This review MAY be spot on, but first i'd like to listen to it myself before jumping to any conclusion.
If I had done that too often, i would have missed many great albums, movies, and books...

I mean, i already like a handful of the Lotusflow3r tracks I've heard ('Crimson' and 'Colonized'). Boom supposedly is a great track, so is Dreamer. That sounds promising enough!

Anxiety said:

Me too!

squirrelgrease said:

I love crimson and clover...

CherrieMoonKisses said:

Don't project YOUR behavior on someone else.

SquirrelMeat said:

Yeah, it's not like Parade was NME's record of the year. Oh wait, IT WAS.

Parade and SOTT were recognized as amazing albums at the time, even in the kiddie pop mags.

But Prince fans will happily make up shit to avoid admitting that there will be a LOT of reviews like this one, and that they themselves agree with most of what this guy wrote. They certainly will when the next Prince album drops, a time at which plenty of fans suddenly remember they never really liked the previous output.

Prince's take on Crimson & Clover is very lame; definitely unnecessary, as the reviewer said. P

BartVanHemelen said:

Get your facts straight goofball - SOTT was not recognized as an amazing album nor was Parade - the reviews were quite similar to the ones we are seeing now

Why dont you and Wall hook up so you can both be miserable people together!

^
Lets add ATWIAD and Lovesexy...
At this point,I think I will embrace "wild and uneven".

2020 said:

Well,far be it from me to speak for Bart here but there´s this glowing Parade review from 12 April 1986, printed in the Melody Maker, that ends with the words : " (...) ...Parade eclipses everything else you´ve heard this year. Seriously, Godlike." .

And then there´s the Sign o the Times review from 4 April 1987 by Ted Mico, also printed in the Melody Maker, where Mico ends his very positive review with the words:" I´d always wondered what God did after his tea-break on the Eight Day.Truly, this man is a genius."
Mind you , these reviews were printed in Britain, not the USA, and it was around this time that Prince became the darling of the critics over here and his special relationship with Europe started.
Lovesexy also received very positive reviews, especially in Germany ( I still have the SPEX review from 1988).
Then again, there were of course also negative reviews but, all in all, those three albums got really good reviews.
I will wait and see what the new material sounds like. I´m not really a fan of Prince doing cover versions on his own albums, those should be released as a bonus track or be part of his live shows but I do like Colonized Mind and even some of the Bria songs, they remind me a little bit of the material he did with Nona Gaye.

Seems the reviewer dislikes everything I love about music.

"Jammy" . . . bring it on.

BartVanHemelen said:

arse!

Both "Crimson and Clover" and "Wall of Berlin" suck, but I'll willing to give the 3-CD set an honest listen.

2020 said:

SOTT was generally regarded as a masterpiece in the UK. Which was seen as the most important market critically at that time. The music journos and mags LOVED it.

KoolEaze said:

I think this is key. The U.S. reception was a lot less enthusiastic. A lot of it had to do with the fact that Prince did NOT tour Parade or Sign o the Times in America, which instead had to rely on the movie--"Under the Cherry Moon" and "Sign o the Times" concert movie.

By the time "Lovesexy" was released many in the critics establishment regarded Prince as lost in his own world and highly self-indulgent.

Of all the new songs that weve been able to hear, I've liked 'Another Boy' best. So this reviewer saying Elixer isn't worth listening to, goes to show that he knows jack s**t!
As for Planet Earth, I really don't understand the negativity around it. I love this album; its better than 3121, Musicology, & dare i say it, The Rainbow Children. Come to think of it, 21 nights was also not that appreciated, & thats an awesome album.
I know, its only my opinion. Well, its the only one that bloody counts. So there!

Darshy said:

Oh you, you sarcastic bugger you

NuPwrSoul said:

Was there not a tour in 1986 - I seem to recall a TV concert from Detroit...

harveya said:

It was only Hit and Run... according to Wikipedia:

# 03/03/1986 - First Avenue - Minneapolis, USA
# 03/04/1986 - Metro - Boston, USA
# 23/05/1986 - Warfield Theatre - San Francisco, USA
# 30/05/1986 - Wiltern Theatre - Los Angeles, USA
# 06/06/1986 - Masonic Temple Auditorium - Detroit, USA
# 07/06/1986 - Cobo Arena - - Detroit, USA
# 10/07/1986 - Freedom Hall - Louisville, USA
# 01/07/1986 - Sheridan Convention Center Holiday - Sheridan, WY, USA
# 03/07/1986 - McNichols Arena - Denver, USA
# 02/08/1986 - Madison Square Garden – New York, USA
# 03/08/1986 - Madison Square Garden – New York, US

Nothing like what he did in Europe.
[Edited 3/21/09 10:06am]

Rorywan said:

Many of ou hazve forgotten that many critics really thought SOTT was average at best. ATWIAD was massacred by many critics as well as Lovesexy.

Regarding Parade, everything I read back then was very positive.
[Edited 3/21/09 11:37am]

BartVanHemelen said:

So you must agree when this entertainment writer (hahaha zero credibility) writes he realizes so many Radiohead tracks suck on his blog?

Notice how he writes 31 tracks.

Hidden track anyone?

Sign O The Times, Parade, Purple Rain, Dirty Mind, 1999, The Black Album all made most music critics year end top 20 albums list.

I cannot think of ANY post 88 albums that have. You may think music critics have bad taste in music, but it isnt that bad. lol
[Edited 3/21/09 12:21pm]

BartVanHemelen said:

The initial American reviews for both albums were good/mixed but not great. Especially Parade, which was sometimes derided as too "experimental" and too "all over the place." Rolling Stone gave both albums mixed reviews that are now replaced with new improved reviews on their website. They even had the nerve to say that P was repeating himself on SOTT. SOTT received the highest ever voted ranking on the prestigious year-end Village Voice poll. To this day, I still can't believe it lost to U2's Joshua Tree for Grammy album of the year (I know- the Grammys don't mean anything, just ask Jimi, JB, Marvin). The paternalistic Bono victory speech still makes me sick ("without soul Prince would be just a song and dance man")

The European press immediately embraced both albums and they always show up on their "greatest ever" lists. Parade still doesn't get the respect it deserves from American rock journalists.

The Joshua Tree is an Amazing album too, but i agree that Sign is better overall, but 87 was a good year for music.

Rolling Stone actually took off several album reviews, no ATWIAD, Parade or D&P at all.

http://www.rollingstone.c...ce/reviews

Interesting review.

As with all Prince albums though, I'll buy it on day one and make up my own mind by giving it a few spins.

for me Rainbow Children was poor. Hope there will be some other stuff too.

Anyway, it's good news that crimson and clover is the poorest from rock part of the set. I dont consider it good either.