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Tom Joyner hasn't been happy with Prince "since he tried to charge me a million dollars to do my charity cruise" http://www.startribune.co...68112.html
Piling on Prince
Prince apparently has some fence-mending to do with nationally syndicated morning radio show host Tom Joyner. My buddy Jawn Murray, the D.C.-based celebrity/entertainment pundit and regular on Joyner's show, called to say that Tom dropped an on-air tidbit about Prince the other day. "What he said was: I haven't been happy with Prince since he tried to charge me a million dollars to do my charity cruise," said Murray. "I thought, 'Let me call C.J. and tell her this.' At one time Prince gave Tom a donation for his Tom Joyner Foundation, which raises money for historically black colleges and universities, but nonetheless, when Tom asked Prince to come perform on the annual cruise, Prince wanted one million to come on the ship." Why would Symbolina do that? I asked Murray. "Who knows why His Purpleness does the things he does," said Murray, adding: "Tom should be careful, though, before Prince writes a song about him the same way he wrote one about you, C.J." Based on that Vikings fight song Prince recently penned, Joyner's got nothing to fear here. Had Prince been able to summon some of the passion that inspired "Billy Jack Bitch," I'm sure there would have been a little more fight in that sorry "Purple and Gold" song. © Bart Van Hemelen
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A song like Minstrel Jack Bitch about Tom Joyner could finally divert attention away from my Boo!
Do it, Prince! Jump all over that fat, corny, no-talent bastard.  | |
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TJ has been upset a while about P not doing the cruise. He should know that Prince is not your typical act. I don't think a million dollars is that much for Prince to ask.
If P did the cruise, Tom would sell out in a heartbeat. He would have all kinds of fans from around the world flying to the Caribbean (or wherever it is going to be) just to see the show. Tom should know that. Not to mention, Tom has never had a multiple Grammy winner, a Golden Globe Winner, an Academy Award winner and Rock and Roll Hall of Famer. He's used to acts like Maze, SOS Band, Gap Band, Teena Marie, etc. I'm not dissing these artists, but they haven't achieved the statutes and credentials that P has. If he wants to go after someone, he should try to get Jermaine Jackson and Janet Jackson on the same show. That would be a treat.  **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: TJ has been upset a while about P not doing the cruise. He should know that Prince is not your typical act. I don't think a million dollars is that much for Prince to ask.
If P did the cruise, Tom would sell out in a heartbeat. He would have all kinds of fans from around the world flying to the Caribbean (or wherever it is going to be) just to see the show. Tom should know that. Not to mention, Tom has never had a multiple Grammy winner, a Golden Globe Winner, an Academy Award winner and Rock and Roll Hall of Famer. He's used to acts like Maze, SOS Band, Gap Band, Teena Marie, etc. I'm not dissing these artists, but they haven't achieved the statutes and credentials that P has. If he wants to go after someone, he should try to get Jermaine Jackson and Janet Jackson on the same show. That would be a treat. Tito and Rebbie are more on Tom's level. | |
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I can't see P doing a Love Boat type thing. Where are the Isaac/Prince photos? Who cares if Tom Joyner is not happy. Dude is getting a little big-headed. | |
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jdcxc said: I can't see P doing a Love Boat type thing. Where are the Isaac/Prince photos? Who cares if Tom Joyner is not happy. Dude is getting a little big-headed.
GETTING?!?!?!? I've met 2 people that work for Tom and they both say the same thing. They both say that he's a nice guy as long as u r kissing up to him, but if u do something he doesn't like or disagree with something, he will as u "who's name is in the jingle?" really quick. Tom has been named as one of the most powerful people in Black America by several magazines and he deserves it. He does some really good work. My problem is that he tends to take his problems with a person or artist to the airwaves and that's not cool. If he had a beef with Prince over the million dollars, he should have just stopped playing his music. That's easy to do. Calling him out on the air like that is just outright tacky. They said P gave him a donation a few years ago, that's good. Tom should b happy with that and move on. Tavis seems to have no problem "moving on" after P does a show and donates money to his "cause". [Edited 2/18/10 14:44pm] **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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It's not about Prince. It's about the cause. Yes, Prince donated before but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a million dollars but even if it were, it's still kind of grimy to donate to a charity then later charge them for a performance. It's like asking for the money back.  Tacky! 
For the record, that cruise has sold out each and every year since it started, so Prince presence was not needed for that.  I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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Wow this is earth-shattering.
Prince charging for a concert? Unfuckingbelievable. Keep up the great work "Bart Van Hemelen" | |
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CJBabyDaddy said: A song like Minstrel Jack Bitch about Tom Joyner could finally divert attention away from my Boo!
Do it, Prince! Jump all over that fat, corny, no-talent bastard. 
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sro100 said: Wow this is earth-shattering.
Prince charging for a concert? Unfuckingbelievable. Keep up the great work "Bart Van Hemelen"  | |
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Don't worry TJ, you'll be alright: 
 [Edited 2/11/10 19:15pm] | |
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Normally I would say that Prince was being rediculous but since it was Tom Joyner he stuck it to.....  Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Where is this antagonism towards Tom Joyner coming from? Have I missed something. Asking for that much money for a charity cruise is a bit much. | |
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I like Tom Joyner but why would he think Prince would do it for free. He has never had any artist of Prince's caliber on that cruise.Maybe Tom is not used to dealing with A list talent. Love God and I shall 4ever Love u | |
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If anything, Prince is giving him a discount.
Didn't Prince recieve 3 million for his gig at Coachella??? JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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Not this again 
TJ's making $ why not pay Prince? $1 M is very reasonable considering what Prince would have to do -- pay the band, fight all the Cat-Daddies and fend-off all the cougars.... he might not get outta there alive. | |
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sweething said: Not this again
TJ's making $ why not pay Prince? $1 M is very reasonable considering what Prince would have to do -- pay the band, fight all the Cat-Daddies and fend-off all the cougars.... he might not get outta there alive.Look, I love Prince as a musician, but Prince has always struck me as way over the top focused on maximizing every drop of $ that he can on everything. Now, given the extent that black artists have historically been exploited, I get it...but IMHO it really comes across as unseemly sometimes. | |
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2funkE said: sweething said: Not this again
TJ's making $ why not pay Prince? $1 M is very reasonable considering what Prince would have to do -- pay the band, fight all the Cat-Daddies and fend-off all the cougars.... he might not get outta there alive.Look, I love Prince as a musician, but Prince has always struck me as way over the top focused on maximizing every drop of $ that he can on everything. Now, given the extent that black artists have historically been exploited, I get it...but IMHO it really comes across as unseemly sometimes. All joking aside, you may be right perhaps Prince "could have" given Tom a break...however, none of us were in the room or on the telephone when this particular deal was negotiated, its difficult to say what the terms were or how it went down. I totally agree with you in terms of African American artists having been exploited, and because of it they do support many causes other artists would not but at some point they have to start choosing charitable contributions otherwise they'll go broke--no different than you and I. | |
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Do artists usually do those Joyner charity cruises pro bono and use the tax write-off? If so, Prince should have just declined, as asking for such a fee would obviously be in poor taste. A million bucks can in no way be filed under "covering production costs". If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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To quote Prince himself.."Did you pay to get in here?...I don't play for free...somebody pass a hat"
Tom knows the deal and putting that type of info on the airwaves was unprofessional..just a whole bunch of wrong on both parties | |
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I walked into a Mercedes dealership and told them what a fan of their cars I was and would be thrilled to be given the opportunity to drive one of their cars around town singing the praises of Mercedes as I did so.
They agreed but had the nerve to charge me full price for the car! After all the free publicity I was going to give them! The nerve. Well, I'm calling them out .... Hyundai wouldn't charge me that much .... Thanks, Mercedes. Not! | |
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squirrelgrease said: Do artists usually do those Joyner charity cruises pro bono and use the tax write-off? If so, Prince should have just declined, as asking for such a fee would obviously be in poor taste. A million bucks can in no way be filed under "covering production costs".
Indeed. Hello people, it's a CHARITY cruise. . [Edited 2/12/10 3:01am] © Bart Van Hemelen
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shayde said: I walked into a Mercedes dealership and told them what a fan of their cars I was and would be thrilled to be given the opportunity to drive one of their cars around town singing the praises of Mercedes as I did so.
They agreed but had the nerve to charge me full price for the car! After all the free publicity I was going to give them! The nerve. Well, I'm calling them out .... Hyundai wouldn't charge me that much .... Thanks, Mercedes. Not! You do know that celebs get tons of stuff for free, right? Also, WTF does this have to do with PRINCE ASKING $1,000,000 to do a CHARITY cruise? © Bart Van Hemelen
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sweething said: I totally agree with you in terms of African American artists having been exploited, and because of it they do support many causes other artists would not but at some point they have to start choosing charitable contributions otherwise they'll go broke--no different than you and I.
Yeah, Prince does so much of them! Like ... uhm... Here's a hint: if your point is that Prince "has to start choosing charitable contributions otherwise they'll go broke", you better have a looooong list ready of Prince doing charitable work. © Bart Van Hemelen
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Prince has done as many charitable events as Joyner in the last 25 years so he should not have to answer to what Joyner says about him.
I am sure that there is much more to this than what is being let on by Joyner and Prince. |
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BartVanHemelen said: squirrelgrease said: Do artists usually do those Joyner charity cruises pro bono and use the tax write-off? If so, Prince should have just declined, as asking for such a fee would obviously be in poor taste. A million bucks can in no way be filed under "covering production costs".
Indeed. Hello people, it's a CHARITY cruise. . [Edited 2/12/10 3:01am] I would like to examine the books on this "charity." I'm sure a percentage is donated but the performers are given a fee. It is known that there are a lot of speakers and performers that make a comfortable living at charity events. And with Prince there are different issues relative to attaching his name to a charity event that aren't relevant to KC and the Sunshine Band. I'm sure Prince is asked to do hundreds of charity events a year. Anecdotally, I've heard plenty of instances of P being generous to causes he deems worthy. What are you doing in your own personal lives. For Joyner to throw his little weight around to attempt to embarass Prince, is a weak attempt to influence top level talent to future cruises. He needs to work on the pitiful state of contemporary radio playlists and corporate control of his craft. Pick a fight with Clear Channel instead of P. I can't believe Prince is being criticized for a charity he donated money to. | |
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It's tacky for Prince to ask for money to play a charity cruise and it's way more tacky for Tom Joyner to put Prince on blast for asking to be paid. | |
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squirrelgrease said: Do artists usually do those Joyner charity cruises pro bono and use the tax write-off? If so, Prince should have just declined, as asking for such a fee would obviously be in poor taste. A million bucks can in no way be filed under "covering production costs".
At least somebody around here understands how charities operate! 
Prince has every right to charge what he wants for a performance but the whole point of the cruise is to raise money for scholarships. It would have done irreparable harm to the charity's reputation and the good work it does to pay him that kind of money. Prince performing would be grand but it wouldn't raise any more money for the cause than what has been proven, can easily be raised without him! I understand that some people don't care for Tom Joyner personally and that's fine but at least respect what he does. While Prince may donate his time and/or money whenever he decides to, Tom Joyner is out there doing it for the people every single day, whether anyone likes his methods or not! I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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BartVanHemelen said: shayde said: I walked into a Mercedes dealership and told them what a fan of their cars I was and would be thrilled to be given the opportunity to drive one of their cars around town singing the praises of Mercedes as I did so.
They agreed but had the nerve to charge me full price for the car! After all the free publicity I was going to give them! The nerve. Well, I'm calling them out .... Hyundai wouldn't charge me that much .... Thanks, Mercedes. Not! You do know that celebs get tons of stuff for free, right? Also, WTF does this have to do with PRINCE ASKING $1,000,000 to do a CHARITY cruise? this is a fail. it was a nice try, but you tanked. hell, prince has supported an entire school for years and continually supports causes in the black community. his committment to CHARITY isn't the issue. the issue is joyner thinking he could get prince to do HIS JOB AND BE ABLE TO PAY HIS BAND, TECHS, MANAGER, ETC. FOR THEIR DAMN TIME TO DO THEIR JOBS for a fee that prince hasn't performed for since he was, what...25? joyner wanted prince to do a REAL SET, not an awards show 5-7 set. he wanted a concert. for $1,000,000? FAIL! | |
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