you can tell. I always felt that controversy & 1999 had huge

gary numan influence.

both r genius

TheDigitalGardener said:

Here is an interesting little snippet I found online about Gary talking about Prince.

Source http://thequietus.com/art...maker-1994

"I was told that Prince used to do 'Cars' in his soundcheck, too. Yeah! And Chic, they did, too. Prince is the sort of bloke who sucks in like a sponge what's going on around him. What about 'Cream'? That's 'Get It On', isn't it? Have you noticed, everyone's slagging off Michael Jackson for turning white, but have you ever seen any early pictures of Prince? Now that was a very black man. These days he's a white man, with a laughably small beard. I really admire anyone who puts on a real spectacular show, without charging £250 a ticket like Barbra Streisand."

(Re. bold part) Oh how times change.

Crazy!!! Yesterday I watched Prince's acoustic version of Cream then on the radio later I heard "Get it On" and I was like that is totally Cream!!!! I'd never noticed and then today I read that Gary Numan made that connection. Hmmmm, maybe this has been known for a long time but it's new and interesting to me.

TheDigitalGardener said:

Here is an interesting little snippet I found online about Gary talking about Prince.

Source http://thequietus.com/art...maker-1994

"I was told that Prince used to do 'Cars' in his soundcheck, too. Yeah! And Chic, they did, too. Prince is the sort of bloke who sucks in like a sponge what's going on around him. What about 'Cream'? That's 'Get It On', isn't it? Have you noticed, everyone's slagging off Michael Jackson for turning white, but have you ever seen any early pictures of Prince? Now that was a very black man. These days he's a white man, with a laughably small beard. I really admire anyone who puts on a real spectacular show, without charging £250 a ticket like Barbra Streisand."

(Re. bold part) Oh how times change.

Good read!

When Numan said Pop stars should do things...drink, be scary, have attitude, I thought of G.G. Allin.

^^ Mmmm, I don't think he meant as scary as Allen.

TheDigitalGardener said:

^^ Mmmm, I don't think he meant as scary as Allen.

Just joking! Boy was he a mess. Literally!

Years ago someone loaned me a copy of "The Pleasure Principle" by Gary and I was BLOWN away. You can truly hear where P got his "new wave synth funk" sound for the "Controversy" and "1999" LP's.

Some people are hip to "Cars" but his other stuff is bangin' too.

SPYZFAN1 said:

Years ago someone loaned me a copy of "The Pleasure Principle" by Gary and I was BLOWN away. You can truly hear where P got his "new wave synth funk" sound for the "Controversy" and "1999" LP's.

Some people are hip to "Cars" but his other stuff is bangin' too.

"Your Fascination," is another zirconium by Gary Numan!

Gary Numan

Kraftwerk

It's actually the guitars with the synths doing pop melodies that made Tubeway Army standout (and maybe the pierrot clown imagery hahah).

Dez Dickerson has also mentioned Ultravox as an influence. I can hear it big time.

Had they got to hear Fad Gadget, I'd think that also would have been excited by those songs.

antoinet said:

Crazy!!! Yesterday I watched Prince's acoustic version of Cream then on the radio later I heard "Get it On" and I was like that is totally Cream!!!! I'd never noticed and then today I read that Gary Numan made that connection. Hmmmm, maybe this has been known for a long time but it's new and interesting to me.

The similarity has been noted on since it was released.

I know T.Rex never had a big presence in the US, but I think Get It On was their biggest hit over there?

Great band BTW

treehouse said:

It's actually the guitars with the synths doing pop melodies that made Tubeway Army standout (and maybe the pierrot clown imagery hahah).

Dez Dickerson has also mentioned Ultravox as an influence. I can hear it big time.

Had they got to hear Fad Gadget, I'd think that also would have been excited by those songs.

Fad Gadget! I interviewed Daniel Miller a couple of months ago for my Depeche Mode documentary, of course we got into the history of Mute and he talked a lot about Fad Gadget.

Militant said:

treehouse said:

It's actually the guitars with the synths doing pop melodies that made Tubeway Army standout (and maybe the pierrot clown imagery hahah).

Dez Dickerson has also mentioned Ultravox as an influence. I can hear it big time.

Had they got to hear Fad Gadget, I'd think that also would have been excited by those songs.

Fad Gadget! I interviewed Daniel Miller a couple of months ago for my Depeche Mode documentary, of course we got into the history of Mute and he talked a lot about Fad Gadget.

Tell us more!

Love FG.. first time I saw him he was supporting Toyah (!) in Dublin...I instantly loved him.....last time I saw Frank was when he supported DM in Paris.

Great Guy RIP

Militant said:

Fad Gadget! I interviewed Daniel Miller a couple of months ago for my Depeche Mode documentary, of course we got into the history of Mute and he talked a lot about Fad Gadget.

Daniel Miller is a real unsung hero.

(For others reading this, he made the song Warm Leatherette and started Mute Records)

Bowie (and Kraftwerk) showed the way. Numan made it popular/mainstream, that's why Bowie was sooooooooo jealous back in the 79-81 era, lol. Prince was surely a fan of Numan during 1979/1980, like many other artists who started using synths in 1980...

owen said:

I thought the EXACT same thing after I saw that Numan cover the other day.

Prince should be called James Richard Numan.

WaterInYourBath said:

owen said:

I thought the EXACT same thing after I saw that Numan cover the other day.

Prince should be called James Richard Numan.

exaggeration. hyperbole

but yes, the influence is there...

JoeTyler said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I thought the EXACT same thing after I saw that Numan cover the other day.

Prince should be called James Richard Numan.

exaggeration. hyperbole

but yes, the influence is there...

No, it's not.

WaterInYourBath said:

JoeTyler said:

exaggeration. hyperbole

but yes, the influence is there...

No, it's not.

Yes, it is.

But what does Gary Numan think?

purplethunder3121 said:

But what does Gary Numan think?

....that Prince is a Genius.....so we have 2 Genius who think the same think about the other!!!

eireboy34 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

No, it's not.

Yes, it is.

No, it's still not.

WaterInYourBath said:

eireboy34 said:

Yes, it is.

No, it's still not.

you know what? > WaterInYourBath ..i think that the majority on this forum...really don't give a shit about what you think!!

love2thenines2003 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

No, it's still not.

you know what? > WaterInYourBath ..i think that the majority on this forum...really don't give a shit about what you think!!

No! I l love a good debate!

Let's continue!!

....It still is.

love2thenines2003 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

No, it's still not.

you know what? > WaterInYourBath ..i think that the majority on this forum...really don't give a shit about what you think!!

and you, Lovetothenines2003, are rude and uneducated.

JoeTyler said:

love2thenines2003 said:

you know what? > WaterInYourBath ..i think that the majority on this forum...really don't give a shit about what you think!!

and you, Lovetothenines2003, are rude and uneducated.

stupidity induced stupidity my dear friend!!

Numan was definitely a big influence on Prince. As Joe says, I doubt there are very many artists from that time period using synths that weren't influenced by what Gary was doing.

Trent Reznor's also a huge fan, and has had Gary at his live shows. You can see Trent rockin' the tambourine on "Cars", but this was a song he covered in the studio and got to do live.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...hMqEXUspfs

I wouldn't be surprised if Devo (who were at the PR premiere) was on his radar as well. But as far as Kraftwerk go? Maybe when "Planet Rock" came out.

Bowie's "Station to Station" was when American R&B intersected with German synth music. After that, Bowie grabbed Eno (and Iggy Pop) and came up with some really strange music that was way ahead of its time, which of course led on his successful projects with Talking Heads and U2.

But for someone growing up in Minneapolis, he had a lot of resources when it comes to music. Any place that has public radio, late night DJs playing 'free form' music, a handful of clubs that bring in nationally known acts and college radio stations is going to get a pretty decent music education.

Militant said:

Numan was definitely a big influence on Prince. As Joe says, I doubt there are very many artists from that time period using synths that weren't influenced by what Gary was doing.

Hard to say. We take for granted that we can watch British TV appearances and find Tubeway Army records everywhere. Gary Numan had MTV exposure, but that was later. Gary Numan had a lot of contemporaries (Human League, OMD, Throbbin Gristle, etc.) who were just as likely to have been an influence on synth groups.

Oh, and let's not forget Klaus Nomi for the style.

treehouse said:

Militant said:

Numan was definitely a big influence on Prince. As Joe says, I doubt there are very many artists from that time period using synths that weren't influenced by what Gary was doing.

Hard to say. We take for granted that we can watch British TV appearances and find Tubeway Army records everywhere. Gary Numan had MTV exposure, but that was later. Gary Numan had a lot of contemporaries (Human League, OMD, Throbbin Gristle, etc.) who were just as likely to have been an influence on synth groups.

Oh, and let's not forget Klaus Nomi for the style.

True.