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Prince stole Purple Rain from "Faithfully" by Journey The [Edited 5/26/08 21:23pm] | |
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Personally, I can't hear PR in this song. But I read somewhere he stole it from Bob Seger. [Edited 3/18/08 13:07pm] | |
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well, same thing goes on in art... everything is influenced by everything else...unless one admits to stealing from another... [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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This was talked about on Howard Stern a few months back. Apparently it was accidental, he paid Journey some money, and everyone was happy. | |
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Boy, I don't know how you all can tell. | |
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Efan said: This was talked about on Howard Stern a few months back. Apparently it was accidental, he paid Journey some money, and everyone was happy.
Lies | |
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But who got the most out of it? Never heard it until now. | |
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ok..... I know both songs, but I just cannot see the connection. 
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moderatorthere is no relation to PR the chord work is not even close ... they do sell Q TIPS at ur local pharmacy | |
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RipPoPtheregoMYTOP said: there is no relation to PR the chord work is not even close ... they do sell Q TIPS at ur local pharmacy
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I personally do not hear a resemblance as well, but I do remember reading an article that Prince sent Journey a letter of apology. I did not hear, however, that he payed Journey any money. I will try to find that article. | |
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ok listen to the intro of the journey song
it's not BANG on so if you're all waiting to hear the exact progression, you're not going to hear it it's just very similar and a few tones down...  [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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Oh please.. I have both songs, they arent even close?  .. and I have Sirius Radio, Howard didnt bring that up. I heard ALL the talk about Led Zeppelin stealing songs. They brought up a bunch of other artist, Prince wasnt one of them! I listen to the show everyday and they replay every episode everyday all day.
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You really are gunna take what Stern says seriously???
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Jeez, people are sensitive about this. It was indeed talked about on the Stern show, and I'm not the only person who heard it. Check out Reply #13 from blackguitaristz in here: http://prince.org/msg/8/262793 | |
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xxjamiestarrxx said: The chord progression in "Purple Rain" sounds identical to "Faithfully",by Journey.For all you musicians out there,go take a listen.Even the guitar solo is the same.It's just in a different key.
I point this out because of all of the people who are saying that Alicia Keys copied "Purple Rain". THEY ALL DO IT!! Have you heard of a 10 year old singer/musician named Gabi Wilson? google her name.She is being compared to Prince and Alicia. ----- I just do not hear it. If you wanted to say he was influenced by Journey I can understand but the songs just do not sound alike. Alicia has ripped off everyone from the minute she came out. | |
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Efan said: Jeez, people are sensitive about this. It was indeed talked about on the Stern show, and I'm not the only person who heard it. Check out Reply #13 from blackguitaristz in here: http://prince.org/msg/8/262793
---- We are all aware of the thread but no one takes Stern seriously. | |
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laurarichardson said: We are all aware of the thread but no one takes Stern seriously.
Sure. | |
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xxjamiestarrxx said: The chord progression in "Purple Rain" sounds identical to "Faithfully",by Journey.For all you musicians out there,go take a listen.Even the guitar solo is the same.It's just in a different key.
I point this out because of all of the people who are saying that Alicia Keys copied "Purple Rain". THEY ALL DO IT!! Have you heard of a 10 year old singer/musician named Gabi Wilson? google her name.She is being compared to Prince and Alicia. I dont hear it at all  Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song 
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Not even close! How this discussion ever got started is beyond me The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.
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Rumor has it it was accidental to the point that someone noted the similarity of the guitar solo to Prince he agreed even though he wasn't trying to copy it.He called Journey up to apologize and offered them money for it. They being the great musicians they were told him they were honored but they knew it was just a coincidence. BTW Journey is my favorite rock group and I love Faithfully. Steve Perry's voice could make me melt. [Edited 3/18/08 18:11pm] | |
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The influence is definitely there. Others have brought it up before... listen to the whoa..oah... part...
Listen to 2:45 onwards: It's not an outright ripoff, but you can't deny the influence. even the drum fills sound similar... [Edited 3/18/08 18:29pm] | |
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sammij said: ok listen to the intro of the journey song
it's not BANG on so if you're all waiting to hear the exact progression, you're not going to hear it it's just very similar and a few tones down... The similarity really comes towards the end of the song. | |
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You can't really hear any resemblance until the end of the song... but I think "stole" is a bit strong... the Cocteau Twins have the same chord progression in one of their songs, and I don't think they did it intentionally either... Change it one more time.. | |
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coolcat said: sammij said: ok listen to the intro of the journey song
it's not BANG on so if you're all waiting to hear the exact progression, you're not going to hear it it's just very similar and a few tones down... The similarity really comes towards the end of the song. i couldn't bare to listen to it any longer than the first few seconds 
but i heard it from the very beginning. [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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lezama said: You can't really hear any resemblance until the end of the song... but I think "stole" is a bit strong... the Cocteau Twins have the same chord progression in one of their songs, and I don't think they did it intentionally either...
I wouldn't use the word "stole" either... but it's more than just the chord progression... Prince uses "woo hoo hoo hoo"... journey uses whoa... oah... drums are also similar... | |
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Now that you mention it, and when I listen to the song in my head, I can hear the similarity towards the end of Purple Rain. It's the guitar solo.  | |
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The main chord progression is the same but the melody is very different. Look at 50's rock and roll, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, etc...., mostly all of their songs have the same three chord progression as does lots of rock music. A chord progression can't really be stolen, it's almost always the melody of a song that is looked at when copyright infringment is brought up. Because "Faithfully" came out in '83, and P most likely wrote "Purple Rain" in early '83, there is no doubt that he borrowed the chord progression for his song. But I would bet that same chord progression can be found in various gosphel records that had been around years before either of those two songs ever were written. | |
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laurarichardson said: Efan said: Jeez, people are sensitive about this. It was indeed talked about on the Stern show, and I'm not the only person who heard it. Check out Reply #13 from blackguitaristz in here: http://prince.org/msg/8/262793
---- We are all aware of the thread but no one takes Stern seriously. U don't have to take Stern seriously. It's not about Howard Stern. It's about how P definately bit off of Journey's cut. One of the first threads I ever wrote on here was about this. I could hear this the first time I heard the song Purple Rain. Cuz I loved the shit out of "Faithfully". U gotta be stone deaf not to hear it. P's guitar solo is straight up Neal Schon. Which isn't surprising being P always dug Neal's playing ever since Neal was with Santana. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Damn, that's pathetic. This sucks...
Prince stole the song and modified it. He played his own version of Schon's guitar solo! Damn. They even play one exact note that's in Prince's Purple Rain. The instrumental part before Prince sings "Oooh" in Purple Rain is in there. Wow. This is a travesty. Damn... I knew he was influenced by Jimi with the Little Miss Lover sample but damn. What a ripoff. All these years I thought the song was completely original... | |
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