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Reply #150 posted 02/27/10 8:07am

Genesia

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TheVoid said:

I'm totally making fun or jabbing Prince here--I actually his song.

But why isn't it posted on lotusflow3r?


It is on lotusflow3r. You have to click on the "music" tab on your dashboard.

You can't download it, but there are ways, Grasshopper... lurking
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Reply #151 posted 02/27/10 8:08am

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You know the more I listen to it, the more I appreciate who Prince is. I like that he's makes music that pisses people off. I love uncompromising difficult people who make uncompromising music. Thats just a sign of true artistry IMO...
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Change it one more time..
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Reply #152 posted 02/27/10 8:12am

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"fake applause situation" falloff
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Reply #153 posted 02/27/10 8:13am

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Rolling Stone Reviews their are mix reviews like Prince. Org
Here's the link: http://www.rollingstone.c...lic-radio/


A new Prince song called “Cause and Effect” debuted this morning on Minnesota public radio, with Prince personally offering the Twin Cities’ the Current 89.3 the world premiere of the song as a gesture in support of independent radio. Stylistically, “Cause and Effect” seems to find the middle ground between Prince’s guitar rock album Lotusflow3r and its funked-up companion disc MPLSound, but with some elements of surf rock and his old school rave-ups like “It’s Gonna Be a Beautiful Night.” Listen to the rocker above.

This is the second time in as many months Prince has unveiled a Minnesota-centric track: As Rolling Stone previously reported, during the Minnesota Vikings’ NFL run, the Paisley Park native, who was seen in the luxury box at the Vikes’ victory over the Dallas Cowboys, penned a fight song called “Purple and Gold” for the Brett Favre-led team. This isn’t Prince’s first time using radio airwaves to debut new material either, as Indie 103 premiered four songs from Prince’s Lotusflow3r box set back in December 2008.
According to the Current’s site, Prince wants to know how listeners feel about “Cause and Effect” — perhaps surveying fans to see if they like this direction before starting work on his next one-to-three albums — so have your say on the Purple




http://www.myfoxtwincitie...thecurrent

[quote]New Prince Tune Cause and Effect Debuts
89.3 The Current releases new song to praise

Published : Friday, 26 Feb 2010, 8:17 AM CST

Prince debuted his new song "Cause and Effect" exclusively on Minnesota Public Radio's 89.3 The Current in the 7 a.m. hour.

"Cause and Effect" was received with overwhelming praise -- a 180-degree turn from the response to Prince's "Purple and Gold," a song in the style of a funeral dirge released just before the Minnesota Vikings vs New Orleans Saints game on FOX 9.

"Cause and Effect" opens with a live track of applause before transitioning into a studio recording.

Reaction from 89.3 The Current

"The tune is like a little mini-symphony of Prince-ness. It's got a few different sections, some that have that classic funky, sexy, sinewy Prince and some with his more rockish tendencies ... come to think of it, that makes it all classic Prince. Except the rock-y parts might be the hardest he's ever rocked, which is pretty notable in and of itself." -The Current's Steve Seel

When I heard "Cause and Effect" for the first time, the term "rock anthem" instantly came to mind. The new song will delight your senses and melt your face. -The Current's Jill Riley.

You did a great thing letting your fans hear your music "Cause and Effect" first. Letting them have a say so on how your music is heard.
That takes a strong Human-Being. Thank You Prince
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Reply #154 posted 02/27/10 8:32am

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Jolly good piece of music, most enjoyable!
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Reply #155 posted 02/27/10 8:32am

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Oh ... quite embarassing after my prior comments here but I LOVE THIS SONG!

Like a mini-rock opera. Of course, it's eclectic and free-wheeling: it's Prince.

Lyrics were pretty good to me. Not JW-influenced at all.

Not sure what all the criticism is about really. You guys actually made me worry about hearing this.
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Reply #156 posted 02/27/10 8:33am

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lezama said:

You know the more I listen to it, the more I appreciate who Prince is. I like that he's makes music that pisses people off. I love uncompromising difficult people who make uncompromising music. Thats just a sign of true artistry IMO...
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I love that about him, too.
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Reply #157 posted 02/27/10 8:36am

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OperatingThetan said:

The Bible Study and JW interpretation of the Bible, their attendant lifestyle has without doubt reduced the lyricism of many of Prince's latest songs. They are difficult for non-JW's to relate to.

I was once involved with Jehovah's Witnesses and am on reasonable terms with many of the. There are some good people there. BUT, I am a published poet and writer and my creative work began to turn into serious dirge. I wrote or published nothing decent in two years. You simply can't 'go there'. It is either prohibited with you feeling the need to self-censor, or generates you to 'praise Jehovah with your creative abilties'. Of course, such preconcieved, pre-planned actions are not a marker of good art.

Just my experience.


I need to QUALIFY this:

This post was a general one, in regard to other replies regarding lyricism, not the song 'Cause And Effect' itself.

'Dreamer', 'Colonized Mind' and 'Somewhere Here on Earth' are among my favourite Prince songs. I am not suggesting Prince is no still making great songs, but sometimes I sense he is holding back and censoring himself.
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Reply #158 posted 02/27/10 8:49am

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OK, I finally heard it this morning. It wasn't great at all but it wasn't absolutely horrible either. It was simply bland. It was just "there". On a positive note, at least it had no elements of silly shit hop in it. I'm at least thankful for that. lol
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Reply #159 posted 02/27/10 8:52am

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~like it...Prince, U can tear up a guitar!!! XO wink
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Reply #160 posted 02/27/10 8:55am

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vainandy said:

OK, I finally heard it this morning. It wasn't great at all but it wasn't absolutely horrible either. It was simply bland. It was just "there". On a positive note, at least it had no elements of silly shit hop in it. I'm at least thankful for that. lol


Hey, everybody! Look! vainandy didn't hate it!

Now, that's progress. lol
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Reply #161 posted 02/27/10 8:56am

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You know I listend to it 4 times before posting to make sure I knew what I thought.

And I really love it. There are some mix decisions I wouldn't of made ( like the hey's on the intro) but In the grand scheme of things that means nothing and it doesn't stop me really enjoying the song

Wait I must really like it I've just started to play it for the 5th time.
I like the lyrics "If you stamp your passport full of regret you'll have nothing to remember but alot to forget"

It sounds like Cybersingle and Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad"

Yes it's no Colonized Mind but It doesn't pretend to be.

It also has elements where it sounds like one of Barenaked Ladies quirkier songs
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Reply #162 posted 02/27/10 8:57am

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Yuck. This is just dreadful.
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Reply #163 posted 02/27/10 9:03am

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I'm digging it.

Still not wild about the synth and the lack of low end. That could be due to the quality of the mp3 though.

I can do without some of the lyrics as well. If they are truly "made in the image of God and elect" that makes me wanna barf a little.

I guess despite it's flaws, I 'm still enjoying the track.

I give Prince props for supporting public radio as well.
Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it.
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Reply #164 posted 02/27/10 9:05am

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Genesia said:

vainandy said:

OK, I finally heard it this morning. It wasn't great at all but it wasn't absolutely horrible either. It was simply bland. It was just "there". On a positive note, at least it had no elements of silly shit hop in it. I'm at least thankful for that. lol


Hey, everybody! Look! vainandy didn't hate it!

Now, that's progress. lol


All it takes is hearing all that silly foolishness and nonsense on "MPLShit" to make a bland new song sound better. It's kinda like feeling better to only be slapped rather than beat down. lol
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Reply #165 posted 02/27/10 9:08am

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Genesia said:

Okay. I figured out what was bugging me. Very simply, it's that goofy "I am here" opening. .


you didnt like the Coachella sample? lol
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Reply #166 posted 02/27/10 9:15am

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Not sure if its been said...But it sounds like Prince went into the vault from Chaos and Disorder and decided to use this left over from the album...
"The little 1 will escort u 2 the places within ur mind"
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Reply #167 posted 02/27/10 9:25am

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It's a good song, nothing more, nothing less. The beats in the verses are a bit too bombastic, the song improves in the choruses, and I really like the part from 2:59-3:20 starting with: "don't let them say your paper's worth more than gold".
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Reply #168 posted 02/27/10 10:00am

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fingertips said:



i put it on my fb so i can listen to it later right now its to early to say feelings about it .. has nice riffs n some odd sounds, ill keep listening to it .. so what ever hapnd to all day all night n monaco .. damn the man has loads of recorded recent concerts and music n all we get is this .. damn this guy sure has the market on selfish.



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I love this Peacock disc. I love Peacocks. These birds are sumthin' else. cool
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Reply #169 posted 02/27/10 10:05am

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Love the song!
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Reply #170 posted 02/27/10 10:06am

zaza

Tame said:

fingertips said:



i put it on my fb so i can listen to it later right now its to early to say feelings about it .. has nice riffs n some odd sounds, ill keep listening to it .. so what ever hapnd to all day all night n monaco .. damn the man has loads of recorded recent concerts and music n all we get is this .. damn this guy sure has the market on selfish.



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I love this Peacock disc. I love Peacocks. These birds are sumthin' else. cool

Are you sure you don't want to join our cock mafia? ..Because you just turned this thread into another "cock" thread lol
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Reply #171 posted 02/27/10 10:11am

Vendetta1

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Yo, Billy Jack Bitches...this song is still better than anything on the radio. if u cant figure out what its about..its called KARMA...try not to shyt where u eat bitchsquad.
Some of Prince's fans are batshit crazy.
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Reply #172 posted 02/27/10 10:14am

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Vendetta1 said:

lotusboy said:

Yo, Billy Jack Bitches...this song is still better than anything on the radio. if u cant figure out what its about..its called KARMA...try not to shyt where u eat bitchsquad.
Some of Prince's fans are batshit crazy.


batshit
theres that word again .. k im not dign it ..
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Reply #173 posted 02/27/10 10:19am

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Some of us will Always respect that Prince offers us pieces of his Heart.

Even if we have to watch the dogs ravage them! cool
all that love in your heart and yet you refer to people as "dogs". Very christian of you.

it is perfectly okay for people to say they don't like a Prince song. Some of you need to truly get over yourselves.
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Reply #174 posted 02/27/10 10:24am

zaza

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Tame said:

Some of us will Always respect that Prince offers us pieces of his Heart.

Even if we have to watch the dogs ravage them! cool
all that love in your heart and yet you refer to people as "dogs". Very christian of you.

it is perfectly okay for people to say they don't like a Prince song. Some of you need to truly get over yourselves.

You hater! How dare you?! mad lol

Btw, Tame said in one thread she could forget about 4 or 5 Prince's songs..if only Prince heard that.. no no no! Tame, where is that so-called "love"? razz
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Reply #175 posted 02/27/10 10:25am

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NuPwrSoul said:

His art no longer asks questions, but aspires to provide answers. It's not inviting. When he declares, "I am here" and then asks "Where are you?" one gets the sense that he's not really interested in where "you" are, as much as he is preoccupied in telling us where "I am." This artist believes his "here" is where everyone should be.

It's an old and tried true story, but one gets the sense that in his work it is forced or contrived--it's not organic. His metaphors and language is too easily and directly drawn from religious scripture. Maybe Prince feels if you're going to, what better to signify on than what's believed to be Divine words? What it means is that we're not going to get yellow daisies in the yard, bubble baths with pants on, animals striking curious poses or any of that weird-only-Prince-could-come-up-with-this-shit type of language.

Now THAT is well said! Think back to 2004 when Musicology was out, and he was saying "I am music." That seems very off, and ego-driven to me, to the point that it went beyond knowing you're a professional and gifted, to "There will never be another like me". Maybe not, but pride comes before a fall. Lucifer thought he could be better than God, and look where that got him. Forever damned. I think Prince has been tumbling down hill for a long time, and it's a very slippery slope.

It's a bit like a mad genius. They start out as a prodigy, then end up curing AIDS or something, then go wacky and start trying to cross breed roses with chickens or something. The same goes for writers. The all have that "zone" of perfection, rawness, and incredible prowess, then they get too comfortable with the gift. They don't hone it anymore. They hit a brick wall, and think "I've achieved everything with this gift, now I can rest on that and do whatever." Yes, but when you were "doing whatever", and you were still in the mode of honing the gift, THAT'S when it was good. When they rest on the gift and just dally around with it is when everything goes wacky . I feel like Prince is slowly seeping into that mad genius phase now, where everything is going to be so off the wall and weird that no one will give a shit anymore.

I've said it before - Prince has forgotten who "Prince" is, and what he's all about.

None of my comments have anything to do with the song. I was just bouncing off what you said.



Ok Ernest so what do you think of the song? i like it, it's nothing like Lotus, to me it's a bit like some of the rock tracks from Musicology.


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Reply #176 posted 02/27/10 10:27am

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RKJCNE said:

I like it, don't love it. It sure beats anything on The Rainbow Children.


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Reply #177 posted 02/27/10 10:31am

Vendetta1

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Vendetta1 said:

all that love in your heart and yet you refer to people as "dogs". Very christian of you.

it is perfectly okay for people to say they don't like a Prince song. Some of you need to truly get over yourselves.

You hater! How dare you?! mad lol

Btw, Tame said in one thread she could forget about 4 or 5 Prince's songs..if only Prince heard that.. no no no! Tame, where is that so-called "love"? razz
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lol You know zaza, I don't care about some of these people on the internet think about me. There is no way in hell that someone likes every single song Prince has made. If they say that shit here, they are lying.
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Reply #178 posted 02/27/10 10:39am

zaza

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zaza said:


You hater! How dare you?! mad lol

Btw, Tame said in one thread she could forget about 4 or 5 Prince's songs..if only Prince heard that.. no no no! Tame, where is that so-called "love"? razz
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lol You know zaza, I don't care about some of these people on the internet think about me. There is no way in hell that someone likes every single song Prince has made. If they say that shit here, they are lying.

Of course they're lying or they're "just one of those haters who don't like Prince cool" lol

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Reply #179 posted 02/27/10 10:45am

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Brilliant wee man! biggrin

Logical process . . . cause and effect.
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