P has every right to be a JW. I also have a good friend who's a JW. The difference is that she has the smarts to see that the Bible is RIFE with injustice and bigotry and is also able to look at the context in which it was written and not subscribe to the things in it that are hateful. The Bible shits on gays and women ALL OVER THE PLACE. If we took it all literally, Lord knows where the hell we would be as a society. Remember that the guys who wrote this intended it for a specific audience...one that existed more than 2000 years ago, BEFORE MIDIEVAL TIMES. I believe we've advanced as a human race since then.

That said, there's plenty of good to take from it and I think people should concentrate on that. If you want to continue to subscribe the parts of the Bible that are bigoted, you're welcome to do so but at least acknowledge that you're a bigot and quit pretending it's justified just because some old dudes wrote it down.

purplecam said:

I don't think Prince was misquoted. At the very least, I don't think the reporter was wrong in getting the gist of what Prince said.
I do agree with the other posters on this thread who say Prince is a hypocrite. When he was starting out and critics derided him as a Stevie Wonder ripoff and later music fans called him faggot for strutting on stage in eyeliner, bikini briefs and high heels, it was the outcasts, the freaks, the punks and members of the gay community -- my community -- that embraced him. Those early nelly queers weren't afraid to go "downtown, nowhere bound, everybody in drag" and neither was Prince. And we loved him for it.
Now for him to call us wanting gay marriage wrong is the height of hypocrisy. Marriage implies growth, commitment, maturity; the willingness to pledge yourself to one consenting partner. Isn't that what growth and becoming an adult are all about? If Prince is allowed to mature and stop swearing and singing about frivolous, meaningless one-night stands, why wouldn't he approve of the same for a traditionally promiscuous segment of the population? Because we can't biologically create children together? If children are a condition of marriage, then where the hell are Prince's kids? Maybe if he tried staying with one woman long enough to actually build a family together (instead of trying to control that woman), then he'd be able to enjoy all the benefits of marriage he's so eager to deny us.
I haven't bought a Prince album since "Planet Earth" and that's only because Wendy and Lisa were involved. In typical fashion, he didn't even specify in the liner notes to which tracks they contributed. Needless to say, I'm much more excited about W&L's new LP instead of any future output from Prince. Maybe he'll surprise us and do another male-female duet. Bring on the reunions! Mavis, Angie Stone, Rosie Gaines, Susannah, Cat -- hell, let's drag Sheena Easton out of Las Vegas for a redux! Because Prince's voice has never sounded stronger -- or sweeter -- than when another woman had his back.

benmorell76 said:

tell u a secret

Prince doesnt know what he's talking about from one minute to the next.

he makes it up as he goes along.

he never said everybody in drag, he said narrowminded drag, which makes it clear why we are so up in arms. prince, like all great icons will always have a way of being what each individual wanted him to be. i'm a straight black male, growing up i was focused on getting girls my age naked, prince talked about that so to me he was a venue for me to go there. he also represented rebellion, a way of separating myself from what my older cousins and uncles were calling Funk, this is my funk. Racially i was not into stereotypes so the way he presented himself musically and imagewise appealed to me becuase every other black group at the time was all black and wore shiny shit LOL. Maybe from a gender standpoint he appealed to me and made me feel like although i dont look "hard" and i'm not tall it's OK. I always took it as a badge of honor when someone called me a fag for liking prince, today i consider it being on the right side of history.
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i think he introduced us to a lot as most of us were young when we got into him. But when is it OK to say, it's cool i'm all grown up now i dont need for you to set the standard anymore. I'm perfectly fine with him being who he was when i was young, but i dont need him now. Just like with children we hope to get them to the point where they are independent, frankly i dont need prince to say anything i believe in because i'm all grown up. When i was 14 i needed him to illustrate a place of tolerance like uptown ( i was living in midwestern boredom and racism) so i could find my own.I needed him to make me dance when i was at an age to do so all night. I needed him to aide me in seduction ( he still does) and i needed him to open my mind to those who came before like James, Jimi and Sly. Right now, i dont agree with prop 8 and i'm really dont need Prince for much. All i ask is when i see you live..Bring it, which truthfully he can still do. I dont need him to sing sister or head (thats what itunes is for) or do anything to make me believe he still waves the freak flag ( i got my own now) i just need him to strap on the axe and rip shit. If he can do that i'm willing to ignore the preaching and the putrid studio albums.
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benmorell76 said:

The problem with America right now is people can't hold religious beliefs any more without someone jumping down their throat. The main reason for that is that the religious order has tried to force their ideas down everyone else's throat through religion. Now let's turn out attention to Jehovah's Witnesses. Jehovah's Witnesses do not get involved in politics. They do not force or lobby the government to do anything other than leave them alone and give them the right to practice their religion peacfully. They just pay their taxes and try to obey the Bible. Yes, they do believe in the so-called "bigotted" portions of the Bible; however, they do not teach hatred toward those who do not share their ideas. They believe you can only change if you want to and that Jesus told us to love all people. However, Jesus did not tell us to love all actions. The Bible teaches us to hate those actions that can have potential harmful effects toward society, of which homosexuality is just a needle in a haystack many "religious" people like to pick on. What about love of money, lying, stealing, rebellion against the authorities, violence, abuse, religious hypocrisy and back biting that the bible also tells us to hate? That is more pervasive than homosexuality. Now if Jehovah's Witnesses really hated people would they come to their door? Wouldn't it just be better to let people carry on and then die at Armageddon as the Bible predicts? Jehovah's Witnesses don't hate anyone, but they certainly aren't here to force you to do what you don't want to do. Neither do they believe in moral relativism and in just living a self-determined "good life." They believe the standards in the Bible, when correctly applied, help mankind as a whole to live happier lives.
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tonys said:

Co-sign

You know, Prince could very easily clear it up in his next interview and clearly state wether he's for or against homosexuality. I have a feeling he won't and it won't be surprising because being a Jehovah's Witness he most likely disapproves of it.

Personally I'm all for homosexual rights.

I've been a member on this site for a loooong time and almost never post. I have also been a prince fan for even longer.

To me, this was the final straw with his non-sense. Sueing people, changing his name to get out of a contract while saying it was spiritual, and other craziness.

Gay marraige is an issue that is important to me and I find it hard to support people who come out against it. I believe he said those things otherwise he would have made it clear. I think the idea of him not allowing a tape recorder is a way to refute anything he said the public did not like and say "it was paraphrasing."

I call bullshit and do not intend to buy his material any longer. Just listening to his music makes me mad.

Krstofer said:

Well, it seems you want everyone to embrace and accept homosexuality. That's not going to happen. California voted down gay marriage. This should tell you that the majority of people find the idea of two men or women in marriage strange at the least. These people also find the idea of marriage to be a sacred institution. There is NOTHING wrong with that. Marriage should mean something, and it should be definable. There should be boundaries.

I don't hate any gay people. But I do feel that marriage is meant for one man and one woman. Anything else is not marriage, it is something else. That's the way I feel about it, that's the way many people feel about it. It's not about wanting to take rights away from anyone gay, it's about preserving something that people identify with, participate in, and do not want have the specific values of wavered or tarnished.

hollywooddove said:

true. its a matter of concept. but 99% of the people are so blind they cant even see where "marriage" comes from and what it means.

a dog can have same rights as a cat BUT the right to be a feline.

I doubt that he was misquoted to that extent.


and if he was, serves him right for acting like a douche-bag yet again, and expecting to place silly limitations on the interveiewer and still get stellar results from the interview.

Prince really is a douche-bag sometimes.

but yeah, I doubt he was misquoted. I mean, if it means so much to him then he should just issue a statement about how he really feels about the issue. Hell, he's been pretty explicit about the record contract thing that got his panties in a wad in the 90s.

douche-bag.

Imago said:

we dont call any names to the people that think opposite to us.

u guys are too violent...just respect other peoples opinion!

hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:

Oh fuck Prince!

Imago said:

u wish

hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:

There's no reason why I would want to flip a 50 something year old tranny over and have my way with him.

But being said, I think its silly that we sholdn't be allowed to call him whatever we want. I mean, when the entire Crystal Ball fiasco blew up, he had a prime opportunity to apologize to fans who waited months, got double charged and all manner of things. Instead, he released a monthly email calling people who had LEGITIMATE complaints "haters". Wow, true professionalism there.


that douche-bag