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Reply #120 posted 11/18/08 5:30pm

union119

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prince shouldn't have said what he said about gay people. and soup.


hey watch it.

i'm anti-soup.

all soup-drinkers are going straight to hell.

nuff said.

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Reply #121 posted 11/18/08 5:33pm

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Sorry, Perez - The New Yorker Stands By Its Prince Story
By Eliot Van Buskirk November 18, 2008 | 12:09:12 PMCategories: People

A recent New Yorker article paints a short, complicated picture of the artist currently known as Prince in which the star -- a noted practitioner of the Jehovah's Witness religion -- responds to questions about social issues.

A PerezHilton source says the New Yorker misquoted Prince regarding gay marriage and other issues. The New Yorker maintains that its story is accurate.

"You've got the Republicans, and basically they want to live according to [the Bible]," says Prince in the article. "But there's the problem of interpretation, and you've got some churches, some people, basically doing things and saying it comes from here, but it doesn't. And then on the opposite end of the spectrum you've got blue, you've got the Democrats, and they're, like, 'You can do whatever you want.' Gay marriage, whatever. But neither of them is right...

"God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever, and he just cleared it all out. He was, like, 'Enough.'"

At the other end of the literary spectrum is PerezHilton. The publication claims an outraged source within Prince's camp accuses the New Yorker of misquoting Prince. The source also apparently claims that the New Yorker's reporter, Claire Hoffman, did not record the interview, which could make it hard to unravel what really happened.

"Contrary to what a recent interview with the New Yorker is reporting, a source close to the rocker tells us that Prince was grossly misquoted and misinterpreted as not down with gay rightsm," reads a post on the site. "Apparently, the interviewer did not even use a recorder... What His Purpleness actually did was gesture to the Bible and said he follows what it teaches, referring mainly to the parts about loving everyone and refraining from judgment. 'We're very angry he was misquoted,' says our Prince insider."

However, the New Yorker stands by its story, as a spokeswoman confirmed to Wired.com on Tuesday morning. It sounds like this Prince insider may have been doing some damage control for his client, whose views may come as a surprise to some of his fans.

http://blog.wired.com/mus...z---n.html
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Reply #122 posted 11/18/08 5:43pm

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This entire conversation is kind of funny. Prince simply said what is in the Bible, he didn't write it. The Bible does most definately speak against Homosexuality. Don't hate me either, I didn't write it. I am not getting in to the debate about who wrote the Bible and why. You guys can beat that horse without me.

There are people out there who believe that God created man, and also a moral code, Not only the dumb and the desperate. To the contrary, don't believe the hype, there are some very smart people who believe this, just like there are very smart people who don't. You do not categorize a person's iq based on their spiritual faith. They are not looking for religion... so to speak, they are seeking a connection with God.

So, if a person believes the Bible to be true, or the Koran, or whatever, and that these codes of moral law are handed down from the creater of the universe and the owner of our very souls, then yes they feel an obligation to follow those laws and speak for them.

I never trash a person based on their faith. Some of the most powerful people on this Earth are people of an unshakable faith. Don't think so? Look around.

And also, throwing the word hypocrite around is like the bark of a hit dog. Prince is not the same man he was. This does not make him a hypocrite. It simply means he has grown. Also, to not be perfect does make one a hypocrite either. It only means we are all in the same boat.... the only difference is some people believe the difference in good and bad, holy and evil, is only a matter of our own perceptions. Others believe these differences are hard coded by God, and are not up for re-evaluations. So while all people will be imperfect, some will strive to be good based only on how they define good and evil, while others will strive based on how they believe God has defined good and evil.

So if Prince wants to believe in the Bible, that is his right.

Republicans? I don't know when the Republicans and the Bible became such tight partners, it's all about the votes the Republicans want. In the fifties, the Democrats were tight with the Bible. That's why most of the old timers are Democrats.

Ah... I've said too much.
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Reply #123 posted 11/18/08 5:44pm

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incredibleD said:

Sorry, Perez - The New Yorker Stands By Its Prince Story
By Eliot Van Buskirk November 18, 2008 | 12:09:12 PMCategories: People

A recent New Yorker article paints a short, complicated picture of the artist currently known as Prince in which the star -- a noted practitioner of the Jehovah's Witness religion -- responds to questions about social issues.

A PerezHilton source says the New Yorker misquoted Prince regarding gay marriage and other issues. The New Yorker maintains that its story is accurate.

"You've got the Republicans, and basically they want to live according to [the Bible]," says Prince in the article. "But there's the problem of interpretation, and you've got some churches, some people, basically doing things and saying it comes from here, but it doesn't. And then on the opposite end of the spectrum you've got blue, you've got the Democrats, and they're, like, 'You can do whatever you want.' Gay marriage, whatever. But neither of them is right...

"God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever, and he just cleared it all out. He was, like, 'Enough.'"

At the other end of the literary spectrum is PerezHilton. The publication claims an outraged source within Prince's camp accuses the New Yorker of misquoting Prince. The source also apparently claims that the New Yorker's reporter, Claire Hoffman, did not record the interview, which could make it hard to unravel what really happened.

"Contrary to what a recent interview with the New Yorker is reporting, a source close to the rocker tells us that Prince was grossly misquoted and misinterpreted as not down with gay rightsm," reads a post on the site. "Apparently, the interviewer did not even use a recorder... What His Purpleness actually did was gesture to the Bible and said he follows what it teaches, referring mainly to the parts about loving everyone and refraining from judgment. 'We're very angry he was misquoted,' says our Prince insider."

However, the New Yorker stands by its story, as a spokeswoman confirmed to Wired.com on Tuesday morning. It sounds like this Prince insider may have been doing some damage control for his client, whose views may come as a surprise to some of his fans.

http://blog.wired.com/mus...z---n.html


Of course. On the one hand, you've got a veteran, respected journalist writing for an incredibly reputable and venerated magazine. (And one of the best fact-checking departments in the entire industry.) On the other, you've got a celebrity with a history of homophobia who tried to retract his statements without actually retracting them. You can't say you were misquoted without explaining what you actually said.
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Reply #124 posted 11/18/08 5:46pm

union119

Efan said:

On the one hand, you've got a veteran, respected journalist writing for an incredibly reputable and venerated magazine. (And one of the best fact-checking departments in the entire industry.) On the other, you've got a celebrity with a history of homophobia who tried to retract his statements without actually retracting them. You can't say you were misquoted without explaining what you actually said.


thumbs up!
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Reply #125 posted 11/18/08 6:03pm

Anxiety

Efan said:

incredibleD said:

Sorry, Perez - The New Yorker Stands By Its Prince Story
By Eliot Van Buskirk November 18, 2008 | 12:09:12 PMCategories: People

A recent New Yorker article paints a short, complicated picture of the artist currently known as Prince in which the star -- a noted practitioner of the Jehovah's Witness religion -- responds to questions about social issues.

A PerezHilton source says the New Yorker misquoted Prince regarding gay marriage and other issues. The New Yorker maintains that its story is accurate.

"You've got the Republicans, and basically they want to live according to [the Bible]," says Prince in the article. "But there's the problem of interpretation, and you've got some churches, some people, basically doing things and saying it comes from here, but it doesn't. And then on the opposite end of the spectrum you've got blue, you've got the Democrats, and they're, like, 'You can do whatever you want.' Gay marriage, whatever. But neither of them is right...

"God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever, and he just cleared it all out. He was, like, 'Enough.'"

At the other end of the literary spectrum is PerezHilton. The publication claims an outraged source within Prince's camp accuses the New Yorker of misquoting Prince. The source also apparently claims that the New Yorker's reporter, Claire Hoffman, did not record the interview, which could make it hard to unravel what really happened.

"Contrary to what a recent interview with the New Yorker is reporting, a source close to the rocker tells us that Prince was grossly misquoted and misinterpreted as not down with gay rightsm," reads a post on the site. "Apparently, the interviewer did not even use a recorder... What His Purpleness actually did was gesture to the Bible and said he follows what it teaches, referring mainly to the parts about loving everyone and refraining from judgment. 'We're very angry he was misquoted,' says our Prince insider."

However, the New Yorker stands by its story, as a spokeswoman confirmed to Wired.com on Tuesday morning. It sounds like this Prince insider may have been doing some damage control for his client, whose views may come as a surprise to some of his fans.

http://blog.wired.com/mus...z---n.html


Of course. On the one hand, you've got a veteran, respected journalist writing for an incredibly reputable and venerated magazine. (And one of the best fact-checking departments in the entire industry.) On the other, you've got a celebrity with a history of homophobia who tried to retract his statements without actually retracting them. You can't say you were misquoted without explaining what you actually said.


he claims he didn't say anything but just pointed at a bible, right? so i guess in a manner of speaking his "insider" attempted to explain what prince actually said, or what he gestured in lieu of speech. or something. nuts
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Reply #126 posted 11/18/08 6:07pm

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my laugh for the day...good one! falloff falloff falloff
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Reply #127 posted 11/18/08 6:15pm

colorblu

union119 said:

Efan said:

On the one hand, you've got a veteran, respected journalist writing for an incredibly reputable and venerated magazine. (And one of the best fact-checking departments in the entire industry.) On the other, you've got a celebrity with a history of homophobia who tried to retract his statements without actually retracting them. You can't say you were misquoted without explaining what you actually said.


thumbs up!


Whatever, haven't we as fans put Prince on a pedestal? Should we mock and tear down what we've created or maybe take some personal responsibility? We are all sinners, who shall cast the first stone question
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Reply #128 posted 11/18/08 6:23pm

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colorblu said:

union119 said:



thumbs up!


Whatever, haven't we as fans put Prince on a pedestal? Should we mock and tear down what we've created or maybe take some personal responsibility? We are all sinners, who shall cast the first stone question


I don't understand your response at all. I haven't put Prince on a pedestal and I didn't mock. We're talking about a magazine interview and Prince's statement that he was misquoted.
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Reply #129 posted 11/18/08 6:30pm

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I find it hard to believe that a Man who wears more make up than most Woman would have a problem with Gays. But if he does, WOW what a Hypocrite. Also Prince usually says and does whatever he wants, but never issued any kind of correction. Maybe he didn't say this stuff. I'm gay but it doesn't really bother me as long as it doesn't show up in his lyrics. Then I might stop listening
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Reply #130 posted 11/18/08 6:33pm

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Anxiety said:

Efan said:



Of course. On the one hand, you've got a veteran, respected journalist writing for an incredibly reputable and venerated magazine. (And one of the best fact-checking departments in the entire industry.) On the other, you've got a celebrity with a history of homophobia who tried to retract his statements without actually retracting them. You can't say you were misquoted without explaining what you actually said.


he claims he didn't say anything but just pointed at a bible, right? so i guess in a manner of speaking his "insider" attempted to explain what prince actually said, or what he gestured in lieu of speech. or something. nuts


Yeah, I know. But it's not as if he really cleared anything up. I mean, we're all still debating what he said or didn't say. Then again, I guess that's normal. biggrin
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Reply #131 posted 11/18/08 6:38pm

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Prince/Palin 2012 woot!
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Reply #132 posted 11/18/08 6:40pm

colorblu

Efan said:

colorblu said:



Whatever, haven't we as fans put Prince on a pedestal? Should we mock and tear down what we've created or maybe take some personal responsibility? We are all sinners, who shall cast the first stone question


I don't understand your response at all. I haven't put Prince on a pedestal and I didn't mock. We're talking about a magazine interview and Prince's statement that he was misquoted.
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Okay let me try to explain how I see it. We Love Prince and his music. We are the best of fans. But when or if Prince does something that might need some explaining, everyone seems to come out with some sort of demand or desire for Prince to be who we want him to be.
It has to be a difficult place to be. He wants to please God but he also wants to please the fans who have taken him to the place he is. Kind of like damned if U do, damned if U don't kind of thing.
Everyone is searching for something but why do so many want to put it all on the back of Prince? He's only a man trying to do the best he can, like a lot of the rest of us. I guess I'm just saying why don't we give it a rest? Live and let live!
Prince deserves to be happy, look at what he's given to all of us. That's all heart
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Reply #133 posted 11/18/08 6:49pm

Anxiety

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Prince/Palin 2012 woot!


i was thinking yesterday, oh lord, next thing we're gonna be reading about sarah palin's debut album produced by prince....i can just see him shaking his head and making that ouch face and saying "she's fonky....i mean, she's FONKY...!" disbelief
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Reply #134 posted 11/18/08 6:50pm

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babynoz said:

Prince/Palin 2012 woot!


falloff
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #135 posted 11/18/08 6:52pm

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Anxiety said:

babynoz said:

Prince/Palin 2012 woot!


i was thinking yesterday, oh lord, next thing we're gonna be reading about sarah palin's debut album produced by prince....i can just see him shaking his head and making that ouch face and saying "she's fonky....i mean, she's FONKY...!" disbelief


And they could make a music video together. Prince could wear that silly outfit that he wore in the "Rock and Roll Is Alive and Lives In Minneapolis" video. lol
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #136 posted 11/18/08 7:02pm

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And they could make a music video together. Prince could wear that silly outfit that he wore in the "Rock and Roll Is Alive and Lives In Minneapolis" video. lol


She may be a bit old but ya gotta admit she's got the looks and brains of a Prince-girl. lol
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Reply #137 posted 11/18/08 7:04pm

Anxiety

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vainandy said:



And they could make a music video together. Prince could wear that silly outfit that he wore in the "Rock and Roll Is Alive and Lives In Minneapolis" video. lol


She may be a bit old but ya gotta admit she's got the looks and brains of a Prince-girl. lol


i would totally buy a prince-produced sarah palin cover of "go go dancer" or "everybody get on up".

there. i said it. neutral


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Reply #138 posted 11/18/08 7:21pm

babynoz

Anxiety said:

babynoz said:



She may be a bit old but ya gotta admit she's got the looks and brains of a Prince-girl. lol


i would totally buy a prince-produced sarah palin cover of "go go dancer" or "everybody get on up".

there. i said it. neutral


redface


She could be the lead singer of his new girl group. Their first single could be "Moose Shooter". falloff
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Reply #139 posted 11/18/08 7:23pm

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babynoz said:

Anxiety said:



i would totally buy a prince-produced sarah palin cover of "go go dancer" or "everybody get on up".

there. i said it. neutral


redface


She could be the lead singer of his new girl group. Their first single could be "Moose Shooter". falloff


falloff falloff falloff
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Reply #140 posted 11/18/08 7:26pm

Anxiety

babynoz said:

Anxiety said:



i would totally buy a prince-produced sarah palin cover of "go go dancer" or "everybody get on up".

there. i said it. neutral


redface


She could be the lead singer of his new girl group. Their first single could be "Moose Shooter". falloff



lol
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Reply #141 posted 11/18/08 7:29pm

suomynona

Anxiety said:

babynoz said:

Prince/Palin 2012 woot!

i was thinking yesterday, oh lord, next thing we're gonna be reading about sarah palin's debut album produced by prince....i can just see him shaking his head and making that ouch face and saying "she's fonky....i mean, she's FONKY...!" disbelief

The first single would be "Betcha eye" (Her cover of the Chaka Khan/Prince track.)
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Reply #142 posted 11/18/08 8:19pm

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Whatever happened to Freedom of Speech? Everyone loves to acknowledge their right to excercise free speech, but it is not really Free.
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Reply #143 posted 11/18/08 8:22pm

Anxiety

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Whatever happened to Freedom of Speech? Everyone loves to acknowledge their right to excercise free speech, but it is not really Free.


speech may be free, but free speech does not mean that you are free from accountability for what you speak. ya know?
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Reply #144 posted 11/18/08 8:23pm

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Anxiety said:



The gay community has been a big part of Prince's fan base, and probably about half of the country believes he's gay himself... I can't really believe he was dumb enough to make these types of comments....



Women are a bigger part of Prince's fan base.
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Reply #145 posted 11/18/08 8:27pm

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If this dude will not allow recorders, he can't expect people to believe that he was misquoted. Whatever dude.... just shut up and play....
I liked him better when he wasn't granting interviews.
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Reply #146 posted 11/18/08 8:28pm

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Anxiety said:

pplrain said:

Whatever happened to Freedom of Speech? Everyone loves to acknowledge their right to excercise free speech, but it is not really Free.


speech may be free, but free speech does not mean that you are free from accountability for what you speak. ya know?


I don't understand what the big deal is. Not everyone accepts a gay lifestyle. It is not really the norm. So if he comes out and says he does not accept it, what is the big deal? He has a right to say what he wants. He does not have to accept it if he does not want to.

He is studying the Bible... so of course it is going to influence his way of thinking.
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Reply #147 posted 11/18/08 8:38pm

Anxiety

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If this dude will not allow recorders, he can't expect people to believe that he was misquoted. Whatever dude.... just shut up and play....
I liked him better when he wasn't granting interviews.


after all these years, i can't believe this is the first time he's been so grossly misquoted by the many reporters who have not been permitted to use a tape recorder for interviews with prince. confused
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Reply #148 posted 11/18/08 8:41pm

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The Bible!, he's still freakin quoting the freakin Matrix movie!

With a straight face taking about Neo & Morpheous, lol,

Poor JW's, poor poor inocent JW's what did you do to deserve Prince.
I can hear them now "how do we get rid of this guy?, he's bad for bussiness!"
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Reply #149 posted 11/18/08 8:48pm

union119

Prince's publicly convenient association with the Bible keeps people looking in the other direction

while he salivates over money and lusts for women.

come on people.

someone who is serious about their religion doesn't fly in the face of it with outlandish contradictions in their own lifestyle.

for arguments sake: Jesus Christ said "Love your enemies"

where do lawyers and legal threats fit into that?

just sayin shrug

as far as being misquoted:

bullshit lol

he screwed up and won't take responsibility for what he said

as usual he blames it on someone else like a reporter without a tape-recorder

and even if he was misquoted

dont blame the reporter.

take responsibility for allowing that kind of slip up.

Prince's blame games are as old as the hills

and definitely not becoming of a professional 50 year-old man.

he fails to admit or apologize for his mistakes.

he's always been that way.

and my official response to the 'Pretend you are proposing to Prince' thread

(which i won't dignify by posting it in the actual thread)

is:

no. why would i propose to a coward?

y'all can hit me now.

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