Bewdy said:

NO, I don't think that's why they were trying to say.
Preaching? jeesh! someone says something about how prince was supposed to be studying the bible and someone else posts relevant quotes from the bible and suddenly he's (she's) preaching.
good lord (not preaching) but some of yall got your undies in a serious BUNCH.

Bewdy said:

Parables are designed to be applied to everyday life circumstances/situations.
Once again, I am thankful for the question, it afforded me to search the scriptures, consequently giving me the clarification I needed.

4bjb said:

It's a shame that you can't think/reason for yourself. That would give you the clarity you need.

I work part-time at night as a shadow-stalking ninja-assasin (by day I work at a cannery. I'm lead-supervsor of my line),
& you know what I've been seeing alot of lately?
That whenever I'm on an assignment that involves epic battles between warring sanctions of samurai clans and/or ronin-gang warrriors,
in the midst of the blood-splattering melee,
from the corner of my eye, I always notice a pirate or two, slashing away with his scabbard.
Which is odd, considering that with the success of the Pirates Of The Carribean franchise,
you would think that they would'nt have any truouble at all finding employment a bit closer to their own chosen genre.

Now, don't get me wrong...
I find 'em always to be worthy & respectable adversaries,
but it does make the scene seem a bit askew.
You know what I mean?

eightiesmusicculture said:

violetblues said:

Excellent post

well, if nothing else, prince and web sheriff have directed attention to pirate bay for those fans who had never heard of it before and have no problem scouting out new bootleg material...and if pirate bay is as adept at handling legal attacks as i'm reading, they could get a whole new wave of business right now. smoove move!

Anxiety said:

Naw, sites like Pirate Bay doing not-too-kosher bussiness need to keep flying low under the raidar,..... they know dam well when their name keeps poping up its time to move on,.....advertising not good for bussiness.... again....example: Napster
[Edited 11/12/07 8:59am]

fantasticjoy said:

Granted He's using them to and stands to gain from whatever arrangements he has made.

When it comes to antics like this it's just business its not about music its about getting paid.

Illustrator said:

WTF

pirate bay is not oinks pink palace, its not a music community. its just a pirate site ran by people who are "anti-copyright", and includes stuff like software. it's not defensible at all. you cant even get much music on it anyway, only really really popular stuff
[Edited 11/12/07 10:17am]

EYE EYE whats going on here then ? EYE EYE EYE, Can EYE kick it OH YES WE CAN .
Its all in his EYE`S the pathway 2 ur soul. Keep looking with those EYE`S as EYE know its coming 4 sure BOO STOP THAT ONE PARTYMAN

eightiesmusicculture said:

That's what I've been saying all along as well. Even if there were chapters and verses in the Bible about copyright infringement and freedom of speech, Prince would twist it around in his mind so that he would be convinced that whatever the bible would have to say about this would not apply to him. He thinks that because his name is Prince, he can do whatever he wants.

violetblues said:

So low under the radar it has 2.2 MILLION members

The Pirate Bay thrives on publicity like this

Every legal challenge against it has failed

They also make around $75,000 a week in advertising revenue

asg said:

not so ..

I had heard of Pirate Bay before this but had never downloaded anything from them. Hearing this is making me want to reconsider. He's done one thing for real as others have said and that is to make the internet users more aware of them.

JOYJOY said:

Yeah,
I apologize for that.

Since the word "pirate" was on the thread title,
this was the closest I could come to posting anything on this thread.
My life experience to anything pirate
is pretty limited.
And now that I've discovered the org & spend a hell of alot less time out outside,
I can't imagine that this situation is gonna improve any time soon.

As has already been expressed in this thread, and as I thought would happen, by Prince actually naming The Pirate Bay he has just opened up the illegal download debate.

In view of this an e-mail has been sent to the Web Sheriff asking him to serve on Prince a "cease and desist" notice on the grounds that Prince is now telling people where to go to download his material.

The e-mail reads as follows:


[Edited 11/12/07 14:48pm]

ace1967 said:

So it is okay for them to make money off of other people's work and not compensate the owners of the music and software they steal.

P would be a moron if he did not try and sue them.
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Markland said:

ace1967 said:

laurarichardson said:[quote]So it is okay for them to make money off of other people's work and not compensate the owners of the music and software they steal.

P would be a moron if he did not try and sue them.
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That isnt what I said at all, in fact, if you read my previous posts you will see that I am totally in favour of protecting a persons intellectual property

The problem you have with The Pirate Bay is this, its not illegal in Sweden where they are based, nor in several other european countries

They don't actually have any copyright or trademark material on their servers

The people who actually commit the offences are those with infringing material in their possession

Until the laws are changed over torrent sites The Pirate Bay will remain up and running

Where this whole sorry saga falls apart is "representatives" are trying to tell people what they can do with material over which they own the copyright

This is more than a spat about infringing copyrights, its about freedom of expression and freedom of speech

Btw, there is a very simple way to shut down torrent sites, even in Sweden, you just need to think outside of the box to do it

Its amazingly simple and if someone wants to pay me an extortionate amount of money I will tell them how to do it legally

laurarichardson said:

suing them is one thing. citing pirate bay's name in the media before a cease and desist is successfully complied with is just good business for pirate bay and a shot in the foot for prince. i'd never heard of pirate bay before this week.

Anxiety said:

I totally agree, putting out a press release globally with The Pirate Bay mentioned in it was an act of monumental folly

Best advert they could have had and probably good for another 100,000 or so hits on the site

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.....

Bewdy said:

Again I am thankful for question. One should be able to direct another indiviual to bibical scripture...in this case God's law recognizes Intellectual Property Rights/Copyright Infringement Laws. Scripture tells us to obey God's Law as well as the Man's Law.
Matt.Chap.22v20:21 reads...And He said to them, "Whose image and inscription is this? They said to Him, "Ceasar's." And He said to them, Render therefore to Ceasar the things that are Ceasar's, and to God the thngs that are God's. A righteous man has no fear of the law. As it stands...It's against the law.
End of story

If you head over to pirate bay and click on the legal link and look at all the threats and who they are from, I don't think they even blinked when lil old P sent out his briefs.

When you're getting threats from Microsoft, Dreamworks and Warner Bros. Prince and his whining probably didn't even raise an eyebrow.
[Edited 11/12/07 22:31pm]

lazycrockett said:

If you read PB's responses to the threats, some are kinda funny.

Example, one of their responses to one of Apple's demands:

"Instead of simply recommending that you sodomize yourself with a retractable baton, let me recommend a specific model- the ASP21". The previous lawyers
tried to use a cheaper brand, but it broke during the action."

I also like their responses to Rabbit Comics, Racing & to enya.com

happyhappy said:

my thoughts exactly.

4bjb said:

So now prince is gods representative on earth and we have to do as he says?

Interesting.....

planetChar said:

Right, like mr. nelson will singelhandedly tear down a torrent site no media conglemarate has succeeded in before.
The only thing he manages to do with this, is gain pirate bay even more attention. Coupled to the thousands of fans he pissed off, many of them will now probably run to PB and downlaod as much crap as they can.
Mission completely failed.