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Thread started 03/13/05 2:45pm

sitruk7

Do you want Prince to use swear words again? If so,why?

I'm not talking about performing old classics live in concert again. The "real" version of Housequake is a prime example of a song with swear words that I'd love to hear again.Not that funky instrumental he inserts from time to time.That's cool but not the same as the "real" deal to me.

I'm talking about new music.For me, I don't feel that Prince needs to cuss.The spiritual/philosophical Prince is just as interesting as the sexual rebel Prince. Don't get me wrong,I'm not encouraging lyrics like "we don't give a duck". To me that's just silly but,it's his song, not mine.

I've notice that quite a few people here would break out in tears of joy if Prince stepped to the stage, said "Oww-ah","fuck" and "good night" and went home.He'd get a 10 minute standing ovation from some of ya'll.Hey,if that's what makes you happy, that's what makes you happy.

How important is Prince's use of foul language to you?
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Reply #1 posted 03/13/05 2:46pm

PurpleKnight

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I just want him to feel like he can, and not refuse to swear cause of religious reasons.
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Reply #2 posted 03/13/05 2:48pm

Handclapsfinga
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no.
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Reply #3 posted 03/13/05 2:55pm

sitruk7

PurpleKnight said:

I just want him to feel like he can, and not refuse to swear cause of religious reasons.

I hear what your saying but what if he wants to stop swearing for religious reasons rather than feeling he has to? What I mean is, what if Prince feels a conviction in his soul about it rather than Larry Graham or whomever saying"You can't say 'I wanna fuck the taste out of your mouth',Baby Brother!"?
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Reply #4 posted 03/13/05 3:22pm

doctamario

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If the need arises, then do it.
Don't hurt me, I'm a newb. I'm supposed to be stupid.
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Reply #5 posted 03/13/05 3:57pm

skywalker

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Depends on the context-if he is singing "Erotic City" I don't wanna hear "hump until the dawn, duck until the dawn, bump until the dawn,etc." However, I don't want the man droppin' f-bombs just to drop em.
"New Power slide...."
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Reply #6 posted 03/13/05 6:03pm

carrynobanners

if it means prince is controversial again, yes! but that's what he was all about then, doesn't seem like Prince now. make sense? doesn't to me either
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Reply #7 posted 03/13/05 6:10pm

EvilWhiteMale

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I was never a fan of his excessive cursing like in Days of Wild, but few strong words here and there were fine.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

Al Pacino- Scarface
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Reply #8 posted 03/13/05 7:28pm

Housequake2K2

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skywalker said:

Depends on the context-if he is singing "Erotic City" I don't wanna hear "hump until the dawn, duck until the dawn, bump until the dawn,etc." However, I don't want the man droppin' f-bombs just to drop em.


Hump until the dawn...
lol That would be funny, but it doesn't sound right.
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Reply #9 posted 03/13/05 7:44pm

vainandy

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Do I want Prince to use cuss words again....well, fuck yeah! Why....for the sheer hell of it.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #10 posted 03/13/05 8:17pm

sosgemini

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i like when artist are given limitations..it causes the creative juices to flow....
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Reply #11 posted 03/13/05 11:00pm

TonyVanDam

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sitruk7 said:

I'm not talking about performing old classics live in concert again. The "real" version of Housequake is a prime example of a song with swear words that I'd love to hear again.Not that funky instrumental he inserts from time to time.That's cool but not the same as the "real" deal to me.

I'm talking about new music.For me, I don't feel that Prince needs to cuss.The spiritual/philosophical Prince is just as interesting as the sexual rebel Prince. Don't get me wrong,I'm not encouraging lyrics like "we don't give a duck". To me that's just silly but,it's his song, not mine.

I've notice that quite a few people here would break out in tears of joy if Prince stepped to the stage, said "Oww-ah","fuck" and "good night" and went home.He'd get a 10 minute standing ovation from some of ya'll.Hey,if that's what makes you happy, that's what makes you happy.

How important is Prince's use of foul language to you?


He can use "damn" & "hell" if he's being political (like calling out that son of the Bush for screwing up!!!).
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Reply #12 posted 03/13/05 11:03pm

TonyVanDam

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Prince can also use "jackass" if he's dissing the WB Music Group or speaking out against rap artists for their negativity. cool
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Reply #13 posted 03/14/05 12:21am

muirdo

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It doesnt bother me.Making his shows more family orientated was a clever ploy to get more folks to his shows,his language back in the day was probably just another element to his "shock" factor.Besides now it would really just be unneccesary.If i want to hear him cuss i'll just go and stick on Days of Wild.

How many of you had this conversation?

"who do you like"
"Prince"
"isnt he gay?"
"dont think so!"
"i dont like him"
"he swears in his songs"
"really???" (look of interest on face) lol
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
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Reply #14 posted 03/14/05 1:14am

Gav

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I can't see a need for gratuitous swearing on any new material, however I do feel a little frustrated about this "changing lyrics" stuff.

On one hand, he's boasting about being succesful with a "hits" tour, however on the other he's changing lyrics, and even meaning of songs sometimes becuase of his new beliefs.

I feel he either needs to turn his back on the past or leave the past as it is and play the songs with their original meaning and lyrics - one or the other.
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Reply #15 posted 03/14/05 1:16am

muirdo

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Gav said:

I can't see a need for gratuitous swearing on any new material, however I do feela little frustrated about this "changing lyrics" stuff.

On one hand, he's boasting about being succesful with a "hits" tour, however on the other he's changing lyrics, and even meaning of songs sometimes becuase of his new beliefs.

I feel he either needs to turn his back on the past or leave the past as it is and play the songs with their original meaning and lyrics - one or the other.


surely his biggest crime being The Cross/Christ?
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
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Reply #16 posted 03/14/05 1:33am

missmad

NO, I do not, this is Prince now: He can not please everyone, all he has 2 please is his soul, his wife, the other people he loves unconditionally and OUR Creator.
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Reply #17 posted 03/14/05 1:38am

freakyfeet

missmad said:

and OUR Creator.


cop

Fam turned JW alert

cop
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Reply #18 posted 03/14/05 1:52am

Mr7

Gav said:

I can't see a need for gratuitous swearing on any new material, however I do feel a little frustrated about this "changing lyrics" stuff.

On one hand, he's boasting about being succesful with a "hits" tour, however on the other he's changing lyrics, and even meaning of songs sometimes becuase of his new beliefs.

I feel he either needs to turn his back on the past or leave the past as it is and play the songs with their original meaning and lyrics - one or the other.


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He's 'boasting' about a succesful 'Hits' tour because his tour was the highest grossing tour last year.

That is fact, not conjecture.

The lyric alterations were minimal. They are his songs to do whatever he likes with. If people had been that bothered by these 'alterations' the tour would not have been such a massive hit.

I would certainly rather see Prince live with or without altered lyrics, than purchase over-priced, inflated 'fanzine' publications with numerous mistakes and pages missing. wink

Mr7
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Reply #19 posted 03/14/05 2:13am

freakyfeet

Mr7 said:

I would certainly rather see Prince live with or without altered lyrics, than purchase over-priced, inflated 'fanzine' publications with numerous mistakes and pages missing wink


lol
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Reply #20 posted 03/14/05 2:18am

Gav

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Mr7 said:

He's 'boasting' about a succesful 'Hits' tour because his tour was the highest grossing tour last year.

That is fact, not conjecture.



I used the phrase "I feel", thus highlighting it was merely my personal opinion. I never attempted to pass this off as a fact.

Is this another example of org members being unallowed to express an opinion? wink

The lyric alterations were minimal. They are his songs to do whatever he likes with. If people had been that bothered by these 'alterations' the tour would not have been such a massive hit.


Again, I was merely giving my own opinon. Robbie Williams has had massive hits, it doesn't necessarily mean I should personally like them just becuase they're succesful.

If the size of the tour was what purely makes people follow a musician then we'd all have become Michael Jackson fans years ago.


I would certainly rather see Prince live with or without altered lyrics, than purchase over-priced, inflated 'fanzine' publications with numerous mistakes and pages missing. wink


Again, your personal opinion and you're entitled to it wink
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Reply #21 posted 03/14/05 2:19am

MetroArea

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Gav said:

I can't see a need for gratuitous swearing on any new material, however I do feel a little frustrated about this "changing lyrics" stuff.



Spot on.
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Reply #22 posted 03/14/05 2:43am

Gav

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muirdo said:

Gav said:

I can't see a need for gratuitous swearing on any new material, however I do feela little frustrated about this "changing lyrics" stuff.

On one hand, he's boasting about being succesful with a "hits" tour, however on the other he's changing lyrics, and even meaning of songs sometimes becuase of his new beliefs.

I feel he either needs to turn his back on the past or leave the past as it is and play the songs with their original meaning and lyrics - one or the other.


surely his biggest crime being The Cross/Christ?


"crime" is probably a tad harsh but yes muirdo, that was an example of changing the meaning of the song over something like "back when dick was bumpin' liz"
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Reply #23 posted 03/14/05 3:22am

Heiress

Housequake2K2 said:

skywalker said:

Depends on the context-if he is singing "Erotic City" I don't wanna hear "hump until the dawn, duck until the dawn, bump until the dawn,etc." However, I don't want the man droppin' f-bombs just to drop em.


Hump until the dawn...
lol That would be funny, but it doesn't sound right.


Wasn't it "funk until the dawn?" hmmm
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Reply #24 posted 03/14/05 6:55am

LittleLamb

PurpleKnight said:

I just want him to feel like he can, and not refuse to swear cause of religious reasons.



I agree.

Besides, Prince is a walking swear word
"The poets are demanding their pay..."


"I'm a radio
I'm a country station
I'm a little bit corny
I'm a wildwood flower..."
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Reply #25 posted 03/14/05 7:24am

freakyfeet

LittleLamb said:

Besides, Prince is a walking swear word


Which one ?
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Reply #26 posted 03/14/05 7:48am

LittleLamb

freakyfeet said:

LittleLamb said:

Besides, Prince is a walking swear word


Which one ?



I knew this was coming. In fact, I was going to put (in my last post), "don't ask which one..." But it's the one with four-legs, er four letters and also "DAMN!"
"The poets are demanding their pay..."


"I'm a radio
I'm a country station
I'm a little bit corny
I'm a wildwood flower..."
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Reply #27 posted 03/14/05 7:56am

RipHer2Shreds

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i like when artist are given limitations..it causes the creative juices to flow....

Agreed. And who needs cuss words when you've got a creative edge? He's still got that, so who cares about the cussin'?
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Reply #28 posted 03/14/05 8:39am

destinyismine

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I kinda feel that its his right to no cuss because of his own moral/religious views. However, i feel that when he performs his old hits, he should replace the cuss words with tamer lyrics. Just don't sing the songs at all if you'd have to replace some lyrics. cool
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Reply #29 posted 03/14/05 9:04am

gsh

Couldn't care less if he doesn't write songs with cursing in again - I however still hate it when he changes the lyrics on his old material. Personally it makes a mockery of the fans who supported him all these years - a pious stance of "hey, I'm better than that now" means "hey, I'm better than you now" to those who dig the original lyrics.
You don't want to swear - don't perform the songs in with swearing. For someone who is and considers himself to be an artist, I wonder what he'd think if da Vinci had gone back and fixed the smile on the Mona Lisa before he died.
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