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PRINCE IS #1 186K

LW TW artist / album label power index % change
-- 1 PRINCE NPG 185,956 --
LOTUS FLOW3R
-- 2 KEITH URBAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE 177,292 --
DEFYING GRAVITY
-- 3 DIANA KRALL VERVE 101,168 --
QUIET NIGHTS
1 4 NOW 30 UME 85,576 -42%
VARIOUS ARTISTS
2 5 HANNAH MONTANA: THE MOVIE WALT DISNEY RECORDS 83,969 -39%
SOUNDTRACK
-- 6 UGK JIVE/JLG 71,281 --
UGK 4 LIFE
3 7 TWILIGHT ATLANTIC 71,138 -31%
SOUNDTRACK
-- 8 FLO RIDA ATLANTIC 55,022 --
R.O.O.T.S.
8 9 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 49,507 +8%
FAME
11 10 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 40,453 +3%
FEARLESS
6 11 U2 INTERSCOPE 36,110 -30%
NO LINE ON THE HORIZON
-- 12 RODNEY ATKINS CURB 34,877 --
IT'S AMERICA
-- 13 CHRIS BOTTI COLUMBIA 34,591 --
CHRIS BOTTI IN BOSTON
7 14 KELLY CLARKSON RCA/RMG 33,763 -33%
ALL I EVER WANTED
4 15 KERI HILSON INTERSCOPE 33,227 -65%
IN A PERFECT WORLD
17 16 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER 29,345 -1%
DARK HORSE
-- 17 GAVIN DEGRAW J RECORDS/RMG 28,065 --
FREE
-- 18 BOW WOW COLUMBIA 28,013 --
NEW JACK CITY II
13 19 THE-DREAM DEF JAM/IDJMG 27,972 -23%
LOVE VS. MONEY
-- 20 DAVID COOK 19/RCA/RMG 25,969 --
DAVID COOK
23 21 BEYONCE COLUMBIA 23,130 +4%
I AM... SASHA FIERCE
24 22 JAMIE FOXX J RECORDS/RMG 21,972 +2%
INTUITION
26 23 T.I. GRAND HUSTLE/ATLANTIC 21,874 +9%
PAPER TRAIL
-- 24 DONNIE MCCLURKIN VERITY/JLG 21,071 --
WE ARE ALL ONE (LIVE IN DETROIT)
27 25 THE FRAY EPIC 20,172 +6%
THE FRAY
-- 26 SILVERSTEIN VICTORY 19,015 --
SHIPWRECK IN THE SAND
-- 27 QUEENSRYCHE RHINO 18,464 --
AMERICAN SOLDIER
29 28 KINGS OF LEON RCA/RMG 18,222 0%
ONLY BY THE NIGHT
33 29 ZAC BROWN BAND ATLANTIC 17,847 +12%
FOUNDATION
-- 30 YEAH YEAH YEAHS INTERSCOPE 17,533 --
IT'S BLITZ!
28 31 JASON MRAZ ATLANTIC 17,188 -9%
WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THINGS
32 32 CARRIE UNDERWOOD ARISTA NASHVILLE 16,444 0%
CARNIVAL RIDE
22 33 ADELE COLUMBIA 15,898 -30%
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9 34 PAPA ROACH GEFFEN 15,392 -64%
METAMORPHOSIS
16 35 JOHN RICH WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 14,614 -54%
SON OF A PREACHER MAN
35 36 DARIUS RUCKER CAPITOL NASHVILLE 14,269 +2%
LEARN TO LIVE
5 37 PEARL JAM LEGACY 14,238 -76%
TEN (LEGACY EDITION)
10 38 MARTINA MCBRIDE RCA NASHVILLE 14,152 -65%
SHINE
-- 39 DEATH CAB FOR CUTIE ATLANTIC 13,762 --
OPEN DOOR EP
39 40 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 13,730 +9%
TAYLOR SWIFT
15 41 MASTODON REPRISE 13,671 -59%
CRACK THE SKYE
38 42 BRITNEY SPEARS JIVE/JLG 13,372 -1%
CIRCUS
37 43 P!NK LAFACE/JLG 13,277 -2%
FUNHOUSE
41 44 THEORY OF A DEADMAN ROADRUNNER 13,255 +10%
SCARS & SOUVENIRS
46 45 SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE N.E.E.T./INTERSCOPE 12,936 +20%
SOUNDTRACK
31 46 NOW POWER BALLADS UME 12,649 -27%
VARIOUS ARTISTS
18 47 SLIM THUG E1 MUSIC 12,415 -57%
BOSS OF ALL BOSSES
12 48 JIM JONES COLUMBIA 12,020 -68%
PREY FOR REIGN
36 49 KANYE WEST ROC-A-FELLA/IDJMG 11,588 -15%
808S & HEARTBREAK
21 50 DECEMBERISTS CAPITOL 11,567 -51%
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Reply #1 posted 04/07/09 1:13pm

daPrettyman

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Is this from billboard? There is a thread about the Hits and Daily Double numbers.
http://prince.org/msg/7/304122
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Reply #2 posted 04/07/09 1:14pm

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eek


Congrats to the man on another #1 album (Provided Billboard numbers hold up )


This is gonna surprise alot of people . Numbers came in much higher than original estimates
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Reply #3 posted 04/07/09 1:15pm

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Is this final? OMG!!!!! Please God I hope this is true! pray
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #4 posted 04/07/09 1:16pm

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Wow, not bad for just selling it at one retailer. Who needs record companies when all you need to do is get together with a popular retailer, get them to promote you with a commercial, go on a late night show for 3 nights to promote it, do 3 concerts in a day, and open a website to draw attention to your album? Cool. headbang Even the haters couldn't stop that.
[Edited 4/7/09 13:21pm]
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Reply #5 posted 04/07/09 1:16pm

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purplecam said:

Is this final? OMG!!!!! Please God I hope this is true! pray


Final per hits daily double. Billboard / soundscan released tomorrow
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Reply #6 posted 04/07/09 1:17pm

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newpower99 said:[quote]eek
[Edited 4/7/09 13:21pm]
I've got a guitar that can part the sea.
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Reply #7 posted 04/07/09 1:18pm

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newpower99 said:

purplecam said:

Is this final? OMG!!!!! Please God I hope this is true! pray


Final per hits daily double. Billboard / soundscan released tomorrow

My God my God! I hope this sticks with Billboard!
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #8 posted 04/07/09 1:20pm

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Man, finally a successful campaign to promote an album. Just think, he didn't even have to leave home to do it.
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Reply #9 posted 04/07/09 1:20pm

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Congrats Prince! The two copies I bought helped. smile. Gotta buy more 2 give as gifts 4 Easter! smile
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



"We had fun, didn't we?"
-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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Reply #10 posted 04/07/09 1:20pm

Seventeen

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These numbers are close so I assume we have to wait for Billboard.

Billboard uses soundscan numbers, I believe. Is there anyway we can see what

those numbers look like or do we just have to wait until tomorrow.

How close are the hits daily double numbers to soundscan usually?

I know hits only gets figures from about six retailers or so; does soundscan

work differently?
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Reply #11 posted 04/07/09 1:21pm

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I'm buying 2 more copies for friends this week. The 2nd week is more important to me than the 1st. I would just love to see this stay on the top 10 next week, even at #10.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #12 posted 04/07/09 1:22pm

Number23

Doesn't this mean just 60k has been sold? If he's actually shifted more then 180k units I'd be very surprised. I'd think it counts as three for each cd. Then there are the bulk numbers which worldwide distributors have bought from Target - thousands, likely. I'd love for this CD to be a huge success, but, I'm realistic. Holding back the worldwide release might just be a marketing move to boost his first week position in the US. Another unique chart cheat from the wee man! lol
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Reply #13 posted 04/07/09 1:22pm

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I totally agree with you. Even U2 stuck around the top ten for only three weeks.
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Reply #14 posted 04/07/09 1:22pm

emesem

Not bad but back in the old days 185k wouldnt even get you to Top 20.
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Reply #15 posted 04/07/09 1:23pm

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Seventeen said:

These numbers are close so I assume we have to wait for Billboard.

Billboard uses soundscan numbers, I believe. Is there anyway we can see what

those numbers look like or do we just have to wait until tomorrow.

How close are the hits daily double numbers to soundscan usually?

I know hits only gets figures from about six retailers or so; does soundscan

work differently?

http://www.hitsdailydoubl...lescht.cgi

I believe Hits and Daily Double goes by soundscan numbers. I dont' think the website downloads will count, though.
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Reply #16 posted 04/07/09 1:23pm

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Is there a summary that lists first week sales and chart positions of Prince's 2000's albums? I'd be curious to see where this stacks up with other debut week sales.
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The Deluxe 'Purple Rain' Reissue

http://www.popmatters.com...n-reissue/
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Reply #17 posted 04/07/09 1:25pm

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Number23 said:

Doesn't this mean just 60k has been sold? If he's actually shifted more then 180k units I'd be very surprised. I'd think it counts as three for each cd. Then there are the bulk numbers which worldwide distributors have bought from Target - thousands, likely. I'd love for this CD to be a huge success, but, I'm realistic. Holding back the worldwide release might just be a marketing move to boost his first week position in the US. Another unique chart cheat from the wee man! lol


I believe 1 set counts as one unit, but I could be wrong.

Why can't you just give the man his due!

He sold the set at an affordable price and did some decent promotion for it. Remember this is without radio or video airplay.
I've got a guitar that can part the sea.
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Reply #18 posted 04/07/09 1:26pm

emesem

Seventeen said:

These numbers are close so I assume we have to wait for Billboard.

Billboard uses soundscan numbers, I believe. Is there anyway we can see what

those numbers look like or do we just have to wait until tomorrow.

How close are the hits daily double numbers to soundscan usually?

I know hits only gets figures from about six retailers or so; does soundscan

work differently?


Its usually pretty close but they have sometimes been off enough to change the order.
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Reply #19 posted 04/07/09 1:26pm

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Number23 said:

Doesn't this mean just 60k has been sold? If he's actually shifted more then 180k units I'd be very surprised. I'd think it counts as three for each cd. Then there are the bulk numbers which worldwide distributors have bought from Target - thousands, likely. I'd love for this CD to be a huge success, but, I'm realistic. Holding back the worldwide release might just be a marketing move to boost his first week position in the US. Another unique chart cheat from the wee man! lol



No. Its a legit 186k units .
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Reply #20 posted 04/07/09 1:26pm

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emesem said:

Not bad but back in the old days 185k wouldnt even get you to Top 20.


Sign of the times!
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Reply #21 posted 04/07/09 1:26pm

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This kinda difference should hold for soundscan too. Hits is very close to soundscan and we will have the real numbers in the morning arounf 10am EST
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Reply #22 posted 04/07/09 1:27pm

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we just have 2 wait 4 the Billboard numbers! cool cool
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Reply #23 posted 04/07/09 1:28pm

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I don't care about charts or anything, but I must say this is a huge surprise. I never expected this. Not bad for an indie artist with with no radio play. Even if he comes in #2, to all the haters: evillol evillol evillol evillol

sorry. biggrin
[Edited 4/7/09 13:28pm]
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Reply #24 posted 04/07/09 1:29pm

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Number23 said:

Doesn't this mean just 60k has been sold? If he's actually shifted more then 180k units I'd be very surprised. I'd think it counts as three for each cd. Then there are the bulk numbers which worldwide distributors have bought from Target - thousands, likely. I'd love for this CD to be a huge success, but, I'm realistic. Holding back the worldwide release might just be a marketing move to boost his first week position in the US. Another unique chart cheat from the wee man! lol


Give credit where it's due! Prince SOLD 185,00 copies of Lotusflow3r. Soundscan doesn't multiply the number for multiple discs...the RIAA does that for gold and platinum certifications. So the album will already be certified Gold since 185,000x3=555,000 (you need 500k discs SHIPPED for gold certification).

RIAA certification is for units shipped, Soundscan numbers are for units SOLD. More than 185,000 copies of Lotusflow3r were purchased.
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Reply #25 posted 04/07/09 1:30pm

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I would like a emoticpn from the playa haters tomorrow if he comes out #1. You know who you are! tease
Prince's Sarah
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Reply #26 posted 04/07/09 1:32pm

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wonder505 said:

I don't care about charts or anything, but I must say this is a huge surprise. I never expected this. Not bad for an indie artist with with no radio play. Even if he comes in #2, to all the haters: evillol evillol evillol evillol

sorry. biggrin
[Edited 4/7/09 13:28pm]

Ooooowwwww! I'm not about the charts much anymore but damnit if this isn't sweet like Chocolate! Woo!!!!!
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #27 posted 04/07/09 1:32pm

Number23

Seventeen said:

Number23 said:

Doesn't this mean just 60k has been sold? If he's actually shifted more then 180k units I'd be very surprised. I'd think it counts as three for each cd. Then there are the bulk numbers which worldwide distributors have bought from Target - thousands, likely. I'd love for this CD to be a huge success, but, I'm realistic. Holding back the worldwide release might just be a marketing move to boost his first week position in the US. Another unique chart cheat from the wee man! lol


I believe 1 set counts as one unit, but I could be wrong.

Why can't you just give the man his due!

He sold the set at an affordable price and did some decent promotion for it. Remember this is without radio or video airplay.

Behave yourself. Read what I wrote. 'I'd love for this CD to be a huge success'. I always give Prince - or any artist - their 'due' when they deserve it. If the 180k is legit, then I'm first in the queue to congratulate him. However, only a [Snip - luv4u] believes all those copies went to 180,000 fans. Thousands bought by world-wide distributors. Thousands of extra copies bought by nutters. I'm not a hater just because I'm not blind.
[Edited 4/7/09 13:33pm]
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Reply #28 posted 04/07/09 1:33pm

Number23

renfield said:

Number23 said:

Doesn't this mean just 60k has been sold? If he's actually shifted more then 180k units I'd be very surprised. I'd think it counts as three for each cd. Then there are the bulk numbers which worldwide distributors have bought from Target - thousands, likely. I'd love for this CD to be a huge success, but, I'm realistic. Holding back the worldwide release might just be a marketing move to boost his first week position in the US. Another unique chart cheat from the wee man! lol


Give credit where it's due! Prince SOLD 185,00 copies of Lotusflow3r. Soundscan doesn't multiply the number for multiple discs...the RIAA does that for gold and platinum certifications. So the album will already be certified Gold since 185,000x3=555,000 (you need 500k discs SHIPPED for gold certification).

RIAA certification is for units shipped, Soundscan numbers are for units SOLD. More than 185,000 copies of Lotusflow3r were purchased.

See above.
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Reply #29 posted 04/07/09 1:34pm

Number23

newpower99 said:

Number23 said:

Doesn't this mean just 60k has been sold? If he's actually shifted more then 180k units I'd be very surprised. I'd think it counts as three for each cd. Then there are the bulk numbers which worldwide distributors have bought from Target - thousands, likely. I'd love for this CD to be a huge success, but, I'm realistic. Holding back the worldwide release might just be a marketing move to boost his first week position in the US. Another unique chart cheat from the wee man! lol



No. Its a legit 186k units .

How do you know?
[Edited 4/7/09 13:34pm]
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