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Thread started 05/21/09 12:06pm

Smillan

Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic 88

Hey, many people see Lovesexy as being a creative peak for Prince. With Batman coming next the project Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic got pushed aside. Does anyone know of any other tracks that were supposed to appear on the album apart from below:
Rave unto the Joy Fantastic
If I Had a Harem
We Got the Power
The Voice Inside
Am I Without U?

I wonder how much of Batman was made up of Rave songs? It would have been interesting to hear what the original album could have sounded like, would it have continued along Lovesexy lines or be similar to Batman. Probably the latter I would guess.
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Reply #1 posted 05/21/09 2:44pm

NouveauDance

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Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic 1 Octobert 27th 1988
The Voice Inside
Melody Cool
Rave Un2 The joy Fantastic
God Is Alive
If I Had A Harem
Stimulation
Still Would Stand Alll Time
Elephants & Flowers
Big House
We Got The Power

Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic 2 (late 1988)
Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic
If I Had A Harem
Good Judy Girlfriend
Pink Cahsmere
Electric Chair
Am I Without U?
God Is Alive
Still Would Stand All Time
Moonbeam Levels

From: http://prince.org/msg/7/116565

There's more cross-up with Graffiti Bridge than with Batman because Graffiti Bridge had been in the works since 1987.
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Reply #2 posted 05/21/09 5:49pm

carmy

biggrin I would love to hear the original version of this album.Such a cool title and track should have been rewarded a better fate than what we got back in '99.Either version would be ok with me. I'd love to hear some of those songs .
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Reply #3 posted 05/21/09 6:15pm

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NouveauDance said:

Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic 1 Octobert 27th 1988
The Voice Inside
Melody Cool
Rave Un2 The joy Fantastic
God Is Alive
If I Had A Harem
Stimulation
Still Would Stand Alll Time
Elephants & Flowers
Big House
We Got The Power

Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic 2 (late 1988)
Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic
If I Had A Harem
Good Judy Girlfriend
Pink Cahsmere
Electric Chair
Am I Without U?
God Is Alive
Still Would Stand All Time
Moonbeam Levels

From: http://prince.org/msg/7/116565

There's more cross-up with Graffiti Bridge than with Batman because Graffiti Bridge had been in the works since 1987.



Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic 1 Octobert 27th 1988

The Voice Inside - released by Mavis Staples the voice inside
Melody Cool - released by Mavis Staples GB
Rave Un2 The joy Fantastic - unrealised ver
God Is Alive - unrealised ver
If I Had A Harem - unrealised ver
Stimulation - unrealised ver
Still Would Stand Alll Time - GB
Elephants & Flowers - GB
Big House - unrealised ver
We Got The Power - unrealised ver


Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic 2 (late 1988)

Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic - unrealised ver
If I Had A Harem - unrealised ver
Good Judy Girlfriend - Carmen Electra
Pink Cahsmere - greatest hits
Electric Chair - Batman
Am I Without U?- unrealised ver
God Is Alive - unrealised ver
Still Would Stand All Time - GB
Moonbeam Levels - unrealised ver





I think thats correct but I dont think I heard Am I with without U?

hmmm
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Reply #4 posted 05/21/09 7:20pm

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oldpurple said:[quote]

NouveauDance said:


Moonbeam Levels - unrealised ver



I thought Moonbeam was made in 1982?
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Reply #5 posted 05/21/09 7:21pm

Moonbeam

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This would be a great addition to LotusFlow3r.com nod
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Reply #6 posted 05/21/09 9:31pm

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Moonbeam said:

This would be a great addition to LotusFlow3r.com nod


Or a great follow-up album.
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Reply #7 posted 05/21/09 9:32pm

Moonbeam

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yoshimaroka said:[quote]

oldpurple said:

NouveauDance said:


Moonbeam Levels - unrealised ver



I thought Moonbeam was made in 1982?


It was originally. But it was reworked in '88.
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Reply #8 posted 05/21/09 9:48pm

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Did Prince record his own version of Melody Cool, or was it always Mavis on vocals?
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Reply #9 posted 05/21/09 11:18pm

HonestMan13

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In a Rolling Stone article it is mentioned that for the Batman movie Prince wrote an instrumental "The Batman Theme" that was later discarded and 2 songs "Rave to the Joy Fantastic" & "200 Balloons" that tim Burton didn't think worked with the film. When asked for more material Prince came back with "Trust" & "Partyman". batman
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Reply #10 posted 05/22/09 1:54am

NouveauDance

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bluefish said:

Did Prince record his own version of Melody Cool, or was it always Mavis on vocals?

There is a circulating version with Prince's vocal.

The track was one of the earliest recorded for Graffiti Bridge in '87, back when it was in earliest incarnation (this is the dreamy script with Camille, Sheila/Cat - no sequel to Purple Rain/The Time/Mavis/battle of the bands stuff that came later).


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Reply #11 posted 05/22/09 2:12am

Sophianestesia

NouveauDance said:

Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic 1 Octobert 27th 1988
The Voice Inside
Melody Cool
Rave Un2 The joy Fantastic
God Is Alive
If I Had A Harem
Stimulation
Still Would Stand Alll Time
Elephants & Flowers
Big House
We Got The Power

Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic 2 (late 1988)
Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic
If I Had A Harem
Good Judy Girlfriend
Pink Cahsmere
Electric Chair
Am I Without U?
God Is Alive
Still Would Stand All Time
Moonbeam Levels

From: http://prince.org/msg/7/116565

There's more cross-up with Graffiti Bridge than with Batman because Graffiti Bridge had been in the works since 1987.


Oh, wait, is that my very first post? U got my eyes wet... wink
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Reply #12 posted 05/22/09 2:59am

NouveauDance

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oldpurple said:

The Voice Inside - released by Mavis Staples the voice inside

'The Voice Inside' is different to 'The Voice' released by Mavis Staples.

The Voice Inside is more like 'Trust'.





Sophianestesia said:


Oh, wait, is that my very first post? U got my eyes wet... wink

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Reply #13 posted 05/22/09 5:38am

BorisFishpaw

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NouveauDance said:

bluefish said:

Did Prince record his own version of Melody Cool, or was it always Mavis on vocals?

There is a circulating version with Prince's vocal.

The track was one of the earliest recorded for Graffiti Bridge in '87, back when it was in earliest incarnation (this is the dreamy script with Camille, Sheila/Cat - no sequel to Purple Rain/The Time/Mavis/battle of the bands stuff that came later).


The circulating Prince vocal version is a later recording from the Graffiti
Bridge sessions, where Prince simply sang a guide vocal for Mavis to sing
over. The earlier unreleased version features slightly different lyrics and
is sung from a third person perspective... "They call her Melody Cool. She'll
make U break all the rules..."
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Reply #14 posted 05/22/09 7:07am

NouveauDance

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BorisFishpaw said:

NouveauDance said:


There is a circulating version with Prince's vocal.

The track was one of the earliest recorded for Graffiti Bridge in '87, back when it was in earliest incarnation (this is the dreamy script with Camille, Sheila/Cat - no sequel to Purple Rain/The Time/Mavis/battle of the bands stuff that came later).


The circulating Prince vocal version is a later recording from the Graffiti
Bridge sessions, where Prince simply sang a guide vocal for Mavis to sing
over. The earlier unreleased version features slightly different lyrics and
is sung from a third person perspective... "They call her Melody Cool. She'll
make U break all the rules..."

My bad. I had a long rambling post about it how I thought it sounded like a guide vocal, but had still originally been recorded previous to working with Mavis, but edited it out for succinctness (succinctity? lol )

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Reply #15 posted 05/22/09 8:56am

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I think Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic would have been a better follow-up to Lovesexy than Batman was. Now, Batman could be excused by being a soundtrack, but it certainly seemed to derail the creative momentum he had going. I think Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic would have been more appreciated by fans and critics alike. biggrin

And then Graffiti Bridge came along and did nothing to put Prince back on his critically acclaimed track. Again. it could be excused with being a soundtrack, but then came Diamonds And Pearls and it was evident that Prince had lost it. sad

It would have been interesting to see in which musical directions Prince would have gone following a release of Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic. Unfortunately, Warners didn't want to release a new Prince album so soon after Lovesexy at the time, so it's all Warners' fault that Prince's career got derailed. mad

It would be a wet dream come true if any or all of the Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic configurations ever got released. razz
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Reply #16 posted 05/22/09 9:48am

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scififilmnerd said:

I think Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic would have been a better follow-up to Lovesexy than Batman was. Now, Batman could be excused by being a soundtrack, but it certainly seemed to derail the creative momentum he had going. I think Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic would have been more appreciated by fans and critics alike. biggrin

And then Graffiti Bridge came along and did nothing to put Prince back on his critically acclaimed track. Again. it could be excused with being a soundtrack, but then came Diamonds And Pearls and it was evident that Prince had lost it. sad

It would have been interesting to see in which musical directions Prince would have gone following a release of Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic. Unfortunately, Warners didn't want to release a new Prince album so soon after Lovesexy at the time, so it's all Warners' fault that Prince's career got derailed. mad

It would be a wet dream come true if any or all of the Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic configurations ever got released. razz


A fellow orger who thinks much along the lines that I do! There's a recent thread about creativity and which albums ppl consider to highlight such peaks. Your comments are interesting to read. i agree. Batman til near the end of WB releases did feel like a derailment of sorts. That was the period when I lost the excited feel for every release for the firsdt time.

There have been some great subsequent creative periods TGE for example but his period was, IMO, not one of them.

Anyway, at the risk of highjacking this informative thread, I will STFU ! lol
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Reply #17 posted 05/22/09 10:12am

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But when Rave88 wasn't released, why did Prince called his album like that in 1999 when almost no original Rave-song was included? I don't get it.

And Yes, this would be a very pleasent next-release biggrin
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Reply #18 posted 05/22/09 10:19am

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Trashcat said:

But when Rave88 wasn't released, why did Prince called his album like that in 1999 when almost no original Rave-song was included? I don't get it.

And Yes, this would be a very pleasent next-release biggrin

When I learned of the original configuration of Rave from 88/89, I thought the same thing Trashcat. It should have been those songs and not what came out in 1999.

I agree with Moonbeam, this should go straight to lotusflow3r.com
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #19 posted 05/22/09 10:21am

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Yes its a shame the original wasn't released in 1999 instead as the Rave Un2 album only had the title track re-recorded and all other new songs...
The Voice Inside is one of Prince's best songs....Moonbeam Levels I believe he recorded around 1982 for inclusion on 1999, but perhaps he decided to put it on the tracklist.
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Reply #20 posted 05/22/09 10:25am

Sophianestesia

purplecam said:

Trashcat said:

But when Rave88 wasn't released, why did Prince called his album like that in 1999 when almost no original Rave-song was included? I don't get it.

And Yes, this would be a very pleasent next-release biggrin

When I learned of the original configuration of Rave from 88/89, I thought the same thing Trashcat. It should have been those songs and not what came out in 1999.

I agree with Moonbeam, this should go straight to lotusflow3r.com


Wish it could make it. But I doubt it. Remember, to Prince, what's past is past. And that's it.
I would also have liked to see that configuration, the one with Moonbeam Levels in it, to be released. But not all dreams come true (especially wet dreams SciFiNerd wink )

Anyway, I like the Batman album.
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Reply #21 posted 05/22/09 1:34pm

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Sophianestesia said:

purplecam said:


When I learned of the original configuration of Rave from 88/89, I thought the same thing Trashcat. It should have been those songs and not what came out in 1999.

I agree with Moonbeam, this should go straight to lotusflow3r.com


Wish it could make it. But I doubt it. Remember, to Prince, what's past is past. And that's it.
I would also have liked to see that configuration, the one with Moonbeam Levels in it, to be released. But not all dreams come true (especially wet dreams SciFiNerd wink )

Anyway, I like the Batman album.


Well, Roadhouse Garden was also past for Prince until he wanted to finish it with help from Wendy & Lisa.

ow, and blew the project into a thousand pieces with his selfish dollar-eyes.
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Reply #22 posted 05/22/09 1:41pm

Sophianestesia

Trashcat said:

Sophianestesia said:



Wish it could make it. But I doubt it. Remember, to Prince, what's past is past. And that's it.
I would also have liked to see that configuration, the one with Moonbeam Levels in it, to be released. But not all dreams come true (especially wet dreams SciFiNerd wink )

Anyway, I like the Batman album.


Well, Roadhouse Garden was also past for Prince until he wanted to finish it with help from Wendy & Lisa.

ow, and blew the project into a thousand pieces with his selfish dollar-eyes.


It seems he does that. But maybe he's convinced that his brand new material is far better than what could have been.
Paul McCartney, when asked which was the greatest song he ever wrote, he answered: 'The one I'm gonna write'.

I cannot say it's always true.

By the way, there are songs that never leaked, like say Good Judy Girlfriend or Stimulation.
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Reply #23 posted 05/22/09 1:50pm

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Trashcat said:

But when Rave88 wasn't released, why did Prince called his album like that in 1999 when almost no original Rave-song was included? I don't get it.

And Yes, this would be a very pleasent next-release biggrin


funny u say that cause 4 me when i listen 2 the song rave, i've always had the version from small club in 88 so in '99 it's a 11 year old track, once track 2 comes on that's when the present day prince showed up

some songs from the original configuration had been released since then but still it's odd 2 have a well known track 4 the diehards released as a title cut years later ..
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #24 posted 05/22/09 2:27pm

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I very much dig the 88 version of the song 'Rave unto the joy fantastic'. At least: the live version of the song on the 'Small Club' boot, i don't know if there is a studio-version of it from that year.

Anyway, it pisses all over the version from '99... lol

Some of his most ferocious guitar soloing I ever heard.
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Reply #25 posted 05/22/09 6:10pm

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Come on Prince, put it out! RAVE! R-A-V-E! Everybody on the one, sing it: Rave! You're from Compton; I want the crips!
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Reply #26 posted 05/22/09 6:12pm

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Moonbeam said:

Come on Prince, put it out! RAVE! R-A-V-E! Everybody on the one, sing it: Rave! You're from Compton; I want the crips!



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Imago said:

Thanks Moonbeam, give us a call when your shuttle lands hug


I brought a friend. It doesn't do hugs.

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