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Reply #30 posted 04/30/09 6:06pm

Dayclear

It's a little over my head too, but I like 'She loves me for me'! biggrin
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Reply #31 posted 04/30/09 6:10pm

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The Rainbow Children is Prince's most successful "concept" album. He tried with Symbol and The Gold Experience, but those were tied together more by segues than by an actual "theme" (TGE suffers slightly from having it's original lead-off "Interactive" removed; a song that set the tone for the computer vibe).

TRC is pretty much a continuous theme throughout. The songs sound great on their own, but sound even better when listened to start-to-finish.

Having said that, concept albums are sometimes harder to absorb than normal albums (which are more "collections of songs").
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Reply #32 posted 04/30/09 7:23pm

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It's not weird, its just something you haven't opened your mind to yet. It's a great cd especially #3 at the beginning. I just love the factg that he used playful bordem of his fans (to include me). Give it a while you'll get it.
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Reply #33 posted 04/30/09 7:46pm

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trc1 said:

It's not weird, its just something you haven't opened your mind to yet. It's a great cd especially #3 at the beginning. I just love the factg that he used playful bordem of his fans (to include me). Give it a while you'll get it.


Opening your mind is one thing, but when garbage is dumped in, you tend to close it right back up for the time being.
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Reply #34 posted 04/30/09 7:54pm

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love it cept for weddng song
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Reply #35 posted 04/30/09 8:48pm

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ernestsewell said:

trc1 said:

It's not weird, its just something you haven't opened your mind to yet. It's a great cd especially #3 at the beginning. I just love the factg that he used playful bordem of his fans (to include me). Give it a while you'll get it.


Opening your mind is one thing, but when garbage is dumped in, you tend to close it right back up for the time being.


Then I guess your not muscially connected.
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Reply #36 posted 04/30/09 8:56pm

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Stop looking for the same song everytime P puts out a cd. Gotta learn to explore. I don't listen to P every single second of the day. I gotta change and go else where to vibe on something new. Musicians explore. If they didn't then we would still be listen to the same tune instead of adding a few more notes applied in a different direction.
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Reply #37 posted 04/30/09 8:59pm

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The Watchtower dogma throughout the lyrics kills it for me. Great music though.
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Reply #38 posted 04/30/09 9:01pm

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trc1 said:

ernestsewell said:



Opening your mind is one thing, but when garbage is dumped in, you tend to close it right back up for the time being.


Then I guess your not muscially connected.


That's a large statement by you especially since you don't know me. I'm a musician, and am quite connected to Prince's music as I am anyone's I'm a fan of. TRC is trash, preachy, disconnected, and ridiculous.
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Reply #39 posted 04/30/09 9:08pm

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ernestsewell said:

trc1 said:



Then I guess your not muscially connected.


That's a large statement by you especially since you don't know me. I'm a musician, and am quite connected to Prince's music as I am anyone's I'm a fan of. TRC is trash, preachy, disconnected, and ridiculous.


Yes it is a large statement. Explore a little. Let those of us who do get it enjoy it. He's got other cd's for you to enjoy.
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Reply #40 posted 04/30/09 9:12pm

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TRC is one of my favorites!
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Reply #41 posted 04/30/09 9:13pm

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I really and truly do not like Chaos and Disorder, but I'm not going to belittle it in a way to create pudding. I just leave it where I left it and groove on something else. Later i'll go back to it and understand it a bit.
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Reply #42 posted 04/30/09 9:13pm

ernestsewell

trc1 said:

Yes it is a large statement. Explore a little. Let those of us who do get it enjoy it. He's got other cd's for you to enjoy.


I don't seem to remember anyone telling you to burn your CD of TRC. I also don't remember saying I never explore music. You work with assumptions, I can see this now. I'll know how to handle you in the future. Thanks for opening my mind to that.
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Reply #43 posted 04/30/09 9:22pm

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ernestsewell said:

trc1 said:

Yes it is a large statement. Explore a little. Let those of us who do get it enjoy it. He's got other cd's for you to enjoy.


I don't seem to remember anyone telling you to burn your CD of TRC. I also don't remember saying I never explore music. You work with assumptions, I can see this now. I'll know how to handle you in the future. Thanks for opening my mind to that.


I have no intentions of burning any of my cd's. I don't work with assumption I work with an open mind just not right now with Chaos and Disorder. It will stay in the closet til I'm ready for it. Until then, I'm going to be a "Dreamer" for a while. Some great knowledge there. Any your very welcome.
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Reply #44 posted 04/30/09 9:32pm

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Rainbow Children is da bomb..great great album..did I already said great..and awesome.

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Reply #45 posted 04/30/09 10:11pm

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I love the rainbow children. It's one of his best albums and a return to form, from the up and down, hit or miss 1990's. This is album is well instructed. It should be listen to in it's entirety. It's not the type of album where you can say i like this, that and other other track. You either like the album or you don't. I feel if there was ever a time prince should have sequenced an album as one track it was this one.
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Reply #46 posted 04/30/09 10:50pm

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it's not the preaching per se, it's the content of the preaching. 'lovesexy's' lyrical content doesn't offend me.
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Reply #47 posted 04/30/09 11:30pm

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ernestsewell said:

DieLon said:

Is it me, or is this just an unconventional album? I seriously can't listen to just one song because it sounds imcomplete. Everytime I listen to do I have to do it from start to finish, with the exception of Last December. Anyone else feel this way?


I hate it from front to back. Absolutely loathe it. I'd rather listen to Graffiti Bridge backwards, than TRC at all.




WTF I guess to each their own but still WTF mad
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Reply #48 posted 04/30/09 11:31pm

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Dayclear said:

It's a little over my head too, but I like 'She loves me for me'! biggrin


Me too, that is my favorite track off TRC. I remember when I was at the celebration in Minneapolis, right before the album was released. After I heard, "She Loves Me 4 Me", I wanted the DJ to play it again. I liked it right away, which is unusual for me, even with Prince songs. giggle
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Reply #49 posted 04/30/09 11:32pm

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stanleylieber said:

it's not the preaching per se, it's the content of the preaching. 'lovesexy's' lyrical content doesn't offend me.




I like the preaching cuz to me it ain't preaching its just telling it how he sees it. BTW I am not by any means a JW not even if he came to my front door.
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Reply #50 posted 04/30/09 11:36pm

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DieLon said:

Is it me, or is this just an unconventional album? I seriously can't listen to just one song because it sounds imcomplete. Everytime I listen to do I have to do it from start to finish, with the exception of Last December. Anyone else feel this way?


Yes, this would be just you - you're supposed to listen to it all the way through.
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Reply #51 posted 04/30/09 11:37pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

My favorite of this decade. By far.


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No song on this album would be in my top 50, yet the album is one of my favorites. I very rarely pick a random song, and listen to it.
I have to be in the right mood, but typically listen to the album in full.


Ya'll must be too hip for the room then. And I don't mean this in a cool cat kinda way. Ya'll must be them three-minute hipsters that the radio is geared towards these days.
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Reply #52 posted 05/01/09 12:47am

vivid

DieLon said:

Is it me, or is this just an unconventional album? I seriously can't listen to just one song because it sounds imcomplete. Everytime I listen to do I have to do it from start to finish, with the exception of Last December. Anyone else feel this way?


It's the only Prince album in the last 29 years that I've loved all the way through.
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Reply #53 posted 05/01/09 1:30am

iloveannie

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No song on this album would be in my top 50, yet the album is one of my favorites.


I couldn't agree more. I like albums that are created as a whole. Anything less is just a collection of songs. Must be my prog-rock tendencies. For some reason the only other album of Prince's that I see as being an 'album' and not 'collection' is Lovesexy. But then when you remember that it is non-tracked that is probably the reason. They are not quite the same though lol
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Reply #54 posted 05/01/09 1:35am

iloveannie

DieLon said:

Is it me, or is this just an unconventional album? I seriously can't listen to just one song because it sounds imcomplete. Everytime I listen to do I have to do it from start to finish, with the exception of Last December. Anyone else feel this way?


Someone ages ago said to listen to Herbie Hancock's Headhunters. I'd recommend it even if you don't like TRC. It'll make you think if nothing else.
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Reply #55 posted 05/01/09 2:25am

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DieLon said:

Is it me, or is this just an unconventional album? I seriously can't listen to just one song because it sounds imcomplete.Everytime I listen to do I have to do it from start to finish, with the exception of Last December. Anyone else feel this way?


eek I thought it was just me!!! My fav track though is Everywhere.. I have that tune on repeat as I type.. cool
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Reply #56 posted 05/01/09 2:26am

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xenon said:

I love Rainbow Children!!

He really struck a chord with me around that time.
The whole TRC, ONA, NEWS, Expectation era is probably one of my favourite musical periods after the 80's.

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Reply #57 posted 05/01/09 3:06am

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Never thought the album was as great as some of the hardcore made it out to be. Sounds inspid at times, reminds me of sesame street sounding 70's jazz and that's not a good thing.

Although, as ever, P smacks it live, and ONA was one of his best tours ever!!
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Reply #58 posted 05/01/09 4:34am

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I suppose everyone is ready to slap me for this... but I believe b-4 TRC Prince was trapped in serious rut. His songs were not that great. His music was searching and failing. It was like how much worse can he make sound. I will always consider NPS and Rave as two of the worse albums in his career because he began to sound absolutely burned out, trying to make dead horses live.

TRC, while may not have 'hits' on it, was a rebirth. It was the most exciting album I had heard from him for a while. I remember when I went to record sto to buy it, I was saying, "If this doesn't sound new and surprising, I am finished with this guy." It was new, and way more mature than anything he had ever written, musically.

So I can't hate on TRC. Without it, we would have never had musicology, 3121, or the Lotusflw3r. I believe TRC is where he made a U turn back in to a good position.
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Reply #59 posted 05/01/09 4:51am

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The Rainbow Children is Lovesexy as a full grown adult. An intolerant, narrow-minded adult, but an adult nonetheless.

The Bob George voice says it all. It's pretty much that same character, only instead of a glowering husband, it's now a glowering Old Testament God. The Bob George/Spooky Electric voice, after all, was the counterpoint to Camille. The slowed down adult voice versus the sped up child voice. And now, that deep voice serves as narrator for a whole album. Bob George has taken over. "I pay the rent in this motherfucker. And all you do is suck up food and heat!" That's the basic sentiment behind The Rainbow Children, innit? It also sums up his attitude toward fans. Look at Prince's post-TRC career. He's all business now. Cleaning up his lyrics, filing lawsuits, making deals, getting paid.

Prince the idealist, the childlike innocent, died with The Rainbow Children. It was a decade-long death rattle, actually. Which explains all his death imagery in the 90s. He resisted adulthood as long as he could, but it eventually caught up to him. The Rainbow Children was Prince's belated bar mitzvah.
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