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Reply #510 posted 03/01/10 1:02pm

NDRU

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:



No it's not.

yes it is. This song is full of fake Joy. Play in the sunshine is pure unadulterated joy. Imposter.


I don't buy that, Prince has always been proclaiming "now I'm free" and it's always been attributed to god or some other life change. Play in the Sunshine is only another attempt. When he says "some way, some how, I just got to have fun!!" he is screaming as if forcing it to happen through sheer will power. That is not the sound of true joy, it's the sound of pain.

Everything from his attempts to downplay his dirty nature to his spiritual awakening to suing to control his name/image to people not digging his new music is all stuff we've seen for 25 years.

People act like prince has changed. I don't think he's changed at all. Maybe his music is not as good, of course, but fundamentally is he any different? Not in my eyes. Just older.
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Reply #511 posted 03/01/10 1:03pm

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My only criticism? I can't pop into town and buy it. I really hate downloads and streams. I like to buy things and be able to hold them. Does no one realise the value this places on items anymore?
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Reply #512 posted 03/01/10 1:04pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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NDRU said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


yes it is. This song is full of fake Joy. Play in the sunshine is pure unadulterated joy. Imposter.


I don't buy that, Prince has always been proclaiming "now I'm free" and it's always been attributed to god or some other life change. Play in the Sunshine is only another attempt. When he says "some way, some how, I just got to have fun!!" he is screaming as if forcing it to happen through sheer will power. That is not the sound of true joy, it's the sound of pain.

Everything from his attempts to downplay his dirty nature to his spiritual awakening to suing to control his name/image to people not digging his new music is all stuff we've seen for 25 years.

People act like prince has changed. I don't think he's changed at all. Maybe his music is not as good, of course, but fundamentally is he any different? Not in my eyes. Just older.


Play in the Sunshine is elevation, let's put it that way. There is nothing elevated about this track lol
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Reply #513 posted 03/01/10 1:18pm

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the more i hear cause & effect, the more i like it....
Very energetic, heavy drums, sharp guitar....good song!!

the bridge is fun....love the guitar sound^^
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Reply #514 posted 03/01/10 1:18pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NDRU said:



I don't buy that, Prince has always been proclaiming "now I'm free" and it's always been attributed to god or some other life change. Play in the Sunshine is only another attempt. When he says "some way, some how, I just got to have fun!!" he is screaming as if forcing it to happen through sheer will power. That is not the sound of true joy, it's the sound of pain.

Everything from his attempts to downplay his dirty nature to his spiritual awakening to suing to control his name/image to people not digging his new music is all stuff we've seen for 25 years.

People act like prince has changed. I don't think he's changed at all. Maybe his music is not as good, of course, but fundamentally is he any different? Not in my eyes. Just older.


Play in the Sunshine is elevation, let's put it that way. There is nothing elevated about this track lol


aye, one is all-inclusive, the other is a declaration of self.

at least we now know he eats his spinach razz

Cx
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Reply #515 posted 03/01/10 1:27pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NDRU said:



I don't buy that, Prince has always been proclaiming "now I'm free" and it's always been attributed to god or some other life change. Play in the Sunshine is only another attempt. When he says "some way, some how, I just got to have fun!!" he is screaming as if forcing it to happen through sheer will power. That is not the sound of true joy, it's the sound of pain.

Everything from his attempts to downplay his dirty nature to his spiritual awakening to suing to control his name/image to people not digging his new music is all stuff we've seen for 25 years.

People act like prince has changed. I don't think he's changed at all. Maybe his music is not as good, of course, but fundamentally is he any different? Not in my eyes. Just older.


Play in the Sunshine is elevation, let's put it that way. There is nothing elevated about this track lol


he was working harder back then, to be sure

I do see people's points when they bash Prince's new music, I just like to point out that Prince has always had those moments that warrant criticism. If you judged Play in the Sunshine from a songwriting perspective you could say it has no melody.

Songs like The Arms of Orion have shown his cheesy side.

His lyrics have always had moments of 3rd grade level wisdom.

I'm not arguing in favor of Purple & Gold or this song, specifically, just saying it may not be fair to discount him completely when he's shown weaknesses from the start, and also had strong songs on his last album. He's also been a difficult personality, into god & lawsuits equally, for a very long time. He's not different now, he's just older. When people say he's an asshole now that just proves my point. He's always been an asshole.
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Reply #516 posted 03/01/10 1:35pm

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NDRU said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Play in the Sunshine is elevation, let's put it that way. There is nothing elevated about this track lol


he was working harder back then, to be sure

I do see people's points when they bash Prince's new music, I just like to point out that Prince has always had those moments that warrant criticism. If you judged Play in the Sunshine from a songwriting perspective you could say it has no melody.

Songs like The Arms of Orion have shown his cheesy side.

His lyrics have always had moments of 3rd grade level wisdom.

I'm not arguing in favor of Purple & Gold or this song, specifically, just saying it may not be fair to discount him completely when he's shown weaknesses from the start, and also had strong songs on his last album. He's also been a difficult personality, into god & lawsuits equally, for a very long time. He's not different now, he's just older. When people say he's an asshole now that just proves my point. He's always been an asshole.




Like u would know. R u a multi Grammy song writer musician or a wanna be? This site makes me sick with these judgmental weird people...
eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #517 posted 03/01/10 1:41pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

NDRU said:



he was working harder back then, to be sure

I do see people's points when they bash Prince's new music, I just like to point out that Prince has always had those moments that warrant criticism. If you judged Play in the Sunshine from a songwriting perspective you could say it has no melody.

Songs like The Arms of Orion have shown his cheesy side.

His lyrics have always had moments of 3rd grade level wisdom.

I'm not arguing in favor of Purple & Gold or this song, specifically, just saying it may not be fair to discount him completely when he's shown weaknesses from the start, and also had strong songs on his last album. He's also been a difficult personality, into god & lawsuits equally, for a very long time. He's not different now, he's just older. When people say he's an asshole now that just proves my point. He's always been an asshole.




Like u would know. R u a multi Grammy song writer musician or a wanna be? This site makes me sick with these judgmental weird people...


I'm not sure you really understood what I wrote, I am actually defending prince lol

My point is he has always had aspects of his music & personality that you could criticize, just like any other person. He was not perfect back then and he's not really different now--in my opinion, of course because you are right I am just a wanna be, I don't actually know anything about prince!
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Reply #518 posted 03/01/10 1:51pm

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NDRU said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:





Like u would know. R u a multi Grammy song writer musician or a wanna be? This site makes me sick with these judgmental weird people...


I'm not sure you really understood what I wrote, I am actually defending prince lol

My point is he has always had aspects of his music & personality that you could criticize, just like any other person. He was not perfect back then and he's not really different now--in my opinion, of course because you are right I am just a wanna be, I don't actually know anything about prince!
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AND

YOU'RE

A

MUSICIAN!


lol
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Reply #519 posted 03/01/10 2:01pm

NDRU

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NDRU said:



I'm not sure you really understood what I wrote, I am actually defending prince lol

My point is he has always had aspects of his music & personality that you could criticize, just like any other person. He was not perfect back then and he's not really different now--in my opinion, of course because you are right I am just a wanna be, I don't actually know anything about prince!
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AND

YOU'RE

A

MUSICIAN!


lol


lol true, though I think the real point is he forms an opinion of me as "weird" & "judgemental" after 3 sentences, because I have formed an opinion about Prince after 25 years of being a fan.
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Reply #520 posted 03/01/10 2:06pm

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I love the rock edge and the bridge/chorus to the song. I even like the chants.

I wish the verses weren't slowed down though, would have preferred the ENTIRE song to ROCK.
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Reply #521 posted 03/01/10 2:17pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NDRU said:



I'm not sure you really understood what I wrote, I am actually defending prince lol

My point is he has always had aspects of his music & personality that you could criticize, just like any other person. He was not perfect back then and he's not really different now--in my opinion, of course because you are right I am just a wanna be, I don't actually know anything about prince!
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AND

YOU'RE

A

MUSICIAN!


lol





I'm a triple threat
eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #522 posted 03/01/10 2:41pm

funkyhead

oh shit, it's starting to grow on me! :-(somebody help - my standards are dropping, the bars been dropped too low....hel.....p sad
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Reply #523 posted 03/01/10 2:55pm

mrsquirrel

hello, i am a web designer

regarding the backwards message on Cause and Effect, i would describe the word 'Submit' as something you keep your hand in, especially when cold.

on the topic of using PHP session variables to keep people out of your paid-for music and video folders?

Priceless.

Cx

for everything else, there's a change of address and no questions asked.
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Reply #524 posted 03/01/10 3:32pm

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Hey! I like the song!
It is a song that Prince made for himself,
designed for his own appeasement,
and shared with us -- free of cost, I might add wink

Like it or not, he is saying this is who I am,
I accept who I am -- mistakes and all --
and I refuse to live my life wrothed with regrets;
other than, of course, those he highlighted that still
need some fixing..and that he may be working on as we speak.

Guilt and remorse are loads of wicked emotions to
carry around in one's soul. He has buried his and
has made peace with his demons.

I like the rebirth, and I'm ready to hear what he has to
say next.
And the next one .. we will have to pay for it!
It ain't gonna be free lol lol
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Reply #525 posted 03/01/10 3:49pm

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funksoldier said:

CoCoCrip said:

Brothers and sisters, Eye sit here and must grin
No wonder He has an issue with His next of kin
What's with all The Hatred? Why all The Strife?
Are we not gathered here 2 get through this thing called life?

The Cause of The CONfusion, ONE would have 2 suspect
Is The Lack of understanding The Image of God's intellect
Eye've PROvided a link that might help clear things up
But by no means am Eye saying that U must drink from that cup

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/1014.htm

No child is bad from The Beginning, was that not made clear?
Eye Am troubled by all The Child abuse going on around here
IT transcends The Physical, IT hurts more than a slap
What is The Cause and effect of labeling any child, "crap"?

Is IT better 4 ONE 2 keep The Children under lock and key
Sheltered from all The Haters and those that wannabe?
If The Children were orphans would this have been The Reaction?
Behold The Cause and effect on The Late Michael Jackson

But that's anOTHER subject perhaps 4 anOTHER court
If U want 2 go there, U'll have 2 stamp your own passport
Eye Am here, where are U? Are U still stuck in The Past?
Remember, my 'friends', all good things, they say, never last

Anyway, 4give Me 4 interrupting, and putting my two cents in
But all this lack of compassion just adds 2 The Urge 2 taste sin
Seems The Thieves won't be happy until The Last temple's destroyed
Only then will The Fruits of ONE's labor truly be enjoyed

-> CoCoCrip <-

"Drugs Just Make U Smaller"

"Did U Ever Stop 2 Wonder Why U Put Another Down?
No Man Should Asunder, The Joy That Another Man Found"

reading



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Reply #526 posted 03/01/10 4:02pm

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Brofie said:

Sometimes I wonder if a musical genius will actually make something that outside the comprehension of the average person and some repeated exposure and study to required to truly "get it".


Nah, there's nothing deep to get ('outside the comprehension of the average person'? falloff ). He made a shit song and right now he simply isn't capable of doing any better. shrug
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Reply #527 posted 03/01/10 4:08pm

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I listened to it on lotusflow3r.com

I now want $78 back.



Shut it.


$79
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Reply #528 posted 03/01/10 4:46pm

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Fauxie said:

Brofie said:

Sometimes I wonder if a musical genius will actually make something that outside the comprehension of the average person and some repeated exposure and study to required to truly "get it".


Nah, there's nothing deep to get ('outside the comprehension of the average person'? falloff ). He made a shit song and right now he simply isn't capable of doing any better. shrug


not sure I agree.

even if I am wrong in thinking there are some non-shit songs on MPLSound, I think most of the outrage from his fans is because they know he IS still capable of a non-shit song, but for some reason doesn't deliver like he used to.
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Reply #529 posted 03/01/10 4:54pm

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When is Dolly Parton gonna sue his punk ass..lol
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #530 posted 03/01/10 4:57pm

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NDRU said:

Fauxie said:



Nah, there's nothing deep to get ('outside the comprehension of the average person'? falloff ). He made a shit song and right now he simply isn't capable of doing any better. shrug


not sure I agree.

even if I am wrong in thinking there are some non-shit songs on MPLSound, I think most of the outrage from his fans is because they know he IS still capable of a non-shit song, but for some reason doesn't deliver like he used to.


I used to think that too. Held out hope since after TRC (which I like!) that he could still do it, but not anymore. I honestly don't think he's capable, but time will tell. There have been 'non-shit' songs since 2001, but there haven't been any great ones, to my mind. That's almost ten years already so I'm not holding my breath that he'll suddenly regain his former spark and write a great track. To me he's done until he proves otherwise and I'll just keep a casual eye on him from afar. lol
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Reply #531 posted 03/01/10 4:59pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

When is Dolly Parton gonna sue his punk ass..lol



That would be so Awesome!! biggrin
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Reply #532 posted 03/01/10 5:00pm

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Fauxie said:

NDRU said:



not sure I agree.

even if I am wrong in thinking there are some non-shit songs on MPLSound, I think most of the outrage from his fans is because they know he IS still capable of a non-shit song, but for some reason doesn't deliver like he used to.


I used to think that too. Held out hope since after TRC (which I like!) that he could still do it, but not anymore. I honestly don't think he's capable, but time will tell. There have been 'non-shit' songs since 2001, but there haven't been any great ones, to my mind. That's almost ten years already so I'm not holding my breath that he'll suddenly regain his former spark and write a great track. To me he's done until he proves otherwise and I'll just keep a casual eye on him from afar. lol


yeah when I heard TRC it gave me much higher expectations for this decade than actually happened.
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Reply #533 posted 03/01/10 5:01pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

When is Dolly Parton gonna sue his punk ass..lol


lol seriously, that's the worst part of this whole thing
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Reply #534 posted 03/01/10 5:13pm

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NDRU said:

Fauxie said:



I used to think that too. Held out hope since after TRC (which I like!) that he could still do it, but not anymore. I honestly don't think he's capable, but time will tell. There have been 'non-shit' songs since 2001, but there haven't been any great ones, to my mind. That's almost ten years already so I'm not holding my breath that he'll suddenly regain his former spark and write a great track. To me he's done until he proves otherwise and I'll just keep a casual eye on him from afar. lol


yeah when I heard TRC it gave me much higher expectations for this decade than actually happened.


nod It was the last time I was truly and fully excited about a new Prince album once I'd got it in my hands and listened to it in full. Ever since then it's been more about hoping for the best and picking out tracks I like from the crud. Having to try to like stuff, basically, like salvage work. lol
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Reply #535 posted 03/01/10 5:47pm

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I just really have a hard time believing -- or accepting -- that Prince himself thinks that this is a good song.

I think that's what I expect from him the most . . . the knowledge, experience, and taste to know when something is better left unheard. Not every sonic "doodle" deserves to be heard.
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Reply #536 posted 03/01/10 6:29pm

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NDRU said:

Fauxie said:



Nah, there's nothing deep to get ('outside the comprehension of the average person'? falloff ). He made a shit song and right now he simply isn't capable of doing any better. shrug


not sure I agree.

even if I am wrong in thinking there are some non-shit songs on MPLSound, I think most of the outrage from his fans is because they know he IS still capable of a non-shit song, but for some reason doesn't deliver like he used to.


I was just offering the theory - any credible verification of it would probably require some input from a musical genius (which I assume doesn't post negativity here with little moving cartoon emoticons) - but then what do I know...other than that I am not a genius?
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Reply #537 posted 03/01/10 6:39pm

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Brofie said:

NDRU said:



not sure I agree.

even if I am wrong in thinking there are some non-shit songs on MPLSound, I think most of the outrage from his fans is because they know he IS still capable of a non-shit song, but for some reason doesn't deliver like he used to.


I was just offering the theory - any credible verification of it would probably require some input from a musical genius (which I assume doesn't post negativity here with little moving cartoon emoticons) - but then what do I know...other than that I am not a genius?


Credibility and 'genius' are subjective too, but anyway... though I think your theory in general is an interesting one, in regards to this track I find it hilarious. In every way I can think of this track offers nothing of a deep or complex nature that might reward further listens or be unlocked by a 'greater comprehension than the average person'. If such a claim were to be made this would be the last song to use as an example. lol There's just no substance there whatsoever 'beyond' a typical modern pop song, though it should be noted there most definitely is a lack of several qualities usually possessed by a typical modern pop song.
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Reply #538 posted 03/01/10 6:55pm

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NDRU said:

2freaky4church1 said:

When is Dolly Parton gonna sue his punk ass..lol


lol seriously, that's the worst part of this whole thing

I've been thinking this same thing! Dolly would put him in his place! wink

somebody needs to jump on that 9to5/C&E mashup/remix!!! lol
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Reply #539 posted 03/01/10 8:03pm

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Se7en said:

I just really have a hard time believing -- or accepting -- that Prince himself thinks that this is a good song.

I think that's what I expect from him the most . . . the knowledge, experience, and taste to know when something is better left unheard. Not every sonic "doodle" deserves to be heard.


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