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Reply #90 posted 12/20/08 2:22am

EmbattledWarri
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It's bout time he started making music again...
I might actually buy the new album
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #91 posted 12/20/08 2:28am

bobsteezy

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Feelin it! This is right on time for me.
We all want the stuff that's found in our wildest dreams.

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Reply #92 posted 12/20/08 2:32am

eaglebear4839

Lyrically, it is a paradox at best. I can see some of the points he's trying to make, but to me it's too much like someone gave him a picture, told him that's the way it was, and he didn't challenge or question it (by definition, belief - dare I say a colonized mind is trying to tell us about the colonized mind?)

I also couldn't help but to think of a lyric on the song Ever After, from W&L's new album - "faith is for the dying..."
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Reply #93 posted 12/20/08 2:47am

EmbattledWarri
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eaglebear4839 said:

Lyrically, it is a paradox at best. I can see some of the points he's trying to make, but to me it's too much like someone gave him a picture, told him that's the way it was, and he didn't challenge or question it (by definition, belief - dare I say a colonized mind is trying to tell us about the colonized mind?)

I also couldn't help but to think of a lyric on the song Ever After, from W&L's new album - "faith is for the dying..."

Fuck the lyrics...
you hear that guitar?
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #94 posted 12/20/08 3:01am

calldapplwonde
ry83

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Musically it's great, but I must say that some of the lyrics irk me a bit - in particular the evolution slagging. How anyone can not believe in evolution with the amount of evidence that is out there is beyond me.

I'm also not a fan of his slagging of democracy. Sure, it's not perfect, but it's the best political system humans have managed so far.

But hey, I've come to accept that as much as I respect him and his religion, there are some times when I just have to grit my teeth and listen to the next line. It's no biggie. Still a great track otherwise.



Same here. I like the download/upload idea, but some of the verses I can't go with. Others are interesting and alright with me. Still, the song grows into such an amazing wild guitar fest it's amazing. And the chorus is great.
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Reply #95 posted 12/20/08 3:37am

pald1

EmbattledWarrior said:

eaglebear4839 said:

Lyrically, it is a paradox at best. I can see some of the points he's trying to make, but to me it's too much like someone gave him a picture, told him that's the way it was, and he didn't challenge or question it (by definition, belief - dare I say a colonized mind is trying to tell us about the colonized mind?)

I also couldn't help but to think of a lyric on the song Ever After, from W&L's new album - "faith is for the dying..."

Fuck the lyrics...
you hear that guitar?



The guitar is good...but don't get too carried away...he played better 20 years ago...
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Reply #96 posted 12/20/08 4:33am

Dsoul

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The lyrics are repulsive. Listening to an ignorant dark ages fundamentalist here.
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Reply #97 posted 12/20/08 4:57am

babynoz

I love everything about the song. Someone mentioned The War...it's an apt comparison in that it has that same stream of consciousness quality.


Colonized mind is my favorite by far because my favorite thing about Prince besides his groove, is getting to hang out inside his mind. An extremely interesting place. wink
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #98 posted 12/20/08 5:05am

Lovesymbol2

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WaterInYourBath said:

Does anyone know the name of the effect he uses on his voice in this song? It's the distortion heard when he says the lyric "It's always been there," at the beginning. F'ing cool as Heaven man...

No its more of a tremolo pitch changer thing
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Reply #99 posted 12/20/08 5:06am

Lovesymbol2

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WaterInYourBath said:

Does anyone know the name of the effect he uses on his voice in this song? It's the distortion heard when he says the lyric "It's always been there," at the beginning. F'ing cool as Heaven man...


No its more of a tremolo pitch changer thing
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Reply #100 posted 12/20/08 6:40am

viewaskew

It will help me fall asleep at night.
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Reply #101 posted 12/20/08 6:43am

manray10

DAYDREAMER1 said:

I LIKE IT WHEN I FIRST HERD THIS SONG IT JUST GOT TO ME KINDA REMINDED ME OF JIMMY

WHAY R UR THOUGHTS ON THIS SONG?


I agree! It reminds me of Jimi Hendrix's "First Rays Of The New Rising Sun"
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Reply #102 posted 12/20/08 6:45am

Revolution

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Fixed the bolded part of the lyrics...
At least it's what it sounds like to my ears...music

Colonized Mind

Upload
The evolution principle
U see a rock on the shore - And say, "It's always been there"

Download
No responsibility
Do what U want - Nobody cares

Upload
The master race idea
Genetically disposed - 2 rule the world

Download
Future full of isolated
Full of isolated - Boys and girls

Upload
The 2 party system
The lesser of 2 dangers - Illusion of choice

Download
Their form of fascism
Nothing really ever changes - U never had a voice

If U look, U're sure gonna find
Throughout mankind's history
A Colonized Mind

The one in power makes law
Under which the colonized fall
Without God, it's just the blind leading the blind

Upload
A joint venture record deal
It's just another way for the 'man' to steal
While he's sticking U with the bill

Download
A temporary acquisition of fleeting fame and fortune
Nothing to leave in your will

Upload
A child with no father
Download
No respect for authority

Upload
A child with no mother
Download
A hard time showing love

If U look, U're sure gonna find
Throughout mankind's history
A Colonized Mind

The one in power makes law
Under which the colonized fall
Without God, it's just the blind leading the blind
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #103 posted 12/20/08 6:51am

FreeChild

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I dig it.
_______________________________________________
The truth sounds like a memory.
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Reply #104 posted 12/20/08 7:26am

horatio

Here, I Fixed the bolded part of the lyrics...
At least it's what it sounds like to my ears...music

Colonized Mind

Upload
The evolution principle
U see a rock on the shore - And say, "It's always been there"

Download
No responsibility
Do what U want - Nobody cares

Upload
The master race idea
Genetically disposed - 2 rule the world

Download
Future full of isolated
Full of isolated - Boys and girls

Upload
The 2 party system
The lesser of 2 dangers - Illusion of choice

Download
Their form of fascism
Nothing really ever changes - U never had a voice

If U look, U're sure gonna find
Throughout mankind's history
A Colonized Mind

The one in power makes law
Under which the colonized fall
Without God, it's just the blind leading the blind

Upload
A joint venture record deal
It's just another way for the 'man' to steal
While he's sticking U with the bill

Download
A temporary acquisition of fleeting fame and fortune
Nothing to leave in your will

Upload
A child with no father
Download
No respect for authority

Upload
A child with no mother
Download
A hard time showing love

If U look, U're sure gonna find
Throughout mankind's history
A Colonized Mind

The one in power makes law
Under which the colonized fall
Without God, it's just the blind leading the blind


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Reply #105 posted 12/20/08 7:28am

bellanoche

pald1 said:

EmbattledWarrior said:


Fuck the lyrics...
you hear that guitar?



The guitar is good...but don't get too carried away...he played better 20 years ago...


Wow! I get that you are REALLY anti-Prince, but that statement is over the top, at least to me it is. Prince has definitely grown as a guitarist. That is one of the things that really impresses me about him. He continues to grow as a player unlike many veteran artists who I can tell do not put much effort into "playing" anymore. I have seen Prince too many times over the years to say that his guitar playing peaked 20 years ago. For example, I was not that crazy about the song Guitar when I first heard it, but when I saw him play it live in Minneapolis he added an incredible solo - actually two of them. It's cool if you don't dig the new stuff, but let's keep things in perspective.
perfection is a fallacy of the imagination...
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Reply #106 posted 12/20/08 7:31am

Klyph

In the words of that great TV show In Living Color.....HATED IT!!!! (said with a gay snap and a twist! lol )
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Reply #107 posted 12/20/08 8:54am

2elijah

Rockability said:

Shu said:

no one gonna comment on the whitesolated verse


this right:

Upload
The master race idea
Genetically disposed - 2 rule the world

Download
Future full of isolated
Full of isolated - Boys and girls - Prince

Hmmm. well then he should be happy Obama won, no? I'm confused, either you think voting is good because a black guy is in or you quite bitching!! wink


So is that verse in the song the reason why you're really pissed off, because you think that is what it is referencing? lol 'cause your rants sure demonstrate it.




Upload
The master race idea
Genetically disposed - 2 rule the world

Download
Future full of isolated
Full of isolated - Boys and girls


Anyway, in regards to the above verse, I was discussing that verse with others, and some say it sounds more like it is in relation to religion; referencing the human race in general, being the master race ruling the world, but yet full of lost boys and girls isolated from God. At least that's what some of us are getting from that line. But, then again, we could be wrong.

Now this verse:

Upload
The 2 party system
The lesser of 2 dangers - Illusion of choice


Sounds like he is referencing American politics, our party system of Republicans/Democrats, and the past election where the "lesser" of 2 dangers being the "Illusion of choice" (choice referencing Obama);and the "illusion" that some voters had/have of Obama, by referring to him as a "Messiah", a "Saint", a "Miracle worker" , so to speak, when in fact he is not; he is "just a man, a human being": who cannot implement change as President in this country alone. He will need the strength of his faith and God to help him through it. Along with the participation of Americans who are demanding the change.

In my personal opinion, those who actually think Obama could wave a wand and cure the social/political/economic ills of this country alone, need to be aware that if Americans want to see change, then they have to participate as well, and work towards that change. Change of some attitudes would definitely help, and finding other ways to work towards the change they want to see happen in this country. Anyway, that's my take on it.
[Edited 12/20/08 10:47am]
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Reply #108 posted 12/20/08 10:36am

sarkozyiszeman

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pald1 said:

EmbattledWarrior said:


Fuck the lyrics...
you hear that guitar?



The guitar is good...but don't get too carried away...he played better 20 years ago...


eek

hahahahaha

Sorry but it is a joke. He is far better guitar player than he was back then. I have been a guitar player for the last 25 years. I can tell you his game is a lot richer and diverse now.
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Reply #109 posted 12/20/08 10:38am

sarkozyiszeman

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Colonized Mind is stunning. Absolutely beautiful.
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Reply #110 posted 12/20/08 10:57am

pald1

bellanoche said:

pald1 said:




The guitar is good...but don't get too carried away...he played better 20 years ago...


Wow! I get that you are REALLY anti-Prince, but that statement is over the top, at least to me it is. Prince has definitely grown as a guitarist. That is one of the things that really impresses me about him. He continues to grow as a player unlike many veteran artists who I can tell do not put much effort into "playing" anymore. I have seen Prince too many times over the years to say that his guitar playing peaked 20 years ago. For example, I was not that crazy about the song Guitar when I first heard it, but when I saw him play it live in Minneapolis he added an incredible solo - actually two of them. It's cool if you don't dig the new stuff, but let's keep things in perspective.


Perspective is exactly what I'm keeping. You think this is a better guitar than ICNTPOYM or The RIDE? Look, at some point it's all relative but one thing you can't say is that COLONIZED is a progression from those songs...
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Reply #111 posted 12/20/08 11:00am

pald1

sarkozyiszeman said:

Colonized Mind is stunning. Absolutely beautiful.


Wow, easily pleased.
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Reply #112 posted 12/20/08 11:02am

2elijah

Well, the song is no longer available on the 103.1 site. Glad I had a chance to listen to it before it was removed.
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Reply #113 posted 12/20/08 11:28am

2020

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After listening non stop to all these tracks yesterday in the end this one really is the standout track. Great job P!
The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.

Remember there is only one destination and that place is U
All of it. Everything. Is U.
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Reply #114 posted 12/20/08 11:36am

Revolution

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2elijah said:

Rockability said:



this right:

Upload
The master race idea
Genetically disposed - 2 rule the world

Download
Future full of isolated
Full of isolated - Boys and girls - Prince

Hmmm. well then he should be happy Obama won, no? I'm confused, either you think voting is good because a black guy is in or you quite bitching!! wink


So is that verse in the song the reason why you're really pissed off, because you think that is what it is referencing? lol 'cause your rants sure demonstrate it.




Upload
The master race idea
Genetically disposed - 2 rule the world

Download
Future full of isolated
Full of isolated - Boys and girls


Anyway, in regards to the above verse, I was discussing that verse with others, and some say it sounds more like it is in relation to religion; referencing the human race in general, being the master race ruling the world, but yet full of lost boys and girls isolated from God. At least that's what some of us are getting from that line. But, then again, we could be wrong.

Now this verse:

Upload
The 2 party system
The lesser of 2 dangers - Illusion of choice


Sounds like he is referencing American politics, our party system of Republicans/Democrats, and the past election where the "lesser" of 2 dangers being the "Illusion of choice" (choice referencing Obama);and the "illusion" that some voters had/have of Obama, by referring to him as a "Messiah", a "Saint", a "Miracle worker" , so to speak, when in fact he is not; he is "just a man, a human being": who cannot implement change as President in this country alone. He will need the strength of his faith and God to help him through it. Along with the participation of Americans who are demanding the change.

In my personal opinion, those who actually think Obama could wave a wand and cure the social/political/economic ills of this country alone, need to be aware that if Americans want to see change, then they have to participate as well, and work towards that change. Change of some attitudes would definitely help, and finding other ways to work towards the change they want to see happen in this country. Anyway, that's my take on it.
[Edited 12/20/08 10:47am]


He's obviously talking about the Democrat/Republican parties as you suggest...however, I think you dug too deep about the other stuff. He's saying that you don't really have a choice (only an illusion of choice) because really only two candidates are in the race..."the lesser of two dangers" is who you will vote for. If you indeed did have a "choice" for who would run your country, the ballot would include many people.

This may be Prince's most thought provoking song.
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #115 posted 12/20/08 11:48am

Flowers2

2elijah said:

Rockability said:



Hmmm. well then he should be happy Obama won, no? I'm confused, either you think voting is good because a black guy is in or you quite bitching!! wink


So is that verse in the song the reason why you're really pissed off, because you think that is what it is referencing? lol 'cause your rants sure demonstrate it.


you know how it is with folks lol lol
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Reply #116 posted 12/20/08 12:15pm

JOYJOY

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:

Revolution said


This may be Prince's most thought provoking song.


nod

LOVE IT love2 (I could listen to him play this song for the next 20yrs)
One minute they want peace……

Then do everything to make it go away. rolleyes
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Reply #117 posted 12/20/08 12:39pm

2elijah

Revolution said:

2elijah said:



So is that verse in the song the reason why you're really pissed off, because you think that is what it is referencing? lol 'cause your rants sure demonstrate it.




Upload
The master race idea
Genetically disposed - 2 rule the world

Download
Future full of isolated
Full of isolated - Boys and girls


Anyway, in regards to the above verse, I was discussing that verse with others, and some say it sounds more like it is in relation to religion; referencing the human race in general, being the master race ruling the world, but yet full of lost boys and girls isolated from God. At least that's what some of us are getting from that line. But, then again, we could be wrong.

Now this verse:

Upload
The 2 party system
The lesser of 2 dangers - Illusion of choice


Sounds like he is referencing American politics, our party system of Republicans/Democrats, and the past election where the "lesser" of 2 dangers being the "Illusion of choice" (choice referencing Obama);and the "illusion" that some voters had/have of Obama, by referring to him as a "Messiah", a "Saint", a "Miracle worker" , so to speak, when in fact he is not; he is "just a man, a human being": who cannot implement change as President in this country alone. He will need the strength of his faith and God to help him through it. Along with the participation of Americans who are demanding the change.

In my personal opinion, those who actually think Obama could wave a wand and cure the social/political/economic ills of this country alone, need to be aware that if Americans want to see change, then they have to participate as well, and work towards that change. Change of some attitudes would definitely help, and finding other ways to work towards the change they want to see happen in this country. Anyway, that's my take on it.
[Edited 12/20/08 10:47am]


He's obviously talking about the Democrat/Republican parties as you suggest...however, I think you dug too deep about the other stuff. He's saying that you don't really have a choice (only an illusion of choice) because really only two candidates are in the race..."the lesser of two dangers" is who you will vote for. If you indeed did have a "choice" for who would run your country, the ballot would include many people.

This may be Prince's most thought provoking song.


Dug too deep? Not really. A verse in a song could be interpreted 100 ways, such as Shu's and Rockability's interpretation of the verse before that one. We all don't see things the same way. It's like looking at a piece of art an interpreting it as one sees it. But I have to say I agree about the 2 party reference, and I do agree with you that he "may" be stating our choices were an illusion because we were limited to only two candidates, but would he have said the same if there was a third party? Some may have thought even a three-party system wasn't enough. My interpretation of the "illusion of Obama" wasn't really too deep, because many did have the "illusion" of Obama as a Messiah. But I do appreciate your input.

I do agree with you though, that "Colonized Mind" is a thought-provoking song, and may even be controversial to some; with Politics/Social issues/Religion all mixed in.
[Edited 12/20/08 12:52pm]
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Reply #118 posted 12/20/08 12:41pm

veronikka

horatio said:

Here, I Fixed the bolded part of the lyrics...
At least it's what it sounds like to my ears...music

Colonized Mind

Upload
The evolution principle
U see a rock on the shore - And say, "It's always been there"

Download
No responsibility
Do what U want - Nobody cares

Upload
The master race idea
Genetically disposed - 2 rule the world

Download
Future full of isolated
Full of isolated - Boys and girls

Upload
The 2 party system
The lesser of 2 dangers - Illusion of choice

Download
Their form of fascism
Nothing really ever changes - U never had a voice

If U look, U're sure gonna find
Throughout mankind's history
A Colonized Mind

The one in power makes law
Under which the colonized fall
Without God, it's just the blind leading the blind

Upload
A joint venture record deal
It's just another way for the 'man' to steal
While he's sticking U with the bill

Download
A temporary acquisition of fleeting fame and fortune
Nothing to leave in your will

Upload
A child with no father
Download
No respect for authority

Upload
A child with no mother
Download
A hard time showing love

If U look, U're sure gonna find
Throughout mankind's history
A Colonized Mind

The one in power makes law
Under which the colonized fall
Without God, it's just the blind leading the blind


biggrin



you are bad! lol
Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul
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Reply #119 posted 12/20/08 12:47pm

lspear76

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Great song. He's being honest and it's a deeper song than what he's released recently. Gotta admire a guy who can make a groovy, funky song about something so anti-mainstream.
"Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?"
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