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Reply #60 posted 03/20/09 9:40am

Sdldawn

GustavoRibas said:

Sdldawn said:



well i hope it isn't drenched with hidden messages to convert me.. other than that.. i say bring it on


- It probably will. But I never cared too much about Prince´s lyrics anyway (maybe because english is not my native language). I am really wanting a solid album with live-band feeling and some psychedelia. Planet Earth had that live-band feeling, but it was a weak album IMO. I loved what I heard so far.


agreed. Planet earth was a horrible mess of an album.. lacked a great deal.

The few songs i've heard from this, i think he is on a more suitable path for my tastes. I can't guarantee i'll enjoy this for forever, but it would be very hard to get any worse than planet earth.
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Reply #61 posted 03/20/09 9:41am

GustavoRibas

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ButterscotchPimp said:


i had just about given up on Prince right before TRC. and that album brought me all the way back. i mean listening to that record and then getting ONA box set was like the glory days all over again. and then he released Musiclogy and it's been a steady decline right back to me just about giving up on the man completely all over again.


- Same here.
I think I will never ´give up´ on Prince, because he is still my fave artist. But on the Kirky J-era I was really not caring about and seriously considering not buying his next album. But TRC was so refreshing. I never forget the night I heard it with lights turned off through earphone. I was fascinated with the musicianship of the album. It took some time for me to sleep after listening to it.
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Reply #62 posted 03/20/09 9:41am

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TwiliteKid said:

ButterscotchPimp said:




LOL been here WAY before you.
will be here until they shut the doors.

and doing what i've always done. wink


Ha! I highly doubt that dude. I may not have posted much until recently, but I've been around since the days of PPML.


i stand corrected.
you joined the day before i did.
so you have one day's seniority.
i bow down.
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Reply #63 posted 03/20/09 9:42am

tainacher

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purplecam said:


It debuted at #12 on the pop charts and went no further than that in 1995. Sad but true.


#12 isn't bad for the symbol years.


And way better than any other single he released since then.
wink

Sure, we need to hear the collection to decide, if this review is right or wrong. I am a prince fan for a long time, but this review reflects a lot of the things i feel often, if I hear a new prince record since "Gold": there are a few really cool tracks on its latest albums, but some of the tracks lacks quality.

And his statement about the Bria Valente album describes exactly what I thought about the prevoiulsy previewed two tracks of this album.
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Reply #64 posted 03/20/09 9:43am

Anxiety

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TwiliteKid said:



Ha! I highly doubt that dude. I may not have posted much until recently, but I've been around since the days of PPML.


i stand corrected.
you joined the day before i did.
so you have one day's seniority.
i bow down.


seriously, guys. chill out. if you really need to figure out whose is bigger, take it to orgnotes and whip 'em out in private.
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Reply #65 posted 03/20/09 9:43am

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Sdldawn said:

GustavoRibas said:



- It probably will. But I never cared too much about Prince´s lyrics anyway (maybe because english is not my native language). I am really wanting a solid album with live-band feeling and some psychedelia. Planet Earth had that live-band feeling, but it was a weak album IMO. I loved what I heard so far.


agreed. Planet earth was a horrible mess of an album.. lacked a great deal.

The few songs i've heard from this, i think he is on a more suitable path for my tastes. I can't guarantee i'll enjoy this for forever, but it would be very hard to get any worse than planet earth.


I didn't even buy it.
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Reply #66 posted 03/20/09 9:43am

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Anxiety said:

ButterscotchPimp said:



i stand corrected.
you joined the day before i did.
so you have one day's seniority.
i bow down.


seriously, guys. chill out. if you really need to figure out whose is bigger, take it to orgnotes and whip 'em out in private.


i'm done!
http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
y'all gone keep messin' around wit me and turn me back to the old me......
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Reply #67 posted 03/20/09 9:47am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

Anxiety said:



seriously, guys. chill out. if you really need to figure out whose is bigger, take it to orgnotes and whip 'em out in private.


i'm done!



As I am. I don't think either one of us were as heated as you took it though, Anx.

My initial post was simply questioning why he (or anyone) is bothering to stick around if he's so sure he's going to hate these albums. The weather's getting nice these days: Wouldn't a walk in the park be a better use of time?
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Reply #68 posted 03/20/09 9:48am

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pennylover said:

Good thing opinions r like assholes, everyone has one. sad
Entertainment writer Josh L. Dickey can take this interview and ram it up his own asshole lol


truth
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Reply #69 posted 03/20/09 9:49am

kenlacam

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When we read this review it's normal that we attack the personae of the reviewer.
On the other hand, even the most diehard fans might fear there's some truth in the text.
Let's hope for the best, and fear the worst.

Yes, indeed! That is the stance I'm taking with this new release.
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Reply #70 posted 03/20/09 9:50am

Anxiety

TwiliteKid said:

ButterscotchPimp said:



i'm done!



As I am. I don't think either one of us were as heated as you took it though, Anx.

My initial post was simply questioning why he (or anyone) is bothering to stick around if he's so sure he's going to hate these albums. The weather's getting nice these days: Wouldn't a walk in the park be a better use of time?


hmmm. do you have a park nearby too?

i don't know or care if the bickering was heated or air-conditioned. it's off-topic, it's annoying, and it doesn't belong in this thread. period.

final warning.
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Reply #71 posted 03/20/09 9:51am

ButterscotchPi
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GustavoRibas said:

ButterscotchPimp said:


i had just about given up on Prince right before TRC. and that album brought me all the way back. i mean listening to that record and then getting ONA box set was like the glory days all over again. and then he released Musiclogy and it's been a steady decline right back to me just about giving up on the man completely all over again.


- Same here.
I think I will never ´give up´ on Prince, because he is still my fave artist. But on the Kirky J-era I was really not caring about and seriously considering not buying his next album. But TRC was so refreshing. I never forget the night I heard it with lights turned off through earphone. I was fascinated with the musicianship of the album. It took some time for me to sleep after listening to it.
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ugh. Kirky J. just hearing that name made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

i'll always listen and hope for one more surprise. i'm just not expecting one.
yeah, TRC was like heaven. that was an amazing first listen. brought me back to the old days. played it like non-stop for like 3 months.
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Reply #72 posted 03/20/09 9:51am

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Reply #73 posted 03/20/09 9:53am

swanny

Can't understand all the hate for the reviewer. I thought haters were dispised in the Prince fam world?
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Reply #74 posted 03/20/09 9:56am

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FIRST!!! biggrin
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Reply #75 posted 03/20/09 9:56am

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The thing is...The Rainbow Children is the last Prince CD I really got into. I liked Musicology and 3121, but didn't dissect them like TRC and most of his 80s albums. Planet earth sucked imo. So this review for Lotus has me pretty excited.
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Reply #76 posted 03/20/09 9:56am

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WILDLY UNEVEN!!!!! That's how I will describe the best Prince albums. Can't wait!! biggrin

And expect a leak very soon, when copies have been given to the press...
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Reply #77 posted 03/20/09 9:59am

Copycat

Quote:A third CD, entirely sung by new protege Bria Valente, is so lifeless and irrelevant as to hardly merit mention here. Unquote


Does this mean Bria won't be claiming the title of the new Sade or High Priestess of the Quiet Storm in the near future?
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Reply #78 posted 03/20/09 10:02am

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Copycat said:

Quote:A third CD, entirely sung by new protege Bria Valente, is so lifeless and irrelevant as to hardly merit mention here. Unquote


Does this mean Bria won't be claiming the title of the new Sade or High Priestess of the Quiet Storm in the near future?

Oh stop it! lol lol
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #79 posted 03/20/09 10:04am

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Genesia said:

Look...I am not totally in the can on The Rainbow Children, either. I think the reviewer's right in his assessment of it as wildly uneven and a hard slog, at times. There are tracks on it that, when they come up, I can't hit "skip" quick enough.

But...when The Rainbow Children shines, it really shines. As much as I hate some tracks, there are others I love.

And if I'm honest, that's where I've been with pretty much everything since Graffiti Bridge. The last Prince album I loved start to finish was N.E.W.S - and I think most would agree that that is not a "standard" sort of outing for him.

I know by now to take reviews with a grain of salt - and form my own opinion. shrug


IMO this describes every Prince album before and after 1999 through Lovesexy/Black Album

Also..... I too thought that TRC was a jumbled mess

This reviewer is likely spot on just based on the kind of records Prince has always produced from 1978-1982 and 1990 - present

Like he said... just rip the ones you want to hear to your ipod... its pretty much what I expected although I admit I hoped for something I could listen to all the way through.

That being said... I will certainly judge for myself... but its hard for me to ignore what the reviewer says here since it pretty much describes Prince's output over his career
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Reply #80 posted 03/20/09 10:05am

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Man if he thinks the cover of "Crimson and Clover" is unnecessary, can't wait 2 hear what is?
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Reply #81 posted 03/20/09 10:06am

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Glad to hear he thinks it's uneven - I always like when most reviews are like this...it usually means it's a great CD! As someone else pointed out SOTT didn't get great reviews either and it was one of his best!

His rather positive comments about MPLSOUND are encouraging cause based on what I've heard makes me think it won't be that great. I sure hope I'm wrong and that he truly has recaptured the Controversy vibe and sound.

Reviews for these CDs are going to be all over the map which is fine. I just got back from a visit to a Salvador Dali exhibit and I could not help but think of Princes vast body of work - many love it and many hate it but in the end his music and impact will last well beyond our lifetimes. A sign of a true artist.
The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.

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Reply #82 posted 03/20/09 10:09am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

Sdldawn said:



agreed. Planet earth was a horrible mess of an album.. lacked a great deal.

The few songs i've heard from this, i think he is on a more suitable path for my tastes. I can't guarantee i'll enjoy this for forever, but it would be very hard to get any worse than planet earth.


I didn't even buy it.


I have never been so disapointed in a Prince album. 2 songs exactly two that I liked from that thing
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Reply #83 posted 03/20/09 10:10am

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I think bundling Bria's CD with 2 of his own is the only way people would ever hear it. I would never have purchased it, and I don't even want it in my collection. confused At least it's Prince's music in the background.

If the 2 Prince albums are at least as good as Musicology or 3121, I'll be happy. I'm really considering them as 1 album with 2 parts, so I'm sure there'll be something on there I love.
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Reply #84 posted 03/20/09 10:12am

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2020 said:

Glad to hear he thinks it's uneven - I always like when most reviews are like this...it usually means it's a great CD! As someone else pointed out SOTT didn't get great reviews either and it was one of his best!

His rather positive comments about MPLSOUND are encouraging cause based on what I've heard makes me think it won't be that great. I sure hope I'm wrong and that he truly has recaptured the Controversy vibe and sound.

Reviews for these CDs are going to be all over the map which is fine. I just got back from a visit to a Salvador Dali exhibit and I could not help but think of Princes vast body of work - many love it and many hate it but in the end his music and impact will last well beyond our lifetimes. A sign of a true artist.


very few Prince albums aren't uneven Purple Rain, TRC and Lovesexy are three that instantly come to mind as ones that aren't.... uneven is a trait of Prince albums
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Reply #85 posted 03/20/09 10:12am

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Alexandernvrmind said:

ButterscotchPimp said:



I didn't even buy it.


I have never been so disapointed in a Prince album. 2 songs exactly two that I liked from that thing


i listened to a couple of songs from a friend's copy and decided that it would be the first hole in my Prince collection.
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Reply #86 posted 03/20/09 10:13am

emesem

Nothing surprising here. This is exactly what I expected although I even question if I'll like MPLSOUND all that much after the small sample we heard. but I'm still looking forward to finding the 3 or 4 gems that'll take be back to the old days for at least a little while.
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Reply #87 posted 03/20/09 10:16am

tainacher

Se7en said:

I think bundling Bria's CD with 2 of his own is the only way people would ever hear it. I would never have purchased it, and I don't even want it in my collection. confused At least it's Prince's music in the background.

If the 2 Prince albums are at least as good as Musicology or 3121, I'll be happy. I'm really considering them as 1 album with 2 parts, so I'm sure there'll be something on there I love.


I agree with your last words. smile But I wish that only Lotusflow3r and MPLSound would be bundled together.
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Reply #88 posted 03/20/09 10:20am

RodeoSchro

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It debuted at #12 on the pop charts and went no further than that in 1995. Sad but true.

Kool. My memory is going the way of the Edsel.


I guess the reviewer forgot that Prince has won a few Grammys recently, including one for "Call Me" as Best R&B song of the year.

Sales charts mean nothing.
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Reply #89 posted 03/20/09 10:20am

eireboy34

What did we expect??!

Haven't heard the whole thing yet but the review sounds like it's speakin' the truth.....meet y'all back here when we finally get all the tracks!!!
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