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Reply #120 posted 06/29/07 6:48pm

DexterDayglo

MAN! U cant give nuthin away for free sigh
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Reply #121 posted 06/29/07 6:49pm

VonMarie

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BartVanHemelen said:

littlemissG said:

Increase his British fan base: sure this could definitely work.


By giving a free cd of mediocre pap to ignorant people?

Bart...What the FUCK are U so angry about??? mad
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Reply #122 posted 06/29/07 6:50pm

scandalousalan

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lspear76 said:

One Prince album isn't going to save the music "industry."

We don't know if it is "this Sunday" or not.

Please verify information before posting stuff.

I'm so sick of this.


dry your eyes lol
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Reply #123 posted 06/29/07 6:50pm

DexterDayglo

all i know is BartMan better take his knickers off b4 he twists his nuts off.
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Reply #124 posted 06/29/07 6:51pm

scandalousalan

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DexterDayglo said:

all i know is BartMan better take his knickers off b4 he twists his nuts off.

lol
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Reply #125 posted 06/29/07 7:51pm

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Prince has a VERY large fan base that will buy whatever he releases. This is what the recording and distribution industry are afraid of. He has full control of his career and music, and is setting a new standard of recording and distribution. He is truly showing artists today how they can be EMANCIPATED and free from the slavery (and its chains) of a record industry who cares about only the almighty DOLLAR, who leaves the artists and the fans without that which is God given; MUSIC!!!
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Reply #126 posted 06/29/07 8:07pm

promisekept

It is very interesting to note that for many years artists were "creatively strangled" by the record company executives with the A/R reps struggling to feed their families upon finding such creative artists.

In the end of that phase I the industry let alot of good A/R reps go and decided to band together to create even a more "creative stranglehold on artists" by signing to more stringent contracts... the only thing is...

The industry forgot that eventually if you strangle enough artists people get wise and learn to... become INDEPENDENT in their CREATIVITY to get out of the noose towards freedom...

With Mp3 and the newest technologies... artists are now becoming un-indebted to the record industry and breathing a scent of freedom like never before. The industry is trying very hard to figure out how to feed themselves, since they pretty much "screwed" themselves, pardon my language but true...

Well, KARMA comes around and artists are now becoming Free like they are supposed to be... having the ability to DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, SINCE it is THEIR RIGHT TO DO what they can do with their GOD GIVEN talent naturally!

Therefore, AMEN to creativity and the ideas that emerge from having the "Balls" to do what you want to do with YOUR creative Music so everybody can hear it around the world, even in a day!

So with that being said, DO WHAT YOU WANNA DO to let your spirit GET FREE with the talent you have.

I agree with what Prince is doing completely, not because people think I agree just because he is doing it but for the simple fact... HE SIMPLY IS BECAUSE HE CAN!


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Reply #127 posted 06/29/07 8:31pm

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I love this move....he tried to do it years ago with the Undertaker but WB wouldn't let him. The music industry is very corrupt and Prince is giving it the bitch slap it deserves...haha.
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Reply #128 posted 06/29/07 9:55pm

tollyc

I assume that all of the UK Prince Fams will post the new album on the peer to peer sites on Sunday.
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Reply #129 posted 06/29/07 10:18pm

christos7

tollyc said:

I assume that all of the UK Prince Fams will post the new album on the peer to peer sites on Sunday.



lol

pray
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Reply #130 posted 06/29/07 10:40pm

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New to the group so first HELLO all.

I am in the UK and I have to say I am seriously excited by this prospect. Personally I think it's a great move by Prince too. Musicology and 3121 didn't get to nearly that many in the UK and although Radio 1 talk about him from time to time they don't pick up his music to give it to the millions that listen to them. In fact so many people are completely unaware in the UK that Prince has even been making music for the last 10 years or so. This release, any associated publicity and the tour should inform a few people that not only is Prince still making music he is still HOT.

Love it!
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Reply #131 posted 06/29/07 10:51pm

Anxiety

i think this is a freakin brilliant idea.

these days, people can get free music via P2P, so instead of depending on retail sales that aren't happening anymore, prince got paid for 2 million copies bought by the newspaper to be distributed for free. this makes prince look like a good guy to music fans, and it gets him nice and paid. win/win.

he knows his albums don't sell to the general public the way they used to, so he has the "wiggle room" to experiment with his new studio releases and find new ways to get his music into people's hands. good for him.
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Reply #132 posted 06/29/07 10:55pm

funkycomic

well, the record stores act like they didnt benefit from his album sales in the past. he doesnt owe them anything, they got paid off of his 20 or so other albums, its his music..put it out there as he sees fit.
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Reply #133 posted 06/29/07 10:56pm

GangstaFam

Anxiety said:

i think this is a freakin brilliant idea.

these days, people can get free music via P2P, so instead of depending on retail sales that aren't happening anymore, prince got paid for 2 million copies bought by the newspaper to be distributed for free. this makes prince look like a good guy to music fans, and it gets him nice and paid. win/win.

he knows his albums don't sell to the general public the way they used to, so he has the "wiggle room" to experiment with his new studio releases and find new ways to get his music into people's hands. good for him.

I like it too. It wasn't necessarily the smartest move from a business standpoint, but when has he ever really followed the typical charts and graphs? If it gets people in the UK talking about him and puts asses in seats for those couple months, then the album has done its job.
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Reply #134 posted 06/29/07 11:00pm

Anxiety

GangstaFam said:

Anxiety said:

i think this is a freakin brilliant idea.

these days, people can get free music via P2P, so instead of depending on retail sales that aren't happening anymore, prince got paid for 2 million copies bought by the newspaper to be distributed for free. this makes prince look like a good guy to music fans, and it gets him nice and paid. win/win.

he knows his albums don't sell to the general public the way they used to, so he has the "wiggle room" to experiment with his new studio releases and find new ways to get his music into people's hands. good for him.

I like it too. It wasn't necessarily the smartest move from a business standpoint, but when has he ever really followed the typical charts and graphs? If it gets people in the UK talking about him and puts asses in seats for those couple months, then the album has done its job.


from a charts perspective, it may not be a great move. i think it's a much better business move, especially at this point in the game, than trying to sell a new album for $17.99 at borders. most people now are like "screw that, i'll go home and download it for free!" prince is getting some of that loss back with this deal, and beating the P2P crowd to their computers. i just wish it had been the chicago tribune instead!
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Reply #135 posted 06/29/07 11:04pm

GangstaFam

Anxiety said:

from a charts perspective, it may not be a great move. i think it's a much better business move, especially at this point in the game, than trying to sell a new album for $17.99 at borders. most people now are like "screw that, i'll go home and download it for free!" prince is getting some of that loss back with this deal, and beating the P2P crowd to their computers. i just wish it had been the chicago tribune instead!

Well, I know what you're saying from a financial standpoint. But if it's pissing off those in charge of his distrubution and music retailers, I can't see the positive aspects of that. He has a reputation for not playing friendly with suits, so this isn't exactly a new thing. But the friends that he'll lose at Virgin Megastore or Sony probably won't add up to the fans he'll reach with this current phase of his career in the UK. So I'm guessing that you're right...this will be a win/win situation in the longrun.
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Reply #136 posted 06/29/07 11:06pm

Sdldawn

i'm assuming its this sunday?
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Reply #137 posted 06/29/07 11:13pm

Anxiety

GangstaFam said:

Anxiety said:

from a charts perspective, it may not be a great move. i think it's a much better business move, especially at this point in the game, than trying to sell a new album for $17.99 at borders. most people now are like "screw that, i'll go home and download it for free!" prince is getting some of that loss back with this deal, and beating the P2P crowd to their computers. i just wish it had been the chicago tribune instead!

Well, I know what you're saying from a financial standpoint. But if it's pissing off those in charge of his distrubution and music retailers, I can't see the positive aspects of that. He has a reputation for not playing friendly with suits, so this isn't exactly a new thing. But the friends that he'll lose at Virgin Megastore or Sony probably won't add up to the fans he'll reach with this current phase of his career in the UK. So I'm guessing that you're right...this will be a win/win situation in the longrun.


Yeah, he does seem to be burning bridges with retail on this decision, but that makes me think...we saw Tower close down last year...we're seeing the Virgin Megastores chain close down as we speak...Coconuts is gone...Best Buy is cutting back their music selections...really, the only wrecka stows surviving right now are the independent specialty shops, and the people who keep those stores open right now aren't gonna go to Footlight Records, Other Music or Reckless in search of the new Prince CD. A big chunk of his retail audience got turned away when the Towers and Virgins locked their doors, and the rest of em are already wise to the fact that they don't have to pay $20 for a 10 song CD at Barnes & Noble.

I think he's doing a less interesting version of what NIN did with "Year Zero" - that album was pretty much distributed for free at first, though fans had to jump through some hoops to get it (which ultimately led to them enjoying a multimedia experience related to the album content). Prince can't sell 'em like he used to, and even if he could, the retail music industry is in a scary place right now. Oddly, I think this could be a great time to be an indie artist.
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Reply #138 posted 06/29/07 11:19pm

GangstaFam

Anxiety said:

Yeah, he does seem to be burning bridges with retail on this decision, but that makes me think...we saw Tower close down last year...we're seeing the Virgin Megastores chain close down as we speak...Coconuts is gone...Best Buy is cutting back their music selections...really, the only wrecka stows surviving right now are the independent specialty shops, and the people who keep those stores open right now aren't gonna go to Footlight Records, Other Music or Reckless in search of the new Prince CD. A big chunk of his retail audience got turned away when the Towers and Virgins locked their doors, and the rest of em are already wise to the fact that they don't have to pay $20 for a 10 song CD at Barnes & Noble.

I think he's doing a less interesting version of what NIN did with "Year Zero" - that album was pretty much distributed for free at first, though fans had to jump through some hoops to get it (which ultimately led to them enjoying a multimedia experience related to the album content). Prince can't sell 'em like he used to, and even if he could, the retail music industry is in a scary place right now. Oddly, I think this could be a great time to be an indie artist.

Prince definitely likes to straddle that indie line. nod

I think that the things that hurt him in the 90's are the same things that will sustain him in a historical sense as a pioneer at the forefront of technology, distribution and marketing. I like it when Princey takes risks. This is an unexpected one, but he seems to actually have a plan right now.
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Reply #139 posted 06/30/07 12:00am

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I haven't kept up with this thread, but USA Today is saying that it's THIS WEEKEND'S edition of this UK paper???? eek
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Reply #140 posted 06/30/07 12:01am

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Sdldawn said:

i'm assuming its this sunday?




according to USA Today it is. wow! woot!
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Reply #141 posted 06/30/07 12:02am

GangstaFam

Raze said:

Sdldawn said:

i'm assuming its this sunday?




according to USA Today it is. wow! woot!

bring it on! yay!
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Reply #142 posted 06/30/07 12:06am

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"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #143 posted 06/30/07 12:08am

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you realize this means we'll have the "leak" by midnight, eastern time? woot!
"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #144 posted 06/30/07 12:18am

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Reply #145 posted 06/30/07 2:10am

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I just hope he`s making the right move here---Maybe next time he can stop them wankers at ticketmaster auctioning tickets
EVEN IN THE SUMMER TIME
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Reply #146 posted 06/30/07 2:18am

leecaldon

This shows, without a doubt, that Prince is on the cutting edge of music distribution experimentation. After the Musicology giveaways, he's upped the ante.

By Sunday evening, 2 million homes in the will own a Prince CD. Have any of his albums sold 2 million? Then add the 400,000 on from the O2 shows, and he's seriously spreading the music. Planet Earth could be in 5%+ of the counntry's homes.

Free the music? Yep, he's done it.
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Reply #147 posted 06/30/07 2:28am

HollywoodSt

If you click through the pages on the Daily Mail's Prince mini site - the last page actually says get the mail on sunday this week to find out how you can get Planet Earth for free.

????
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Reply #148 posted 06/30/07 2:41am

leecaldon

BartVanHemelen said:

Remember when Prince did concerts that didn't cost an arm and a leg? Remember when Prince liked playing live?


Hmm, yeah I remember that. Those were the days, well, about 5 mins ago when I purchased a ticket for about £35 in the lower tier of the 02 Arena - cheaper than any other major act playing there.

Prince doesn't like playing live? He sure plays live A LOT for someone who doesn't enjoy it. Nobody's making him do all these shows, and aftershows.
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Reply #149 posted 06/30/07 2:46am

CAMERANEWS

yeah big slap to you ERA mafia bastards...did u threaten our boy too??? why you, bitchfight bitchfight finger3 finger
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