I agree, Prince is soo insulated he would never collaborate with any artists that are current and popular like Allicia Keys, Pharel Williams, Andra 3000, this is why he will never have a song that is commercially sucessfull and played on radio, he always states he does not care about chat positions, its just as well because with this drival no one will give a fuck, it is just plain, boring, tired old P cack.

of course but the music reflected the storms or parades that were happening in his psyche. Now all we get is a a facade.

the better soundquality on the lotusflower site surely does
enhance the listening pleasure.

you don't have to show your own vulnerability to write a great song:

listen to "the balad of dorothy parker"

sure he mentions himself, but in the way the narrator of a novel is
speaking to you of their experience. the narrator, not the author.

But does it make the song better?

a little bit, yes

but the "why you wanna treat me so bad" rehearsal comes
on right after it's finished and when it does, part of
me goes "sigh, finally, an actual melody"



my karma card is soooo full of stamps right now

you don't have to show your own vulnerability to write a great song:

listen to "the balad of dorothy parker"

sure he mentions himself, but in the way the narrator of a novel is
speaking to you of their experience. the narrator, not the author.

prince can write good works of fiction when it comes to feelings or
human relationships. i'm sure that 95% of the songs that people are
thinking of as "prince showing his personal vulnerability or where
he gives us a look into his private affairs" are nothing more than
purely fictional lyrics. which is just fine.

he just worded it more elegantly and more in a more universal way
in the past. he still does at times but his vocabulary seems to be
stuck in the same groove. for instance, it seems like a lovesong
can't be a lovesong anymore unless the feelings mentioned or the
love serenaded is "forever", "everlasting", "eternal" etc etc.

gone are the days of washing each other's hair or being still and
holding one another to imagine what silence looks like. gone are
even the days of wanting to take a brush and paint a wall around
you so that you will never have to feel the pain and suffering that
is a part of the human condition.

i found a slight glimmer of hope in "love like jazz" which has a
more free flowing approach to the subjest. but "4ever", which is
the only song on Lotusflower that i slighty dislike, once again
suffers from what i'm trying to pinpoint.

much of that has to be directly related to his beliefs, no doubt.
but if you're gonna sing about a taste for sin or splitting the
boards behind the bed in two and yet restrict yourself in other
ways to please the religious side of yourself, i think you're
measuring with painfully double standards.

didn't he recently say about a song that mentioned making love
that 'it might be about this girl who could be THE ONE" or some
weird stuff like that. as if he has to consolidate any thoughts
about wanting to have sex to the idea that it's ok because we
will get married. wtf? lol.

he used to be a good lyricist. never the best. certainly no joni
mitchell, but than again, how many other artists are? he did well
and wrote stuff we could relate to or stuff that was abstract
enough to fit anyone like a glove, no matter how they approached
it.

the lyrics are still interesting and even great in a few places
but the pallet is so limited. there's only so many times you can
sing about the evil record executives, the contracts or about
how good you are and what a bad mofo you are in the studio etc.

my main problem with MJ after the first trial was that he could not
let the matter rest in his music after he'd sung about it a few
times. but he hung on to it for too long. every other damn song on
history is about his struggles and like "boohoo, look at me, i've
been wronged". it bores people. write about the unfairness of life
or the disappointments but don't keep calling out the bad guys
time and time again. snooooze.

he just seems to genuinely be in this mindset that we're seeing so
much of lately. i'm still not sure what to think of it.

It was definitely embarrassing to hear so many great songs on The Current (Sloop John B!) and then hear this dreck from Prince, a rock 'n roll hall of famer.

I agree, Prince is soo insulated he would never collaborate with any artists that are current and popular like Allicia Keys, Pharel Williams, Andra 3000, this is why he will never have a song that is commercially sucessfull and played on radio, he always states he does not care about chat positions, its just as well because with this drival no one will give a fuck, it is just plain, boring, tired old P cack.

I'm just curious, what do you consider the best songs that Prince has written in his career? I'd like a frame of reference for your argument.

As I said earlier, I am not feeling Cause and Effect, but there are many songs that Prince has written in the last 10 years that I absolutely love. In fact, though I grew up on the 1980's/early 1990's stuff, I can honestly say that when I listen to Prince (which is often), I usually listen to music from the last 10 years. Except for the LoveSexy and SOTT albums, I really don't listen to the 1980s or 1970s stuff unless it comes up on a playlist or shuffle. I think Prince has displayed greatness in every decade he's released music. That's why I said I was curious as to what you use as your criteria for dismissing the last decade's worth of music.

This nonsense is one of the main reasons I rarely post here. Opinions are one thing, but most of the negative rants about this song are more bullying than anything else. Some people love it, some people don't. But, I think it's down right disrespectful to say it's "crap", "drivel", or "garbage"! Again, respect the art and artist, as well as those who enjoy it.

Just my 2 cents.