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PrintableAnxiety said: famous said: I believe that the majority of his change comes from the realization that the end is drawing near God wise. Speaking very loosely, In the past his music reflected a battle between good and evil. Now he dosen't want to battle anymore. This we understand. This now reflects in his music. We accepted this. At the height of his fame, being head to toe gorgeous and very expensive was also very expected. Time flew by and this is the lifestyle he is accustomed to and chose to live. But aside from his personal style, the issue at hand could be that he fears being worshipped. Clothes, Jewelery, Cars and Houses come with the territory and so does the idea of having people being star-struck over him because of his status and possibly for what they do not have in relation to their own personal lives. Somewhere in his thought's he's screaming "Don't look at me as a star to be awed at. Rather listen to the music..It's all about the music". In his way, he believes whole heartly that he is slowly but surely going to change these idiolist ideals. Problem is, It can be difficult to reverse what has already been done without creating an unneccesary "battle" if you will. Yet he will continue to pioneer in the face of adversity or 'adversaries' to show people the way...Gods will. Yet the question to him still remains ; "With legal representation aside, Can you frankly state the reasons why you believe this is your best course of action?" i would admire prince SO much if he made a public appearance, without the make-up, without the bimbo arm-jewelry, without the bling and the custom designer suit...that is, IF part of his aim is to re-wire our perception of him...and just say, "look at me. this is what it's all about now. i'm not interested in the fanaticism or the idol worship, i believe it's wrong. i'm going on my path and if you really DO appreciate me, look on me as you'd look on your neighbor." or something to that extent. i couldn't imagine the power that message would send out, especially if he actually lived up to such a statement. not gonna happen, but still.  You're right. He isn't going to publicly make that kind of announcement, He'd rather write a song instead. Thats the way he communicates. And the irony is, if he was to make a statement without make up, bling bling, Armani couture or oversized Chanel shades and just kept it real with us, it would be the most downloaded and exploited prince video to date. Irony!Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead.
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Anxiety said: famous said: I believe that the majority of his change comes from the realization that the end is drawing near God wise. Speaking very loosely, In the past his music reflected a battle between good and evil. Now he dosen't want to battle anymore. This we understand. This now reflects in his music. We accepted this. At the height of his fame, being head to toe gorgeous and very expensive was also very expected. Time flew by and this is the lifestyle he is accustomed to and chose to live. But aside from his personal style, the issue at hand could be that he fears being worshipped. Clothes, Jewelery, Cars and Houses come with the territory and so does the idea of having people being star-struck over him because of his status and possibly for what they do not have in relation to their own personal lives. Somewhere in his thought's he's screaming "Don't look at me as a star to be awed at. Rather listen to the music..It's all about the music". In his way, he believes whole heartly that he is slowly but surely going to change these idiolist ideals. Problem is, It can be difficult to reverse what has already been done without creating an unneccesary "battle" if you will. Yet he will continue to pioneer in the face of adversity or 'adversaries' to show people the way...Gods will. Yet the question to him still remains ; "With legal representation aside, Can you frankly state the reasons why you believe this is your best course of action?" i would admire prince SO much if he made a public appearance, without the make-up, without the bimbo arm-jewelry, without the bling and the custom designer suit...that is, IF part of his aim is to re-wire our perception of him...and just say, "look at me. this is what it's all about now. i'm not interested in the fanaticism or the idol worship, i believe it's wrong. i'm going on my path and if you really DO appreciate me, look on me as you'd look on your neighbor." or something to that extent. i couldn't imagine the power that message would send out, especially if he actually lived up to such a statement. not gonna happen, but still. You're right. He isn't going to publicly make that kind of announcement, He'd rather write a song instead. Thats the way he communicates. And the irony is, if he was to make a statement without make up, bling bling, Armani couture or oversized Chanel shades and just kept it real with us, it would be the most downloaded and exploited prince video to date. Irony! Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead.
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yay- this whole thing is hilarious!!!!! Nay- dont treats your fan/fams like shit, even thoe some are little shits. Yay- maybe he will cave in and you can post his picture so your life can be complete Yay- thanks for making me laugh Yay- brash little punks a few weeks ago were saying pirate bay was do whatever it wanted anyway so you better lay off, and after some lawers got involved they are now lol the are weeping little victim pfu;s lol hahahahahahahahahah  [Edited 11/9/07 19:06pm] | |
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"The three sites in question have falsely positioned themselves as representatives of millions of Prince fans. In fact, many have come out in support of Prince at his official site and even on the message boards of the unofficial sites in question.
FACE DOWN....FACE DOWN....PrinceFamsUnited.... 
WAR is OVER....PEACE... Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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Okay I don't want to become all religious or anything but ummm...
I don't think "PFU" would fly in any spiritual realm as appropriate... I'm a bit surprised by that... As for the song...love the music but the lyrics seem a bit childish... Even the move of setting up the site with an almost identical web address... The whole scenario reads like a playground spat... They put my pictures up...tell them to take my pictures down... they have my song lyrics on their site...tell them to take my song lyrics down... Trust me...we know who wrote the songs and who's in the pictures...but if you wanna keep all of that to yourself then go right ahead...no one is forcing you to do ANYTHING... I SERIOUSLY hope HE focuses on his MUSIC and not tyring to pick fights with adoring fans...BUT if he decides not to release another album because he's concerned about it's use or doesn't do another show because he's concerned about photos getting on the web or he just turns into Howard Hughes and becomes a complete recluse... We'll STILL love his music...well at least I will...
Let's use some logic here... If WE (the fans) don't talk about you or give a damn about you...WHO WILL??? NOBODY!!!! Okay I just decided while typing this that... Maybe he doesn't want US to like him...maybe he doesn't want US to come to his shows...maybe he doesn't want US to buy his music... and if that's the case...he can simply let us know IN A STRAIGHT FORWARD MANNER and we will thank you for the memories and MOVE ON!!! End of story!!! whoever's callin' can't be as cute as you...right then and there i knew i was through... | |
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Ivy6f92 said: Okay I don't want to become all religious or anything but ummm...
I don't think "PFU" would fly in any spiritual realm as appropriate... I'm a bit surprised by that... As for the song...love the music but the lyrics seem a bit childish... Even the move of setting up the site with an almost identical web address... The whole scenario reads like a playground spat... They put my pictures up...tell them to take my pictures down... they have my song lyrics on their site...tell them to take my song lyrics down... Trust me...we know who wrote the songs and who's in the pictures...but if you wanna keep all of that to yourself then go right ahead...no one is forcing you to do ANYTHING... I SERIOUSLY hope HE focuses on his MUSIC and not tyring to pick fights with adoring fans...BUT if he decides not to release another album because he's concerned about it's use or doesn't do another show because he's concerned about photos getting on the web or he just turns into Howard Hughes and becomes a complete recluse... We'll STILL love his music...well at least I will...
Let's use some logic here... If WE (the fans) don't talk about you or give a damn about you...WHO WILL??? NOBODY!!!! Okay I just decided while typing this that... Maybe he doesn't want US to like him...maybe he doesn't want US to come to his shows...maybe he doesn't want US to buy his music... and if that's the case...he can simply let us know IN A STRAIGHT FORWARD MANNER and we will thank you for the memories and MOVE ON!!! End of story!!!  | |
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i love prince...he is a genius and ill be here thru it all...my love is tru although i dont agree w everything i Love the music, it owns my heart  *mrs.x* | |
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Anxiety said: famous said: I believe that the majority of his change comes from the realization that the end is drawing near God wise. Speaking very loosely, In the past his music reflected a battle between good and evil. Now he dosen't want to battle anymore. This we understand. This now reflects in his music. We accepted this. At the height of his fame, being head to toe gorgeous and very expensive was also very expected. Time flew by and this is the lifestyle he is accustomed to and chose to live. But aside from his personal style, the issue at hand could be that he fears being worshipped. Clothes, Jewelery, Cars and Houses come with the territory and so does the idea of having people being star-struck over him because of his status and possibly for what they do not have in relation to their own personal lives. Somewhere in his thought's he's screaming "Don't look at me as a star to be awed at. Rather listen to the music..It's all about the music". In his way, he believes whole heartly that he is slowly but surely going to change these idiolist ideals. Problem is, It can be difficult to reverse what has already been done without creating an unneccesary "battle" if you will. Yet he will continue to pioneer in the face of adversity or 'adversaries' to show people the way...Gods will. Yet the question to him still remains ; "With legal representation aside, Can you frankly state the reasons why you believe this is your best course of action?" i would admire prince SO much if he made a public appearance, without the make-up, without the bimbo arm-jewelry, without the bling and the custom designer suit...that is, IF part of his aim is to re-wire our perception of him...and just say, "look at me. this is what it's all about now. i'm not interested in the fanaticism or the idol worship, i believe it's wrong. i'm going on my path and if you really DO appreciate me, look on me as you'd look on your neighbor." or something to that extent. i couldn't imagine the power that message would send out, especially if he actually lived up to such a statement. not gonna happen, but still. These are some interesting points brought up. I always thought this control of his image has something to do with his stance againt false-idol worship. Yes, he contradicts this through other actions but take Elvis, who dressed and acted the part everywhere he went: he made his fans take down posters in reference to 'the king', saying there was only one King and it wasn't him. That's just one example. I think Prince struggles with the idea. I think he likes being a superstar and getting attention etc, but he wants to do on his own terms... which is of course, impracticable but he'll certainly give it his best shot. Baby, that was much too fast... 1958-2016 | |
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Well, a few days ago, I was pretty upset when I posted over on the other thread, but the only reason I reacted so emotionally is because I was hurt.
Now, I do understand his side. I think he should clarify this whole matter to his real fans though, and ease up on the good people like me who NEVER use his name or image in a negative way. It's kind of like in politics when things like the Patriot Act are passed. Deep down, we know that we need something like that to stop some really horrible people from doing horrible things, but safeguards need to be put in there so that good people like us are not swept up in the process.  | |
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Things go waaaaay to far about this. Some folks seem to think they're in for some some of quest over a simple thing: Actually Prince is in his own right!
Come one everybody have a couple of chill pills and get funky!! When I read the comments here and there, I think all this has been a mere opportunity so spit our nastiness and frustrations. Really, there are more important thigs in life than this. We sometimes act as if we are spoiled babies and tend to think Prince owes us something special... In my humble opinion he already gave us many special treats. Take ya'll a deep breath, relax and let the vibe flow through... "Goodness will guide us when love is inside of us... The Force will be with you, always" | |
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lottielooloo1968 said: prince has got a lot more sucking up 2 do.
a mature apology/response would b the decent thing 2 do. PFUnk - seems as tho he's making light of it all... not really good enough  I know it is not popular here but I still dont see where Prince owes anyone anything. An apology or a new song. You sound plain ridiculous and selfish. | |
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ZFunc said: lottielooloo1968 said: prince has got a lot more sucking up 2 do.
a mature apology/response would b the decent thing 2 do. PFUnk - seems as tho he's making light of it all... not really good enough he doesn't need to suck up to any one. in fact, he's shown prince.org who's in control of his image and art, and it surely is not the moderators, otherwise images, etc would still be there. For what should he apologise? ...not spoiling certain individuals who exhibit behaviour of brats when they cannot do what they want in any manner they want? or, for not allowing his image on a site where he is slandered because of protecting that which is rightfully his? hear hear | |
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Nothinbutjoy said: Yay- Prince has the right to protect his intellectual property.
Yay- If we cannot flame each other, we should not be able to flame Prince. Nay- Prince does not have the right to tell me how I should feel about him, his music or anything else. Nay- PFUnk may be his dirtiest song in years. Not dirty, like nasty, masturbating with a magazine, dirty, but REAL dirty, like he actually invested a bit of sweat into it and didn't phone it in....So what's Nay about it? It's an insult wrapped in a hot, steaming blanket of glorious funk. And it certainly is not an adequate response. That's just off the top...there's more, but that's also enough  have you seen my post about intellectual property and the use of the word pfunk? walk with crooked shoes www.myspace/syblepurplelishous | |
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famous said: Anxiety said: i would admire prince SO much if he made a public appearance, without the make-up, without the bimbo arm-jewelry, without the bling and the custom designer suit...that is, IF part of his aim is to re-wire our perception of him...and just say, "look at me. this is what it's all about now. i'm not interested in the fanaticism or the idol worship, i believe it's wrong. i'm going on my path and if you really DO appreciate me, look on me as you'd look on your neighbor." or something to that extent. i couldn't imagine the power that message would send out, especially if he actually lived up to such a statement. not gonna happen, but still. You're right. He isn't going to publicly make that kind of announcement, He'd rather write a song instead. Thats the way he communicates. And the irony is, if he was to make a statement without make up, bling bling, Armani couture or oversized Chanel shades and just kept it real with us, it would be the most downloaded and exploited prince video to date. Irony! If prince was worried about the trappings of wealth he would not have created so purient as a perfume brand, it is easy to hide behind a religion and 'pint a perfect picture' but ow thw whole worl outsid cybespace can see what is going on but do we really know what is going on? is the PFU he has created a diss or a copycat ilve branch jesture afterall he gave the song to the original pfu before creating the npg pfu site maybe just maybe (she says hopefully) he is 'cocking a snook' at his religious advisers and finding his own way now without their constant guidance - afterall it was he who always told his listeners to not do what they want u to do etc many religious types would not like his raw funk and maybe it is aimed to them not his fams. it is possible hat he s an individual originally was advised to hire websherrif and they were given a blanket order o get the image etc off the web and maybe it is they who have taken this too far and too literally - the only peron who can now tell the truth is prince himself, so there is no use ay of us speculating. as for the song the last bit worries me - about digital music being dead when he pioneered it and him leaving etc could be we are sensitive and maybe he is literally re-enacting being at a gig where the peep dont appreciate him after all most of his past music has been themed as tho hes written a play which is why albums like 3121 feel disjointed walk with crooked shoes www.myspace/syblepurplelishous | |
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ya know, if "digital music is dead", then why release PFUnk digitally?  | |
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Anxiety said: ya know, if "digital music is dead", then why release PFUnk digitally?
 Contradictions, Contradictions, Contradictions. The heeled offline/online nuisance is full of them. | |
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Prince has been forced to inhale helium to remove all credibility from his statement. | |
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syble said: Nothinbutjoy said: Yay- Prince has the right to protect his intellectual property.
Yay- If we cannot flame each other, we should not be able to flame Prince. Nay- Prince does not have the right to tell me how I should feel about him, his music or anything else. Nay- PFUnk may be his dirtiest song in years. Not dirty, like nasty, masturbating with a magazine, dirty, but REAL dirty, like he actually invested a bit of sweat into it and didn't phone it in....So what's Nay about it? It's an insult wrapped in a hot, steaming blanket of glorious funk. And it certainly is not an adequate response. That's just off the top...there's more, but that's also enough have you seen my post about intellectual property and the use of the word pfunk? Was it the one where George Clinton should sue him because George used Pfunk first? 
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MsLegs said: Anxiety said: ya know, if "digital music is dead", then why release PFUnk digitally?
Contradictions, Contradictions, Contradictions. The heeled offline/online nuisance is full of them. yeah, i guess it's more amusing than anything else.  | |
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Imago said: After 1999-The New Master, I was certain nothing could get worse.
. lawd 1999 new masters,darkness.... oprah know chile....just tears me apart!!!@!  | |
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pplrain said: ... we know Prince is not perfect, however we can express our views in a non hateful manner.
whats considered a non hateful manner?...im just curious. some examples plz,ppl | |
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Anxiety said: MsLegs said: Contradictions, Contradictions, Contradictions. The heeled offline/online nuisance is full of them. yeah, i guess it's more amusing than anything else. If the musical fiascal of 3121 and the offline and online harassment of fans is any indication, I'll say you're correct. The mole in heels just goes from pitiful to worse when one has him by his sagging face and balls. | |
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Although this issue shouldnt even BE an issue it made me wonder on a deeper level....It's like he's playing a game with us. Like he played with Warners. It makes me wonder if this is why he's 'lonely' relationship wise. I know btw, that the ceast and decest are not a joke but you can't deny that he found this quite amusing. Much so that he wrote a hilarious song behing it. The 'Joker' from Batman epitomizes this man so much. Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead.
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Christopher said: pplrain said: ... we know Prince is not perfect, however we can express our views in a non hateful manner.
whats considered a non hateful manner?...im just curious. some examples plz,ppl Discuss your views of Prince and his music without calling him vulgar names, also try to avoid attacks on his physical attributes.. those of which he does not have control of. You don't have to like every thing the man does... but please spare us the hate... You've been here long enough you should know what I am talking about. | |
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famous said: Although this issue shouldnt even BE an issue it made me wonder on a deeper level....It's like he's playing a game with us. Like he played with Warners. It makes me wonder if this is why he's 'lonely' relationship wise. I know btw, that the ceast and decest are not a joke but you can't deny that he found this quite amusing. Much so that he wrote a hilarious song behing it. The 'Joker' from Batman epitomizes this man so much.
i've always loved the joker in batman comic books, but i always have to keep remembering he's a) one of the bad guys and b) off his rocker! | |
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pplrain said: Christopher said: whats considered a non hateful manner?...im just curious. some examples plz,ppl Discuss your views of Prince and his music without calling him vulgar names, also try to avoid attacks on his physical attributes.. those of which he does not have control of. You don't have to like every thing the man does... but please spare us the hate... You've been here long enough you should know what I am talking about. Yup... that's my pet peeve too. It's just not necessary.  |
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moderatorJune7 said: pplrain said: Discuss your views of Prince and his music without calling him vulgar names, also try to avoid attacks on his physical attributes.. those of which he does not have control of. You don't have to like every thing the man does... but please spare us the hate... You've been here long enough you should know what I am talking about. Yup... that's my pet peeve too. It's just not necessary. well said.... true gentelman,..... and having said that i must also apologise for my vulger laguage at times,..... i was raised in a barn. | |
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June7 said: pplrain said: Discuss your views of Prince and his music without calling him vulgar names, also try to avoid attacks on his physical attributes.. those of which he does not have control of. You don't have to like every thing the man does... but please spare us the hate... You've been here long enough you should know what I am talking about. Yup... that's my pet peeve too. It's just not necessary. Totally agree... [Edited 11/11/07 12:49pm] | |
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My impression of this fiasco is Prince in all his HYPERSENSITIVITY can't deal with these fansites. This has less to do about using his image and more about 3 sites that he finds OUT OF HIS CONTROL and yes, even INTIMIDATING.
There is always going to be nonsense on a site with hatred, rumors, lies, etc, that clowns post. People will post things or converse in a manner they would not dare to in the real world. That comes with an open free forum. It's totally understandable if an artist get's upset about some of it. One example, www.vai.com, guitar virtuouso Steve Vai posted a full length statement a few months back after a cruel thread posting on his website stated he canned/fired his world reknown bassist Billy Sheehan. Steve was upset and clarified the situation. That being said, Prince VISITS these sites and I'm sure he's posted. Many would claim nobody at his level would deal this stuff. Ha ha. Celebrities have been discovered in chat rooms, dating sites and more. The internet gives them a chance to enjoy ANONYMITY with people and not the tiresome real world experience of the circus animal. Years ago there was a woman working in the bowels of the net service AOL in Arizona who had access to celebrity accounts on AOL (celebrities have enjoyed gift packages of AOL service, like the ritzy goody bags they get at award shows). She conversed with many and lots more playing the innocent chatter. I'd say roughly 70% of the time Prince.org and Housequake.com display threads with integrity-- talking, discussing, analyzing the Prince realm. It's a testament to his GENUIS. I prefer Prince.org for it's animation, layout, etc. On top of that both sites have moderators. But apparantely CRITICAL ANAYLSIS of Prince's LAST ALBUM or his recent BUSINESS PRACTICES I believe have proven too much for him. If one believes CREATIVE INSPIRATION comes from GOD and these are indeed products of THE JOYFUL MASTER, then why the submission to HUMAN LAW? | |
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