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Reply #60 posted 02/24/10 10:32am

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nyse said:

^^^
that was cruel...


cruel, but it did make me laugh smile
blah blah blah
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Reply #61 posted 02/24/10 10:41am

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lotusboy said:

Definitely, hands down the loss of and mystery behind his and Mayte's sweet love child. sad sad


Agreed. Surely nothing can top this for sheer scandal value. Weird though, over in the UK here a lot of people are unaware of it. But if there was any truth to the horrible accusations.... holy f**k, that is a HUUUUUGE scandal!!
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Reply #62 posted 02/24/10 12:27pm

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The biggest SCANDAL in Prince's career... ?

Frustrating his fans for the past twenty years with silly eccentricity..
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Reply #63 posted 02/24/10 1:30pm

NONSENSE

The Black Album
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Reply #64 posted 02/24/10 2:54pm

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Paris9748430 said:

ConsciousContact said:

Alledgedly roughing up Sinead O Connor.

Did he get ticked off by the police for fooling around with Manuela in a cinema?



Actually, it was Mayte, and I think that was just a rumor.



it was Sinead O'Connor, she said it in an interview on Irish TV show, Podge and Rodge, which is hilarious, u should youtube it, but she is MAD so i'd take it with a pinch os salt!
may u live 2 see the dawn
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Reply #65 posted 02/24/10 4:04pm

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vivid said:

nyse said:

the name change... I was only 8 when he did it... but i remember thinking at that age "what the fuck?????"


Yep. The name change. In terms of both intial impact and lasting damage. He's never quite recovered from that one.



I'm with you on that. He was always still Prince to me. I remember at a concert at Paisley around the time, he asked "What's my name"? and there was total silence. That's control, or respect...not sure which one, or both.
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Reply #66 posted 02/24/10 4:12pm

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ronnwinter said:

Seems like i remember reading that Mayte's sisters were possibly sueing Prince for wrongful death of his baby. Not 100% sure if it was her sisters, but I remember something about wrongful death accusations.
I remember being disgusted with with it, because it wasnt his fault, and he had to make a very difficult decision.


They were hired nannys, sisters, but not Mayte's sisters. They were basically trying to say that Prince had the Dr's pull the plug, when it wasn't necessary to do so. They were shut down, though. I did find it really odd that the same week the baby passed that he was doing concerts at Paisley Park.
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Reply #67 posted 02/24/10 6:20pm

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The biggest scandal has to be no showing We Are The World. At the time he was on top of the world and the mainstream press had a field day with him. He was NEVER treated the same afterwards by those who weren't true Purple Heads.

All the other "scandals" listed...I think regular folks just rolled their eyes. You know..."Prince is an idiot, blah blah blah."

No one but us die hards really cared what he was doing by then. He had unfortunately become an afterthought.
blunt music She has robes and she has monkeys, lazy diamond studded flunkies.... music blunt
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Reply #68 posted 02/24/10 6:38pm

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StonedImmaculate said:

The biggest scandal has to be no showing We Are The World. At the time he was on top of the world and the mainstream press had a field day with him. He was NEVER treated the same afterwards by those who weren't true Purple Heads.

I think I agree with you,

there was a huge "backlash" in the media after We Are The World (1985) - the mainstream got tired with Prince, he was viewed as being totally weird, like he was spolied or something. And I think Prince's sales figures suffered from this.

What a shame, cuz his music was really top level: 1980 to 1988.
[Edited 2/24/10 18:40pm]
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Reply #69 posted 02/24/10 9:17pm

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^^^
I remember trying to defend him to my mom. She told me he would never again get the respect they were giving him for Purple Rain, no matter what he did.

If you think about it, it took 20 years before he was "mainstream" again.

2004 stunned me...I thought he would be dead before he got the props he got that year.
blunt music She has robes and she has monkeys, lazy diamond studded flunkies.... music blunt
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Reply #70 posted 02/25/10 12:01am

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clbrooks said:

lotusboy said:

Definitely, hands down the loss of and mystery behind his and Mayte's sweet love child. sad sad


Agreed. Surely nothing can top this for sheer scandal value. Weird though, over in the UK here a lot of people are unaware of it. But if there was any truth to the horrible accusations.... holy f**k, that is a HUUUUUGE scandal!!

scan·dal (skndl)
n.

    1. A publicized incident that brings about disgrace or offends the moral sensibilities of society: a drug scandal that forced the mayor's resignation.
    2. A person, thing, or circumstance that causes or ought to cause disgrace or outrage: a politician whose dishonesty is a scandal; considered the housing shortage a scandal.
    3. Damage to reputation or character caused by public disclosure of immoral or grossly improper behavior; disgrace.
    4. Talk that is damaging to one's character; malicious gossip.


I'm not sure if I'd call that a scandal as much as a personal tragedy.
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Reply #71 posted 02/25/10 1:22am

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clbrooks said:

lotusboy said:

Definitely, hands down the loss of and mystery behind his and Mayte's sweet love child. sad sad


Agreed. Surely nothing can top this for sheer scandal value. Weird though, over in the UK here a lot of people are unaware of it. But if there was any truth to the horrible accusations.... holy f**k, that is a HUUUUUGE scandal!!



Yes
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Reply #72 posted 02/25/10 1:41am

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^ what accusations exactly,

the poor baby boy was born with severe damages, pfeiffer syndrome,

>>>> to turn off the respirator was the only right choice.

I'm not sure this was a "scandal" - it was more of a sad tragedy. sad

(Ps. this story was mentioned on MTV Europe back then, I remember this because of the news host, the danish VJ Thomas Madvig...)

R.I.P. to Gregory. sad
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Reply #73 posted 02/25/10 11:27am

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Cravens said:

clbrooks said:



Agreed. Surely nothing can top this for sheer scandal value. Weird though, over in the UK here a lot of people are unaware of it. But if there was any truth to the horrible accusations.... holy f**k, that is a HUUUUUGE scandal!!

scan·dal (skndl)
n.

[list]1. A publicized incident that brings about disgrace or offends the moral sensibilities of society: a drug scandal that forced the mayor's resignation.
2. A person, thing, or circumstance that causes or ought to cause disgrace or outrage: a politician whose dishonesty is a scandal; considered the housing shortage a scandal.
3. Damage to reputation or character caused by public disclosure of immoral or grossly improper behavior; disgrace.
4. Talk that is damaging to one's character; malicious gossip.[/list]

I'm not sure if I'd call that a scandal as much as a personal tragedy.



I would have to say that the two hired nannys,that were sisters, that claimed the Dr's pulled the plug when it was not necessary to do so qualifies this as a scandal by definition. Indeed it was a personal tragedy for Prince and Mayte. Like I said in an earlier post, I still find it odd that he was doing concerts out at Paisley the same week that happened.
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Reply #74 posted 02/25/10 11:35am

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thedance said:

^ what accusations exactly,

the poor baby boy was born with severe damages, pfeiffer syndrome,

>>>> to turn off the respirator was the only right choice.

I'm not sure this was a "scandal" - it was more of a sad tragedy. sad

(Ps. this story was mentioned on MTV Europe back then, I remember this because of the news host, the danish VJ Thomas Madvig...)

R.I.P. to Gregory. sad



I really don't want to go here, but does everyone living with Pfeiffer Syndrome deserve death because of their deformity? The survival rate for it is as high as 85% at an experienced center that treats it.
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Reply #75 posted 02/25/10 11:50am

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motherfunka said:

thedance said:

^ what accusations exactly,

the poor baby boy was born with severe damages, pfeiffer syndrome,

>>>> to turn off the respirator was the only right choice.

I'm not sure this was a "scandal" - it was more of a sad tragedy. sad

(Ps. this story was mentioned on MTV Europe back then, I remember this because of the news host, the danish VJ Thomas Madvig...)

R.I.P. to Gregory. sad



I really don't want to go here, but does everyone living with Pfeiffer Syndrome deserve death because of their deformity? The survival rate for it is as high as 85% at an experienced center that treats it.




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Reply #76 posted 02/25/10 1:43pm

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Of course, his biggest "scandal" was the battle with Warner Bros. & the name-change. It was a career defining move...but in a way, it was positive.

Nowadays, his symbol is almost just as recognizable as the Warner Bros.' "WB" shield. It was a genius marketing strategy....He basically re-invented himself into a brand name, just as identifiable as the name "Prince". It was cool when he brought it back during the 3121 and Planet Earth eras...especially the Super Bowl.

There he was, in front of one of the largest crowds he ever played for at once, on a stage shaped as the symbol, ripping up the symbol guitar! He was rubbing it into the mainstream's faces...saying "ha, u made fun of the name, but hey, I'm still here." Now, when anyone 18 and up sees the symbol, they automatically know who it stands for. And everyone back in the day wondered what the hell the symbol meant... wink
[Edited 2/23/10 20:21pm]


Love your post (and your profile pic biggrin ) Very insightful.
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Reply #77 posted 02/25/10 2:08pm

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Prince could never beat Britney Spears or Michael Jackson when it comes to SCANDALS, (thank God) biggrin

but still:



what was in your opinion the biggest scandal in Prince's career????




- performing the "Dirty Mind" songs on stage in his underwear?

- performing "Gett Off" on MTV in assless pants?

- the 1985 "We Are The World" incident, Prince's refuse to be participating?

- removing a youtube video of a dancing baby, dancing to "Let's Go Crazy"?

- the threats and lawsuits against fansites?

- to sue piratebay together with Village People?

- the Lotusflower.com $77 payment fiasco?




- or: something else.... ?


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"the threats and lawsuits against fansites? "

Can anyone name a fansite or fan that was sued!!! In addtion, these are scandals P is doing pretty good compared to other celebs.
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Reply #78 posted 02/25/10 3:41pm

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laurarichardson said:

"the threats and lawsuits against fansites? "

Can anyone name a fansite or fan that was sued!!!

are you new to Prince lawsuits????? razz

I can name 3: housequake.com; Princefamily and Uptown:




as you see the search function works, I found these articles:

housequake.com was closed 1 year ago after several threats:

http://prince.org/blog/20...ke-closed/

uptown.se and princefamily, short mention here:

http://prince.org/msg/7/23750?&pg=1

princefamily (which later became the Ø family):

http://prince.org/msg/100/24768

We have become "The Ø Family" because Prince has disallowed use of his symbol in the logo of any unauthorized publication or website. Ø is a sign for "forbidden" (think of a "no smoking" sign, a circle with a picture of a cigarette crossed out diagonally). Ø is not meant to be any distortion of the Prince symbol and can be created on your keyboard: Shift+Option+O


Friendly Fire


Prince Attacks His "Friends" on the Web

Over the weekend of June 20, we've had several notifications that Prince's attorney, Londell McMillan, is once again sending threatening e-mails to fansites, but the screenname on the mail is now "Llmpc2000@aol.com" and there is no phone number given for a reply to his New York office. Also the mails are very specific as to the alleged infractions on the fansite. Because of these differences, it is unclear whether these mails are actually from L. McMillan, directly from Prince or from someone else. For a history of these threats, read below:

A Message From Our Friend - March 20, 1998

From: Llmpc@aol.com

To: PrinceFam@aol.com et al

Dear Sir/Madam:

Please be advised that I am legal counsel to NPG Records, Paisley Park Enterprises, the Artist formerly known as Prince (the "Artist") and the related companies of the Artist (all collectively referred herein as "Paisley Park"). Please be advised that Paisley Park retains proprietary rights in the names, images and likenesses and performances of the Artist.

It has recently come to our attention that you have been proliferating material through the Internet and otherwise that contains copyrighted material owned by the Artist including, but not limited to, the Artist's name, likeness or recordings (the "Unauthorized Material"") without any authorization from Paisley Park to do so. You are hereby put on notice that the dissemination of any such Unauthorized Material without the prior express authorization from Paisley Park may cause immediate and irreparable harm to Paisley Park's reputation and to the Artist's valuable proprietary right in his name, image and likeness and would also constitute a willful violation of both federal and state unfair competition laws.

Accordingly, we hereby demand the following of you and any person or entity with which you are affiliated: (1) that you immediately cease and desist from the dissemination, copying, or commercial exploitation of the Unauthorized Material; (2) deliver to us all such copies, including the packaging therefor which are in your possession and control; (3) that you deliver to us all such copies of Unauthorized Material which come into your possession and control; (4) that you secure the return of all such copies from any person or entities; (5) that you remove all Unauthorized Material from you web pages or web sites. We further demand that you advise us, immediately of what steps you will take to prevent the dissemination or further distribution or exploitation of the Unauthorized Materials by you, any affiliates or related entities.

You are hereby placed on notice that the possession and dissemination, or other exploitation of the Unauthorized Material at issue is unlawful and a serious violation of Paisley Park's legal and equitable rights for which they will hold you and any person or entity acting in concert with you, fully accountable. This letter is without prejudice to Paisley Park's legal and equitable rights, all of which are expressly reserved.

I look forward to hearing from you immediately but in no event later than the close of business on March 25, 1998. I or my associate, Gizelle Galang, can be reached at (212) 271-4412 or (212) 307-5500.

Sincerely,

L. Londell McMillan

cc: Paisley Park Enterprises

March 30, 1998

Subject: an open letter from Londell McMillan

From: ShoTheLove@aol.com

Date: Mon, Mar 30, 1998 11:17 AM

Message-id:

Friends of O}+>:

A week ago, cease and desist letters were forwared to certain website operators who were reported to be in violation of Paisley Park Enterprises' copyrights and trademarks on the Internet. As we continue our investigation, I would like to thank the friends of O}+> for showing support and understanding regarding this effort to protect O}+>'s valuable properties and rights. As many of you may know, O}+> has been an active participant and enthusiast of interactive and modern technology. Recently, O}+> has taken bold and unprecedented steps to connect with his friends by selling records and other merchandise through the Internet. Unlawful and unabated theft on the Internet will undermine the many benefits and advancements of Internet technology.

Many of you have expressed concern and/or disagreement with our taking action by providing legal notice; others have requested guidelines as to what uses are acceptable. Unfortunately, we can not respond to all legal matters.

By requesting that unauthorized material be removed from certain websites, we are not necessarily seeking to close them all down. Weappreciate and support legitimate sites that offer a forum for sharing ideas and information. However, the Internet should not be used as an "inter-theft" highway. Unauthorized use of P's creative material and property deprives him of the benefits of his creations even if the user does not financially benefit from the use of these materials. Website operators should completely avoid using any of O}+>'s legally protected material. Certainly, the unauthorized sale of sound recordings and music compositions by O}+> (ie. bootlegging) is unlawful. Also, the symbol "O}+>" and his name, image and likeness should not be used in a manner that may be construed as an endorsment by O}+> of its use.*** Website operators should also refrain from selling illegal merchandise or allowing others to advertise the sale of illegal merchandise on their website. Those who choose to disregard the law and ignore the truth shall be held accountable.

Again, the recent letters were sent as part of an effort to protect O}+>. Legal notification is the appropriate first step. We appreciate your support and cooperation.

Sincerely,

L. Londell McMillan

Counsel to O}+>

Wall of Sound - article on McMillan's open letter 3/30/98

* The same day this message was posted, more cease and desist threatening e-mails were sent to fans who maintain websites devoted to Prince

***We agree that it might be harmful to Prince's reputation if the use of his symbol or name caused fans to believe that he endorsed the Ø family web site, newsletter and phone line, and we won't use his symbol or names for some of these reasons:


Top 10 Reasons


We Wouldn't Want Anyone to Think Prince Endorsed the Ø family

1. Prince has a reputation for charging for publications he does not deliver, specifically the six issues of the NPG Magazinefans subscribed to

This reputation could be ruined if anyone thought Prince was endorsing the policy of the Ø family, which is to deliver every issue a subscriber orders.

2. Prince has a reputation for delivering late, specifically to many fans who ordered Crystal Ball

This reputation could be ruined if anyone thought Prince was endorsing the Ø family, which has delivered newsletters, every other week for six years, without being one day late (with the exception of the "Dinner With Delores" cassette giveaway issue, which was mailed one day late as we awaited arrival of the cassettes).

3. Prince has a reputation for misspelling words in his messages.

This reputation could be ruined if anyone thought Prince was endorsing the Ø family, which at least makes an effort to use the spell checker on its computer.

4. Prince has a reputation for inserting ellipses. . . in the darndest places. . .

This reputation could be ruined if anyone thought Prince was endorsing the Ø family, which attempts to use ellipses rarely. . . and only when appropriate.

5. Prince has a reputation for failing to credit others with work they may have done. This reputation may or may not be deserved in the case of André Cymone or Morris Day, but we do know who wrote "Where Are They Now" for The Dawn web site and never got any credit.

This reputation could be ruined if anyone thought Prince was endorsing the Ø family, which attempts to thank everyone who contributes to our efforts.

6. Prince has a reputation for throwing away his fan mail (why do you think he didn't have a mailing list?) and not answering his friends' e-mail.

This reputation could be ruined if anyone thought that Prince endorsed the Ø family, which at least attempts to answer all questions promptly.

7. Prince has a reputation for making up excuses when things don't quite go his way, specifically the famous "#1 at the bank" quote concerning the success of Emancipation.

This reputation could be ruined if anyone thought that Prince endorsed the Ø family, whose policy is "the buck stops here."

8. Prince has a reputation for "double speak," in which "positivity" means "no one has a right to an opinion but me," "emancipation" means "I'm free but you're not" and "love for one another" creates a hateful division in the community of fans (Divide and Conquer).

This reputation could be ruined if anyone thought that Prince endorsed the Ø family, whose policy is straight talk: "we call 'em as we see 'em."

9. Prince has a reputation for not wanting "fans," which he says is short for "fanatics," but "friends," another example of "double speak" since only fanatics would believe that a rock star is an infallible deity.

This reputation could be ruined if anyone thought that Prince endorsed the Ø family, where most of our "customers" really have become our friends.

10. We did have a #10, but we were afraid of being sued if we used it.




DIVIDE AND CONQUER

Digital Underground - Vibe (October 1998) by Harry Allen

. . .Traditionally, the record business has amassed its wealth through marketing, distribution, and publishing of music. But in a future where one can do all three -- plus make records -- with a desktop computer, who needs Warner Bros.?

Not the Artist Formerly Known as Prince, who chewed himself free of that label two years ago. "The Artist has taken bold and unprecedented steps to connect with his friends by selling records and other merchandise through the Internet," says his attorney, L. Londell McMillan. Indeed, the Artist's recent four-CD release, Crystal Ball, is currently available through his Web site. . .

But the 'Net hasn't been all good for the Artist. His company, Paisley Park, has had to send roughly 40 cease-and-desist letters to a variety of MP3 sites. "The Artist has been one of the most bootlegged artists of the century," says McMillan. "There were certain MP3 sites where you would find up to twenty-five to fifty of his songs." So the attorney wrote an open letter to Web users, warning: "The Internet should not be used as an "intertheft" highway. . . . Those who choose to disregard the law and ignore the truth shall be held accountable."

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Webnoize - article on legal threats to Prince fan web sites - 5/98

Yahoo! Internet Life article on legal threats to Prince fan web sites - 8/98

Wall of Sound article on legal threats to Prince fan web sites

Addicted to Noise article on legal threats to Prince fan web sites

St. Paul Pioneer Press - article interviews The Fam about legal threats to Prince fan web sites

WCCO Radio in Minneapolis - article on legal threats to Prince fan web sites

Live! Magazine - article on legal threats to Prince fan web sites

New Music Express - article on legal threats to Prince fan web sites

E! Online - article on legal threats to Prince fan web sites

Sevenmag Online - editorial comment on legal threats to Prince fan web sites

Algemeen Dagblad - article from Holland about legal threats to Prince fan web sites

De Volkskrant - article from Holland about legal threats to Prince fan web sites

CNET news - Article on threats to fan web sites in which Londell McMillan states that he's looking for a "bigger, illegal conspiracy" against Prince - 4/02/98

Minneapolis Star Tribune - Jon Bream gives Wall of Sound a "Bravo" for their Druid April Fool's story and Prince a "Boo" for his legal threats to fan web sites

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De Volkskranyt - 4-02-98 (The Netherlands)

Prince wants to rule fans on the Internet

From our staff editor Gert van Veen, Amsterdam (Tranlated by Rogiers Coopmans)

The Artist Formerly Known As Prince has brought the anger of a large group of fans on him. 20th March last, the American singer-guitarplayer and composer send an email via his lawyers to Prince-sites, summoning them to immediately cease and desist the unauthorised use of his name, likeness and music. This caused a storm of protest from both site-owners and fans, from the appearance of the bitter tone of discussions now being held in newsgroups like news://alt.music.prince where hundreds of people express their indignation. One website is now bringing into action a Prince boycott. Prince is not the first artist taking action against the unauthorised use of material on websites. In 1997 a similar thing was done by Oasis.

The 17-year old Rogier Coopmans from Baarlo is one of the disappointed fans. "It´s not correct. I can understand that he may want to take action when previously unreleased material can be listened to on the net. But most sites only provide free promotion." According to Coopmans, Prince had already wound his fans up with the disorderly way he sold his new cd-set Crystal Ball. This album which would contain 3 cds, as well as the instrumental ballet Kamasutra and the acoustic cd The Truth, were supposed to be sold exclusively through Prince´s own site 1-800-Prince. But later is turned out the set was also available at Best Buy, a record store chain. And for only 30$, half the price people paid ordering from 1-800-New-Funk. [But without Kamasutra . - ed] This suggests that sales did not go very well. Prince apperently got stuck with a warehouse full of unsold cd´s which he then sold to regular outlets for much less.

Now when his fan base is shrinking, Prince should appreciate all the support he gets from his fans, says Coopmans: "But with the threatening of a lawsuit the cup is full. Is it still about the music or just about the money?"

Algemeen Dagblad - 4/01/98 (The Netherlands)

Prince threatens Internet-fans

By Tjalling van Dijk (translated by Rogier Coopmans)

Rotterdam - The Artist, formerly Prince, threatens everyone using his name, which is trademarked, on the Internet. Only those who have gotten permission to use the trademark Prince, are free from legal prosecution according to L. Londell McMillan lawyer from Paisley Park Enterprises, Prince´s company. Paisley Park demands immediate cease and desist from dissemination, multiplication and commercial exploitation of Prince´s name, appearances and music as long as there´s no permission given for that. Fansites on the Internet call for a general boycott of Prince. They find that Prince is taking "draconian measures against the wrong people". If fans can´t even use the name of their idol, the whole point is lost. Prince should, at a time when record sales are falling, be thankful toward his fans. "Never ever have I seen a musician go to so much trouble to estrange his fans who already are reduced to a minimum" says an ex-fan on the Prince: The Artist Currently Known As Asshole-site. The Boycott the artist-site calls fans to not buy any cd, picture of other commercial material from Prince.

"It´s the people who´ve been the most loyal that now are summoned" says Rogier Coopmans (17) who almost daily visits Prince-newssites and who maintains contact with many threathened sites. "Now, the only thing he accomplishes is an increase in boycott and hate-sites on the Internet. The fansites think that Prince hasn´t got a much chance with his legal internet-offensive. "The sites make no profit using Prince´s symbol, they also do not use slander," reports the Boycott the Artist-site. That´s not punishable, they claim. Last year some fansites from the British group Oasis and the French-Belgium singer Jaques Brel were closed down because of copyright infringement.

Prince is known for being a pioneer when it comes to the Internet. Last year he decided as one of the first artists in the world to sell his new cd Crystal Ball solely via the Internet. "Many fans ordered that cd via the Internet", says says Rogier Coopmans. "Many paid, didn´t receive anything and found out that cd was released in the shops after all." Betrayal, the fans think. They supported Prince when he wanted to leave his record company, Warner Bros., because he felt the contractual obligations made him a slave. Now, according to Coopmans, the fans themselves feel like slaves of Prince. They are now dependent on the caprices of their idol.

Dagblad De Limburger - 4/01/98 (The Netherlands)

http://www.limburger.nl

translated by Rogier Coopmans

Action angry Prince-fans on the Internet

By Frans Pasma

Angry Prince-fans protest on the Internet against their money-hungry hero. More than fivehundred fans have digitally signed a petition with complaints to be found at http://www.las.es/TheArtist/petition. The direct motive is an email send 20th March in which Prince's lawyers summoned owners of unofficial Prince-sites to remove all the unauthorized material within a few days.

Another reason for complaining is the way things have gone with Crystal Ball. The cd-set, announced in November 1996, was supposed to be exclusively sold through1-800-NEW-FUNK, Prince´s mail order company. For $60 only 100.000 people would receive it. By now it has turned out that the set is also available via other outlets for considerably less money. Also the annouced extra gift for early pre-orderers was missing. [This statement is an error. - ed.]

The Fans also complain about bad service, high prices and indistinct communication with 1800-NEW- FUNK. Also the call, put on the official Prince-site (http://www.love4oneanother.com), to donate money to unspecified charities has gone down the wrong way for many fans. In The Netherlands Crystal Ball is only available as an import-CD.

[Edited 2/25/10 15:42pm]
[Edited 2/25/10 15:43pm]
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Reply #79 posted 02/25/10 4:06pm

NDRU

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Probably his dirty lyrics or possibly his assless pants.

I wouldn't call his name change a scandal, just news-worthy and talked about.
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Reply #80 posted 02/25/10 4:21pm

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lotusboy said:

Definitely, hands down the loss of and mystery behind his and Mayte's sweet love child. sad sad



yeahthat


Those snitchin' lying nannies/assistants/housekeepers. The way he avoided (ineffectively) any questions about his child, forcing Mayte to sit through that bloody awful Oprah interview not to mention him having their marriage annulled because he didn't believe in "contracts". that whole affair, although born in love, turned out to be a hot mess.
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Reply #81 posted 02/26/10 12:38am

clbrooks

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thedance said:

^ what accusations exactly,

the poor baby boy was born with severe damages, pfeiffer syndrome,

>>>> to turn off the respirator was the only right choice.

I'm not sure this was a "scandal" - it was more of a sad tragedy. sad

(Ps. this story was mentioned on MTV Europe back then, I remember this because of the news host, the danish VJ Thomas Madvig...)

R.I.P. to Gregory. sad


Tragedy, agreed, but surely if any of the nanny's tales are to believed Prince has got a lot to answer for? Regardless of it being true, that definitley fits my idea of a scandal anyway (moral outrage anyone...?)

Think I'm going to exit this discussion now cos it is a grim subject and it feels a bit uncomfortable debating it (wish I hadn't agreed with the above comments in the first place now!)

peace.

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Reply #82 posted 02/26/10 12:44am

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- crystall ball
- the italian court case
- the wb fued
- lotusflw3r website t-shirt
- no official remasters
- ...
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #83 posted 02/26/10 12:45am

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- him sueing fans for no good reason
(how could I forget that one?)
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #84 posted 02/26/10 12:48am

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laurarichardson said:


Can anyone name a fansite or fan that was sued!!!


Uptown
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Reply #85 posted 02/26/10 1:07am

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I would have to say that the two hired nannys,that were sisters, that claimed the Dr's pulled the plug when it was not necessary to do so qualifies this as a scandal by definition. Indeed it was a personal tragedy for Prince and Mayte. Like I said in an earlier post, I still find it odd that he was doing concerts out at Paisley the same week that happened.


Yeah, but as long as there was no police involved and no legal actions taken, I think it's only fair to discard those things as "bullshit". The western legal system aims to let anybody be innocent until proven guilty of a crime. This "no smoke without a fire" really is the worst kind of buzz and can probably break a man (Michael Jackson is a prime example, no?).

And I don't think that it can be any sort of scandal, that Prince didn't grief the way you and I might do. Who knows, if Prince in reality only thought he could work himself through the pain, plunge into his music and escape in well structured music in stead of the chaotic reality?
I mean, I've been to funerals of dear friends (a bit too often), but didn't cry .. that doesn't mean that I didn't feel pain or grief, only that I don't grief like they do on the telly, as television characters make bad tv if all their emotions are turned inward (and with nothing to look at).

Simply, it's unfair to call it a scandal if a man you and I don't know reacts to pain in a private way. Sure, one could say that a tragedy like that perchance should leave imprints on his behaviour (well, he did become a JW) or (more importently) in his lyrics and music, but I don't think anyone can be allowed the arrogance to think there's a "right" way of grieving (or doing anything for that matter) for anybody else but themselves.
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Reply #86 posted 02/26/10 1:54am

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Hmmm.
So there's quite a lot of scandal....
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Reply #87 posted 02/26/10 2:02am

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NelsonR said:

erik319 said:



Why do I suddenly fancy a KFC?


KFC?


How can that be so??! (Sorry if I've missed out on a joke here, but why would the greatest exponent of popular funk music of his generation hooking up with Sly & The Family Stone's bassist be a scandal?

Yes, the over the top JW stuff is a bit dodgy, but as far as music goes there's nothing scandalous about that. Now, if he'd hooked up with Jedward...
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Reply #88 posted 02/26/10 6:21am

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Gav said:

laurarichardson said:


Can anyone name a fansite or fan that was sued!!!


Uptown

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Can you name a fan that sued? And did Uptown not win the lawsuit and then go out of business.
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Reply #89 posted 02/26/10 6:40am

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clbrooks said:

NelsonR said:



KFC?


How can that be so??! (Sorry if I've missed out on a joke here, but why would the greatest exponent of popular funk music of his generation hooking up with Sly & The Family Stone's bassist be a scandal?

Yes, the over the top JW stuff is a bit dodgy, but as far as music goes there's nothing scandalous about that. Now, if he'd hooked up with Jedward...


As long as he didn't start singing Twins In My Bed again...

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