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Reply #120 posted 02/27/10 6:11am

lotusflower

thatsmrjaytou said:

It's a shame but it's a mess.What happened to writing a Song?with Melodies?Sorry to say but even this is better.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...492884.stm
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lol haha those BIRDS rock! biggrin good find...
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Reply #121 posted 02/27/10 6:22am

IstenSzek

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dawntreader said:

is there a bit of backward talking after the past and future soul song bit?


yes, a few people reversed it and it says something like (i can't remember
the exact phrase, someone help me out here)

contracts just make you smaller

which is typical prince wordplay since to contract is to get smaller lol
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #122 posted 02/27/10 6:24am

Waltervandenvo
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Still waiting for The Divine...
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Reply #123 posted 02/27/10 6:24am

love2thenines2
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Dave1992 said:

The track is a grower.



My first impression was neutral


After my 5th listen it was shrug


Then it was hmmm



And now it's definitely excited








Musically it's very exciting. I can understand why it's "too much" for some and why they say it's not focused enough, but I like that it takes a couple of listens to enjoy and understand this song.



I also dig the lyrics. I like his nod to the Gold/Chaos era (the Shy-like guitar part with similar rhymes to Gold and then the hint to Right The Wrong).




Great song.


MEA CULPA.....i have the same strange FEELING.....Only Prince can do that on me....this is why i love this Muthafucker SO MUCH!!!!


cool
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Reply #124 posted 02/27/10 6:27am

MISTERHANDS

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Prince said:

contracts just make you smaller


He should study some law, instead of the bible
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Reply #125 posted 02/27/10 6:30am

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I admit i didn´t like it at first but today i think it´s a nice little song with a few fun touches. nothing extraordinary but not atrocious either.

one thing is to be critical of his work (i am) but some of you are ridiculously harsh sometimes, imo.
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Reply #126 posted 02/27/10 6:30am

2elijah

I love the guitar solos in this song. It does have a rockabilly vibe to it;sort of like a Chuck Berry sound. Parts of it reminds me of the vibe in "You're the One I Wanna C" from the Planet Earth Album. The songs does take a few listens to appreciate it. Like I said before, it's a fun song, and will sound good live, with audience participation.

I bet if Bon Jovi made this song we'd get a different response, but because it's Prince and he dared to "go there" take risks and play sounds different than the ones some fans want to keep him bottled up into, like the Prince of the 70s/80s/90s, the criticism is much higher. You cannot tell me those guitar solos in that song are not off the freaking chain, combined with his screams in it.
headbang I'm having fun listening to this song. He intertwined, rock, funk a little gospel rock, and some heavy metal into one song.
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Reply #127 posted 02/27/10 6:35am

Purpracer2

I like the song. It's funky with all aspects of where Prince has grown musically. I just didn't know there were so many talented critiques here in the org. I just wonder why those who say they hate Prince are still here? There is Twitter, MyYearbook, Myspace and other places one could go to talk about whatever they wish without crapping on other people's opinions. It's amazing how quickly people turn on each other... disheartening.
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Reply #128 posted 02/27/10 6:40am

IstenSzek

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garganta said:

I admit i didn´t like it at first but today i think it´s a nice little song with a few fun touches. nothing extraordinary but not atrocious either.



same here. listening to it again for a few times this morning i think
it's ok. it doesn't excite me but i don't think it's very bad either,
it just leaves me a bit neutral.

i think the main reason for that is the production. it's just weird
to have the 'live' elements in it and at the same time the production
sounds rather lifeless and dull eventho the playing is on point.

that makes for a really weird mix and makes it sound a bit demo like
without having the raw quality of a demo, if that makes sense.

lol
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #129 posted 02/27/10 6:45am

OperatingTheta
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The Bible Study and JW interpretation of the Bible, their attendant lifestyle has without doubt reduced the lyricism of many of Prince's latest songs. They are difficult for non-JW's to relate to.

I was once involved with Jehovah's Witnesses and am on reasonable terms with many of the. There are some good people there. BUT, I am a published poet and writer and my creative work began to turn into serious dirge. I wrote or published nothing decent in two years. You simply can't 'go there'. It is either prohibited with you feeling the need to self-censor, or generates you to 'praise Jehovah with your creative abilties'. Of course, such preconcieved, pre-planned actions are not a marker of good art.

Just my experience.
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Reply #130 posted 02/27/10 6:49am

2elijah

OperatingThetan said:

The Bible Study and JW interpretation of the Bible, their attendant lifestyle has without doubt reduced the lyricism of many of Prince's latest songs. They are difficult for non-JW's to relate to.

I was once involved with Jehovah's Witnesses and am on reasonable terms with many of the. There are some good people there. BUT, I am a published poet and writer and my creative work began to turn into serious dirge. I wrote or published nothing decent in two years. You simply can't 'go there'. It is either prohibited with you feeling the need to self-censor, or generates you to 'praise Jehovah with your creative abilties'. Of course, such preconcieved, pre-planned actions are not a marker of good art.

Just my experience.


No disrespect, but it seems in that song and others he wrote, since he became a JW, that he already "took it there". Your experience is simply your own to "own", and you can't judge others by it.
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Reply #131 posted 02/27/10 6:57am

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IstenSzek said:

garganta said:

I admit i didn´t like it at first but today i think it´s a nice little song with a few fun touches. nothing extraordinary but not atrocious either.



same here. listening to it again for a few times this morning i think
it's ok. it doesn't excite me but i don't think it's very bad either,
it just leaves me a bit neutral.

i think the main reason for that is the production. it's just weird
to have the 'live' elements in it and at the same time the production
sounds rather lifeless and dull eventho the playing is on point.

that makes for a really weird mix and makes it sound a bit demo like
without having the raw quality of a demo, if that makes sense.

lol



it's so weird because after the first two or three listens the song sounded like an indigestible mess to me. But last night it started to make a little more sense. of course many people are not going to give it another chance if they think it´s horrible but i have always found that with Prince you have to be more patient and understanding,lol . Well, most of time wink
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Reply #132 posted 02/27/10 6:59am

RKJCNE

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I like it, don't love it. It sure beats anything on The Rainbow Children.
2012: The Queen Returns
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Reply #133 posted 02/27/10 6:59am

OperatingTheta
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2elijah said:

OperatingThetan said:

The Bible Study and JW interpretation of the Bible, their attendant lifestyle has without doubt reduced the lyricism of many of Prince's latest songs. They are difficult for non-JW's to relate to.

I was once involved with Jehovah's Witnesses and am on reasonable terms with many of the. There are some good people there. BUT, I am a published poet and writer and my creative work began to turn into serious dirge. I wrote or published nothing decent in two years. You simply can't 'go there'. It is either prohibited with you feeling the need to self-censor, or generates you to 'praise Jehovah with your creative abilties'. Of course, such preconcieved, pre-planned actions are not a marker of good art.

Just my experience.



No disrespect, but it seems in that song and others he wrote, since he became a JW, that he already "took it there". Your experience is simply your own to "own", and you can't judge others by it.
[Edited 2/27/10 6:51am]



Which of course, is why I wrote: 'Just my experience' ... . So, your point is ... .

'Took it there'? I can see a definite decline in Prince's lyrical ability since he became a JW. But then again, that is just my opinion.

I accept you have a differing views. These are my observations.

I'm not 'judging' Prince. That is over-reaction. I'm observing my responses with my personal experience. Experience I have actually had, experientially.
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Reply #134 posted 02/27/10 7:02am

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Okay. I figured out what was bugging me. Very simply, it's that goofy "I am here" opening. So I just performed a little snippity doo da before I put it in my iTunes. All better now! kiss2 wave

Just for the record, this is the first time I've ever done this to a Prince song. - and I didn't do it lightly. It's a definite improvement, IMO.
We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #135 posted 02/27/10 7:04am

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Genesia said:

Okay. I figured out what was bugging me. Very simply, it's that goofy "I am here" opening. So I just performed a little snippity doo da before I put it in my iTunes. All better now! kiss2 wave

Just for the record, this is the first time I've ever done this to a Prince song. - and I didn't do it lightly. It's a definite improvement, IMO.


omfg

I like the goofy opening! lol
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Reply #136 posted 02/27/10 7:05am

Genesia

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garganta said:

Genesia said:

Okay. I figured out what was bugging me. Very simply, it's that goofy "I am here" opening. So I just performed a little snippity doo da before I put it in my iTunes. All better now! kiss2 wave

Just for the record, this is the first time I've ever done this to a Prince song. - and I didn't do it lightly. It's a definite improvement, IMO.


omfg

I like the goofy opening! lol


Yeah, well...it made me say, "Shut up and sing." So... shrug lol
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Reply #137 posted 02/27/10 7:12am

Poiple

Damn....I knew it.....it's starting to grow on me (the song, that is).
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Reply #138 posted 02/27/10 7:22am

fakir

Love it and believe me it's a P song:Rock'n'Roll & Funky !
I don't really care about all these negative comments...
And people remember:this ain't 80's
You'll never gonna have PR2 or SOTT2 !!!
Some of you didn't like RC but those same hypocrites wrote
some nice reviews about how RC was his last true gem!
Com'on guys....We are not talking about a scientist who failed...
That's an artist piece of work.Some like it,some don't...Nobody
here is qualified to judge his music(he said it on a french tv)
The Ignorant asserts,The learned doubts,The wise thinks.

Aristotle
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Reply #139 posted 02/27/10 7:34am

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i put it on my fb so i can listen to it later right now its to early to say feelings about it .. has nice riffs n some odd sounds, ill keep listening to it .. so what ever hapnd to all day all night n monaco .. damn the man has loads of recorded recent concerts and music n all we get is this .. damn this guy sure has the market on selfish.



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Reply #140 posted 02/27/10 7:39am

TheVoid

I'm totally making fun or jabbing Prince here--I actually his song.

But why isn't it posted on lotusflow3r?
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Reply #141 posted 02/27/10 7:43am

alexnvrmind

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lol
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Reply #142 posted 02/27/10 7:50am

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http://pitchfork.com/news...nd-effect/

New Prince: "Cause and Effect"

This morning, the Twin Cities public radio station 89.3 The Current debuted a new and characteristically batshit Prince song called "Cause and Effect". It features screaming guitar solos, acoustic interludes, rumbling rockabilly riffs, fake crowd noise, and Flea-esque slap-bass, all of which is crammed into about five minutes. The track is now streaming on their website, and embedded below.


http://consequenceofsound...nd-effect/

Prince releases new song, “Cause and Effect”
By Alex Young on February 26th, 2010

Full of hooks, twists, and funk, Prince’s newest song, “Cause and Effect”, is an unpredictable five minute number that covers all of the legendary musician’s ever evolving sounds and styles. I want to describe it as Broken Social Scene-esque, but that’d probably piss off too many people. So, make your own judgments below (via The Current).


http://new-kidz.blogspot....ffect.html

Prince exclusively premiered a new song today titled “Cause and Effect” on an independent Minnesota radio station 89.3 as a gesture of support to independent radio.

The song is typical Prince funk but throws in a few other things on top like some wild electric guitar solos and an acoustic interlude, turning it all into one crazy, messy rock anthem.


http://blogs.citypages.co...ng_deb.php

Prince song "Cause and Effect" debuts to thunderous, pre-recorded applause
By Andrea Swensson in Purple ReignFri., Feb. 26 2010 @ 8:50AM

​As you've undoubtedly heard, earlier this week 89.3 the Current got their hands on an unreleased track by Prince, "Cause and Effect," and was given permission to debut it on their station. Understandably, the station was ecstatic about the opportunity, and have been hyping it up all week on air and on their site -- and guys, we're happy for you too, but after listening to the song this morning as it debuted on the station and then again on their website, we started to scratch our heads.

When the Current announced that they would air Prince's new track, the release was steeped in hyperbole, saying that the new song featured "a musically re-energized Prince," who was playing with "a vengeance unheard by the majority of his fans in years, or at least since that Super Bowl performance in 2007."

To our ears, this track is on par with the songs off one of his most recent albums, Lotusflow3r; in other words, there are some promising moments and a killer guitar solo, but there are also laughable, flat-out cheesy spots that kept us cringing throughout the song.

People, we have a fake applause situation. When one of our friends was listening to "Cause and Effect" for the first time, he remarked that it sounded like the background noise on the video game Rock Band. We giggled, and then became very, very sad. Honestly. Is there anything more depressing than the image of the Purple One at Paisley Park, wielding a plastic guitar with multi-colored buttons and playing with a backing band of cartoons?

This is not the mental image that we want in our heads when listening to Prince's latest "rock anthem."

Our reaction to the song was immediate and strong. We were horrified. Not only is there fake applause and cheering, but the five-minute track has so many different sections that it's hard to imagine it took very much time to slap together. The funky, distorted guitar of the intro has promise, but it immediately transitions into a hokey rockabilly guitar part and a chorus line shouting "hey HEY hey HEY hey HEY!"

Did we mention that the chorus line sounds like the cheering button on a Casio keyboard, and not actual voices?

Once we've endured the first segment, we're taken into a breakdown that, again, shows promise -- the distortion is back on, and it sounds like something amazing is about to happen. Maybe a guitar solo? Yes, it's a guitar solo! This is what we love most about Prince, he's an amazing guitarist! But wait, what is that? WHAT IS THAT NOISE.

Fuck. It's more fake crowd noise. Oh boy. The crowd's really going wild now. Prince must be getting a really high score on this round of Rock Band.

After a very brief, promising moment where Prince is singing into a distorted voicebox, it's back to the jaunty rockabilly, fake-shouting section, this time with someone growling, and then it builds up to the final guitar solo, and the solo is really amazing, but we can't really focus on the notes BECAUSE THE FAKE CROWD NOISE IS BACK. And then he's out, with one last chipper "Causeandeffect!"

We started laughing as soon as the song was over. But the DJs on the Current? They ate it up! They said that it was so good, they couldn't even find the words to describe it, and that they couldn't wait to play it several more times today! Are we missing something? Did we listen to a different song than they did?

It's totally and completely understandabe to be excited that Prince is back in town, that he's showing up at First Ave shows and hanging out at Envy and releasing new tracks to the local radio station. Maybe Prince will get his mojo back now that he's living in the Twin Cities, inspired by the overwhelming glow of our pale, white February skin. But we're not doing him any favors by eating up every little morsel of nonsense that he sends our way. Prince may be the most famous musician in Minnesota right now, but not everything he does is gold (hell, that Vikings disaster is not even a distant memory), and we don't have to pretend that it is.

"Cause and Effect" is a half-baked song filled with gimmicky, over-the-top moments. C'mon, Prince. We know you can do better than this.


http://www.myfoxtwincitie...thecurrent

New Prince Tune Cause and Effect Debuts
89.3 The Current releases new song to praise

Published : Friday, 26 Feb 2010, 8:17 AM CST

Prince debuted his new song "Cause and Effect" exclusively on Minnesota Public Radio's 89.3 The Current in the 7 a.m. hour.

"Cause and Effect" was received with overwhelming praise -- a 180-degree turn from the response to Prince's "Purple and Gold," a song in the style of a funeral dirge released just before the Minnesota Vikings vs New Orleans Saints game on FOX 9.

"Cause and Effect" opens with a live track of applause before transitioning into a studio recording.

Reaction from 89.3 The Current

"The tune is like a little mini-symphony of Prince-ness. It's got a few different sections, some that have that classic funky, sexy, sinewy Prince and some with his more rockish tendencies ... come to think of it, that makes it all classic Prince. Except the rock-y parts might be the hardest he's ever rocked, which is pretty notable in and of itself." -The Current's Steve Seel

When I heard "Cause and Effect" for the first time, the term "rock anthem" instantly came to mind. The new song will delight your senses and melt your face. -The Current's Jill Riley
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Reply #143 posted 02/27/10 7:52am

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squirrelgrease said:

http://pitchfork.com/news/38032-new-prince-cause-and-effect/

New Prince: "Cause and Effect"

This morning, the Twin Cities public radio station 89.3 The Current debuted a new and characteristically batshit Prince song called "Cause and Effect". It features screaming guitar solos, acoustic interludes, rumbling rockabilly riffs, fake crowd noise, and Flea-esque slap-bass, all of which is crammed into about five minutes. The track is now streaming on their website, and embedded below.


http://consequenceofsound...nd-effect/



http://www.myfoxtwincitie...thecurrent

New Prince Tune Cause and Effect Debuts
89.3 The Current releases new song to praise

Published : Friday, 26 Feb 2010, 8:17 AM CST

Prince debuted his new song "Cause and Effect" exclusively on Minnesota Public Radio's 89.3 The Current in the 7 a.m. hour.

"Cause and Effect" was received with overwhelming praise -- a 180-degree turn from the response to Prince's "Purple and Gold," a song in the style of a funeral dirge released just before the Minnesota Vikings vs New Orleans Saints game on FOX 9.

"Cause and Effect" opens with a live track of applause before transitioning into a studio recording.

Reaction from 89.3 The Current

"The tune is like a little mini-symphony of Prince-ness. It's got a few different sections, some that have that classic funky, sexy, sinewy Prince and some with his more rockish tendencies ... come to think of it, that makes it all classic Prince. Except the rock-y parts might be the hardest he's ever rocked, which is pretty notable in and of itself." -The Current's Steve Seel

When I heard "Cause and Effect" for the first time, the term "rock anthem" instantly came to mind. The new song will delight your senses and melt your face. -The Current's Jill Riley



is batshit a word ?
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Reply #144 posted 02/27/10 7:53am

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Waltervandenvogelwejde said:

Still waiting for The Divine...

whats the divine ?
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Reply #145 posted 02/27/10 7:56am

LleeLlee

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I listened to it on lotusflow3r.com

I now want $78 back.



Shut it.
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Reply #146 posted 02/27/10 7:58am

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THis new Song is so INFECTIOUS.....Fuck!!!

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Reply #147 posted 02/27/10 8:00am

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I like it... (not the lyrics), but everything else I can get into. The chorus is not catchy, but it has that "In a Large Room with No Light" (latest one) aspect of not having a catchy chorus but your mind wraps around the larger picture to appreciate.
Change it one more time..
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Reply #148 posted 02/27/10 8:05am

alexnvrmind

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Not good .

Not bad.

Not worth another listen,however if a new artist put this shit out some here on this board would be eating this shit up like it was free Whoppers.

Good to see the legendary NuPwrSoul back on the scene!!!!
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Such a true statement in regards to 'a new artist' releasing a song like this, which is saying something about most of the music on the radio now, but that's a different argument for another day.

However this just validates the point even more, which is why a musician of Prince's caliber would release something like this, even as a one time event to a local radio station.
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Reply #149 posted 02/27/10 8:05am

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fingertips said:

squirrelgrease said:

http://pitchfork.com/news/38032-new-prince-cause-and-effect/




is batshit a word ?


I use the term batshit. Bat guano doesn't pack the same punch.
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