meow85 said:

I don't understand you, pardon, but how is it wrong saying NO to drugs,

P2daP said:

I don't smoke weed,
never did,
nor do I intend to...
but u'll never hear me sayin that I'm better than anyone else cause I don't/didn't smoke weed.

starbuck said:

He/She mistakingly assumed that I'm high/I smoke cause I said it was a bad choice of words to say they're better than someone else cause of their decision to smoke.
I was mainly addressin the 'high and mighty' approach.

thedance said:

Nobody said it is wrong to say no to drugs - that's your choice and should be respected. It is equally someone's choice to to say and they deserve the same respect.

Being self-righteous and blindly judgmental is what is reffered to as being wrong here - its known more commonly as PREJUDICE!

Don't need no reefer, don't need cocaine, purple music does the same to my brain.

Don't go into crack, you might never come back.

The ones who think they can experience more being under the influence of drugs didn't take enough time to enjoy real life (or here music), because Prince's lines up there are very true indeed. Music can make you high just the same. The only thing drugs do to you is blunting your emotions, so it will get even harder with time to enjoy things like music fully without drugs.

I have tried many things my own and I'm very glad I have come to realise that they are just one piece of shit and nothing more. I could have done without them too. I prefer enjoying music with a healthy body and mind, because its original effect comes closer to me when I'm not high or some shit like that. Period.

Dave1992 said:

Why so condescending? Its your choice, that's fine - no-one's forcing you to do otherwise. Most people can decide for themselves what's best for them. Sure, some people have a problem with drugs, most don't. Just like some people become alcoholics, most do not.

I enjoy music just as much when I am straight as when I am under the influence - its just a different take on things. To suggest people who take drugs cannot appreciate or enjoy "real life" is patronising and ill-informed.

Dave1992 said:

Cannabis does NOT blunt emotions, "drugs" might, but cannabis. does. NOT!!

Mindflux said:

Most people I know or I have heard of that take drugs regularly usually have issues with their life and can't cope with it because of drugs or they run to drugs to escape from reality. There might be some who are aware of the dangers and simply do it to try it out, but most drug users don't have a choice after some time, which is sad.

Dave1992 said:

It's not at all true that "most drug users don't have a choice" - the addicts, abusers and those that suffer are in a clear minority. Unfortunately, you seem to have associated with the minority.

People who "run to drugs to escape reality" are that sort of person anyway - the people that can't cope. Its not the drugs that are at fault there, it is the person themselves. And, if there were no illegal drugs, they would probably have turned to alcohol, or gambling, or self-harm or any other number of distractions - that's just who they are.

Mindflux said:

So that's what Prince wants us to do with MPLS

Style is great when I'm high, because it's about me!

meow85 said:

so i should display all of my family issues with drugs and what's it done 2 them 2 satisfy U? if u want 2 go on fucking up ur life with drugs go right ahead..i chose not 2 indulge and can listen 2 music without it 2 get me higher.

djThunderfunk said:

oh no? hmmmm u must know my family then ..NOT

thedance said:

Nothing wrong with saying no to drugs. But there's quite a lot wrong with looking down your nose at people who prefer to say yes.

Dave1992 said:

Drugs effect everyone differently. If you tried them and found they weren't to your liking and so made the decision not to indulge, that's fair. I respect your choice. But you'd be wrong if you're assuming your experience is what everyone gets from it. If that were the case, no one would touch the stuff.

Mindflux said:

Co-sign everything you said.

BAMBI

its better with a man

CHRISLUV92 said:

I smoke everynight before bed and I lay in bed with headphones on, I dont always listen to Prince but when I do it is usually one of the following...

3121
Sign O The Times
Musicology
Lotusflow3r
One Night Alone... Live (Nothing Compares 2 U is amazing)

When doing this you tend to pick up on musical elements that you don't normally pick up on.

Other albums good for this...

Atmosphere - Headshots: Se7en
Bizzy Bone - The Gift
Black Keys - Attack and Release

Mindflux said:

good response!

I might add that drugs don't necessarily help a person in that situation, but you're right, they don't create the problem. They may be a symptom of a larger problem.

L4OATheOriginal said:

if those family issues with drugs are with Marijuana, yes, share them, cuz nobody that has experience with marijuana believes that it can fuck up your life. if on the other hand those family issues are with dangerous drugs, not with marijuana, then no, keep it to yourself, cuz nobody here is talking about those drugs...

L4OATheOriginal said:

MAYBE marijuana LAWS fucked up your family, but not marijuana...
it's just not possible,
I don't know your family, but I know Mary Jane very well, she would never do that
if you are saying someone's life was destroyed by marijuana, not the legal status of marijuana, then you have to provide more info, cuz nope, I don't believe it.

djThunderfunk said:

yes and no. Weed kept me continually broke, and yes perhaps this is because it's illegal & expensive.

But my choice to buy it instead of basically anything else was because it's addictive, not just because it's illegal.

So it didn't make me an evil person, or drive me to crime, and in many ways it helped open my mind. But it is not without it's negative side, the most obvious being that I am practically still coughing up gray shit 6 years after my last bowl.

at this whole entire thread.

I DEFINITELY don't need drugs to "trip" out on music.

I get high on life & God and that's all I need.

Don't need no reefer
Don't need cocaine
Purple music does the same to my brain
And, I'm high
So high

djThunderfunk said:

ur very funny cause u want 2 justify that just smoking weed can't corupt and destroy a family just because of the laws of this land that say it illegal ..damn u need 2 stop smoking 4 real and maybe ur corrupted brain cells will b corrected. but it seems that it's already 2 damaged 2 recognize the ills of that so called "high" 2 recognize the damage it can cause 2 ur loved ones and the ones that love u in return.

NDRU said:

I wonder what was in that herb you smoked. I've been smoking for 22 years and still don't cough up gray shit. Nor does anyone I know, and most of them have smoked between 20-40 years... Also, neither myself or anyone I know who smokes are addicted to the point that all our money goes to weed. We all pay the bills, rent, none of us are "wealthy", we work for our money...
You might want to have a doctor test that "gray shit", that's not normal.

L4OATheOriginal said:

l4oa: you are so right...my best friend didn't use any other drug, and his wife and four kids left him. I'm so tired of people saying marijuana is harmless. It's illegal for a reason, and just because people can't die from using it doesn't mean other things can't be lost.

L4OATheOriginal said:

You don't understand me. What I'm saying is:
Weed does not destroy families.
Drug laws do destroy families.
Being arrested and going through the criminal justice system can destroy a family.
Smoking weed cannot.
Unless it's an extremely fragile family...
Oh, weed does not destroy brain cells either. Only one study ever claimed it did, and that study was debunked over 20 years ago. But I understand you wouldn't realize this as anti-drug crusades still cite the debunked study and still claim that it does destroy brain cells.
And trust me, ALL of my loved ones are aware I smoke weed, if it was damaging them they would let me know and if need be cut me loose.

djThunderfunk said:

oh, doctor, you are SO knowledgable. because neither you nor your friends have coughed up "gray shit", it's impossible that NDRU can cough up gray shit. that's one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard. Same thing with your comment about "not being addicted because you pay rent and bills." Have you lost ALL your brain cells? Don't strain your brain trying to answer that question. My friend, too, was not "wealthy"--until he quit the dope, that is. But it's not going to matter what I say. Toke up, my friend--lose those brain cells at break-neck speed. it's cool with me.

Rebelution said:

His family left him because of weed?!? Why? Did it make him mean? Did he spend the mortgage payment on weed?
Don't get me started on the "reasons" marijuana is illegal. Unless you have studied the subject extensively I probably know more about the history of the drug laws than you do. The reasons were ALL bullshit.

Obviously if one is obsessed with being high to the point that all they do is smoke weed their life will go downhill fast. Everything in moderation, right? But that person will do the same thing with alcohol, or pills, or gambling, or any other escapism they can find. That's a personality problem, not the weed.

djThunderfunk said:

where do you live, doctor??? i've got a cousin who works for the DEA...he'd like to have a "talk" with you.