pplrain said:

Oh come on now!

Touching upon Squirrel's nuts on this site is a new low.

BeautifulOneJem said:

there it is ! the truth

Illustrator said:

purplecam said:

There's good here, there's bad here. Sometimes the pendulum swings a bit far to either side, but that's how it goes. Prince is no god, he deserves to be knocked down a few pegs some days.

Personally, I would not have stuck around either if this site really was as far to the anti-Prince side as certain memebers of the fanbase seem to think it is, and you know I would've left in a second if it was of the officially-sanctioned ass-licking variety too.

JazzMeUp said:

A) Such comments wouldn't bother me unless there was something to them. If I know it's not true, providing it's not actually libelous, why should I bother even acknowledging them?
B) Anything the people around Prince have done to him/because of him/in reaction to him is his doing. If friends, family, employees, and band members are avoiding him or talking about him, that says more about the sort of people he chooses to associate with and the sort of person he is than it does about the behaviour of fans.
C) Why the hell would Prince post a pic of me and comment on it?

pplrain said:

Then he shouldn't act like one, should he?

JazzMeUp said:

I do see your point in this post. But no matter how hard someone may try to control what is said about them...you cannot control people's freedom of speech and expression (And yes I agree some people go way to far in thier language with that 1).

But People who have half a brain and had some home training courtesy of thier momma would know that

1 Dont believe in half of what u see and anything that u hear
- if u hear it or see it...reasearch it! Find out the truth for urself

2. Rumors can NEVER be trusted and should be treated as garabage

3. True friends never tell secrets..and all others who do should fall.

4. Always strive to have civility in ur language.

Having said that I believe that a mature, self confident celebrity could take what rumors said about them in stride because they know who they are ...and keeps thier circle of friends tight and numbered.

Being a celebrity u should be stronger than the rest of us. I dont know of one celebrity that didnt have thier own fan bases calling them out or people in general saying things about them. It comes along with the territory.

And even though some so called fans are rude and totally wrong..thier is a majority that does it for good clean fun (ie: Remember when he wore that outfit at the awards??! Lawd, Ill never forget that 1 )

But also if he tried to name all of those who dogged him in his song PFUnk ...it would be 10 hours long
[Edited 11/11/07 20:40pm]

gemini13 said:

a big co-sign!

vainandy said:

Andy! haven't seen you around.

and I agree about the koolaid... that is why I never posted not one time on npgmc... I was only trying to get good seats for a tour that never materialized.

gemini13 said:

@ Heavy moderation


@ looney ppl fart out rainbows

pplrain said:

Squirrel, take no notice, I'd be well pleased if i had nuts that size.

I never even joined the NPGMC. As soon as I heard there was a fee to join, I immediately said "NEXT!!". Prince already makes money from his albums and concerts and I be damned if I'm going to pay to find out the latest news on when an album is coming out or if a concert is coming to my area. That news should be for free, especially if he wants those things to sell.

Also, after hearing people here on the org talk about how everyone over there was a bunch of koolaid drinking, ass kissing, loony toons, and how anyone with a different opinion was banned, there's no way in hell I would have joined.

pplrain said:

and when prince has something that i want to praise, i will. why get your panties in a bunch over anything anyone else says? you don't like my opinion, stop reading it...ownership over your frustration is owned by you and only you.

vainandy said:

yeah, I resisted for a long time.
But when P and Tamar were starting their mini tour... I just knew he would come to Detroit, and I didn't want nosebleed seats like in the Musicology tour (even though I stood outside in the freaking cold for 5 hours... still got nosebleed seats.)
so I joined to get a chance at better seats. focking Prince... no show in detroit and then he closed down NPGMC after like 3 months. I never went to a single forum because I KNEW I would be banned. I have always been very critical of the newly divorced wife and supportive/sympathetic to Mayte. So I knew not to bother with the forums.

vainandy said:

i have to disagree about the fee. The $25 was beyond worth it for the concert benefits. the forum section is what ruined the site badly.
[Edited 11/12/07 8:58am]

wonder505 said:

But wait, didn't they have overseers that made sure that barely a disparaging word was ever uttered about his majesty? One would think that the forums would have been a big hit and the first thing to return when he launched 3121.com. I wonder why it wasn't resurrected?

There R more "haters" 4 sure, and I've been saying that, albeit in different terms, 4 a while now.

Prince, like many (but not most) humans, is a complex person, and when folks start judging someone they've never really met, it is bound 2 be inaccurate. Actions can be misinterpreted just as words R, and that's what we R seeing right now.

All one has 2 do is look at all of the "Prince should've stuck with Mani/Mayte/Whoever" threads, or the "is his hair real?"/""did he really write that?"/"does he care about his fans?" threads.

I have said it before, and I'll say again here: All I care about is his music, his message, and of course, his well being.

He not only influenced my music and lyrics, but he echoed and paralleled my tastes, beliefs, and philosophies.

The "Prince: Music & More" section turned into mostly gossip and uneducated or presumed conclusions, and the "music" part of that faded dramatically in the last few years.

I've suggested that the Org separate the conjecture, hearsay, etc. from the music by creating a dedicated music section.

It could just be the nature of the growing activity on the internet as a whole, and because of Prince's growing popularity, but hey... it got a little hectic.

I used 2 hope that he didn't read the ORG, because it has 2 be at least somewhat debilitating 2 any artist 2 read the rampant gossip and hearsay, but I've known 4 a while that he does read it.

U would all agree with me if U really think about what is was like before the internet, when Prince not only didn't care about what the labels thought about his output, but didn't know what the general public would write about it and his personal life.

I'm liberal minded 2 an extent, when it comes 2 freedom of speech and such, but U have 2 admit, it has become sick in the wrong way...

Peace.

~G

Yeah. I said it.

Giovanni777 said:

Yes, you did and I'm compelled to ask you...what's his message?

pplrain said:

Not at all, I just gave some moral support to those fans who had problems.

You just waded like a typical fam sheep, picking a fight with those who were acting in a way you didn't like.

And now, because you don't like it being brought up, you resort to your usual insults.

Tame said:

You are on her side about stopping freedom of speech ot just the fact that you don't like the C word?

If its your dislike of the C word, then I actually agree with you. I din't have an issue with the word, I'm simply not a big user of it. My point was its irrelevant if you like it or not. We all use launguage in different ways and its not right to dictate your agenda on other people like pprain likes to do.

SquirrelMeat said:

Ahem! More like stirring up trouble ? and what exactly would be an "insult" to you?

SquirrelMeat said:

Oh stop being so contradictory... re-read your posts above the C word.
I cannot stop freedom of speech, I am intelligent enough to know that. It is the C word that I have an issue with and specifically use of it to label someone who is not here to defend himself.... got that? Now give me a and let's call it a day?

Giovanni777 said:

And I agree one thousand percent although your liberal use of 2s, 4s and U could give you a bit of a credibility problem. As I stated on another thread, I believe that freedom of speech is precious and should be used judiciously.

It's obvious from reading this board and others that not everyone agrees.

Question...what if the object of such derision is Michael Jackson or even George W. Bush? I've seen them skewered in many forums as well. It that okay?

Critique is one thing but oftentimes the redicule is over the top. If it bothers me, I can only imagine how debilitating it is for the target of these unkind comments. What solutions do you suggest??? Separating the forums won't stop it.

I doubted it when you suggested that he reads the fansites and sadly, I see that you weren't kidding. I can only suggest that since he likes to read I'd be willing to share my book list with him, I'm sure he'd find anything on it more uplifting than reading the fansites.

Now I think I'll log off now and take my own advice.

pplrain said:

It's not contradictary. I said I don't have a problem with the word. I didn't say I'm a big user of it. I said some people use it in everyday language.

Regardless...

Great. I guess the next scene in this movie is SquirrelMeat weeping gently after unloading his nuts in pplrain.

Anji said:

Did you just make a joke, Anji?

It was funny...very funny but I don't know if I should laugh or be very afraid.

Anji said:

Don't hold your breath!

Just look at the tommyrot which is running bear's latest post Prince, be strong; the storm will be over.
[Edited 11/12/07 19:47pm]