopy every now and again. i don't like the way he takes advantage of his band, where he does marathon sound checks for hours then does the show, then another after show then get back on the bus, go back to the hotel, grab your stuff and sleep it off on the bus all for a paltry sum of 850 dollar a week. i dont like the way he treats his production staff by acting as if we are below him and communicating with handwritten notes and not with his damn mouth. love p music, love his live bootlegs but a very uptight client.

uuhson said:

^ it's an old person's attempt at trolling

WaterInYourBath said:

juliejuliejulie said:

Prince is worse? Did something far worse than Rick James who kidnapped, beat and raped women? Really? And specifically what the hell would that be? It is obvious in the video how hate filled and nasty James is. We are supposed to believe your word that Rick respected people despite the nasty homophobic rant in this video and the documented way he treated women? Maybe in fantasy land but not in the real world because how you do one thing is how you do everything and actions speak louder than words. Ricks actions and words speak for themself.

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What?

I think you may have been watching a different video, 'cause in the one this thread is about, all Rick talked about was Charlie Murphy and Prince, and neither one of them are homosexual.

I think you may not understand what James is saying and implying with his comments about Prince. The implication is obviously that Prince isnt a "real"man unlike Nubian god Murphy?!LOL You also may want to look up the definition to homophobia because his attitude is homphobic and I never said Prince or Murphy were gay. James is typical of man who had masculinity problems and was threatened by anyone who is different.

juliejuliejulie said:

WaterInYourBath said:

What?

I think you may have been watching a different video, 'cause in the one this thread is about, all Rick talked about was Charlie Murphy and Prince, and neither one of them are homosexual.

I think you may not understand what James is saying and implying with his comments about Prince. The implication is obviously that Prince isnt a "real"man unlike Nubian god Murphy?!LOL You also may want to look up the definition to homophobia because his attitude is homphobic and I never said Prince or Murphy were gay. James is typical of man who had masculinity problems and was threatened by anyone who is different.

..and as if Rick was the epitome of manly man..we used to laugh at his "act" back then.."she's a veryy kinky gurrrrlll..the kind u dont take home to muthaaaaa"

ol glitter face

oh gawd

All three guys are straight. Motherfucker was just acting like he was bold or something. He had more makeup on than Prince did in the year he did that interview.

Timmy84 said:

All three guys are straight. Motherfucker was just acting like he was bold or something. He had more makeup on than Prince did in the year he did that interview.

I know but Rick is up here tlaking about Princes OBVIOUS movements and vocal screeches while he was doing the same thing in a different way.

rdhull said:

Timmy84 said:

All three guys are straight. Motherfucker was just acting like he was bold or something. He had more makeup on than Prince did in the year he did that interview.

I know but Rick is up here tlaking about Princes OBVIOUS movements and vocal screeches while he was doing the same thing in a different way.

They were both androgynous in their own way anyways.

I like how he sucks on his finger twice in that interview and doesn't wipe it off either time. He's like a human/bullfrog hybrid and just licks that big thick digit of his and lets it slide out of his mouth and just puts his hand down.

Cocaine really IS a helluva drug.

Funny thing is he said at the end he didn't do cocaine anymore but cocaine was found in his system.

Timmy84 said:

Funny thing is he said at the end he didn't do cocaine anymore but cocaine was found in his system.

You got me curious, so I checked it out.

Holy shit.

juliejuliejulie said:

WaterInYourBath said:

What?

I think you may have been watching a different video, 'cause in the one this thread is about, all Rick talked about was Charlie Murphy and Prince, and neither one of them are homosexual.

I think you may not understand what James is saying and implying with his comments about Prince. The implication is obviously that Prince isnt a "real"man unlike Nubian god Murphy?!LOL You also may want to look up the definition to homophobia because his attitude is homphobic and I never said Prince or Murphy were gay. James is typical of man who had masculinity problems and was threatened by anyone who is different.

In that video, no it wasn't. Saying Prince is small and acted feminine doesn't mean Rick was afraid of or even discriminatory against homosexuals, and he wasn't alluding to any "homophobia" either. Randomly insulting Prince's appearance is not him being "homophobic." Rick just greatly disliked Prince, for whatever reasons, and that's all he was referring to, aside from Charlie.

FunkiestOne said:

Rick James was a one hit wonder who everyone would have forgotten if not for Dave Chappelle. And even then, he's just a joke.

......

Go ahead and bash Rick for being bitter at the end, but dude was a force to be reckoned with and more popular in R&B/Funk world than Prince in the late 70s, he gave us Teena Marie, Mary Jane Girls, and batted cleanup for Motown for a good bit (Stevie was on Tamla). He and Prince were a natural rivalry; I can't see him NOT influencing Prince--it's not a dirty word in my book-- I personally would have loved to have seen the competition last into the 90s. Street Songs got as much play in my household/neighborhood growing up as 1999, if not more. If only Rick could've handled the life...

rdhull said:

FunkiestOne said:

Rick James was a one hit wonder who everyone would have forgotten if not for Dave Chappelle. And even then, he's just a joke.

Come on now..in certain circles (i.e. non whitebread america), Rick is a god and certainly no one hit wonder. He has at least 3 or 4 classic records...Come n Get It, Bustin Out, Street Songs, and Cold Blooded..Im not even going to talk about Throwin Down, or him saving Motown from 1978 on, having hits with Eddie, Mary jane Girls, Teena, The Temptations (The Tempations!), Smokey, etc etc.

We all know his foibles and missteps, and how Prince passed him up in the long run

But lets stop with this revisionist history of Rick not counting at all

By the same token the other side need to stop acting like Prince isnt the absolute quintessential shit...I mean you here postin on P.org and not ImRickJamesBitch.com

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...and that too! lol

babyjubilation said:

jackson35 said:

I don't hate prince at all, i think he's one of the best live performer out here, i just didnt think in 1979 on the fire it up tour, he blew rick away. Rick had a customized state with a big band with a horn section and three fine back up singers. prince just had a regular band that super tight but sloopy every now and again. i don't like the way he takes advantage of his band, where he does marathon sound checks for hours then does the show, then another after show then get back on the bus, go back to the hotel, grab your stuff and sleep it off on the bus all for a paltry sum of 850 dollar a week. i dont like the way he treats his production staff by acting as if we are below him and communicating with handwritten notes and not with his damn mouth. love p music, love his live bootlegs but a very uptight client.

And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. He wouldn't even be here if he wasn't a fan.

Though I will say, jackson35, just because a band is bigger with a brass section and vocalists doesn't mean it's better than a small, rawer, tighter unit. But, I guess all of that is subjective at best. Meh.

Regardless of some of the outlandish things that have come out of both of their mouths over the years, Rick James and Prince were/are two incredibly talented and funky musicians (though Rick rarely ever gets the credit he truly deserves, and I'm absolutely TIRED of it).

OK.

Spinlight said:

Timmy84 said:

Funny thing is he said at the end he didn't do cocaine anymore but cocaine was found in his system.

You got me curious, so I checked it out.

Through his autopsy, alprazolam, diazepam, bupropion, citalopram, hydrocodone, digoxin,chlorpheniramine, methamphetamine and cocaine were found in his blood.

Holy shit.

Dang!! Rick James didn't even have to go that far about Prince. Prince is the man! Prince knew from an early age, what it takes..Now look at where he is right now. There seems to be no end to his creativity. Rick James was the MAN, but this was pretty unnecessary. Cocain is hellu of a drug for sure! We already know that the truth indeed prevails! Haha