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Thread started 03/20/09 8:56am

BobGeorge67

Associated Press Review - "Prince's 3-CD set is wildly uneven "

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I saw the following review on Yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...hTsA9xFb8C

Review: Prince's 3-CD set is wildly uneven

By JOSH L. DICKEY, AP Entertainment Writer Josh L. Dickey, Ap Entertainment Writer

Prince, "LOtUSFLOW3R"

Of the 31 tracks on Prince's new three-CD fire sale, only a handful will glint in the eyes of loyal fans who still sift his newer material for rare gems. To those awaiting a free sample on the radio, sorry you aren't going to get one this time around, either.

It's been 15 years since a Prince single cracked the Top 10 ("The Most Beautiful Girl in the World" charted No. 3 in 1994), and nothing from these three discs sounds in danger of breaking that streak.

The rare die-hard who understood "The Rainbow Children," Prince's wildly conceptual Jehova's Witnesses manifesto from 2001, may be able to translate the shifting language of "LOtUSFLOW3R," the central record in this effort. It's heavy and esoteric at times, jaunty and jammy at times, and highly indulgent all the time.

Thing is, if you're going to listen to someone indulge themselves in genre-bending psychedelia, it may as well be this guy.

The best track is "Boom," with its melody that descends like a dazzling meteor shower, ponderous slabs of wet bass crashing all around and light saber-buzz guitar to slice through it all. The song embodies the dark yet delicate surrealism of the new fan site that Prince helped design, lotusflow3r.com, from which "members" can download all three albums as part of a $77 annual subscription fee beginning Tuesday.

The deal includes a T-shirt, dibs on concert tickets, access to a vast archive of concert video footage and other digital geek-out goodies. (The three-CD set is being sold in its physical form exclusively at Target for a much more earthly $11.98.)

On another guitar-heavy highlight, "Dreamer," Prince unabashedly echoes Jimi Hendrix's "Voodoo Child" in fact, the better part of "LOtUSFLOW3R" careens around the edges of the bluesy, spacey trail that Jimi blazed. But its unevenness is its undoing; weird mumbling, random atmospherics, dissonant touches and an unnecessary cover of "Crimson and Clover" punch gaping holes in the cosmic seriousness with which the record takes itself.

Thank goodness, then, for "MPLSoUND," much of which may be the artist's greatest gift to fans in many years.

The disc starts out as an old-school romp that sounds as if Prince rolled up the rusted door of a warehouse behind Paisley Park, surveyed the dusty, vintage synth gear, and said to the posse behind him: "Fellas, let's make a funky record today."

The first few tracks could almost be mistaken for "Controversy" outtakes: You'll recognize the dry, flat pop of primitive electronic drums, campy whirl of analog keyboards and wild-eyed vocal stylings that ground an edge on Prince's early stuff. But sure enough, even "MPLSoUND" gets bogged down in throwaway slow-jams and shuffles that suck nearly all the fun energy from a promisingly rowdy start.

A third CD, entirely sung by new protege Bria Valente, is so lifeless and irrelevant as to hardly merit mention here. "Elixer" is a wholly forgettable trudge through generic R&B plodders that would drag down the most dynamic of singers; and Valente is not one. Her breathy whispers and naughty good looks, for that matter are more reminiscent of Ashley Alexandra Dupre than Apollonia.

The good news is that at $11.98 for all three, you can afford to rip the good tracks from "LOtUSFLOW3R" and "MPLSoUND" to your iPod, then use "Elixer" as a mirror to work on your air-guitar face. Because you're going to need it.
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Reply #1 posted 03/20/09 9:01am

LiveToTell86

Wow, that's quite a bad review... confused
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Reply #2 posted 03/20/09 9:04am

Genesia

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It's one person's opinion.
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Reply #3 posted 03/20/09 9:06am

Graycap23

I thought I Hate U was in the top 10?
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Reply #4 posted 03/20/09 9:08am

Anxiety

i for one am very excited to hear weird mumbling, random atmospherics, dissonant touches and an unnecessary cover of "Crimson and Clover". nod
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Reply #5 posted 03/20/09 9:09am

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Anxiety said:

i for one am very excited to hear weird mumbling, random atmospherics, dissonant touches and an unnecessary cover of "Crimson and Clover". nod


Right? Let's hear it for dissonance! woot!
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Reply #6 posted 03/20/09 9:09am

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Here R a few reasons not 2 worry about this review:

A) He doesn't like 'The Rainbow Children'.
B) He doesn't like "Crimson & Clover".
C) He's likening "There'll Never B Another Like Me" and "Chocolate Box" 2 'Controversy' (album).
[Edited 3/20/09 9:09am]
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #7 posted 03/20/09 9:09am

jgreco7

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This dope should go back to reading comic books and listening to MJ mad
got Prince?
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Reply #8 posted 03/20/09 9:10am

purplecam

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Genesia said:

It's one person's opinion.

Exactly.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #9 posted 03/20/09 9:11am

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Graycap23 said:

I thought I Hate U was in the top 10?

It debuted at #12 on the pop charts and went no further than that in 1995. Sad but true.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #10 posted 03/20/09 9:11am

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Anxiety said:

i for one am very excited to hear weird mumbling, random atmospherics, dissonant touches and an unnecessary cover of "Crimson and Clover". nod


I was thinking the same thing!
I like weird mumbling and dissonance.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #11 posted 03/20/09 9:11am

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Anxiety said:

i for one am very excited to hear weird mumbling, random atmospherics, dissonant touches and an unnecessary cover of "Crimson and Clover". nod

Me too. I actually like the self-indulgent, atmospheric type stuff, something that the last few albums haven't had much of.
[Edited 3/20/09 9:13am]
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Reply #12 posted 03/20/09 9:12am

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ah, posted 4 minutes after i did the same thing. lol.

i'm still excited about it. the reviewer sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder. he could have mentioned how 3121 was no. 1 when that was released ...
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Reply #13 posted 03/20/09 9:12am

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I will make my own mind up.
I'm hot and I don't care who knows it...I got a job to do. cooked
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Reply #14 posted 03/20/09 9:13am

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purplecam said:

Genesia said:

It's one person's opinion.

Exactly.


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Reply #15 posted 03/20/09 9:13am

Anxiety

purplecam said:

Graycap23 said:

I thought I Hate U was in the top 10?

It debuted at #12 on the pop charts and went no further than that in 1995. Sad but true.


#12 isn't bad for the symbol years.
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Reply #16 posted 03/20/09 9:14am

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Giovanni777 said:

Here R a few reasons not 2 worry about this review:

A) He doesn't like 'The Rainbow Children'.
B) He doesn't like "Crimson & Clover".
C) He's likening "There'll Never B Another Like Me" and "Chocolate Box" 2 'Controversy' (album).
[Edited 3/20/09 9:09am]


lol

Absolutely
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Reply #17 posted 03/20/09 9:14am

Graycap23

purplecam said:

Graycap23 said:

I thought I Hate U was in the top 10?

It debuted at #12 on the pop charts and went no further than that in 1995. Sad but true.

Kool. My memory is going the way of the Edsel.
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Reply #18 posted 03/20/09 9:15am

Anxiety

totheteeth said:

ah, posted 4 minutes after i did the same thing. lol.

i'm still excited about it. the reviewer sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder. he could have mentioned how 3121 was no. 1 when that was released ...


actually, you posted your thread four minutes AFTER this one was posted. e for effort though .nod
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Reply #19 posted 03/20/09 9:15am

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Good thing opinions r like assholes, everyone has one. sad
Entertainment writer Josh L. Dickey can take this interview and ram it up his own asshole lol
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Reply #20 posted 03/20/09 9:15am

mooseriderrik

When we read this review it's normal that we attack the personae of the reviewer.
On the other hand, even the most diehard fans might fear there's some truth in the text.
Let's hope for the best, and fear the worst.
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Reply #21 posted 03/20/09 9:16am

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Anxiety said:

i for one am very excited to hear weird mumbling, random atmospherics, dissonant touches and an unnecessary cover of "Crimson and Clover". nod

highfive
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Reply #22 posted 03/20/09 9:16am

NeptuneHQ

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I fear that this guy is right.
There is too much snow in Hollywood!
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Reply #23 posted 03/20/09 9:17am

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Giovanni777 said:

Here R a few reasons not 2 worry about this review:

A) He doesn't like 'The Rainbow Children'.
B) He doesn't like "Crimson & Clover".
C) He's likening "There'll Never B Another Like Me" and "Chocolate Box" 2 'Controversy' (album).
[Edited 3/20/09 9:09am]


he lost all credibility at the rainbow children dislike...never mind the rest of your points.

when he was criticising lotus, that sounded more like positives then negatives!

only WE can review the set fairly. critics have no idea about music...they cant do it, so they choose to criticise others who can.

whats more, ive liked all of what ive heard from elixer so far so, already i don't think i will agree at all with this.

A BETTER NEWS FLASH: those who loved the rainbow children are going to absolutely love this! but, we got extra too. yep, still think this will be his best since The rainbow children (dont forget, that album was poorly reviewed)
[Edited 3/20/09 9:27am]
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Reply #24 posted 03/20/09 9:20am

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newsflash, people.
this is what most people will think about the new album.
and where did the reviewer say he didn't like TRC?
he mentioned that people who UNDERSTOOD the ramblings on that album might be able to translate the ramblings in THIS ONE.

but this isn't reality. it's the Org.
and the purple sheep will lap up Prince's garbage and pretend it's the finest wine in the history of mankind.

I for one, am not expecting much from the new release.
he's released mostly garbage for at least 10 years or so, not counting TRC.
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Reply #25 posted 03/20/09 9:21am

Anxiety

mooseriderrik said:

When we read this review it's normal that we attack the personae of the reviewer.
On the other hand, even the most diehard fans might fear there's some truth in the text.
Let's hope for the best, and fear the worst.


exactly. these are the reflections of an "average joe" listener of music. he's not fammy mcfammkins, and he's not a self-professed hater of all things prince.

while he might be missing out on details that would make fans go ga-ga, at the same time it's kinda refreshing to see comments of the album by someone who hasn't memorized every page of "the vault" and who hasn't seen graffiti bridge 100 times. dead

that said, i'm not gonna let this review dampen my excitement of hearing the music with my own ears on tuesday.
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Reply #26 posted 03/20/09 9:22am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

newsflash, people.
this is what most people will think about the new album.
and where did the reviewer say he didn't like TRC?
he mentioned that people who UNDERSTOOD the ramblings on that album might be able to translate the ramblings in THIS ONE.

but this isn't reality. it's the Org.
and the purple sheep will lap up Prince's garbage and pretend it's the finest wine in the history of mankind.

I for one, am not expecting much from the new release.
he's released mostly garbage for at least 10 years or so, not counting TRC.


Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
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Reply #27 posted 03/20/09 9:23am

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Anxiety said:

purplecam said:


It debuted at #12 on the pop charts and went no further than that in 1995. Sad but true.


#12 isn't bad for the symbol years.

No it wasn't. It's just a damn shame that there wasn't anymore hits from that era or even after that. That's for another thread I guess. sad
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #28 posted 03/20/09 9:23am

Vinniecent

Well I understood the music of the rainbow children, don't care about the lyrics, if it's going to be like trc, i'll be very happy music
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Reply #29 posted 03/20/09 9:24am

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pennylover said:

Good thing opinions r like assholes, everyone has one. sad
Entertainment writer Josh L. Dickey can take this interview and ram it up his own asshole lol

Ouch! Make sure it has no lube on it for dramatic effect! lol
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