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New topic PrintableAnxiety said: JazzMeUp said: No, it doesn't really, your post had just confused me a little that's all. But maybe you should start praying for this site instead. and maybe we all could use a good laugh once in a while. Ok, go on then, tell us a (good) joke! | |
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deepabove said: I'm a freelance writer/photographer. You can bet I ask sites to take down stuff they used without getting permission first. Does that mean I hate them? Not at all. The whole point of copyright law is to allow the original creator of something to decide where, when and how (if at all) something gets disseminated. I don't know if fanaticism means people automatically forget this "minor" detail or what. But come on folks, this should be common sense. Prince doesn't hate his fans. If he did he sure as heck wouldn't ever play aftershows or have a website at all. The man has always been on the forefront of sticking up for artist's rights and this is no different. It may seem over the top because it's only pictures, but it's still THE LAW for pete's sake. Sites should be happy they weren't sued years ago (by anyone, including the major media sites they all rip off on a daily basis) because copyright violation carries ridiculous fines that not one of us on this forum would EVER want to pay. And that's for each infringement.
I understand and agree with points raised, but we're talking about folks who are supporting him ... without making personal financial or commercial gain..THEY are supporting HIM. Where an individual or a ccollection of people are making personal or commercial financiaal gain or seeking to decry or defame that person then fair enough... they law should be brought into force. Like you say... at the end of the day it is the law and he has the right...over the material he has copyright for. However, We are talking of a community... where people share... We are talking about his fans who understandibly like to discuss and debate his work and his life.. he is a public figure and as such he should employ tolerance and understanding of those who support him. We all have rights. | |
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Rinluv said: I hate when people say "Prince hates his fans". I always thought, how would they know. Like they know what Prince is thinking, or had some kinda private conversation with him, where as those were his exact words.
[Edited 11/5/07 15:08pm] Actions speak louder than words. | |
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ToraToraDreams said: iknowwhoyouare said: I am just curious, in the same instance, does Bill Gate hate his fans because he charges for say MS Word and we can not freely distribute it? I work for Software Company, and we provide an enabling technology, and you better believe we charge royalties. If you don't pay, we will come after you. Our IP, our trade and service marks, our copyrights are ours, and we created them, researched them, and paid to own the registrations. Do you think software companies have more rights than entertainers when it comes to being paid for their, lack of a better word, wares?
Does Bill Gates threaten people who post pictures of his dorky face? Does he remove videos of his speeches or interviews? I'm down with not letting people bootleg the hell out of your music, thats stealing. But some of the things he does, and his heavy handed approach is ridiculous. The whole point is Prince is over stepping his bounds. He is trying to control his fans just as much as his music. Are you telling me that people have to pay Prince to get a symbol tattoo? How is merely talking about Prince on this website infringing on his property? Under US law, people have what is known as "fair use" of protected intellectual property. That means that it is legal to post pictures of Prince on a website and discuss him. What is illegal is if we sell the pictures that are posted. This website and the other Prince fan sites that I've come across are doing nothing wrong. And there is nothing wrong with ex-body guards sharing a part of their life that included Prince. http://www.trueprincestories.com/ | |
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violetblues said: lspear76 said: What copyright protected work? A photo not owned by him? My opinion that his music since 1987 sucks? Please tell me. Listen carefully boy, if a person(maybe you) asks permission of owner of whatever copyright work, and if granted then its ok! and....sometimes people ask that you pay a fee for their work got it. You have a reading comprehension problem. | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Prince doesn't understand true love, he thinks love is a bumber sticker, like funk, which he stole from JB
LOL, what utter BS. Baby, that was much too fast... 1958-2016 | |
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tmo1965 said: Rinluv said: I hate when people say "Prince hates his fans". I always thought, how would they know. Like they know what Prince is thinking, or had some kinda private conversation with him, where as those were his exact words.
[Edited 11/5/07 15:08pm] Actions speak louder than words. Alright people keep sayin' that stupid shit, and I never said that it didn't. All I said was how would ya'll know what the hell he was thinkin' while doing this. Hate? or what. Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U. | |
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p4life said: fuck perez hilton he's just a little mess maker just love to stir up gossip he doesnt know what the fuck he s talking about
the thing is...he's not the only source reporting this story | |
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JazzMeUp said: Anxiety said: and maybe we all could use a good laugh once in a while. Ok, go on then, tell us a (good) joke! unfortunately it's a prince joke and i don't have the legal fees to share the punchline. | |
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violetblues said: meow85 said: You're a big fan of censorhsip, aren't you? It doesn't matter who you think does or doesn't care about somebody's tattoo or baby. The fact is Prince (or his legal team; whoever's okay-ing this shit) are going beyond their legal rights of ownership. Prince does not own a caricature or a tattoo or a baby and does not have the right to shut down those who criticize him. Prince has pulled some bullshit before, but this takes the fucking cake. It's illegal. He has every right to ask that youtube or housequake or wherever else not post copyrighted images or videos. He has no right to demand the removal of everything online that might be a tinge lilac. lol youre a big fan of ignorance arnt you! Youre a big fan of stupidity arnt you You sit on your ass while others work and put their money time and sweat and creative neck on the the line to produce something to entertain you, people earntheir money that way, writers, artists, producers, software engeneers on and on, THAT IS the point not dancing youtube baby, its protecting YOU and YOUR WORK you [Name calling snip - luv4u] [Edited 11/6/07 5:57am] Temper temper. Bottom line is: Prince does not own somebody's tattoo, or their t-shirts, or the photos that they took all by their onesies, and does not have the right to take them down, nor does he have the right to censor people who criticize him. People aren't bitching about Prince's rightfully asking that copyrighted material not be posted or traded, it's his grossly overstepping his rights people object to. Now I suggest you calm the fuck down, and put down the purple kool-aid. Prince is not losing money or rights or anything else by allowing the fan community to share things he does not own -but he will lose fans if he keeps this shit up. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: violetblues said: lol youre a big fan of ignorance arnt you! Youre a big fan of stupidity arnt you You sit on your ass while others work and put their money time and sweat and creative neck on the the line to produce something to entertain you, people earntheir money that way, writers, artists, producers, software engeneers on and on, THAT IS the point not dancing youtube baby, its protecting YOU and YOUR WORK you [Name calling snip - luv4u] [Edited 11/6/07 5:57am] Temper temper. Bottom line is: Prince does not own somebody's tattoo, or their t-shirts, or the photos that they took all by their onesies, and does not have the right to take them down, nor does he have the right to censor people who criticize him. People aren't bitching about Prince's rightfully asking that copyrighted material not be posted or traded, it's his grossly overstepping his rights people object to. Now I suggest you calm the fuck down, and put down the purple kool-aid. Prince is not losing money or rights or anything else by allowing the fan community to share things he does not own -but he will lose fans if he keeps this shit up. lol too funny, ok ok maybe he will cave in so you can post his picture so your llife can be complete again | |
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violetblues said: meow85 said: Temper temper. Bottom line is: Prince does not own somebody's tattoo, or their t-shirts, or the photos that they took all by their onesies, and does not have the right to take them down, nor does he have the right to censor people who criticize him. People aren't bitching about Prince's rightfully asking that copyrighted material not be posted or traded, it's his grossly overstepping his rights people object to. Now I suggest you calm the fuck down, and put down the purple kool-aid. Prince is not losing money or rights or anything else by allowing the fan community to share things he does not own -but he will lose fans if he keeps this shit up. lol too funny, ok ok maybe he will cave in so you can post his picture so your llife can be complete again Seriously, do you work for Prince? Is he giving you rimjobs on a daily basis? Because damn, these purple-pole licking comments are killing me! Like it or not, it's the fanbase and not His Highness that have the law on their side. The Kid is beyond his rights on this one. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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TheDoctor said: It's probably all because he saw someone's post of the "red suspenders picture" of him.
Well, I'D probably threaten to sue to get that picture removed if it were me! err hello the our little purple friend is wearing a FEMALE Corset over his red shirt in the PE album cover.... surely he can't be mad over some red suspenders? ( all words arranged herein this post are the copyright of lovealotbare and can be quoted with the appropriate citation "lovealotbare" and weblink to the original arrangement of words! ) | |
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lovealotbare said: TheDoctor said: It's probably all because he saw someone's post of the "red suspenders picture" of him.
Well, I'D probably threaten to sue to get that picture removed if it were me! err hello the our little purple friend is wearing a FEMALE Corset over his red shirt in the PE album cover.... surely he can't be mad over some red suspenders? I can't believe how many people are still surprised when they see Prince wearing girls' clothes, or act like it's unusual for him. Have you SEEN that red suspenders/gym shorts photo? I'd be trying to destroy evidence of that thing too if I was him! "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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iknowwhoyouare said: I am just curious, in the same instance, does Bill Gate hate his fans because he charges for say MS Word and we can not freely distribute it?
Bill Gates has fans? | |
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sloopydrew4u said: iknowwhoyouare said: I am just curious, in the same instance, does Bill Gate hate his fans because he charges for say MS Word and we can not freely distribute it?
Bill Gates has fans? He does http://www.billgatesmicro.../fans.htm, he even has a fan of the week. I won't say if I am member, but he certainly has a following. | |
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RUHip2TheJive said: I can understand why P might want to take down the stuff that's on these sites, but I think that, as a celebrity having your mug posted on the internet comes with the territory.
Here Here - I totally agree! What gets me is that this and the other fansites were not exploiting his image in the first place. He should be picking on those abusing him, not those who are celebrating him. | |
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Jana91 said: The gossip gangster has just posted on his website the media buzz surrounding the Prince Fans United site. Check it out at Perezhilton.com, and the not so nice comments being left by his readers.
"The Gossip Gangster"? Consider the source! Believe me. There are more fans of Prince music than his pictures (and they don't live on the internet). He doesn't know most of the story. He's just bandwagon-ing to get a TV-Gossip show. If Prince's name wasn't in it, it would not be posted. There are a few Internet Attention Whores attempting to "spread the word about this legal battle" on other messgage boards I read, and nobody cares. Legally, if Prince could not do what he's done, then he would not waste his $$$$ or Universal's. If someone copied Perez's or your picture, on their site, and sometimes manipulated the photos, or compared them to an ill Elvis because they were not allowed to release a calendar of other photos without your permission. What would you do? 1 of these sites just kept-on griping because they could make a $ or two, and Mr. Nelson finally gave them something to cry about. All because they did not want Prince to tell them, "No. You cannot use these photos for persoanl gain". The audacity of one of these sites to attempt to smear Prince business in Vegas as some sort of personal vendetta is sickening. Nobody cries this badly unless they cannot have their way..And their way is probably not good. I've been around these sites for awhile, and there are some things that this Gossip Gangster needs to research before taking the reports of some drama queens on the 'net. | |
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Linn4days, you *do* realize that prince.org (the site that you are currently posting in) is part of the 'legal battle'? | |
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