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Reply #90 posted 02/18/06 11:28am

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IM SO EXITED!!!!! lol

ohh, 1 whole month.....

oh so long away, i cant wait, all the tracks sound like their going to be great, i mean, its unlikely even it did turn out to be poor, that id hate it, cos grafity bridge is my fav album!!! so im hardly gonna hate this, am i!!!

anyway, its gonna rock!!!!!whoo!!! cant wait!!! biggrin biggrin cool lol wink
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Reply #91 posted 02/18/06 11:43am

ian

Disappointing to hear about Fury, but not all that surprising either. It's like Endorphinmachine all over again!
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Reply #92 posted 02/18/06 11:45am

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NewFunk said:

Alexandernvrmind said:



There’s no obvious bible-bashing or preaching ==> you mean like on Lovesexy or saying the Lords Prayer word for word during Controversy. You people are so mixed up you don't even realized that Price has been preaching the gospel for 30 years in his music. Its the music that is different here not the messages!!! Price has been singing about salvation and all those this revolving around that for his entire career. Lord people in this forum are so damn confused...let alone dense


Don't get your knickers in a twist. P did indeed embrace religion and spirituality in the past, I totally agree. *** But it was always balanced with an appreciation of the carnal and the sensual***

The last few releases prior to 3121, however, include preaching that's certainly more agressive ... and without a sensual/corporal aspect to counteract it. Surely you can see that?

Are you saying that Prince sounds horny again? lol
"I'll be the first one to admit that I am many things, but one thing I am not is ungrateful...thank you..." - Prince
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Reply #93 posted 02/18/06 11:59am

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newskin69 said:

I love Musicology, but it wasnt terribly original and it left me thinking that maybe it was made to catch the attention of those who werent fans

With 3121, it seems like the good reception over Musicology gave him the confidence and the stamina to make an even better album.


- Agreed!
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Reply #94 posted 02/18/06 12:07pm

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ian said:

Disappointing to hear about Fury, but not all that surprising either. It's like Endorphinmachine all over again!
[Edited 2/18/06 11:44am]


Fury is fierce and catchy. The guitar work is amazing. Trust me. Now cowbells on this one, do not worry! I mean, can a song recorded in the studio ever sound as energetic as a studio cut? No way! But Fury is tremendous!
We Can Funk
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Reply #95 posted 02/18/06 12:22pm

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What's all this about "return". The man "returned" in 2004. Doesn't anyone remember?

"After several failed attempts at re-launching his career in recent years, "

I don't know what this is supposed to mean ?. He really has been on the come back trial since the ONA tour.
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Reply #96 posted 02/18/06 12:25pm

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Alexandernvrmind said:

homeandmantel said:




Yea right, you dont seem to see the diffrence between subltle, and "TRC"

i dont think anobody is against religion or sprituality, but, its diffrent when they come knocking at your door sort of speak


I guess we agree to disagree because I just don't think there is anything subtle about the lyrics to Anna Stesia, I No, and saying the Lords Prayer (which is directly from the bible apparently many of you don't even know this) is subtle and that only to name a couple of examples. I could go into God or the Power Fantastic...its always been there and in your face. Its been the music that hasn't been up to snuff there by making it more noticecable and a turn off. Goodness I Would Die 4 U clearly a song about Jesus yet the music and lyric is so strong those that are non-believers didn't even notice or care to
[Edited 2/17/06 18:27pm]

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Non-believers don't know what they are hearing. P made more references to Jesus during the Lovesexy period then during the whole JW period. They hear what they want to hear.
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Reply #97 posted 02/18/06 12:33pm

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It's amazing what my feelings about this album have been. At first, I was less excited about this album than any new Prince release. Maybe I've just aged, or maybe I just feared another merely pleasant release. Although I like it, "Te Amo Corazon" didn't blow me away the way "Musicology" did. But having heard "Black Sweat", "Beautiful, Loved and Blessed" and especially "Fury", my interest is peaked! I haven't been this excited about a Prince album since The Gold Experience.

Thank you so much for the reviews. It will be hard to wait a month for this!
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Reply #98 posted 02/18/06 12:36pm

brothaluv

True fans are like family and want only the best for the artist. I think that's the case here. Most of us really hope this album kicks butt. Why? Because we love the little guy and God knows he deserves it!
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Reply #99 posted 02/18/06 12:41pm

Byron

laurarichardson said:

Alexandernvrmind said:



I guess we agree to disagree because I just don't think there is anything subtle about the lyrics to Anna Stesia, I No, and saying the Lords Prayer (which is directly from the bible apparently many of you don't even know this) is subtle and that only to name a couple of examples. I could go into God or the Power Fantastic...its always been there and in your face. Its been the music that hasn't been up to snuff there by making it more noticecable and a turn off. Goodness I Would Die 4 U clearly a song about Jesus yet the music and lyric is so strong those that are non-believers didn't even notice or care to
[Edited 2/17/06 18:27pm]

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Non-believers don't know what they are hearing. P made more references to Jesus during the Lovesexy period then during the whole JW period. They hear what they want to hear.

It's not about mere "references to Jesus"...it's about a tone that comes across as he talks about his spiritual, religious and life beliefs. For most of his career, Prince was able to convey what he believed as though he wanted everyone to understand those beliefs better, not as though he wanted everyone else to know what was wrong with theirs. For a few years there, however, that tone started to seep into his delivery of his more spiritual lyrics. Unfortunately it led some listeners to jump down his throat on everything he sung about, even if there was absolutely nothing there to criticize.
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Reply #100 posted 02/18/06 1:08pm

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laurarichardson said:

Alexandernvrmind said:



I guess we agree to disagree because I just don't think there is anything subtle about the lyrics to Anna Stesia, I No, and saying the Lords Prayer (which is directly from the bible apparently many of you don't even know this) is subtle and that only to name a couple of examples. I could go into God or the Power Fantastic...its always been there and in your face. Its been the music that hasn't been up to snuff there by making it more noticecable and a turn off. Goodness I Would Die 4 U clearly a song about Jesus yet the music and lyric is so strong those that are non-believers didn't even notice or care to
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Non-believers don't know what they are hearing. P made more references to Jesus during the Lovesexy period then during the whole JW period. They hear what they want to hear.


And people are asking is P still JW?? Heard that some songs off 3121 are a little racier and those twins aren't exactly dressed in layers of clothing.....

interesting????
[Edited 2/18/06 13:09pm]
"Paisley Park is in your Heart"
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Reply #101 posted 02/18/06 1:50pm

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Papaj said:



Fury is fierce and catchy. The guitar work is amazing. Trust me. Now cowbells on this one, do not worry! I mean, can a song recorded in the studio ever sound as energetic as a studio cut? No way! But Fury is tremendous!


- Yes, ´Fury´ is a lot catchier than the Endorphinemachine...but I must say that heavy keyboards on a rock song are less good than cowbells. Good rock and roll is usually raw, and keyboards usually make it overproduced or ´pop´. But I like ´Fury´ so much that I will dig it anyway. smile
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Reply #102 posted 02/18/06 3:08pm

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YES , The way is getting good I hope it will a HIT LP
not like other good prince LP .
See I loved Prince music since 1984 with the very good LP
PR but it is sad thing to see at EU prince fan are few
even at Ivory Coast many hate the Prince but a simple
hit will stop them .
who said PRINCE is off he is wrong many people know
that who is the Prince they may love or hate him but
yet all know that U can not be be famous at national and
International levels in easy way . look at RAP or heavy Metal singers they
tend make only 2 good LP and after we do not know if
they are alive or dead !!! add to that the USA 2004 Tour
shut the mouth of those hate the Prince ! so what else
he can do ?! we are not in 1984 now is the era of
electronic music so we can not ask our prince to be the
best in pop music !! OK he can be a superstar .
as 4 me with this LP or without he put a big music
resources 4 the whole world with than 1000 + Songs that
U all did not hear yet ! it is for the Prince fan .
so he never run out of very best ideas the trouble is
the LP marketings even Purple Rain did get a very
best marketing .
Madona and MJ marketing do them well due 2 the fact that most of thier
LP 4 me is not the very best in market in that time !!
Madona and MJ video were very easy to get in the third
world but as 4 Prince it was only PR video + one live Video
from 1984 till 1990 ! so he must put that very good video out
he must be in more contact with Media not setting on
his website on Internet and puttin LP and video that we at the Third
world will not get !!
is not true that great LP will be HIT as Bob Marley !

this is the core problem with the Prince .
OK he also was not in good contacts with the world
media ! but now let us see what will take place
on 21 March .
LOVE
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Reply #103 posted 02/18/06 3:22pm

homeandmantel

laurarichardson said:

Alexandernvrmind said:



I guess we agree to disagree because I just don't think there is anything subtle about the lyrics to Anna Stesia, I No, and saying the Lords Prayer (which is directly from the bible apparently many of you don't even know this) is subtle and that only to name a couple of examples. I could go into God or the Power Fantastic...its always been there and in your face. Its been the music that hasn't been up to snuff there by making it more noticecable and a turn off. Goodness I Would Die 4 U clearly a song about Jesus yet the music and lyric is so strong those that are non-believers didn't even notice or care to
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Non-believers don't know what they are hearing. P made more references to Jesus during the Lovesexy period then during the whole JW period. They hear what they want to hear.



LOL, its not that we didn't hear it, i heard it and i loved it.
it’s that it was more subtle,
Look up subtle in the dictionary.
[Edited 2/18/06 15:24pm]
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Reply #104 posted 02/18/06 5:12pm

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mattosgood said:

love the irony of the bit about Prince 'Sounding similar to Pharrell Williams' - so glad the Sun has reporters/reviewing which have such an in depth music knowledge!



I know, right? rolleyes

And the Mirror wrote that the first single was Black Sweat, and Te Amo "is certain to put him back at the top of the charts." Umm evidently not, since TAC was released in December and it doesn't appear that they'd even heard it 'til the listening party.

I do better fact checking for my own posts than some of these 'journalists'!! lol


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The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #105 posted 02/18/06 5:27pm

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Militant and NewFunk, thanks so much for sharing your reviews. Question for you both: what are your other favorite Prince albums? Since you are both giving 3121 rave reviews, saying that it's the best he's done in years, etc., I would like to know what other albums gave you the sort of same feeling/excitment? Not that the style of songs is the same, necessarily, but more to give a frame of reference or context for your enthusiam.

Militant, you said it was your favorite since Lovesexy and NewFunk, you said you didn't really dig Musicology---how did you both feel about Gold & TRC? (Since a lot of people often cite those two albums as recent examples of better-than-average Prince albums.)


Thanks.
cool


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The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #106 posted 02/18/06 5:36pm

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jone70 said:

Militant and NewFunk, thanks so much for sharing your reviews. Question for you both: what are your other favorite Prince albums? Since you are both giving 3121 rave reviews, saying that it's the best he's done in years, etc., I would like to know what other albums gave you the sort of same feeling/excitment? Not that the style of songs is the same, necessarily, but more to give a frame of reference or context for your enthusiam.

Militant, you said it was your favorite since Lovesexy... How did you feel about Gold & TRC? (Since a lot of people on this thread have mentioned those as recent examples of better than average Prince albums.)


Thanks.
cool


Gold I felt had its strong moments, but I also felt it was very overproduced and lacking a certain punch. I'll admit - I haven't heard the whole of TRC, but I've heard a good chunk of it and to me he just didnt sound hungry on it, and it was a bit too jazzy for my liking....not enough raw FUNK!

My favorite albums? Dirty Mind, 1999, Sign O The Times, Lovesexy...and 3121.
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Reply #107 posted 02/18/06 5:48pm

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Militant said:

jone70 said:

Militant and NewFunk, thanks so much for sharing your reviews. Question for you both: what are your other favorite Prince albums? Since you are both giving 3121 rave reviews, saying that it's the best he's done in years, etc., I would like to know what other albums gave you the sort of same feeling/excitment? Not that the style of songs is the same, necessarily, but more to give a frame of reference or context for your enthusiam.

Militant, you said it was your favorite since Lovesexy... How did you feel about Gold & TRC? (Since a lot of people on this thread have mentioned those as recent examples of better than average Prince albums.)


Thanks.
cool


Gold I felt had its strong moments, but I also felt it was very overproduced and lacking a certain punch. I'll admit - I haven't heard the whole of TRC, but I've heard a good chunk of it and to me he just didnt sound hungry on it, and it was a bit too jazzy for my liking....not enough raw FUNK!

My favorite albums? Dirty Mind, 1999, Sign O The Times, Lovesexy...and 3121.


Very cool...then I'm still officially excited! cool
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #108 posted 02/18/06 6:03pm

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brothaluv said:

True fans are like family and want only the best for the artist. I think that's the case here. Most of us really hope this album kicks butt. Why? Because we love the little guy and God knows he deserves it!

Couldn't have said it any better than that! highfive
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #109 posted 02/18/06 7:14pm

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Sounding similar to Pharrell Williams



am I the only one that thinks that is an insult? Pharrell is the one trying to sound like Prince for christs sake.
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Reply #110 posted 02/18/06 7:56pm

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brothaluv said:

True fans are like family and want only the best for the artist. I think that's the case here. Most of us really hope this album kicks butt. Why? Because we love the little guy and God knows he deserves it!

brothaluv u speak beautiful words i want so much 4 this cd 2 be all it can b and then some. I want him 2 get album of the year.pray I want this 2 be even better or equal 2 2004. I know this is a hard act 2 follow but if all goes well it will happen. I know if U2 can win album of the year P should have no problem if its as good as people r saying. Hopefully it get the proper promotion it so deserves. P is over due. I can't wait 4 3.21 2 come so i can be waiting when the doors of Best Buy opens. Much love 2 P and 3121
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Reply #111 posted 02/18/06 7:58pm

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Again, the tracks are LOVE not love is forever, and INCENSE not I'm want it all nite long.

missing is THE WORD (get up now lets do something...)

all a fair assesment of the l
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Reply #112 posted 02/18/06 8:48pm

Fauxie

BobbyPin said:

Again, the tracks are LOVE not love is forever, and INCENSE not I'm want it all nite long.

missing is THE WORD (get up now lets do something...)

all a fair assesment of the l
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Where did you get this info?

'The Word' is another track on the album?
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Reply #113 posted 02/18/06 8:52pm

Fauxie

jone70 said:

Militant and NewFunk, thanks so much for sharing your reviews. Question for you both: what are your other favorite Prince albums? Since you are both giving 3121 rave reviews, saying that it's the best he's done in years, etc., I would like to know what other albums gave you the sort of same feeling/excitment? Not that the style of songs is the same, necessarily, but more to give a frame of reference or context for your enthusiam.

Militant, you said it was your favorite since Lovesexy and NewFunk, you said you didn't really dig Musicology---how did you both feel about Gold & TRC? (Since a lot of people often cite those two albums as recent examples of better-than-average Prince albums.)


Thanks.
cool


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You asked for what I kept meaning to for the last couple of days - some reference points for the review.

For me, I loved TRC. That was an album I'd been waiting for. I love the live drums, funky bass playing and less electronic feel. Musicology I see as a nice enough album with some good songs, but I'd definitely be hoping 3121 is more TRC than Musicology, but something between the two would also be welcome.

I'll be excited just so long as neither of these reviewers starts professing a love for Emancipation or NPS. lol
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Reply #114 posted 02/18/06 8:57pm

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homeandmantel said:

laurarichardson said:


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Non-believers don't know what they are hearing. P made more references to Jesus during the Lovesexy period then during the whole JW period. They hear what they want to hear.



LOL, its not that we didn't hear it, i heard it and i loved it.
it’s that it was more subtle,
Look up subtle in the dictionary.
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[Edited 2/18/06 15:27pm]


I stand by what I said. It is the music and quality of much of it that has changed. The message has generally been the same Party, Love God, & Love Sex. The Cross is about as subtle as Gett Off. How many frigin songs to I have to run off. The guy has been pushing the good word for sometime..you don't care when it has a nice guitar solo, a catchy keyboard synth, or funky beat attached to it. Its as simple as that. What P talked about on TRC was nothing new..it was no different than Lovesexy.
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Reply #115 posted 02/18/06 8:57pm

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Thanks for the review. I'm pumped!
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #116 posted 02/18/06 9:01pm

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I thought Beautiful, Loved and Blessed was the name of Tamar's new album coming out in May. How does that end up on Prince's new album? I might have missed this in numerous threads....
cracknbush
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Reply #117 posted 02/18/06 9:35pm

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O.K.! Think all of us Prince fams know what we need to do! Ain't nobody said it yet, but I will... All of us need to purchase the CD the day it's released(3/21)..

Anyone who is truely a fam knows that this absolute musical genius has provided us with the soundtrack of our lives. From the reviews that I have heard, the cd is da bomb, and is probably da bomb we all been waitin' for...so let's put him on top where he has been to us always so the others can experience real music and artistry. Ask yourself...where is the real music today? Most of it is bs. Let's make dude number one. He deserves it. Ain't no other male artist done nothin' like this for music before. Not like him.
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Reply #118 posted 02/18/06 10:58pm

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scottgcoleman said:

O.K.! Think all of us Prince fams know what we need to do! Ain't nobody said it yet, but I will... All of us need to purchase the CD the day it's released(3/21)..

Anyone who is truely a fam knows that this absolute musical genius has provided us with the soundtrack of our lives. From the reviews that I have heard, the cd is da bomb, and is probably da bomb we all been waitin' for...so let's put him on top where he has been to us always so the others can experience real music and artistry. Ask yourself...where is the real music today? Most of it is bs. Let's make dude number one. He deserves it. Ain't no other male artist done nothin' like this for music before. Not like him.
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AMEN TO THAT!!!!! Comparing current "pop artists" to Prince is laughable..it's almost like bringing out the Muppets. Hip Hop/Rap artists are freefalling into cheez whiz -- it's like the monster rock that mushroomed in the 80's with the hair bands. Listen to the lyrics, the beats today -- stick a xylophone and a mic in front of a toddler, start a loop and you've got the same result. Sampling from the past (postmodernism) and further deconstructionalism was original for a time, now it's overboard. I'm 32 years old, I feel sorry for younger folks -- and this isn't the missed nostalgia of the past, that argument doesn't hold in the face of a mass untapped audience who's looking for decent music, being uptempo, exciting, positive, energetic.

If Prince pulls this off...if there are landmark songs, reinvention, etc. I personally feel he's will have gone further careerwise than any known professional mainstream pop artist. I'm saying he may be headed for a second peak.
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Reply #119 posted 02/19/06 12:36am

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Thanks for the review. cool While you were there, was any information given out about the tour? That's what I'm most concerned about right now! nod
"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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