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catparker said: on a serious tip
why would you nutjobs be so happy about Prince having a #1 album the man clearly could care less about his fans the way he closes down fansites and doesn't listen to the fans requests for remastering his past albums so why the fuck would you want this prick to having any success at all? This is just ignorant. Prince closed down the NPGMC because of his divorce. It had NOTHING 2 do with his fans. Prince may not be responsible 4 the remastering of his catalog... that's likely up to Warner Bros. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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PEOPLE on billboard now it says that Keith Urban has debuted on NUMBER 1 which yes sucks for prince but who cares. [Edited 4/8/09 8:09am] | |
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Giovanni777 said: catparker said: on a serious tip
why would you nutjobs be so happy about Prince having a #1 album the man clearly could care less about his fans the way he closes down fansites and doesn't listen to the fans requests for remastering his past albums so why the fuck would you want this prick to having any success at all? This is just ignorant. Prince closed down the NPGMC because of his divorce. It had NOTHING 2 do with his fans. Prince may not be responsible 4 the remastering of his catalog... that's likely up to Warner Bros. I see I'm not the only one who knew that. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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catparker said: on a serious tip
why would you nutjobs be so happy about Prince having a #1 album the man clearly could care less about his fans the way he closes down fansites and doesn't listen to the fans requests for remastering his past albums so why the fuck would you want this prick to having any success at all? the fact that you even post here is more nutty. my goodness, its amazing how Prince has this hold on haters. they just can't walk away and forget about him.  | |
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And AGAIN, i want to remind people that even though he came in at #2 it doesn't make the album any less incredible and the fact that it was only sold at Target and came in at #2 makes it almost more impressive. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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wonder505 said: catparker said: on a serious tip
why would you nutjobs be so happy about Prince having a #1 album the man clearly could care less about his fans the way he closes down fansites and doesn't listen to the fans requests for remastering his past albums so why the fuck would you want this prick to having any success at all? the fact that you even post here is more nutty. my goodness, its amazing how Prince has this hold on haters. they just can't walk away and forget about him. They're gluttons for punishment. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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YAY!!!! Finally a deserving artist...eye pray that Prince stays at the top of the charts 4 atl least a month! | |
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purplecam said:  Damn. Prince #2..... 
(...)"Prince's Target-exclusive "LotusFlow3r" (NPG) album arrives close behind at No. 2 with 168,000, giving the artist his 14th top 10 set. The triple-disc indie effort carries an economical $11.98 price tag and includes an album from Prince protege Bria Valente. Prince's 2003 set "Musicology" started at No. 3 with 191,000; 2006's "3121" began at No. 1 with 183,000 and 2007's "Planet Earth" entered at No. 3 with 96,000." Lotus Flow3r is still doing a lot better than Planet Earth though  [Edited 4/8/09 8:26am] Prince 4Ever.  | |
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thedance said: Okay, it's a scary day on the Org when i'm the voice of reason. He didn't miss #1 by that much, and the cd was only sold at Target. If he'd let everyone sell it there's no telling what the number might have been. So there's really nothing to get bummed about! The album is still incredible!!! http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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ButterscotchPimp said: thedance said: Damn. Prince #2..... Okay, it's a scary day on the Org when i'm the voice of reason. He didn't miss #1 by that much, and the cd was only sold at Target. If he'd let everyone sell it there's no telling what the number might have been. So there's really nothing to get bummed about! The album is still incredible!!! But that's a small part of why it's kinda bittersweet. It was so close, by what 3,000 copies. That's the part that's the downer for me but you are right, he did VERY well under the circumstances and I'm proud of him for doing what he's done. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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I just saw this on Dr FB: www.docfb.com
Prince’s new 3 cd set Lotus Flow3r debuted at number 2 on the Billboard 200 with about 168,000 sold, although Hits Magazine had Prince at number 1 with almost 20,000 more copies sold. Keith Urban outsold Prince by 3,000 copies if the numbers stay the same.Hits numbers usually always differ from soundscan, which is what Billboard and the public go by. We are wondering where those 20,000 copies went or were they not counted. It is an impressive debut but if those 20,000 copies were sold, the CD should be at number 1. Perhaps what Prince said about the music industry is true and then Bria Valente actually lost the bet…. Billboard is the gold standard. Let me say this; Lotus Flow3er is Prince’s best first week sales since 3121, which debuted at number 1 with over 180,000 sold. The music industry is everchanging and Prince is still that dude challenging it, 25 years after his first number 1 album on Billboard. Prince (and Bria), you may not have debuted at number 1 but you are number 1 with us.-Dr.FB [Edited 4/8/09 8:56am] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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asg said: LW TW artist / album label power index % change
-- 1 PRINCE NPG 185,956 -- LOTUS FLOW3R -- 2 KEITH URBAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE 177,292 -- DEFYING GRAVITY -- 3 DIANA KRALL VERVE 101,168 -- QUIET NIGHTS 1 4 NOW 30 UME 85,576 -42% VARIOUS ARTISTS 2 5 HANNAH MONTANA: THE MOVIE WALT DISNEY RECORDS 83,969 -39% SOUNDTRACK -- 6 UGK JIVE/JLG 71,281 -- UGK 4 LIFE 3 7 TWILIGHT ATLANTIC 71,138 -31% SOUNDTRACK -- 8 FLO RIDA ATLANTIC 55,022 -- R.O.O.T.S. 8 9 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 49,507 +8% FAME 11 10 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 40,453 +3% FEARLESS 6 11 U2 INTERSCOPE 36,110 -30% NO LINE ON THE HORIZON -- 12 RODNEY ATKINS CURB 34,877 -- IT'S AMERICA -- 13 CHRIS BOTTI COLUMBIA 34,591 -- CHRIS BOTTI IN BOSTON 7 14 KELLY CLARKSON RCA/RMG 33,763 -33% ALL I EVER WANTED 4 15 KERI HILSON INTERSCOPE 33,227 -65% IN A PERFECT WORLD 17 16 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER 29,345 -1% DARK HORSE -- 17 GAVIN DEGRAW J RECORDS/RMG 28,065 -- FREE -- 18 BOW WOW COLUMBIA 28,013 -- NEW JACK CITY II 13 19 THE-DREAM DEF JAM/IDJMG 27,972 -23% LOVE VS. MONEY -- 20 DAVID COOK 19/RCA/RMG 25,969 -- DAVID COOK 23 21 BEYONCE COLUMBIA 23,130 +4% I AM... SASHA FIERCE 24 22 JAMIE FOXX J RECORDS/RMG 21,972 +2% INTUITION 26 23 T.I. GRAND HUSTLE/ATLANTIC 21,874 +9% PAPER TRAIL -- 24 DONNIE MCCLURKIN VERITY/JLG 21,071 -- WE ARE ALL ONE (LIVE IN DETROIT) 27 25 THE FRAY EPIC 20,172 +6% THE FRAY -- 26 SILVERSTEIN VICTORY 19,015 -- SHIPWRECK IN THE SAND -- 27 QUEENSRYCHE RHINO 18,464 -- AMERICAN SOLDIER 29 28 KINGS OF LEON RCA/RMG 18,222 0% ONLY BY THE NIGHT 33 29 ZAC BROWN BAND ATLANTIC 17,847 +12% FOUNDATION -- 30 YEAH YEAH YEAHS INTERSCOPE 17,533 -- IT'S BLITZ! 28 31 JASON MRAZ ATLANTIC 17,188 -9% WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THINGS 32 32 CARRIE UNDERWOOD ARISTA NASHVILLE 16,444 0% CARNIVAL RIDE 22 33 ADELE COLUMBIA 15,898 -30% 19 9 34 PAPA ROACH GEFFEN 15,392 -64% METAMORPHOSIS 16 35 JOHN RICH WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 14,614 -54% SON OF A PREACHER MAN 35 36 DARIUS RUCKER CAPITOL NASHVILLE 14,269 +2% LEARN TO LIVE 5 37 PEARL JAM LEGACY 14,238 -76% TEN (LEGACY EDITION) 10 38 MARTINA MCBRIDE RCA NASHVILLE 14,152 -65% SHINE -- 39 DEATH CAB FOR CUTIE ATLANTIC 13,762 -- OPEN DOOR EP 39 40 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 13,730 +9% TAYLOR SWIFT 15 41 MASTODON REPRISE 13,671 -59% CRACK THE SKYE 38 42 BRITNEY SPEARS JIVE/JLG 13,372 -1% CIRCUS 37 43 P!NK LAFACE/JLG 13,277 -2% FUNHOUSE 41 44 THEORY OF A DEADMAN ROADRUNNER 13,255 +10% SCARS & SOUVENIRS 46 45 SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE N.E.E.T./INTERSCOPE 12,936 +20% SOUNDTRACK 31 46 NOW POWER BALLADS UME 12,649 -27% VARIOUS ARTISTS 18 47 SLIM THUG E1 MUSIC 12,415 -57% BOSS OF ALL BOSSES 12 48 JIM JONES COLUMBIA 12,020 -68% PREY FOR REIGN 36 49 KANYE WEST ROC-A-FELLA/IDJMG 11,588 -15% 808S & HEARTBREAK 21 50 DECEMBERISTS CAPITOL 11,567 -51% Prince does not debut at #1. Keith Urban does with 171,00 untis sold. Prince is aa close second with 168,000. This is from Billboard. | |
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MyLawd said: you didn't swear, sing about explicit sex, you were spiritual
You haven't played these albums yet, have you. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: thedance said: Damn. Prince #2..... Okay, it's a scary day on the Org when i'm the voice of reason. He didn't miss #1 by that much, and the cd was only sold at Target. If he'd let everyone sell it there's no telling what the number might have been. So there's really nothing to get bummed about! The album is still incredible!!! I understand your point, but no excuses. Prince sold well and he should be happy. Not so long ago 200,000 sales would not put you in the top 5 let alone a battle for #1. Prince I would bet is pleased. | |
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purplecam said: I just saw this on Dr FB: www.docfb.com
-snip- We are wondering where those 20,000 copies went or were they not counted. It is an impressive debut but if those 20,000 copies were sold, the CD should be at number 1. -snip- come on now. how would they know if those copies were sold? the whole point of soundscan is that it is a mechanized way to count the units. the reason it was adopted is because it was more accurate than the previous methods, which in many cases relied upon guesswork. it's not that i trust soundscan or billboard, but this is just purely made up. recount!  it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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Giovanni777 said: catparker said: on a serious tip
why would you nutjobs be so happy about Prince having a #1 album the man clearly could care less about his fans the way he closes down fansites and doesn't listen to the fans requests for remastering his past albums so why the fuck would you want this prick to having any success at all? This is just ignorant. Prince closed down the NPGMC because of his divorce. It had NOTHING 2 do with his fans. Prince may not be responsible 4 the remastering of his catalog... that's likely up to Warner Bros. Umm, when you are taking people's money you owe it to them, not to let your personal problems stop you from delivering the service. Many people paid Prince money and got little to nothing in return. No excuses, he should have QUICKLY made things right. Refunds, working MP3's... something! Dude, did not explain, did not make it right. He's a freaking multi-millionaire. He could easily have corrected the problem if he gave a damn! He spends more money on light-up shoes and  symbols on his limos than what a refund would have costed. | |
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i doubt if dr fb (or prince, through him) would be pointing fingers if trade magazines showed prince at #2 and soundscan showed him at #1.
prince has complained about soundscan not counting sales from mom and pop stores before, but in this case target is the only retail outlet. maybe prince doesn't believe target.  it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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The key lesson learned here is don't rely on Hits Daily Double for CD sales reports.  | |
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Copycat said: The key lesson learned here is don't rely on Hits Daily Double for CD sales reports.
or just take it as a guide. | |
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cue "the charts don't matter" it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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stanleylieber said: cue "the charts don't matter"
The American charts don't matter. | |
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Spank86 said: stanleylieber said: cue "the charts don't matter"
The American charts don't matter.  it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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So the next improved deal set-up is:
a) record album b) hype it into heaven c) make deal with US retailer which has online sales credibility d) release in USA only for the first month e) bingo! #1 Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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purplecam said: I just saw this on Dr FB: www.docfb.com
Prince’s new 3 cd set Lotus Flow3r debuted at number 2 on the Billboard 200 with about 168,000 sold, although Hits Magazine had Prince at number 1 with almost 20,000 more copies sold. Keith Urban outsold Prince by 3,000 copies if the numbers stay the same.Hits numbers usually always differ from soundscan, which is what Billboard and the public go by. We are wondering where those 20,000 copies went or were they not counted. It is an impressive debut but if those 20,000 copies were sold, the CD should be at number 1. Perhaps what Prince said about the music industry is true and then Bria Valente actually lost the bet…. Billboard is the gold standard. Let me say this; Lotus Flow3er is Prince’s best first week sales since 3121, which debuted at number 1 with over 180,000 sold. The music industry is everchanging and Prince is still that dude challenging it, 25 years after his first number 1 album on Billboard. Prince (and Bria), you may not have debuted at number 1 but you are number 1 with us.-Dr.FB [Edited 4/8/09 8:56am] That's okay. He still did good! | |
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udo said: So the next improved deal set-up is:
a) record album b) hype it into heaven c) make deal with US retailer which has online sales credibility d) release in USA only for the first month e) bingo! #1 or if he'd released it one week earlier he would have been no1 by a mile. | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: And AGAIN, i want to remind people that even though he came in at #2 it doesn't make the album any less incredible and the fact that it was only sold at Target and came in at #2 makes it almost more impressive.
your right this made his his 14th top | |
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Spank86 said: stanleylieber said: cue "the charts don't matter"
The American charts don't matter. 
George Bush don't care about charts. • Did you first think Prince was gay? •
Wendy: He’s a girl, for sure, but he’s not gay. He looked at me like a gay woman would look at another woman. Lisa: Totally. He’s like a fancy lesbian. | |
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I wonder how this Urban guy would've done if he only sold through Target? 
How popular is he in the US? Wat genre of music he does? I have no idea who this Urban guy is, so for those of u who do know, do u think he would've come in at #2 like Prince if he took the distribution road Prince took? I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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