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Reply #60 posted 07/20/07 3:52pm

2elijah

VenusBlingBling said:

2elijah said:




You must be talking about the sans bushman from South Africa who are the oldest living human beings to date and it is believed they carry the features of all the human race.




"The Bushmen of southern Africa are believed to be direct descendents of the first evolved Homo sapiens over 100,000 years ago.....research reveals that the genetic markers found in their DNA are unlike any others found outside of Africa"
[Edited 7/20/07 13:56pm]


nod nod




thumbs up! wink
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Reply #61 posted 07/20/07 3:53pm

IRISHFAN

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I heard the oldest gen human have is African origin and I am proud to have African genes. smile cool !



Yes I also remember hearing that, so to simplify the whole thing - we are ALL decendants from Africa - end of!

I have observed in the past that Americans tend to be "hung up" about their origins - for example Ive heard "my mothers German/Irish and my father's africian american/latin" etc. I dont mean to generalise but there seems to be a need to state this, which I would never have come across anywhere else.

I knew Prince was Black the first time I saw him on tv in 1983 - dont understand the confusion!
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Reply #62 posted 07/20/07 3:58pm

2elijah

sataninas said:

I heard the oldest gen human have is African origin and I am proud to have African genes. smile cool !


Irish fan said:

Yes I also remember hearing that, so to simplify the whole thing - [b]we are ALL decendants from Africa - end of!
I knew Prince was Black the first time I saw him on tv in 1983 - dont understand the confusion![/b]

clapping..Amen...and the preacher has spoken..

Check out this documentary video.....it's a 13 part documentary series called Journey of Man:A Genetic Odyssey from Geneticist, Spencer Wells(talks about the sans bushmen (group of oldest living human beings) of the kalahari desert and how we are all related to them)

http://www.youtube.com/wa...V6A8oGtPc4

...get the popcorn out, sit back and enjoy..it's a long one

.....(acjohns..sorry 'bout the threadjacking)

DISCLAIMER: The purpose of posting above youtube link is
for sharing info purposes only and not to impose its views on
anyone.
[Edited 7/21/07 7:45am]
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Reply #63 posted 07/20/07 8:19pm

Flowerz

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Flowerz said:



well supposedly.. Prince wore weave (there's a thread on it) .. Im still in denial about this hmph! (im just not accepting that lol), but I think all men can grow their hair long.. and may even grow faster than females



Back in the seventies you grew out your fro and then realxed it ....no weave needed back then .....So he must still have it relaxed take a look at his old pics in the 70's ...big ole fro ..


I said.. I am in denial about it.. i was not one of the ones who said Prince wore weave.. that thread ppl said he wore weave during the Lovesexy days..
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Reply #64 posted 07/20/07 9:41pm

kyla

i love prince 4 being prince!
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Reply #65 posted 07/20/07 11:37pm

PleasurePrinci
ple

Flowerz said:

Etorres said:




Back in the seventies you grew out your fro and then realxed it ....no weave needed back then .....So he must still have it relaxed take a look at his old pics in the 70's ...big ole fro ..


I said.. I am in denial about it.. i was not one of the ones who said Prince wore weave.. that thread ppl said he wore weave during the Lovesexy days..

yea,I believe Prince wore weave b4 but not as much as people would like 2 believe.He has and had alot of beautiful hair.
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Reply #66 posted 07/21/07 2:00am

Shhh747

PleasurePrinciple said:

falloff
Prince is Italian...since when?1984?



spit

Prince has shown some interest in Latin women before... but some of the correlations hinted at the thread are pretty farfetched, such as Eva Langoria sitting next to him. lol he was sitting next to Dave Chapelle too and next to P.Diddy... does he have a preference for black male companions now? just an odd generalization. confused
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Reply #67 posted 07/21/07 12:56pm

PleasurePrinci
ple

Shhh747 said:

PleasurePrinciple said:

falloff
Prince is Italian...since when?1984?



spit

Prince has shown some interest in Latin women before... but some of the correlations hinted at the thread are pretty farfetched, such as Eva Langoria sitting next to him. lol he was sitting next to Dave Chapelle too and next to P.Diddy... does he have a preference for black male companions now? just an odd generalization. confused

falloff highfive thats what Im sayin.Like when Prince bought his ticket hes like "yes,and can u please have me seated me next to a petite Latin women,thank you"
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Reply #68 posted 07/22/07 9:32am

sataninas

2elijah said:

sataninas said:

I heard the oldest gen human have is African origin and I am proud to have African genes. smile cool !



You must be talking about the sans bushman from South Africa who are the oldest living human beings to date and it is believed they carry the features of all the human race.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...V6A8oGtPc4






"The Bushmen of southern Africa are believed to be direct descendents of the first evolved Homo sapiens over 100,000 years ago.....research reveals that the genetic markers found in their DNA are unlike any others found outside of
Africa
"
[Edited 7/21/07 7:39am]


And we are family! biggrin
[Edited 7/22/07 9:34am]
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Reply #69 posted 07/22/07 10:46pm

Amaxx

sataninas said:

malbena said:



Thank you!


You are welcome! I am Spanish and been grown with Italian people. The most of ny adolescence friends were Italians. We have a similar temperament, latino. biggrin

BINGO!
All U have 2 do is travel between Italy and Spain & have a short stop in France, and that's where U see how similar Italians and Spanish R! Coz the French R just a whole different race and culture! cool
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Reply #70 posted 07/22/07 10:50pm

Amaxx

IRISHFAN said:

sataninas said:

I heard the oldest gen human have is African origin and I am proud to have African genes. smile cool !



Yes I also remember hearing that, so to simplify the whole thing - we are ALL decendants from Africa - end of!

I have observed in the past that Americans tend to be "hung up" about their origins - for example Ive heard "my mothers German/Irish and my father's africian american/latin" etc. I dont mean to generalise but there seems to be a need to state this, which I would never have come across anywhere else.

I knew Prince was Black the first time I saw him on tv in 1983 - dont understand the confusion!

YEP! We all come from the "Super Continent" called Botswanna Land.
Look it up!
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Reply #71 posted 07/22/07 11:20pm

Raze

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to me, he falls back on a latin sound when he can't think of anything else to do with a song. sorry, but it's true neutral 1999 The New Master, The Dance, Get On The Boat, Damned If I Do, etc.
"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #72 posted 07/23/07 12:27am

Riverpoet31

Contrary what many people here say, Prince parents werent both solely black.

In different welldocumented biographies it is stated that his father was half black / half philipinno, and his mother was half black / half italian, so that makes Prince: half black, quarter white and quarter asian. If you can say it that way... lol

Nonetheless, as a kid with mixed origins its not strange that Prince feels attracted to women of mixed origin.
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Reply #73 posted 07/23/07 12:57am

MajesticOne89

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PleasurePrinciple said:

Astasheiks said:



lol

Any brother that can grow his hair as long as he did during shoulder lenght times is mixed with something! lol razz lol
[Edited 7/18/07 18:33pm]

please you know how many brothers would have long nice hair...if they permed it.rolleyes


chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #74 posted 07/23/07 12:59am

KidaDynamite

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DAMN! People r sayin Prince is "Asian, Italian, Black, White, Spanish, etc, etc..." So Prince is like a big ole pot of creole stew, got a little of everything in him huh? eek And just like that stew I'll eat his little black, asian, italian,spanish,white ass up. biggrin mmmmm spicey! cooked giggle
surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #75 posted 07/23/07 7:27am

2elijah

Riverpoet31 said:

Contrary what many people here say, Prince parents werent both solely black.

In different welldocumented biographies it is stated that his father was half black / half philipinno, and his mother was half black / half italian, so that makes Prince: half black, quarter white and quarter asian. If you can say it that way... lol

Nonetheless, as a kid with mixed origins its not strange that Prince feels attracted to women of mixed origin.


^^Well now that sounds just like Black/African-Americans....we come in various flavors...milk chocolate, latte, spicy vanilla, mocha, chocolate, caramel, white chocolate, strawberry chocolate, dark chocolate, toffee, coffee, just to name a few.

..just ask these people below...they hold the recipe (roots) to all humans that exist in the human race, so breaking it down to 1/4 of this, 1/2 of that or 1/8th or 1/16th of the other to try and upgrade/breakdown the bloodline of another will just lead you right back to their very same roots of the human tree. biggrin

(!Kung people aka sans bushmen of the Kalahari desert in South Africa)

[Edited 7/23/07 11:10am]
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Reply #76 posted 07/23/07 9:52am

PleasurePrinci
ple

Riverpoet31 said:

Contrary what many people here say, Prince parents werent both solely black.

In different welldocumented biographies it is stated that his father was half black / half philipinno, and his mother was half black / half italian, so that makes Prince: half black, quarter white and quarter asian. If you can say it that way... lol

Nonetheless, as a kid with mixed origins its not strange that Prince feels attracted to women of mixed origin.

falloff definitely never heard that...doesnt make it false...just never heard that b4.And if that counts then Im everything you just listed 2.
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Reply #77 posted 07/23/07 12:22pm

myloveis4ever

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MajesticOne89 said:

PleasurePrinciple said:


please you know how many brothers would have long nice hair...if they permed it.rolleyes




once thing 4 sure he likes the latino culture.....

Appolonia
Vanity 6
Sheila E
MARTIKA
Jill JONES
TAJA savelle.
Mani
MAYTE
Selma hayek
MORRIS Day
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Reply #78 posted 07/23/07 12:36pm

Riverpoet31

Wonders why some 'black' people seem to feel the need to drag Prince into some 'afrocentrical camp'????

I mean: especially in the beginning i did admire Prince for standing above that kind of unnecesarilly smallmindness (listen to the lyrics of Uptown, look at the Revolution, listen to the music of Parade),

IMO he lost a lot of that credibility when he went into 'whining' about slavery and racial issues too much on albums like Exodus and The Rainbow Children.

Acting like a smallminded victim has never helped anyone, whether they are white, black, yellow or green.

I really cant identify with 'black' people who blame the 'white' people they are living with nowadays for the attrocities of the period of slavery. Thats in essence a NON-argument, like i should feel responsible for actions of some far, far away forefather?

I am who i am and i aint responsible for things my forefathers did. And the two main problems with the 'afro-centrican' movement IMO are: they are at first, racist, trying to give all white people a feeling of guilt, and second: they are acting from a negative, victim-like point of view.
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Reply #79 posted 07/23/07 1:09pm

2elijah

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Reply #80 posted 07/23/07 1:42pm

Flowerz

Riverpoet31 said:

Wonders why some 'black' people seem to feel the need to drag Prince into some 'afrocentrical camp'????

I mean: especially in the beginning i did admire Prince for standing above that kind of unnecesarilly smallmindness (listen to the lyrics of Uptown, look at the Revolution, listen to the music of Parade),

IMO he lost a lot of that credibility when he went into 'whining' about slavery and racial issues too much on albums like Exodus and The Rainbow Children.

Acting like a smallminded victim has never helped anyone, whether they are white, black, yellow or green.

I really cant identify with 'black' people who blame the 'white' people they are living with nowadays for the attrocities of the period of slavery. Thats in essence a NON-argument, like i should feel responsible for actions of some far, far away forefather?

I am who i am and i aint responsible for things my forefathers did. And the two main problems with the 'afro-centrican' movement IMO are: they are at first, racist, trying to give all white people a feeling of guilt, and second: they are acting from a negative, victim-like point of view.


Not to go there, but since it was brought up

No.. you can not relate to black ppl.. in that comment you said truly .. we are not addressing Caucasians for slavery and we're not even addressing all Caucasians, but racism is alive and breathing.. and until you can relate to that, it's silly of u to post stuff on a subject you know nothing about.. cause you havent walked in the 'other guy's shoes' to even understand to try to relate.. ive never had children.. would look foolish and very silly of me to try to give advice to mothers about child bearing & raising kids....(for the highlighted red).. as for that comment.. well u label a whole group of ppl for what a few do.. your whole post is nearly labelling and stereotyping ..so who's really smallminded here? all black ppl do NOT act as you posted
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Reply #81 posted 07/23/07 2:17pm

2elijah

Riverpoet31 said:

Wonders why some 'black' people seem to feel the need to drag Prince into some 'afrocentrical camp'????

I mean: especially in the beginning i did admire Prince for standing above that kind of unnecesarilly smallmindness (listen to the lyrics of Uptown, look at the Revolution, listen to the music of Parade),

IMO he lost a lot of that credibility when he went into 'whining' about slavery and racial issues too much on albums like Exodus and The Rainbow Children.

Acting like a smallminded victim has never helped anyone, whether they are white, black, yellow or green.

I really cant identify with 'black' people who blame the 'white' people they are living with nowadays for the attrocities of the period of slavery. Thats in essence a NON-argument, like i should feel responsible for actions of some far, far away forefather?

I am who i am and i aint responsible for things my forefathers did. And the two main problems with the 'afro-centrican' movement IMO are: they are at first, racist, trying to give all white people a feeling of guilt, and second: they are acting from a negative, victim-like point of view.


Guilt for what? Nothing to feel guilty about if you take the time to educate yourself about it. All it takes is a little understanding and to know that we're all part of the human race regardless of skin color. The only thing we could do is appreciate and respect each other more and do things a whole lot better than our forefathers did, and just make sure it doesn't happen again in this country.

It's important to remember the history of slavery because there are many Blacks/African Americans walking around with European names and you really don't think the generations of our children would never question why? We're the ones who have to explain their history to them and teach them how to live and exist in a still, racist society. I'm sorry if you have a problem relating to Black people/culture, but you are no different than any of them, you are part of the human race and come from the same human tree as we do, like it or not.

Humans are hurting humans within their own cultures and outside of it these days and it's very sad the reasons they are doing it, especially with all the religious wars going on all over the world. We hurt each other because we constantly divide each other by "skin color", some looking for all kinds of ways to find "superiority" within themselves by doing everything to degrade persons of color, by trying to deny as much "African/Black/Brown out of their own skins to say they are better...better than what? Gimme a break, we all come from the same human tree, unless you have some golden wings attached to your back, or can wave a wand and rid the earth of all it problems within a second. lol

I don't understand why people start threads regarding Prince's skin color, stating his "certain" choice of women, or fans wanting his parents to be less than Black as much as possible, so they won't feel guilty for either lusting after or being a fan of a Black man who happens to be a music genius or just trying to cause division between the African-American fans or simply put...just don't want Prince to be identified as "Black/African-American" period.

On another note, as far as Prince's choice of women, let's face it, Prince's choice of women is his personal business and whether she is Black, White, Latin, Asian or Green (no, not green--just kidding...lol ) doesn't make him disrespectful of his own race/culture. Besides, is it really any of our business what he does behind closed doors and with whom? Plain and simple ...no.
[Edited 7/23/07 19:25pm]
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Reply #82 posted 07/23/07 2:47pm

mene1948

The truth is in seeing.He just has a fancy for women that are beautiful,with an exotic,sensual look.They come in all nationalities.there is nothing wrong with that!
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Reply #83 posted 07/23/07 3:56pm

babynoz

2elijah don't even waste your breath. It's just another one of those overly opinionated individuals who have deluded themselves into thinking they know what's best for Prince better than he knows himself and anytime Prince gets too much into his identity, faith, etc. they have a problem with it. If only he would listen to them, see the error of his ways and repent everything would be okay. lol

How Prince chooses to identify himself racially, spiritually, musically or sexually will not be accepted unless it's on their terms.

Prince black??? Too terrible to comtemplate! lol

Their actions may not be the same, but the mentality of the colonizer and the slave master is there just the same.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #84 posted 07/23/07 4:34pm

2elijah

mene1948 said:

The truth is in seeing.He just has a fancy for women that are beautiful,with an exotic,sensual look.They come in all nationalities.there is nothing wrong with that!


Exactly.
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Reply #85 posted 07/23/07 4:35pm

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2elijah said:

mene1948 said:

The truth is in seeing.He just has a fancy for women that are beautiful,with an exotic,sensual look.They come in all nationalities.there is nothing wrong with that!


Exactly.


nod So do I. I'm attracted to the kind of men who are exotic to me. More exciting.
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Reply #86 posted 07/23/07 4:46pm

VonMarie

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Riverpoet31 said:

Wonders why some 'black' people seem to feel the need to drag Prince into some 'afrocentrical camp'????

I mean: especially in the beginning i did admire Prince for standing above that kind of unnecesarilly smallmindness (listen to the lyrics of Uptown, look at the Revolution, listen to the music of Parade),

IMO he lost a lot of that credibility when he went into 'whining' about slavery and racial issues too much on albums like Exodus and The Rainbow Children.

Acting like a smallminded victim has never helped anyone, whether they are white, black, yellow or green.

I really cant identify with 'black' people who blame the 'white' people they are living with nowadays for the attrocities of the period of slavery. Thats in essence a NON-argument, like i should feel responsible for actions of some far, far away forefather?

I am who i am and i aint responsible for things my forefathers did. And the two main problems with the 'afro-centrican' movement IMO are: they are at first, racist, trying to give all white people a feeling of guilt, and second: they are acting from a negative, victim-like point of view.
Spoken like a TRUE racist!!! Bravo!!!
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Reply #87 posted 07/23/07 4:49pm

2elijah

babynoz said:

2elijah don't even waste your breath. It's just another one of those overly opinionated individuals who have deluded themselves into thinking they know what's best for Prince better than he knows himself and anytime Prince gets too much into his identity, faith, etc. they have a problem with it. If only he would listen to them, see the error of his ways and repent everything would be okay. lol

How Prince chooses to identify himself racially, spiritually, musically or sexually will not be accepted unless it's on their terms.

Prince black??? Too terrible to comtemplate! lol

Their actions may not be the same, but the mentality of the colonizer and the slave master is there just the same.



BabyNoz, you're absolutely right, but as you can tell, I just love learning about other cultures;always been an interest of mine since I was a kid, anthropology being one of my favorite subjects among ancient african/egyptian history and others; so excuse me people if I get a little carried away with information I post to share lol

I guess it's because I was taught so many lies in school concerning our history and other cultures that when I started doing research on my own I was elated and love sharing the info with others, but this is the real world and I do live in a country where most are just not ready or accepting of that info, but I'm glad I and many others are open to learn about it.

Anyway, I just think it's so sad that in this day and time people are still trying to "breakdown" or "thinout" anything black when it comes to Prince as though being identified as "Black/African-American" is a sin. I am actually glad Prince stays silent on the subject as it's plain to see he knows who he is and doesn't have to explain that to anyone, thanks babnoz...hug
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Reply #88 posted 07/23/07 5:21pm

myloveis4ever

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VenusBlingBling said:

2elijah said:



Exactly.


nod So do I. I'm attracted to the kind of men who are exotic to me. More exciting.


exotic>>>>>

[b]Appolonia
Vanity 6
Sheila E
MARTIKA
Jill JONES
TAJA savelle.
Mani
MAYTE
Selma hayek
MORRIS Day
shit and PAULA ABDUL AND CARMEN ELEKTRA[/b].....
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Reply #89 posted 07/23/07 5:38pm

babynoz

2elijah said:

babynoz said:

2elijah don't even waste your breath. It's just another one of those overly opinionated individuals who have deluded themselves into thinking they know what's best for Prince better than he knows himself and anytime Prince gets too much into his identity, faith, etc. they have a problem with it. If only he would listen to them, see the error of his ways and repent everything would be okay. lol

How Prince chooses to identify himself racially, spiritually, musically or sexually will not be accepted unless it's on their terms.

Prince black??? Too terrible to comtemplate! lol

Their actions may not be the same, but the mentality of the colonizer and the slave master is there just the same.



BabyNoz, you're absolutely right, but as you can tell, I just love learning about other cultures;always been an interest of mine since I was a kid, anthropology being one of my favorite subjects among ancient african/egyptian history and others; so excuse me people if I get a little carried away with information I post to share lol

I guess it's because I was taught so many lies in school concerning our history and other cultures that when I started doing research on my own I was elated and love sharing the info with others, but this is the real world and I do live in a country where most are just not ready or accepting of that info, but I'm glad I and many others are open to learn about it.

Anyway, I just think it's so sad that in this day and time people are still trying to "breakdown" or "thinout" anything black when it comes to Prince as though being identified as "Black/African-American" is a sin. I am actually glad Prince stays silent on the subject as it's plain to see he knows who he is and doesn't have to explain that to anyone, thanks babnoz...hug
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I feel ya girl ... kudos to you for fighting the good fight. My Mom was deep into the history and culture of all peoples, especially indigenous cultures and I guess it rubbed off on me. She left me a wealth of resources that expose the centuries of lies propagated by a strictly Euro-centric worldview. The knowlege and wisdom of many of these so-called "uncivilized savages" is awe inspiring.

A people's right to self-identify is paramount and I just see it as extremely presumptious when Prince identifies himself as a black man and people try to label him otherwise.

As has been said, nearly every African American as well as many other black folks have another race in their bloodline including myself. It is not something unique to Prince. I just think people should accept and respect how someone chooses to identify themselves without qualification.

Prince has identified himself as a black, heterosexual Jehovah's Witness and he doesn't owe ANYBODY any explanations or apologies for it. Whoever don't like it...tough.

Back on topic, I see his interest in Latin culture as no different than my life long fascination with Egyptian/Nubian culture which I understand he also has a keen interest in. Besides, from what I've seen, when it comes to pretty ladies the brotha don't discriminate. lol
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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